Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue

[Kemarit]

Ok, there are still a full month for those gamblers to finish and wrap everything up because the full hands of rule or shall we say the pressure that Twitch has been gotten in the last couple of months force them to ban all streamers that post related gambling content.

Is it a win for anti-gamblers out there? maybe but we all know that they will continue to do so, regardless of which social media platform they are going to promote.

[ethereumhunter]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on offshore casinos. It's a win in my book. At least we won't see the same amount of shills turning kids into gambling addicts on twitch

https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

I have been saying this for months and it finally happened!!

I am really happy today, gonna order some vanilla ice cream lol

So only sports betting, fantasy sports, and poker will be allowed to show up on Twitch, while all sites that do not allow to promote on Twitch. But I am sure those sites will have other ways to promote their sites on the other sites.

But yes, it will help kids from watching gambling content and hopefully, this can prevent someone from becoming addicted to gambling. Hopefully, it will not reduce the income for Twitch a lot since gambling contributes a big income for them.

Several gambling websites will be banned by Twitch as part of its updated gambling policy. Slots, roulette, and dice are no longer allowed to be streamed from unlicensed gambling sites. An ongoing gambling controversy prompted the announcement of the change. Though the gambling streams and the skimpy streamers make them far too much money.

The act of gambling itself is not harmful, but once it becomes excessive, it becomes insane. Is gambling something I agree with? I don't. However, that is how they make their money, so let it be.

There will always be a controversy between those who approve of gambling and those who don't because we see gambling as harmless as long as we can control ourselves. But most people will lose control of themselves when playing gambling, which is what some worry about. They don't want to see more and more victims of gambling addiction so that people can enjoy life better without gambling. But people who are still curious about gambling will always look for ways to keep playing gambling; some of them do have a desire to keep gambling forever.

[rodskee]

maybe this is one of the reason why twitch had this decision to ban gambling sites from their site and streaming

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.0

full respect for this decision though this will surely affect their popularity as gambling online is one of the most visited and contributing factor for their business.

Hope that Twitch did a best action for the future of their business .

[wxa7115]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712


Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

This ban was long coming, if the streamers presented gambling in a responsible manner and they were honest about what you could expect out of gambling then I do not think they would have done something like this.

But this is not what happened, streamers began abusing their position and those watching them enabled them, so Twitch has decided to finally take action against them, and while this is a step on the wrong direction when it comes to the popularity of cryptocurrency casinos, I think they did not gave Twitch any other choice.

[Pierre 2]

Ok, there are still a full month for those gamblers to finish and wrap everything up because the full hands of rule or shall we say the pressure that Twitch has been gotten in the last couple of months force them to ban all streamers that post related gambling content.

Is it a win for anti-gamblers out there? maybe but we all know that they will continue to do so, regardless of which social media platform they are going to promote.

Yeah. I don't understand why people feel like Twitch is only option out there. I know that Dlive is doing good now and it allows gambling streaming. And it has Blockchain integration which is awesome.
I feel like many anti-gambling people suggest, Twitch is filled with kids so gambling is dangerous for them etc but I think they could just do age limit to those streams. I feel like Twitch can't handle this issue because of publicity.

[KTChampions]

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I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it.

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.
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Hmm... I didn't get your point. What exactly will protect me as a consumer? I am 18+ years old and I allow myself to watch a streamer play in a "dangerous" casino. But Twitch bans such broadcasts. In my opinion, this is a limitation, not a protection. As I heard the Stake casino was also banned because it is associated with cryptocurrencies. It suits you?

[Yogee]

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I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it.

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.
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Hmm... I didn't get your point. What exactly will protect me as a consumer? I am 18+ years old and I allow myself to watch a streamer play in a "dangerous" casino. But Twitch bans such broadcasts. In my opinion, this is a limitation, not a protection.

Allowing only casinos licensed in the US or jurisdictions with strict regulations for consumer protection in the case of Twitch just means your rights as a consumer are better upheld since you can easily file complaint against these platforms compared to those licensed offshore. I think it's a good deterrent against casinos and content creators not to mislead their viewers. It's not really meant to protect you from being a gambling addict or whatever.

As I heard the Stake casino was also banned because it is associated with cryptocurrencies. It suits you?

