Rebuttal: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset

[Dunamisx]

Changing the concept of thinking is something very difficult. that's why sometimes rich people stay rich. and poor people remain poor

you're right, it's very difficult but the reality is that if there must indeed be a change to occur it has to take a lot of efforts, thinking and setting right the mindset, everyone wants to get rich but don't want to adapt to a  change.

the rich stay rich because their environment encourages them and is taught to think smart.

what it takes to be rich is more as well to what it takes to maintain the riches, and to say the reality no one will taste being rich and wanted to go back to poverty and this would have been the worst ever situation that would have been better not to have ever been rich than having the taste of riches and go back being poor.

[justdimin]

Getting rich is not luck, or is barely 5% luck. There are lots of mindset and character factors that go into play. We shouldn't downplay that, to try to make some demographic or ourselves feel better.

I can say they are lucky if in fact they are the children of rich fathers. They are heirs who will become rich after getting the inheritance from their parents. While other people have to try to raise more money from various jobs, they have to go through a long process although not all of them get rich in the end. Getting rich is not an option, it is the result of hard work and a process that a person goes through.

That's the terrible thing about being rich, if you are rich and do not have the rich mindset then it is only a matter of time before you become poor again. I believe that the best thing you could do would be making sure that you invest into a bigger thing and bigger thing and bigger thing to keep growing.

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

[GiftedMAN]

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

You are right but certain things can be happening in your economy you can not help yourself but to stay and watch things the way they choose to become. For example, if you find yourself in an economy where there is high rate of inflation, unemployment, and high level of corruption, not forgetting that fiat currency is the only accepted currency in your economy and the value keeps goingg down every day, what are the possible means to escape poverty in such economy knowing too well that things are not going well and people are scared of investment due to the high rate of corruption in the economy how? Most times the plan B doesn't have the solution to the problems because once the economy of a country is bad everything goes bad with it.

[Shasha80]

Getting rich is not luck, or is barely 5% luck. There are lots of mindset and character factors that go into play. We shouldn't downplay that, to try to make some demographic or ourselves feel better.

I can say they are lucky if in fact they are the children of rich fathers. They are heirs who will become rich after getting the inheritance from their parents. While other people have to try to raise more money from various jobs, they have to go through a long process although not all of them get rich in the end. Getting rich is not an option, it is the result of hard work and a process that a person goes through.

That's the terrible thing about being rich, if you are rich and do not have the rich mindset then it is only a matter of time before you become poor again. I believe that the best thing you could do would be making sure that you invest into a bigger thing and bigger thing and bigger thing to keep growing.

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

Usually if a rich person becomes rich because he struggles with his own abilities, where he started from the bottom and did not get his wealth
instantly, then the rich person would last a long time, because it must have the right mindset to be rich. Whereas if there are people who are rich
just because they won the lottery or got an inheritance from their parents, it is certain that the wealth that is obtained instantly will quickly
run out, because these people have the wrong mindset. So if we want to be rich, we must start by changing our mindset first, after that getting
rich is only a matter of time. Therefore, where we are now facing an economic crisis, where almost all basic needs are increasing, if we have
the mindset of a rich person, I believe that  we can continue to improve the economy even in a bad economic situation. Because the mindset of
the rich will find a way to continue to increase profits.

[kawetsriyanto]

And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.

However, in reality, not all rich people do the same behavior. Only those rich people who care about others' feelings and they have good characteristics, who have that behavior you stated above. Fundamentally, it all depends on the personality of each. For those people who don't care about others, boasting is something usual to them, they sometimes show up their own achievements to others. Good rich people commonly are the people who are religious and probably have good nature since they were kids.

[TelolettOm]

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.

The rich people make money from money directly. On the contrary, poor people (as my own experience), use the money to be able to eat and then use the energy to make money again, and the cycle is going on 

Your point: Rich people spend on necessities and what is needed not what is desired.
My opinion: The poor people are more prudent than the rich because they have limited resources.

Sometimes not because of wisdom, but because of compulsion to limit what you want to buy. What the poor have in mind is being able to buy what they need at a minimum, at least the essentials, such as food, and the immediate primary needs. Meanwhile, rich people sometimes buy things not because of need, but just because they want or because of their environment or social surroundings...

[og kush420]

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.

The rich people make money from money directly. On the contrary, poor people (as my own experience), use the money to be able to eat and then use the energy to make money again, and the cycle is going on  

Your point: Rich people spend on necessities and what is needed not what is desired.
My opinion: The poor people are more prudent than the rich because they have limited resources.

