Rebuttal: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset

[P2PECS]

The initial post is a big pile of bullshit based on vagueness and generalities from which I gather that the OP identifies as poor and so makes a defense of the poor against the rich.

Pretty hard to discuss which is "better" knowing that there are a crap ton of factors to take into consideration when discussing "rich" vs "poor". Arguments from both sides are painted with a broad brush, as if all "rich" people think the same, and that all "poor" people think the same as well. Which obviously is not the case.

This sums it all up.

The only thing I would recommend to the OP is to stop thinking of "poor" and "rich" as watertight compartments, because in open societies there is economic status change between rich poor and middle class.

If he considers himself a good person and is poor, improving his economic situation and becoming middle class and even rich is not going to make him a psychopath. Conversely, someone who is rich but is a miser, exploiter and the like, is not going to become a nice person by becoming poor.

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[EarnOnVictor]

that is correct - I know a family which is not rich but people meet them because they have great problem solving skills which is rare in common people
People who are even rich doesn't have a healthy mind, and that is okie, most of the time the would need someone else to guide them.

It is everywhere, even the rich guys in the society have many poor and middle-class people they draw their ideas from. So, we should not let it seems as if the rich are better as if they are angels that know how to do this perfectly.

This was a rather thoughtful rebuttal that offers a more realistic alternative and explanation to the Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset.  This one went beyond the surface where the other one stayed on the surface. 

Thank you for this! I dislike it when motivational speakers are directing all the praise to the rich and make it looks as if all the poor are dummies.

It is very interesting to see the point of view from two different directions.

It's more like each person personality rather than the rich person or poor person. There's a rich person who doesn't want to work since he believe his dad business will keep successful and wouldn't collapse, but business is business, if you don't have good management, innovation and so on, your business will bankrupt. There's a poor person who work very hard to earn more money, but he used all to buy branded clothes and the value will decrease overtime.

Both of them become rekt, but they're suffering in the different way.

Thank you for this narration. Still, I look beyond personality but the opportunity they are presented with. I concluded by saying the poor is better than the rich because if they switcha sides, almost all the poor, if not all would survive, can we say that of the rich? It will be too hard for them to cope.

[Z-tight]

Some people work hard and believe that they will succed, some people just make others work hard and succed. It's as simple as that. Work hard to fulfill your own dreams else you will have to work hard to fulfill someone else's dream.

I feel even for people that are employers and have people working for them started at the earlier stage of their life working hard themselves for others, except if they were born into a wealthy family line, but in the absense of that, i believe success comes in different stages, so for that person we see today that has a big company with many staffs under him, there was a time the person was also working under someone else, learning and growing till they got to the level of great success, so people should take things easy on themselves, one thing a person should make sure they are doing is learning, and having a desire to get to the top, and then work hard to see if it happens.

[passwordnow]

I know that there's a huge gap and belief between poor and rich mindsets. But what I've come to realize is that when you're in a better state and you're already rich, you tend to belittle those people that are in an unfortunate situation. They may also have the same thinking as you as a successful person but they can't just turn themselves into that one because of what they're facing. It's true that poor people are less privileged but it doesn't mean that they've got poor mindsets too.

[_BlackStar]

Getting rich is not luck, or is barely 5% luck. There are lots of mindset and character factors that go into play. We shouldn't downplay that, to try to make some demographic or ourselves feel better.

I can say they are lucky if in fact they are the children of rich fathers. They are heirs who will become rich after getting the inheritance from their parents. While other people have to try to raise more money from various jobs, they have to go through a long process although not all of them get rich in the end. Getting rich is not an option, it is the result of hard work and a process that a person goes through.

[Moneyprism]

everyone is given the opportunity to be rich .. have a good mindset I think only one of several factors that make a person rich .. not all rich people have a mindset like "rich people", for example rich people whose wealth comes from their parents sometimes wasting money buying things that are not important or disrespectful to others who are below them.. or many other things that make them no better than poor people.. so I think many of your points are wrong

[Poker Player]

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.

