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September 13, 2022, 02:23:14 PM
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To the results of the Russian-Ukrainian war

     Concern for the well-being of the Russian, that is, the Ukrainian people, which, according to the historical discovery of the famous Kremlin historian Putin, is the same thing, forced Russia to invade Ukraine. However, Russian Ukrainians (that is, the people inhabiting the territory called Ukraine), apparently due to insufficient education, not understanding Putin’s discovery worthy of the Nobel Prize, met the tanks of half-brothers as German fascists in 1941, not recognizing the difference between them, not only visual, but also on the consequences of the invasion.

     
     And what is especially offensive for the benefactors from Russia, the Russian Ukrainians, drugged by the Jew Zelensky, chosen by them as president, took advantage of their delusion and began to resist desperately. Moreover, they found entertainment in setting fire to Russian tanks with “javelins” begged for this purpose by Zelensky from overseas Jews. There, across the ocean, they decided to complete the work they had begun, if we recall the revolution of 1917, when the Jews clouded the Russians with the communist idea of ​​​​Marx, specially invented for the destruction of the Russian Empire. This Marx turned out to be an insidious type, his ideology, like a time bomb, ticked for 80 years, and suddenly, when the Russian people vegetated serenely in anticipation of the promised communist Paradise, it boomed so much that the Empire fell like a "house of cards". The javelins for Ukrainian Russians were followed by more destructive toys such as heimers, harpoons, Caesars, cheetahs, leopards and others, which, according to Putin, have no analogues in the Russian army. The Russian soldiers, who, due to the usual Russian slovenliness, were not warned about the existence of such a beast, gave up, frightened by the terrible names alone. After all, no one wants to be harpooned or bitten.

    Putin, in order to avenge the shameful flight and show the population that Russian weapons can also, ordered the destruction of Ukrainian power plants using expensive "calibers" and "daggers", launching them from Russian territory. This is, so to speak, a gift to the Russian people living in Ukraine for the winter. For the same purpose, the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant was taken out of operation. In short, the Kremlin fools began to bombard Ukraine with the remaining missiles, which will cause a backlash and I would not be surprised if missiles fly from Ukraine to Russian cities.
   
    Of course, the merit of the Jewish-Armenian propagandists, who penetrated Russian television and set the fraternal peoples against each other, is also what happened. They deliberately assured with foam at the mouth that as soon as Russian tanks crossed the border, the Ukrainian army would run, and the population would meet the soldiers with bread and salt. It seems that Putin, like all Russians, believed when he started the war, and now the Russian Empire will finally collapse, and the Russian people will pay for the war with free gas and oil for many years.

    The great-power worldview of the Russian people made Putin the master of the Kremlin (1), it will also be the cause of the popular revolt, the angry people will crucify Putin at the gates of the Kremlin for the loss of the empire, without which he cannot exist, because outside of it he will be lost. (2)
 

1. Great Russian chauvinism, and Putin is his Fuhrer. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/21133.html
2. Back to the empire, or the restoration of historical justice according to Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22792.html
 

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September 13, 2022, 04:02:40 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.

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September 13, 2022, 04:16:10 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?

Haven't you been listening all along? The US, using NATO encroachment so that Russia is uncomfortable.

And if you mean the war that Ukraine started with Russia in or around 2014, the US who pushed at least 3 regimes into the Ukraine, which attacked friendly Russian people.

Of course, there are all kinds of other little things. But these two are basic... and serious.

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September 13, 2022, 05:31:54 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?

Haven't you been listening all along? The US, using NATO encroachment so that Russia is uncomfortable.

And if you mean the war that Ukraine started with Russia in or around 2014, the US who pushed at least 3 regimes into the Ukraine, which attacked friendly Russian people.

Of course, there are all kinds of other little things. But these two are basic... and serious.

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  What kind of Ukrainian Russians are bad, they did not understand that they are one and the same people with the Russians and therefore attacked Russia in order to seize and take possession of its rich subsoil. And now the Russians must defend themselves against the invaders by asking for help from Iran and North Korea.
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September 13, 2022, 07:26:59 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?

Haven't you been listening all along? The US, using NATO encroachment so that Russia is uncomfortable.