Sometimes not because of wisdom, but because of compulsion to limit what you want to buy. What the poor have in mind is being able to buy what they need at a minimum, at least the essentials, such as food, and the immediate primary needs. Meanwhile, rich people sometimes buy things not because of need, but just because they want or because of their environment or social surroundings...

Rich minds are definitely the healthy minds they focus on having money this way or the other.
But the money earned with honesty stays - if you earn money by ill way - you would end up in disaster. Karma hits back!

[Piesel]

I won't categorize the two classes opposite each other and try to compare them! No that is not what I will do, but the place of personality and desires is what makes the difference between the rich and the poor and even the average class

I wouldn't say anyone is born poor since we are born with the same brain capacity and 24/7 time allocated to everyone but what you do with this feature is what determines the direction your life will go let me not also dive into motivation speaking but being realistic here, anyone can become rich or poor it depends on the actions and inactions.

One may not be born with a silver spoon but one can create or buy his silver spoon, what that means is that your birthplace and position can be a foundation of your existence that but don't determine the direction your whole life will go.

So in conclusion what becomes of your life is not a question of where or the class you are born into, but what you do with the resource that is in your hand which is TIME.

If you invest your time into meaningful things such as education, skills, and management you can escape whatever limitations that you may have been born with and the same goes for those who are born rich of there is no proper management they can still become poor so it all depends on the individual mindset.

[Fatunad]

I won't categorize the two classes opposite each other and try to compare them! No that is not what I will do, but the place of personality and desires is what makes the difference between the rich and the poor and even the average class

I wouldn't say anyone is born poor since we are born with the same brain capacity and 24/7 time allocated to everyone but what you do with this feature is what determines the direction your life will go let me not also dive into motivation speaking but being realistic here, anyone can become rich or poor it depends on the actions and inactions.

One may not be born with a silver spoon but one can create or buy his silver spoon, what that means is that your birthplace and position can be a foundation of your existence that but don't determine the direction your whole life will go.

So in conclusion what becomes of your life is not a question of where or the class you are born into, but what you do with the resource that is in your hand which is TIME.

If you invest your time into meaningful things such as education, skills, and management you can escape whatever limitations that you may have been born with and the same goes for those who are born rich of there is no proper management they can still become poor so it all depends on the individual mindset.

Rich minds are mostly healthy mind
they are busy working to grow themself - on the other hand poor maid need to reduce the burden out and indulge themselves in productive activites

You wont really be making yourself that rich if you arent going to do hard work plus having that wise mindset when it comes to investment or any other possible source of income that you should really be able to achieve or attain so that you would really be making your life way more better in terms of finances but if you are a certain type of person who do just simply contented on what you do have and dont have any goals or targets in life then you would definitely be staying up on being poor for the rest of your life this is why it does really depend on a particular person whether he would really be doing such stuff
or would be simply be skipping out and wouldnt really do any hardwork for you to make some improvement on your life.

[wxa7115]

And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.

However, in reality, not all rich people do the same behavior. Only those rich people who care about others' feelings and they have good characteristics, who have that behavior you stated above. Fundamentally, it all depends on the personality of each. For those people who don't care about others, boasting is something usual to them, they sometimes show up their own achievements to others. Good rich people commonly are the people who are religious and probably have good nature since they were kids.

There is a proverb that states "if you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power" and if we are honest about this very few people can manage that influx of sudden power and they will go crazy about it.

Only those which know exactly who they are and what they want out of life will be able to manage that power responsibly, and those are the ones that not only become rich but keep themselves being rich, as they can avoid most of the pitfalls in which rich people fall.

[dunfida]

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.

Rich mindset would really be something like this always which its definitely that on point because you cant really make more money if you wont really be risking some money which is really just a basic
concept of having investment through businesses and other assets that you are tending to own.

If you do make yourself having no goals or targets in life then you would really be just making yourself remain into that poor state or life status which its never
been that appealing to have specially when you are struggling on just surviving on your daily living.

[Jatiluhung]

mindset and life circumstances are two different things. I don't know what the OP meant. but I think this topic is more suitable for Rich living conditions and poor living conditions. and the points written by the OP are mostly in accordance with the realities of life taken from the living conditions of the rich and the living conditions of the poor. but if it's about mindset. so the mindset is sometimes different from the circumstances of a person's life. Many people with living conditions are rich (affluent) but have a poor mindset. for example they are rich people who are stingy who do not want to share with others. poor mindset can also be interpreted as a narrow mindset (narrowness of a thought). and conversely there are many people who have a poor background or live in a poor condition, but they have a rich mindset (having rich thoughts / not narrow thoughts / open and broad thoughts). usually people with rich thoughts can always think wisely because they have a broad view. so do not be surprised if many important figures who come from among people with a state of complete deprivation (poor). but they can change their standard of living for the better.

and we also meet many celebrities who come from among the poor. but they are never poor in mindset. such as Shania twain, Jay z , Celine Dion, Demi Moore, Jim Carrey, J.K Rowling (writer), Oprah Winfrey and many more.