Why bring this up? I see no relevance to the consumer protection topic.

[Kemarit]

Ok, there are still a full month for those gamblers to finish and wrap everything up because the full hands of rule or shall we say the pressure that Twitch has been gotten in the last couple of months force them to ban all streamers that post related gambling content.

Is it a win for anti-gamblers out there? maybe but we all know that they will continue to do so, regardless of which social media platform they are going to promote.

Yeah. I don't understand why people feel like Twitch is only option out there. I know that Dlive is doing good now and it allows gambling streaming. And it has Blockchain integration which is awesome.
I feel like many anti-gambling people suggest, Twitch is filled with kids so gambling is dangerous for them etc but I think they could just do age limit to those streams. I feel like Twitch can't handle this issue because of publicity.

Dlive is a good options, although is still small, but for sure, as we have said, streamers will have to find a way and this could give Dlive one of the alternatives for now. Or there could be other apps that will born because of this issue Maybe they will just focus on streaming gambling on their platform. So it's not like anti-gamblers have won the game. It just started, so we will see how far this will go. Twitch might be afraid of the 'cancel' culture, a movement that has been going on from hollywood to any sector in the society.

[blue_hurricanger]

Ok, there are still a full month for those gamblers to finish and wrap everything up because the full hands of rule or shall we say the pressure that Twitch has been gotten in the last couple of months force them to ban all streamers that post related gambling content.

Is it a win for anti-gamblers out there? maybe but we all know that they will continue to do so, regardless of which social media platform they are going to promote.

Yeah. I don't understand why people feel like Twitch is only option out there. I know that Dlive is doing good now and it allows gambling streaming. And it has Blockchain integration which is awesome.
I feel like many anti-gambling people suggest, Twitch is filled with kids so gambling is dangerous for them etc but I think they could just do age limit to those streams. I feel like Twitch can't handle this issue because of publicity.

Dlive is a good options, although is still small, but for sure, as we have said, streamers will have to find a way and this could give Dlive one of the alternatives for now. Or there could be other apps that will born because of this issue Maybe they will just focus on streaming gambling on their platform. So it's not like anti-gamblers have won the game. It just started, so we will see how far this will go. Twitch might be afraid of the 'cancel' culture, a movement that has been going on from hollywood to any sector in the society.

Maybe Twitch just wants to play safe here. You know how popular Twitch is among teenagers in high school or even kids. Would not be good for their image if you can access gambling content with just a few clicks under the main site. Sure, I'm all for gambling but putting it under ads as 'streaming' near kids is something I found distasteful.

Now, you can argue Twitch allow things like girls wearing skimpy outfit and such but I think it's okay. It's not like I was an angel back when I was a kid, sneak a glance at my dad's playboy mag when he wasn't home. That kind of thing is fine for kids, a bit curious about sex. But gambling? Nah. They're too young for that. Welcome any alternative streaming sites that are more open than Twitch. But even Mixer with Microsoft's backing has gone nowhere, what is the chance for Dlive or any streaming site out there?

[KTChampions]

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.
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Hmm... I didn't get your point. What exactly will protect me as a consumer? I am 18+ years old and I allow myself to watch a streamer play in a "dangerous" casino. But Twitch bans such broadcasts. In my opinion, this is a limitation, not a protection.

Allowing only casinos licensed in the US or jurisdictions with strict regulations for consumer protection in the case of Twitch just means your rights as a consumer are better upheld since you can easily file complaint against these platforms compared to those licensed offshore. I think it's a good deterrent against casinos and content creators not to mislead their viewers. It's not really meant to protect you from being a gambling addict or whatever.

Hmm... still don't get it. Can you explain to me again? But without simply repeating what you said the very first time? Did you see what I wrote? - I want to watch a stream with adult content (18+) about how a streamer plays in a "dangerous" casino. What is the protection of my rights if I am deprived of the opportunity to watch such a stream?

As I heard the Stake casino was also banned because it is associated with cryptocurrencies. It suits you?

Why bring this up? I see no relevance to the consumer protection topic.

And I do not see, but I see a ban that does not suit me completely. I'm trying to understand why it suits you.

