Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue

[Gyfts]

I saw the announcement from Twitch.tv on Twitter started to circulate and didn't realize that an Amazon subsidiary would single out websites in their blanket gambling ban from platforms outside of the U.S. in their official announcement. But hey, free advertising. Seems unfairly targeted, but I digress.

This character "Sliker" seems to be a big part of why this discussion is even happening. I'm for adults having the liberty of what type of entertainment they choose to consume, and if a disclaimer on gambling related live streamers might waive liability from children watching the shows, then put a disclaimer on the channel. Because one live streamer decides to swindle money from viewers, everyone else has to suffer?

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[Cling18]

The issue does not lie in censoring the influencer or the social network, it is necessary to parameterize what content can be seen without warnings.

 Any form of alert is useful, since censorship is not the way to go since that only serves to create other alternatives, which exist and are not as popular as Twitch but are worse.

 It is a question of the will of the platform to create this type of alerts in the same way as they do to block audio and video due to copyright or advertising embedding.

It is possible not unless the site would pay the platform so they could run their stream freely without being blocked. I think it will be more effective if we will avoid such streams like this or as much as possible try not to fall into their trap. Gambling addiction is still our personal choice and the decision still depends on us.

[Pierre 2]

I first watched about this from Turkish streamer called Jahrein, as he mostly mentioned what was going on. I think I feel like total ban on gambling ads or gambling sponsored streams were exeggarated move from Twitch side. I feel like mainly corrupt Twitch staff abused a guy and got some Bitcoin in returns. Twitch could just ask streamer to stop sending Bitcoin and terminate contracts of corrupt stuff they have. Its weird obviously.
Source for this: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-staff-slammed-for-taking-80000-trainwreck-payment-live-on-stream-1936895/

[edgycorner]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

[ethereumhunter]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

So only sports betting, fantasy sports, and poker will be allowed to show up on Twitch, while all sites that do not allow to promote on Twitch. But I am sure those sites will have other ways to promote their sites on the other sites.

But yes, it will help kids from watching gambling content and hopefully, this can prevent someone from becoming addicted to gambling. Hopefully, it will not reduce the income for Twitch a lot since gambling contributes a big income for them.

[danherbias07]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I always see to it that my kids won't access this website. It's not for kids at all, most streamers are gamers and gamblers and most are an adult types of games. I'd rather subscribe them on streamers in youtube with contents that don't curse, or adults that makes kids contents. i.e. Blippi  

About what they do making a pool of donated funds to be gambled, it's all up to who will send them the money.
If you think it's a waste then don't. It's not like they are forcing you to send the money. In fact, they are almost begging for funds to come in.
It's also a battle of popularity, if you are not known at all, you might end up not receiving even a penny.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

Cool!

[onecall123]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

So only sports betting, fantasy sports, and poker will be allowed to show up on Twitch, while all sites that do not allow to promote on Twitch. But I am sure those sites will have other ways to promote their sites on the other sites.

But yes, it will help kids from watching gambling content and hopefully, this can prevent someone from becoming addicted to gambling. Hopefully, it will not reduce the income for Twitch a lot since gambling contributes a big income for them.

Several gambling websites will be banned by Twitch as part of its updated gambling policy. Slots, roulette, and dice are no longer allowed to be streamed from unlicensed gambling sites. An ongoing gambling controversy prompted the announcement of the change. Though the gambling streams and the skimpy streamers make them far too much money.

The act of gambling itself is not harmful, but once it becomes excessive, it becomes insane. Is gambling something I agree with? I don't. However, that is how they make their money, so let it be.

[aioc]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

That's fast Twitch may have received a lot of bad reports about streamers abusing their followers, I don't see anything wrong on doing stream on sports betting and casinos, you're informing, enlightening people and educating people on the gambling feature of one casino, anyway there are still a lot of streaming platform that these streamers can perform their streaming but they should not abuse their followers, like what Sliker did.

[tomahawk9]

So I just found out that twitch has updated their gambling-related policies today, which seems like an answer to the Sliker issue since it seems like it blew up.
https://twitter.com/twitch/status/1572347129192132611?s=46&t=iEgymbuwfEHY6LTs9dTS6g
https://i.imgur.com/zC1a961.png

It's not the first time that a streamer scammed their subs and friends, hell, there are tons of cases that got more than 10x the attention that the Silker's case got and Twitch didn't do anything

Most likely this change in the TOS and policy was caused by the backlash twitch got from the public after the twitch employees/staff were caught receiving "bribes" from gambling streamers. That could've snowballed out of control for the company and it would've been a really nasty situation for them so they acted quickly and made the appropiate changes. Props to them for that

[rahmad2nd]

I'm not a twitch user, so I don't have much information regarding the streamers on this platform. especially regarding every rule that Twitch enforces on its platform, but if I refer to the case of the "Silker" streamer that the OP said.

Basically Twitch won't respond right away, especially if it doesn't have anything to do with the breach as a requirement to suspend the troubled streamer. however, this case seems to have been known by the parties concerned. especially in this case, they will always maintain a reputation as one of the best game streaming platforms.

I think they will monitor the progress. and if there are more similar cases popping up in the future, I'm sure Twitch will make policy updates to tighten the rules and prevent similar things from happening in the future. otherwise, eventually people will no longer have faith in Twitch as the leading platform.