And if you mean the war that Ukraine started with Russia in or around 2014, the US who pushed at least 3 regimes into the Ukraine, which attacked friendly Russian people.

Of course, there are all kinds of other little things. But these two are basic... and serious.

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  What kind of Ukrainian Russians are bad, they did not understand that they are one and the same people with the Russians and therefore attacked Russia in order to seize and take possession of its rich subsoil. And now the Russians must defend themselves against the invaders by asking for help from Iran and North Korea.

Why do you ask what kind of Ukrainians are bad. It's the ones who don't obey the Laws of God as found in the Bible, and don't ask for forgiveness from Jesus. But what does that have to do with whatever we were talking about?

Or did you mean the answer already given above, the Ukrainians who use the strength of the US, NATO, and Europe to fight Russians?

Or are you simply trying to mix things up by calling Ukrainians Russians, and Russians Ukrainians?

In Russia's asking for help, they are simply cementing trade agreements. They are not begging for help from Iran and North Korea.

I certainly am not trying to make you think something that you don't want to think. You are welcome to think anything you want. In the US, we are allowed freedom of speech as a foundational part of life. Speak, but if you want an answer, make sense.

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September 13, 2022, 08:25:47 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?

Haven't you been listening all along? The US, using NATO encroachment so that Russia is uncomfortable.

And if you mean the war that Ukraine started with Russia in or around 2014, the US who pushed at least 3 regimes into the Ukraine, which attacked friendly Russian people.

Of course, there are all kinds of other little things. But these two are basic... and serious.

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  What kind of Ukrainian Russians are bad, they did not understand that they are one and the same people with the Russians and therefore attacked Russia in order to seize and take possession of its rich subsoil. And now the Russians must defend themselves against the invaders by asking for help from Iran and North Korea.

Why do you ask what kind of Ukrainians are bad. It's the ones who don't obey the Laws of God as found in the Bible, and don't ask for forgiveness from Jesus. But what does that have to do with whatever we were talking about?

Or did you mean the answer already given above, the Ukrainians who use the strength of the US, NATO, and Europe to fight Russians?

Or are you simply trying to mix things up by calling Ukrainians Russians, and Russians Ukrainians?

In Russia's asking for help, they are simply cementing trade agreements. They are not begging for help from Iran and North Korea.

I certainly am not trying to make you think something that you don't want to think. You are welcome to think anything you want. In the US, we are allowed freedom of speech as a foundational part of life. Speak, but if you want an answer, make sense.

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Understood nothing. By the way, didn't Russia ask for help from Iran and North Korea? And why did you remember about freedom of speech. Everyone knows even without you where this freedom is respected. The only thing that follows from your post is to get away from the essence of the topic.
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Why do you ask what kind of Ukrainians are bad. It's the ones who don't obey the Laws of God as found in the Bible, and don't ask for forgiveness from Jesus. But what does that have to do with whatever we were talking about?

Or did you mean the answer already given above, the Ukrainians who use the strength of the US, NATO, and Europe to fight Russians?

Or are you simply trying to mix things up by calling Ukrainians Russians, and Russians Ukrainians?

In Russia's asking for help, they are simply cementing trade agreements. They are not begging for help from Iran and North Korea.

I certainly am not trying to make you think something that you don't want to think. You are welcome to think anything you want. In the US, we are allowed freedom of speech as a foundational part of life. Speak, but if you want an answer, make sense.

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Understood nothing.

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Well, that's the answer, then. But I do admire how well you use English, a second language for you.

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Why do you ask what kind of Ukrainians are bad. It's the ones who don't obey the Laws of God as found in the Bible, and don't ask for forgiveness from Jesus. But what does that have to do with whatever we were talking about?

Or did you mean the answer already given above, the Ukrainians who use the strength of the US, NATO, and Europe to fight Russians?

Or are you simply trying to mix things up by calling Ukrainians Russians, and Russians Ukrainians?

In Russia's asking for help, they are simply cementing trade agreements. They are not begging for help from Iran and North Korea.

I certainly am not trying to make you think something that you don't want to think. You are welcome to think anything you want. In the US, we are allowed freedom of speech as a foundational part of life. Speak, but if you want an answer, make sense.

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Understood nothing.

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Well, that's the answer, then. But I do admire how well you use English, a second language for you.

