Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue

[madnessteat]

It seems to me that such sites primarily care about their profits, so they do not care what content users consume, in addition, the shares of many companies continue to fall and clearly they will not spend extra money to improve moderation channels. I think we can expect an increase in fraud and dangerous content on Twitch, so try to keep your children away from such sites.

[cabron]

It will take a popular streamer also as in Twitch address it to the team.
If there will be lots of complains to the streamer, the Twitch team can propose something to what gambling streamers can and can't to avoid issues.

This is a minor issue for Twitch though. If  Twitch is not doing somwthing then they are more focus in growing and getting more popular against their competitors.

[madnessteat]

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They are popular enough as it is because there are not many competitors in this field. When such platforms start to develop they spend a lot of money to protect the interests of their users, but when they have already gained a lot of users they do not need it because the platform itself is a driver of attraction. So you can forget about it.

[Wapfika]

This is a form of begging and twitch strictly doesn’t allows it especially they are directly asking money for gambling. They implement star system to reward streamer so that they will not ask money directly so this thing is obviously a violation of ToS or worst gambling streaming in general will be affected if there will a mass report in regards to this matter.

Afaik, This same scenario starts the strict implementation of rules against crypto by social platform like Facebook because of too much scam happened in the platform. This is very bad on the booming market of gambling streaming.

[ethereumhunter]

I think it's because the supervision from Twitch isn't tight enough that we can still watch content that smells of gambling so that it will attract people who use Twitch to try gambling. Maybe they are responsible for all their users. The real responsibility remains with the users because they should use the content available on the internet properly and not become addicted to gambling. We see today that people can find many things on the internet and if we don't filter it, then there is a possibility that we will be dissolved into it. Maybe later, Twitch will try to filter content for 18 years and over so people under 18 can't access the content.

[KTChampions]

Twitch has been a cesspool for a long time (compared to its historical role as a game streaming service), and I don't think this case is anything special given the current state of things on the platform. But if you are interested in specific games and specific streamers, you should not care that there are many other things on the platform that are unacceptable to you - just do not go to their streams.

[seoincorporation]

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

All the gambling streams are 18+, teens and kids are not supposed to watch them, but we know the reality is other. I don't think the platform is doing a responsible moderation on this, because as you say, this gamblers are only getting in debts with everyone and digging a deep hole.

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

I don't think twitch will ban gambling because in the end isn't an illegal activity, that's why twitch allow it and will keep allowing in the future.

[tomahawk9]

Twitch's biggest mistakes: 1) Allowing IRL content, 2) Creating the 'Slots' category

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

LOL
The amount of money gambling streamers generate for twitch (from streamer subs, bits donations, ads, sponsorships paid directly to twitch) is insane, we're talkings millions of dollars, and so far everything is legit and completely legal

btw, one of the latest twitch drama stories is that a gambling streamer got caught paying several Twitch staff around 5 figures in crypto ($50.000-$80.000). You think twitch is gonna stop this? when even the company staff are part of the whole thing? nah

[Hispo]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

You have a good point when you mentioned the fact Twitch is a streaming service where a lot of children and teens spend their time watching their favorite internet stars or former youtubers to play and most of the times to have a good time while helping those streamers to earn money, that being said it is a very delicate situation to have people like this one (and many others) introducing children and teens to the world of gambling.

I expect Twitch to end up banning gambling completely from their streaming service or going for a more moderate approach first and see if this works, they could do the same they did with the hot tub issue, they created a completely new category for girls in hot tubs, I found it rather silly but it worked, those who wanted to see women in a Jacuzzi found their place.

In case of gambling, Twitch may require people for KYC to allow them to enter a stream where the host is gambling on live, though, creating a category would not be enough, it seems this Silker guy does have some serious issues hopefully he manages to get his stuff together.

[Fortify]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

There are a lot of parallels between people getting addicted to gambling and people who follow some of these streamers in a cult-like fashion. Many people out there look at the lifestyles of streamers, getting paid all day to play games essentially, and end up worshiping them like a celebrity. It's slightly sad in a way because they think through donations and other activities that they somehow form a bond with these people, but once these streamers reach a certain level they will just be churning viewers. At that point they are earning so much money from donations, sponsorships and other funding they really won't notice if all their original subscribers left and new ones came in. Not even sure why Twitch tolerates this when they are meant to be a relatively young fan base orientated site.

[dezoel]

"Would use his influence" meaning this guy is a famous streamer so he must be receiving tips during his streams and didn't he have any sponsorship? He can always apply one if he haven't yet. That should make him good money already.

There is no need to risk his reputation by borrowing money. Don't tell me that he did it because he also lose all of his earnings on gambling. If that is the case then he must be heavily addicted with gambling already. He better find ways to stop this because if not then this will get worse. For now, maybe someone will report to twitch so that he will be banned there. That is to prevent him for borrowing for more money and also to teach him a lesson. Maybe he will change after that.