[el kaka22]

Gambling is something you are legally could do after you turn 18, why would it be something that could be viewed by thousands of kids on twitch? I support the idea that it is not something that should be streamed, I mean this sliker dude himself is the proof that it would be a horrible way to continue your life if you are an irresponsible person.

At the end of the day, there would be a lot of people "if I only win once" type of thinking and thousands of people who watch gambling on twitch will see people win and assume they could too and end up losing a lot of money. This is why I support that twitch should ban gambling and remove anyone who continues to do it.

[KTChampions]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it. Rather, Twitch, under public pressure, was forced to imitate some kind of activity, and they chose this path. Next time they will choose another criterion such as the use of cryptocurrencies and ban the casinos that use them.

[dunfida]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

That's fast Twitch may have received a lot of bad reports about streamers abusing their followers, I don't see anything wrong on doing stream on sports betting and casinos, you're informing, enlightening people and educating people on the gambling feature of one casino, anyway there are still a lot of streaming platform that these streamers can perform their streaming but they should not abuse their followers, like what Sliker did.

That was indeed fast which it is really normal on having that kind of action whenever the platform or company did received lots of reports in regarding on what Sliker did but they do only limit out into those offshore

and still alow into those platforms who do have US licensed but actually this was just a right actions that they had made but to consider out on how many been affected then there's nothing we can do about it.
Twitch isnt only the streaming platform that we know that there are several ones which those streamers or influencers would just definitely be transferring if ever they cant already
do such stream or genre on twitch.

[Hispo]

I just heard the news today about the partial ban on foreign casinos, It was a surprise Twitch/Amazon would tackle this issue this fast, I assume it started to make into mainstream news or became a tendency to talk about this on social media?

Regardless of what happened for amazon to do this, It is quite a blow for offshore Casinos and a huge opportunities for American online casinos, this may be the last measure Amazon could take before a complete ban on gambling in case things do not improve in the eyes of Amazon.

Also, I dont want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but this sounds like something which benefits much to USA casinos as I said, is there a possibility Amazon was in private conversations with representatives of the gambling industry in USA?

[passwordnow]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

Wow, they've made a statement and those special mentions are all in the forum as well. That's how huge these casinos are and Duelbits is on it. Well, they're now targeting a specific niche and still allow those that have been mentioned and I guess these gambling content creators/streamers will now focus on sports betting and poker then. They shouldn't put the burden to the streamers but make a feature on the platform that filters the viewers of these streamers that would allow/disallow based on the age bracket of their viewers.

[Saisher]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

That's fast Twitch may have received a lot of bad reports about streamers abusing their followers, I don't see anything wrong on doing stream on sports betting and casinos, you're informing, enlightening people and educating people on the gambling feature of one casino, anyway there are still a lot of streaming platform that these streamers can perform their streaming but they should not abuse their followers, like what Sliker did.

That was indeed fast which it is really normal on having that kind of action whenever the platform or company did received lots of reports in regarding on what Sliker did but they do only limit out into those offshore

and still alow into those platforms who do have US licensed but actually this was just a right actions that they had made but to consider out on how many been affected then there's nothing we can do about it.
Twitch isnt only the streaming platform that we know that there are several ones which those streamers or influencers would just definitely be transferring if ever they cant already
do such stream or genre on twitch.

Casino streaming has a vast market, and Twitch seems ready to lose that market, they could just ban or limit one guy guilty of abuse of its followers but unfortunately, they prefer to ban the majority of casinos for streaming, We'll never know if Youtube will follow if they see similar abuse, but streaming is a growing market and platform can make a revenue out of this followers so I say other big followers will not that kind of action.

[Yogee]

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I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it.

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.

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Can anyone clarify if spors betting platforms licensed by Curacao or other countries would still be allowed in their new policy? or is it strictly from US or maybe UK?

[DoublerHunter]

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I think they will monitor the progress. and if there are more similar cases popping up in the future, I'm sure Twitch will make policy updates to tighten the rules and prevent similar things from happening in the future. otherwise, eventually people will no longer have faith in Twitch as the leading platform.

^ Or it becomes worst instead we are waiting for progress many users of Twitch will switch to another platform because of this and I hope this will not happen to them. I don't have enough knowledge too on this platform but it seems they think that promoting gambling casinos that are based on house edge (unlike sportsbook and poker) can ruin their reputation. But let us wait for the result and we hope they are not ended up with a negative result.

[Baofeng]

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I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it.

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.

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Can anyone clarify if spors betting platforms licensed by Curacao or other countries would still be allowed in their new policy? or is it strictly from US or maybe UK?

If you look at their official blog post:



https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1572347129192132611

So it's blanket ban on those top tier crypto gambling platform. They have their Curacao licenses, but it doesn't matter.

As of now, I will say that sports betting will be included. But according to them, they will clear out everyone in the next coming days before it take effect on Oct 18.

[alegotardo]

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

Twitch has long been the favorite streaming channel for addicted gamblers.
And Twitch does very little to combat this because this is one of the few sectors that still attract people and consequently keep the platform active, otherwise they would lose much more space to Youtube.
Obviously Twitch needs to fight this in a more energetic way, but rest assured that when this happens the betting streams will simply migrate to another less moderate platform.