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So, on the topic itself, nothing. Rhetoric for shaking the air. You remembered God and the Bible, but at first there was a word, but the corresponding action followed the word.
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September 13, 2022, 11:57:28 PM
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As usual, the Ukraine jubilance over Kharkiv is a lot of hot air. It was in Russia's plan to give this area up, since it wasn't doing anything to help their position in Donbas.


Russian regrouping in Kharkov will speed up Battle of Donbass


No matter the Biden Administration's motivations in publicising its role in what western media is celebrating as a success story — presumably, with an eye on domestic politics in America — it could be factually correct. The media leak puts the dramatic happenings in the past 3-4 days in proper perspective.

There are two ways of looking at the surge by the Ukrainian military: one, Kiev has inflicted a heavy defeat on the Russians and forced them to retreat, or, the American intelligence finally got wind of the unobtrusive thinning out of the Russian frontline in Kharkov that had been going on in the recent weeks as part of a larger re-deployment of military formations, and shared the intelligence with Kiev, who of course gleefully acted on it.

The New York Times report effectively confirms the latter reading of the situation, which has been the stuff of hearsay and whispers so far.

Indeed, there has been hardly any fighting as such in Kharkov region during this Ukrainian surge, and the Russian focus was, unsurprisingly, to pull out the residual forces in the frontline under the cover of heavy artillery fire. The Russian operation ensured that there was no significant casualty. The new frontline that was being steadily put together in the recent weeks (or months) along the Oskol River has crystallised.

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September 14, 2022, 04:58:02 AM
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Russia has suffered greatly due to Ukraine war. While Ukraine has been reduced to ruble at border. I think now ukrainians are making major comebacks and this is going in their favour now... Wish the common citizens get their homes back.

You should be watching some other media to see what is really happening on the ground. If the news is for the Ukrainian army and for the West, they would simply say they are winning to keep the demoralized military to be hopeful and continue fighting without real arm support.

On the other side, the news don't say anything like that because they already know they are winning. If the western media says Russian's occupied the region, that means they OCCUPIED. You can already see what that means when they say "Occupied".

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It's a blasphemy to say that the evil entity is winning in Ukraine. What is happening is partly due to the Russia mistake of withrawing its troops from strategic positions. It's a mistake that shouldn't have happened. Though, I think the recent withdrawals from some areas may be good idea considering how reckless the entity is. It's like trying to fight group of terrorists that keep firing at anything/anyone with machine gun, you just have to becareful due to the huge risk involved.
Russia needs to pay more attention to GOD's servant than world's organizations who are part of the system that's trying to conquer her.

If Russia agree to move west to liberate the whole Ukraine, she will be immediately be supported  and she will conquer in great fury. I'm currently monitoring things from here waiting for her to say yes.
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War is not in anyone's interest, except politicians of course!!! What will the Russian or Ukrainian citizens gain from the war? Nothing but ruin and destruction for both countries, even if there were major problems between the two parties that could have been resolved through peace and dialogue between the two parties instead of war, but political ambitions, international interventions and conflicts between global powers are what made this war, and unfortunately those who pay the price are the innocent peoples who did not Reap any benefit from this war.

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The hard times in Ukraine - especially families of soldiers on both sides - is hurting everyday US soldiers, too. What will it be like when there is not enough money to support food stamps for anybody? Yet, instead of stopping the war, and using the money to buy food for the people, the US keeps on sending $billions.


Pentagon Tells Struggling Army Soldiers, Families To Apply For Food Stamps


The Pentagon is recommending U.S. soldiers struggling with soaring food prices apply for welfare, in a move that underscores both low military pay and the economic headwinds facing the nation as a whole.

The recommendation came last month from Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Grinston, and directs Army soldiers and their families to apply for food stamps through the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program known by the acronym SNAP.

"With inflation affecting everything from gas prices to groceries to rent, some Soldiers and their families are finding it harder to get by on the budgets they've set and used before," the written guidance from Grinston reads. "SNAP is a U.S. government program that provides benefits to eligible low-income individuals and families via an electronic benefits transfer card that can be used like a debit card to purchase eligible food in authorized retail food stores. Service members and their families may be eligible."