Many great people who come from among the poor. they become great because they have a rich mindset or a broad mindset. they don't give up on the situation. then we should not underestimate the poor. because sometimes a crisis or critical situation can make a person think outside the normal mind (out of the box). so do not be surprised if any of the inventors came from among the poor people of origin. hopefully we have a rich mindset / broad mindset / wise.

so a rich mindset and a poor mindset can be born from all walks of life. both the rich and the poor. everyone can have this mindset. but indeed sometimes opportunities are always wider for rich people. because sometimes they have extensive connections with various circles.

[ethereumhunter]

Rich minds are definitely the healthy minds they focus on having money this way or the other.
But the money earned with honesty stays - if you earn money by ill way - you would end up in disaster. Karma hits back!

Maybe it depends on how everyone will think about how to earn money. Everyone, rich or poor, will try to get money. But some people can't keep their money well and instead use it to get the pleasure they don't really need. If you try to change your life by doing something that can help you earn money, one day, you will see what you are trying to do will work. Maybe changing the mindset must be done immediately and doing good ways will help you get something good too.

[DrBeer]

Mental poverty breeds poverty in everything - income, life, education. No offense. The poor have many complexes, and most importantly, they are afraid to admit them and are afraid to try to solve the problem. This is precisely the result of mental poverty. It breeds fears, cowardice, insecurity, decadent concepts, greed, as well as envy and hatred towards the more successful. With such a "baggage" of problems and complexes, it is impossible to change your life.

[edgycorner]

I agree with you OP. The rich are no better than the poor, they are simply more privileged.


The poor have just as much potential as the rich, but they are not given the same opportunities or resources. This is why it is so important to fight for social and economic justice. The poor deserve to have the same opportunities as the rich, and they should be able to use their talents and abilities to improve their lives and make a better future for themselves and their families.

Poors will always behind the 8 ball, trying to catch up with the rich. Only if we weren't taught to strive for that green as our goal in one life we have.

[wxa7115]

I agree with you OP. The rich are no better than the poor, they are simply more privileged.


The poor have just as much potential as the rich, but they are not given the same opportunities or resources. This is why it is so important to fight for social and economic justice. The poor deserve to have the same opportunities as the rich, and they should be able to use their talents and abilities to improve their lives and make a better future for themselves and their families.

Poors will always behind the 8 ball, trying to catch up with the rich. Only if we weren't taught to strive for that green as our goal in one life we have.

As we all know the power of money is something that cannot be underestimated, so it is impossible to give the poor the very same opportunities that someone that is rich has.

However what we need to strive to do is to give the poor enough opportunities so they have a chance to improve their lives, and at least in my opinion all of this begins with education, that way those which are born poor will have a chance to improve their living standards, and if they are lucky maybe they could become rich themselves

[Reid]

I dont like joining debates about this rich and poor differences when it is in social media because there are a lot of stupid people there who don't think first before they put it in words using their keyboards. Yes, they are called the keyboard warriors to be precise. I am avoiding them for most are pessimistic ideas and you won't learn anything from them but just fuels your stress.

I like what you have done though, protecting the poor who have dreams. But there are a lot of poor people that are just too lazy about anything and are just giving up with their dreams, so they tend to just put the blame in their parents or their God.
This is case to case basis.
Because there are also rich people who won't keep their riches if they stop working. So hardwork is still necessary and once they become lazy their kingdom will fall.

[el kaka22]

I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.

[Ahli38]

I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.

correctly. Taking a view on an issue will be different if it is done from a different point of view. Even the thoughts of every human being are different. there are those who prefer to live simply and enjoy what is, there are also those who have big ambitions. So the views of the two are definitely different. I also don't come from a rich family. but I was taught to be grateful for what I have. and I'm not allowed to look down on anyone even if it's a small child. I also can't humble myself in front of rich people. because we are the same. many treasures and not many treasures is not a measure of a caste and degree in life. morals are very strictly taught in my family.

[el kaka22]

^These type of things are only thought in families like us, because while we are thought that we could learn from life and be grateful and morals of our character is more important than money, people who have a lot of money and castles and yacths and whatever, teach their kid how to stay rich, and how to grow even richer, because that's what they need, if they do not teach the kid, then the kid will end up poor very quickly. That's why it matters, that's why it's such an important task.

I believe that schools should put a bit of class regarding economy as well, this way families would teach morals to their children like ours did, and schools could teach economy and there would be no information left unlearned.