When I started reading, I knew I was going to find this kind of garbage somewhere.

I don't know where you live but if you live in a developed country you live where there has been more social mobility and less privileges in the history of mankind. And if you live in a poor country not so much but almost, because if you think that the rich have privileges nowadays I would like you to take a walk in the Middle Ages to be working from sunrise to sunset for a feudal lord and you had just enough to eat not to die and continue working but suffering from malnutrition.

That's not to mention the droit du seigneur that certain feudal lords had over the peasants, which consisted in that when your daughters reached fertile age, about 13 or 14 years old, the feudal lord would deflower them.

What happens is that there is a lot of junk propaganda that wants to convince people that the world is worse than ever and that the solution is going to be brought by a politician through taxes and regulations. The bad thing is that the message gets through.

[arwin100]

Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept the other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

[Dunamisx]

Some people work hard and believe that they will succed, some people just make others work hard and succed. It's as simple as that. Work hard to fulfill your own dreams else you will have to work hard to fulfill someone else's dream.

You're right, live itself it's a kind of mentality in which we all developed to it's approach and that determines the results and level of how much we can go far in it, you can't expect someone whose mindset is like that of a grasshopper to develop a giant achievements and obtain a high pinnacle of success except by luck, that's why you discover that most people that work hard in physical labor engage in getting less reward unlike those who uses their brain and knowledgeable skill in working less hard but achieving good results with income, this is a factor of individual mentality to how and what we see in live, coupled with the way we administer those live situations into our practical lives.

[SirLancelot]

I know that there's a huge gap and belief between poor and rich mindsets. But what I've come to realize is that when you're in a better state and you're already rich, you tend to belittle those people that are in an unfortunate situation. They may also have the same thinking as you as a successful person but they can't just turn themselves into that one because of what they're facing. It's true that poor people are less privileged but it doesn't mean that they've got poor mindsets too.

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

[virasisog]

Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

Rich people are more privileged but than poor people but that doesn't mean that we should stop striving since that's the given fact. We can still change our path by setting goals and reaching them by being motivated to get out of the yolk of poverty. Rich people might always have an edge but poor people could also have a positive mindset to reach the same success. Our life is what we make it and if we were born as poor and remained poor until we get older, I think we lack hard work and perseverance.

[_BlackStar]

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

Life is hard bro, the weak will get weaker and the strong will get stronger. I saw a lot of social experiments on youtube, not many people want to help poor people with their dirty clothes on the streets, they are just ignored so I can conclude that the social gap between poor and rich people is very much different.

I'm not going to talk far, we can see it all around us. Good economic conditions will support many things including knowledge and smooth business, but when their economic conditions are low then knowledge is the last reason why they are successful.

[dunfida]

Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept the other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

When it comes to opinion and sentiments or other comments then there's no wrong or right because we do have our own ways and methods on making a living.Progress and success will really vary on how hard you do
work and how smart you do deal up with things and making up wise decisions which would really cause whether you would really make yourself successful or not but of course it does really mix up with some sort
of luck and perseverance at the same time.
Lets just accept that there are things in life which isnt provided which make more things to be more hard to achieve goals.Just do the usual stuff and stick with your own
goals and targets in life.Its impossible that each person doesnt have.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe because they are lucky to be rich, they can do much, especially to increase the amount of money. In contrast, poor people do not have much money so they can not do much. But if we talk about cryptocurrency, I think everyone who joins cryptocurrency has the same rights because if they have the right coins as their investment, they can get big profits in the future. And it depends on how strong they can survive and hold their coins until the price can go up high.

And if you compare the rich and the poor out there, the gap is so clear that many poor people cannot become rich and even if they do become rich, they are very lucky and only a few can get it.