[Yogee]

No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.
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Hmm... I didn't get your point. What exactly will protect me as a consumer? I am 18+ years old and I allow myself to watch a streamer play in a "dangerous" casino. But Twitch bans such broadcasts. In my opinion, this is a limitation, not a protection.

Allowing only casinos licensed in the US or jurisdictions with strict regulations for consumer protection in the case of Twitch just means your rights as a consumer are better upheld since you can easily file complaint against these platforms compared to those licensed offshore. I think it's a good deterrent against casinos and content creators not to mislead their viewers. It's not really meant to protect you from being a gambling addict or whatever.

Hmm... still don't get it. Can you explain to me again? But without simply repeating what you said the very first time? Did you see what I wrote? - I want to watch a stream with adult content (18+) about how a streamer plays in a "dangerous" casino. What is the protection of my rights if I am deprived of the opportunity to watch such a stream?

Errrrr protection is not really on the watching but on the potential consumption of whatever product these streamers are trying to sell to you. Twitch is trying to give viewers more power to go after them and their casino sponsors if they mislead you through their fraudulent claims and practices.

Twitch probably thinks those licensed offshore offers less protection to consumers so they plan to ban them outright.

Yes Twitch limit viewers choices with this move in an attempt to "save" them from not playing in casinos that probably offers less protection to consumers or players.

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And I do not see, but I see a ban that does not suit me completely. I'm trying to understand why it suits you.

It doesn't. It's one of the casinos that I think is reputable despite it being licensed outside of US but that's not what Twitch thinks.

[Boristhecat]

This ban was long coming, if the streamers presented gambling in a responsible manner and they were honest about what you could expect out of gambling then I do not think they would have done something like this.

But this is not what happened, streamers began abusing their position and those watching them enabled them, so Twitch has decided to finally take action against them, and while this is a step on the wrong direction when it comes to the popularity of cryptocurrency casinos, I think they did not gave Twitch any other choice.

If I remember correctly, there was already a similar scandal regarding sexualized content and Twitch also took action, but little (if anything) has changed since then. The most popular streamers both did streams in pools and continue to do so, as they licked microphones and continue to do so. In addition, in the channel description they have links to their OF profiles or even to porn sites where they earn the main money. Maybe these restrictions regarding gambling are also exaggerated and will not affect anything?

[Findingnemo]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/02/mdGNH.png

Still they are allowing the sport betting even poker if I am not wrong and that is what mostly gambled and steamed ones then what is the actual reason of the ban?

So its just fornthe sake of showing the platform is being responsible but without actually not really disturbing anything?!...

[KTChampions]

Hmm... still don't get it. Can you explain to me again? But without simply repeating what you said the very first time? Did you see what I wrote? - I want to watch a stream with adult content (18+) about how a streamer plays in a "dangerous" casino. What is the protection of my rights if I am deprived of the opportunity to watch such a stream?

Errrrr protection is not really on the watching but on the potential consumption of whatever product these streamers are trying to sell to you. Twitch is trying to give viewers more power to go after them and their casino sponsors if they mislead you through their fraudulent claims and practices.

Twitch probably thinks those licensed offshore offers less protection to consumers so they plan to ban them outright.

Yes Twitch limit viewers choices with this move in an attempt to "save" them from not playing in casinos that probably offers less protection to consumers or players.

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And I do not see, but I see a ban that does not suit me completely. I'm trying to understand why it suits you.

It doesn't. It's one of the casinos that I think is reputable despite it being licensed outside of US but that's not what Twitch thinks.

Ok, there is a way to explain Twitch's motivation. But I do not see any reason for such totalitarian motivations to be tolerated in this forum. It's a pity that few people think about it. Does Twitch think that a licensed casino will be more reliable than a reputable casino with a provewable fair system? Ok, but why impose (by banning) your backward point of view on all users of your platform? I hope this will lead to the fact that crypto casinos (and other services) will gradually create the rest of the infrastructure (including streaming platforms) with less censorship and arbitrariness.

[Baofeng]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

Still they are allowing the sport betting even poker if I am not wrong and that is what mostly gambled and steamed ones then what is the actual reason of the ban?

So its just fornthe sake of showing the platform is being responsible but without actually not really disturbing anything?!...