[sunsilk]

Well, these people that are already out of control with their addiction just had found a new way to fund themselves. If that's what he's been doing and he later on released a statement of his apology.

Then, he sees the fault of himself that he should haven't done that. Whether there's a clause on Twitch's TOS or there's none, that's not really the best way to gamble.

But for his fans that have been giving their money to him, there are those folks that would just like to see them gamble and support it with their money.

Twitch should be more restrictive for the contents like this and won't allow to younger teens and kids to view them.

[Yogee]

....Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

I was wondering why people blame Twitch and so I had to check other video platforms as well. It turns out that Youtube also suspended accounts whose contents are mostly related to gambling "by mistake" but were later reinstated.

I'm really not in favor of banning. I would rather have them enforce a strict regulation on age limit.

[Quidat]

....Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

I was wondering why people blame Twitch and so I had to check other video platforms as well. It turns out that Youtube also suspended accounts whose contents are mostly related to gambling "by mistake" but were later reinstated.

I'm really not in favor of banning. I would rather have them enforce a strict regulation on age limit.

How to enforce age limit? Considering that you could sign up on various or all of platforms with having those age checkboxes that you are above age 18+ or something like that and we know that
even youngsters would just simply check it out and proceed which make things even more harder to control on unless if there would be some sort of KYC verification?
It would really be a huge turn down if ever one of these platforms would be applying it in terms of registration or just simply using up on the site.
They do have set of rules and regulations and if they dont prohibit gambling then its their choice.

[Yogee]

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I'm really not in favor of banning. I would rather have them enforce a strict regulation on age limit.

How to enforce age limit?....

Yes I understand it's going to be tough to implement that. The whole point there is to find other ways to minimize involvement of the underage viewers than a straight out ban of content. I mean it would seem unfair to block them when gambling isn't even prohibited by law - only regulated.

[Wexnident]

So I just found out that twitch has updated their gambling-related policies today, which seems like an answer to the Sliker issue since it seems like it blew up.
https://twitter.com/twitch/status/1572347129192132611?s=46&t=iEgymbuwfEHY6LTs9dTS6g


Seems like instead of removing it all, they've limited it to a few ones that are the most famous ones. I'm all in for letting sports betting alone since that's kind of a sports-related watch along sometimes, but I doubt poker being left alone was good.

[ralle14]

I think it's because the supervision from Twitch isn't tight enough that we can still watch content that smells of gambling so that it will attract people who use Twitch to try gambling. Maybe they are responsible for all their users. The real responsibility remains with the users because they should use the content available on the internet properly and not become addicted to gambling. We see today that people can find many things on the internet and if we don't filter it, then there is a possibility that we will be dissolved into it. Maybe later, Twitch will try to filter content for 18 years and over so people under 18 can't access the content.

It'd be great if Twitch decides to ban gambling in the future but at the same time I think it's still not enough when gambling content still exists on other platforms like Youtube. I agree with you though instead of relying on the platform to make changes it's better if we take the initiative so that we don't fall into these gambling addiction since it can still escalate even if it's not within a casino. Afaik twitch already has a warning message for streams that aren't recommended for younger audiences but it's not enough to stop them from watching any stream.

So I just found out that twitch has updated their gambling-related policies today, which seems like an answer to the Sliker issue since it seems like it blew up.

Even though it's not the entire gambling content that at least should stop most of the gambling streams on Twitch since the bigger streamers usually play slots and other casino games.

[bittraffic]

So I just found out that twitch has updated their gambling-related policies today, which seems like an answer to the Sliker issue since it seems like it blew up.
https://twitter.com/twitch/status/1572347129192132611?s=46&t=iEgymbuwfEHY6LTs9dTS6g


Seems like instead of removing it all, they've limited it to a few ones that are the most famous ones. I'm all in for letting sports betting alone since that's kind of a sports-related watch along sometimes, but I doubt poker being left alone was good.

Basically like youtube. There have been lots of it on youtube as well.  Probably the retain ones that are paying them up to 6 figures as stated above which Twitch receives from them. It's a business after all. Eventually, the victims will learn anyway, and some of them will comment more on the video to warn others.

What Twitch can do is tag streamers to add disclaimers to thier video description.

[famososMuertos]

The issue does not lie in censoring the influencer or the social network, it is necessary to parameterize what content can be seen without warnings.

 Any form of alert is useful, since censorship is not the way to go since that only serves to create other alternatives, which exist and are not as popular as Twitch but are worse.

 It is a question of the will of the platform to create this type of alerts in the same way as they do to block audio and video due to copyright or advertising embedding.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Twitch has taken some measures to limit what kind of gambling can be streamed on their platform. I don't think they could outright ban gambling in it's entirety. A lot of free to play video games contain gambling elements with loot boxes and gacha mechanics. These types of games are very popular on Twitch and so are other types of streams which can be considered morally questionable. The banning of certain content will only serve to calm down some of the outrage but it won't have any real effect on gambling addiction.