[Uang_kartal]

  that is a constructive mindset, if so maybe the standard of living is better than some of the poorest minorities, what you mention is the middle class who can afford to buy and earn even though it's small. the middle class] is certainly not always the case.
if someone gives you information that is not the same as your Q n A, it may be that they are concerned with lifestyle and do not count expenses, again depending on the character and habits without realizing that doing what you say will create a culture of good habits, leading to prosperity

  i agree with ethereumhunter that if investing has the same time as taking momentum even if a little, if you want and are diligent you can certainly work as a hunter [bounty, airdrop, testnet, AMA etc.] it is provided free of charge and any event with prizes, many ways earn money for an investment.

[G_Besar]

  that is a constructive mindset, if so maybe the standard of living is better than some of the poorest minorities, what you mention is the middle class who can afford to buy and earn even though it's small. the middle class] is certainly not always the case.
if someone gives you information that is not the same as your Q n A, it may be that they are concerned with lifestyle and do not count expenses, again depending on the character and habits without realizing that doing what you say will create a culture of good habits, leading to prosperity

If I personally see it as an additional suggestion that still needs to be considered before implementing it even though it will create a culture of good habits and also lead to prosperity as desired. But again it's about individual decisions because everyone's abilities and the problems that everyone faces in life are always different. So that there is nothing to compare and yes as you said that those who are in the middle class level are those who can afford to buy even if only for a very small profit

[passwordnow]

I know that there's a huge gap and belief between poor and rich mindsets. But what I've come to realize is that when you're in a better state and you're already rich, you tend to belittle those people that are in an unfortunate situation. They may also have the same thinking as you as a successful person but they can't just turn themselves into that one because of what they're facing. It's true that poor people are less privileged but it doesn't mean that they've got poor mindsets too.

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.

[Dunamisx]

A rich man will always want to be rich and the poor also to get rich, which means everyone has the urge to amass wealth of riches, but what are the requirements for achieving this altogether, the answer is paying the price of what it takes to be rich which start right from the mindset, mentality of the poor and the mindset of the rich are two different things, and unless the poor change it orientation on how he approach being rich he may never know the secret behind it and not until he change his mentality to think as the rich people do, he may continue to thirst for that over time with nothing changed, it's not easy to have a change in status because it takes a lot in demand for it to occur, but are the poor ready to pay the price of what it takes?.

[Oasisman]

I don't wanna crucify the poor either as they also have their own mindset as to why the remain in that status of financial living. The path to becoming rich from the scratch was never easy. Not unless if you're born rich.
Everyone wants to be rich, but there are a lot of factors why we are divided into different social stratification.
We all have different mindset, skills, and emotions towards success or failure. Some are afraid of failure, so they keep their feet on the safer side.

That's why i don't usually listen to these motivational speakers. They put so much vindication on the poor. After all they're also after the money and they're only using their audience as an instrument to make more money.

[Jatiluhung]

A rich man will always want to be rich and the poor also to get rich, which means everyone has the urge to amass wealth of riches, but what are the requirements for achieving this altogether, the answer is paying the price of what it takes to be rich which start right from the mindset, mentality of the poor and the mindset of the rich are two different things, and unless the poor change it orientation on how he approach being rich he may never know the secret behind it and not until he change his mentality to think as the rich people do, he may continue to thirst for that over time with nothing changed, it's not easy to have a change in status because it takes a lot in demand for it to occur, but are the poor ready to pay the price of what it takes?.

Changing the concept of thinking is something very difficult. that's why sometimes rich people stay rich. and poor people remain poor. it is caused by the difficulty of changing the mindset. mindset and desire are different things. Poor people always dream of being rich. but very few of them are taking steps to make it happen. The first step that can be taken is to change the mindset. then change attitudes and self-discipline. and the rich stay rich because their environment encourages them and is taught to think smart. I see a lot of rich parents leave their children on their own. even though rich parents can really pamper their children. but they didn't. because they know that their children must continue the family business. then the first thing they do is mental education for their children. so that one day it is ready to take over the family company. but we also see a lot of rich people who have poor thoughts. they are usually rich parents always spoil their children excessively. and they are people who tend to feel less with what they have. they seemed to be constantly thirsty and drinking water could not quench their thirst.