Oh well, maybe they just want to show everyone that they are really doing something as far as streaming gambling in their platform. Nevertheless, they know that they are going to lose big revenues if they allowed it to happen. So probably there could be loopholes that can be exploited based on their bans and so in months maybe they will be back to normal when everyone forgets about the issue. Again, it's all about the business, because it they continue with the blanket ban, streamers will break away and look for other platforms to continue.

[Mahanton]

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

Still they are allowing the sport betting even poker if I am not wrong and that is what mostly gambled and steamed ones then what is the actual reason of the ban?

So its just fornthe sake of showing the platform is being responsible but without actually not really disturbing anything?!...

Oh well, maybe they just want to show everyone that they are really doing something as far as streaming gambling in their platform. Nevertheless, they know that they are going to lose big revenues if they allowed it to happen. So probably there could be loopholes that can be exploited based on their bans and so in months maybe they will be back to normal when everyone forgets about the issue. Again, it's all about the business, because it they continue with the blanket ban, streamers will break away and look for other platforms to continue.

If ever they would really make out some exemptions when they have totally announce for that ban then people would turn out or having those impressions that they cant really be trusted basing up on the behavior that they have done.I wont really be that surprised if this ban would be ineffective for some time or they would revert it back.For now the issue is still hot which it would really be that normal that they would really
be needing on at least showing off some action in regarding to this incident because if they wont then it would really be affecting heavily their company which would really be a bad thing to create some bad
image which would really something that they dont really like or want to happen.So actions are just typical ones for a company to do so.

[robelneo]

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

I don't know the guy, if its a donation and he explained that he wants to use it to explore casinos and their consent from his followers is acceptable but if he is lying and he ask for money directly then its abuse, it's ok to ask for support by posting your receiving address but not going directly or specifically to people by messaging them its abuse.

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

Update: Twitch has placed a ban on off shore casinos.
https://i.imgur.com/jTqZTAq.png

They should just ban the guy there are good streamers too who just want to share their experiences so people will have ideas about what it's like playing on those casinos, they just need to take out bad actors and retain good actors and monitor these streamers.

[uneng]

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

The platform could add a warning message on gambling lives and channels without completely banning it. There is no reason to ban gambling content just because there are kids accessing the website, otherwise youtube and every social medias would have to remove this content as well. Moreover, to educate people regards the dangers of gambling you can't completely remove gambling content from the internet. They must understand gambling exists, it's part of daily life, many people around them can be gamblers and their only option is to deal with this situation in a way they don't prejudice themselves.

If you pretend gambling doesn't exist by removing it from platforms like Twitch, people will have an illusion they are safe from its risks, while the reality is that they will not be able to deal with a gambling situation when they face it for real.

[Wexnident]

Most likely this change in the TOS and policy was caused by the backlash twitch got from the public after the twitch employees/staff were caught receiving "bribes" from gambling streamers. That could've snowballed out of control for the company and it would've been a really nasty situation for them so they acted quickly and made the appropiate changes. Props to them for that

Interesting, I don't think I've ever heard of it (not that I've heard much of twitch in the first place tbf). It's also odd since, well, why were the streamers hit instead of the staff? That's kind of more of an internal issue after all imo.

The platform could add a warning message on gambling lives and channels without completely banning it. There is no reason to ban gambling content just because there are kids accessing the website, otherwise youtube and every social medias would have to remove this content as well. Moreover, to educate people regards the dangers of gambling you can't completely remove gambling content from the internet. They must understand gambling exists, it's part of daily life, many people around them can be gamblers and their only option is to deal with this situation in a way they don't prejudice themselves.

Honestly, one idea I've always had for people to know that it's a gambling stream (and be irritating as well) is just to put it in a big red banner in the front saying "GAMBLING STREAM, WARNING!" kind of like those kinds of obnoxious adds. Directly warns people and also irritates usual gamblers to the point of leaving. Damages the streamer yes, but I think that's the cost for streaming gambling in the first place.

[PX-Z]

Yeah, i just recently read a mews regarding the banning of gambling streams in twitch. This is bad news to all streamers who use twitch as their platform although not that huge to affect gambling community.
But since it still next month, creating another account to other alternative platform and start building its influence as streamers.