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Specialist. Putin's operation to demilitarize Ukraine has led to the opposite - Ukraine received the latest weapons from the West, which causes serious losses to the Russian occupiers.
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You don't even realize that the weapons have been coming to Ukraine for a long time now. They were going there long before the start of Putin's push at the beginning of this year.

All the things you accuse Putin of doing, the US has already done to Ukraine. The weapons are simply showing us that the US controls Ukraine militarily.

You are entirely backwards in your thinking. You seem to be pushing US propaganda. Are you well paid for it?

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You don't even realize that the weapons have been coming to Ukraine for a long time now. They were going there long before the start of Putin's push at the beginning of this year.

All the things you accuse Putin of doing, the US has already done to Ukraine. The weapons are simply showing us that the US controls Ukraine militarily.

You are entirely backwards in your thinking. You seem to be pushing US propaganda. Are you well paid for it?

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  The fact that you are a Putin troll has long been clear to me, and you judge others, thinking that everyone, like you, receives handouts from a bloody dictator who in his country kills everyone who is against his power.
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You don't even realize that the weapons have been coming to Ukraine for a long time now. They were going there long before the start of Putin's push at the beginning of this year.

All the things you accuse Putin of doing, the US has already done to Ukraine. The weapons are simply showing us that the US controls Ukraine militarily.

You are entirely backwards in your thinking. You seem to be pushing US propaganda. Are you well paid for it?

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  The fact that you are a Putin troll has long been clear to me, and you judge others, thinking that everyone, like you, receives handouts from a bloody dictator who in his country kills everyone who is against his power.

You have been hurt. That is so sad. But lashing out at Putin or Russia isn't going top bring back family and friends. All it will do is harm you.

Find a spirit of forgiveness. Having such a spirit won't help or hurt Putin. But it will help you. Do you know how it will help you? In your hatred of Putin/Russia, you are becoming just like them. Is that how you really want to be... just like Putin and Russia?

Forgive. Talk peace and love. Anger and hate talk won't do anybody any good. And the one who it will harm most is you. You are turning yourself into a hateful human.

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You don't even realize that the weapons have been coming to Ukraine for a long time now. They were going there long before the start of Putin's push at the beginning of this year.

All the things you accuse Putin of doing, the US has already done to Ukraine. The weapons are simply showing us that the US controls Ukraine militarily.

You are entirely backwards in your thinking. You seem to be pushing US propaganda. Are you well paid for it?

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  The fact that you are a Putin troll has long been clear to me, and you judge others, thinking that everyone, like you, receives handouts from a bloody dictator who in his country kills everyone who is against his power.

You have been hurt. That is so sad. But lashing out at Putin or Russia isn't going top bring back family and friends. All it will do is harm you.

Find a spirit of forgiveness. Having such a spirit won't help or hurt Putin. But it will help you. Do you know how it will help you? In your hatred of Putin/Russia, you are becoming just like them. Is that how you really want to be... just like Putin and Russia?

Forgive. Talk peace and love. Anger and hate talk won't do anybody any good. And the one who it will harm most is you. You are turning yourself into a hateful human.

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Don't try to make an angel out of Putin. he will be condemned, just like Hitler. Russian fascism will not save anything from punishment and no one will forgive him for the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians and the destruction that he brought to Ukraine. And all his trolls like you will be discovered by payments.
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September 16, 2022, 10:35:53 PM
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At the present time (time stamp) it seems that Russia is being pushed towards war. She has had some recent setbacks. They aren't anything more than seriously annoying.

All Russia wanted to do was free trade with other nations. But other rich nations are stopping her free trade (if they can). So, what steps will Russia take to continue her fair trade with other nations? It should be interesting.


Oh, they are not good, they do not want to trade with Russia. Well, then what, trade with others, what's the problem? You won't be forced to be nice. Or am I wrong?  Tell me, please, who is pushing Russia to war?
Ukraine is the grass for the elephant's fight. Russia still keep their big allies like Iran, China, India etc, these are no small countries. At a point Russia even gave China a discount for the crude oil sold to them. Now Iran is sending drones, weapon and soldiers to Russia to fight the war. Germany insisted on trading with Russia irrespective of the notion of other countries because they need their crude oil and there is no other place to get it, so not all countries are having trade war with Russia, Russia is the one punishing them

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