Going to war means let's ulter the economic progression

[inthelongrun]

...There are many negative effect of war but no profit...[/url]

I probably read all of the wars that are written in the books. And it is actually all about profit, either by land, power, religion, and ethnicity. Wars may be costly of course but those involved especially the aggressor calculated it already and made sure that it is all worth it.

So let's talk about the example which is the current Russian invasion of Ukraine. Do we really think Putin and his cabinets didn't expect heavy sanctions and losses coming? Of course, they analyzed as many possible outcomes. Russia believes that it is worth it to invade Ukraine in order to strengthen its position in the country and the possibility of stopping it from joining NATO. If Ukraine joins NATO then there is a high possibility that nukes will be installed. Crimea a part of Ukraine that was taken earlier by Russia has been a big naval base of the Russian navy since the old times and it will be in danger if Ukraine joins NATO.

Although Russia didn't expect the war to prolong I think it will end with the aggressor holding big Crimea and the rebel regions of Luhansk and Donetsk in the east. There are only over 200 million Russians and its vast lands are rich enough for them to recover its economic losses in the coming years.

I am not saying that I am a pro-Russian invasion here. I believe wars should be prevented at all costs. But as a long-time history and current events follower, I can see the Russian point of view.

[arwin100]

No economic movement on countries affected equals a total economic disturbance to the countries affected this is why government should think more harder because this decision will not really create any huge benefits to them and its just a waste of human lives and resources since for sure on this current state where many countries form an alliance for sure those country initiate a war will be put more on huge economical decline.

[davis196]

The global recession was coming even without the war in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine will simply accelerate the whole process.
There's nothing we can do to stop the war. Russia is mobilizing approximately 300K men, so this war is going to continue in the next year or two. A good thing is that the global recession might push the oil prices down, which might help the western and Asian economies a little bit.
Russia is building a wartime economy, which seems like an experiment that would fail in the long run, despite the massive abundance of natural resources. Putin doesn't care about the economic growth of Russia.

[yhiaali3]

This is what war brings. War brings nothing but devastation and destruction to the economy and infrastructure as well as to people on both sides of the war. Looking at the current Ukrainian-Russian war, you find that everyone is a loser. Russia is destroying its economy little by little because of the war and the economic blockade. Ukraine is being destroyed militarily and losing its resources. Europe is also suffering. From fuel shortages and high prices due to the Russian blockade and the interruption of fuel supplies. There is no winner in war.

[Reid]

Yes. But a country whose main product is ammunition and weaponry will be in good business here. That's why they are the ones who are questioned for creating war because of their businesses. We all know what country that is.
They are paid differently, it's either power or like a loan shark that will topple the economy of the country who participate in war for years. Debt is a powerful weapon now. You can even control one country or city just because of it.
Economic progression will definitely slow down before they can stand on their own again.

[so98nn]

Obviously the whole supply chain stops or gets hampered with the war. With the live example of Russia, Ukraine different countries taking different sides, getting sanctions imposed and thus stopping the import export businesses all over the world is nothing but loss for the economy. Moreover, for every life that’s taken in the war we loose huge amount of asset for that country! A life has no price tag, because it’s priceless so it’s but obvious that everything gets disturbed. The whole family, their life circle resets, they need to regrow and settle.  It takes time and we already know how hard life is to have average lifestyle in the current inflation and it’s growing.

[Mauser]

War is a very bad thing for humanity, thousands of lives are lost and a lot of material and livelihoods are destroyed. It's usually a few powerful people at the top who decide about the fate of millions of people. It's sad that still in 2022 the world is in such a medieval mindset. The world needs to change to make wars a think of the past. The problem is that not everybody is hurting during war times, there are people who profit or it. For example, the weapon manufacturers in Europe and North America are making a lot of money right now. Western governments are sending their older equipment from stockpile to Ukraine and replace it with new weapons. On top of that did many countries increase their military budget. And then there are the many twitter videos that show how successful Ukraine is fighting with Western equipment, that's free marketing for the arms dealers.

[naira]

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

Nothing is profitable when war occurs except countries that supply weapons and drugs. Therefore there are sanctions, but it turns out that seeing the phenomenon of the war that occurred between Ukraine and Russia did not make Russia stop its aggression. Russia power with all the resources it has makes it immune to sanctions and even threatens back to countries that impose sanctions by stopping oil imports.
In today's era, there should be no more colonized countries, all must be independent and stand on their own feet. Enjoy legal freedom. Competition between big countries cannot be separated from the effects felt by the surrounding countries.

[worldofcoins]

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

Indeed effects of war include every point you stated, but we don't see the case with Russia; only Ukraine is suffering these points.
I don't know about Russia supplying energy to Europe, but Russia is indeed a very large supplier of gas to the world, including Ukraine.

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

I don't understand everything you wrote but yes War on both sides is disastrous both the countries are losing their supplies Ukraine in extreme quantity compared to Russia.
I think Russia has already won the war looking at how many countries Ukraine needed to side with it.

[JoyMarsha]

War jeopardize the economy and health being of its citizens. No country that encounters war remains the same no matter how developed or equipped it is financially. It should be avoided. The damage caused and the agony experience in war can be devastating to forget in one lifespan.

[Fortify]

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.

War is easy, in the sense that it just requires destruction and hate, it does not produce anything good. It's a lot harder to be constructive and creative, which blossom best in a free society. Unfortunately in many authoritarian style governments these sad old men, who are getting close to death and have nothing else to lose, are content to kill many people in their pointless conquests. Take Putin for example, he has positively shattered any illusion that Russia is a real superpower in the world, it's economy is now in tatters and generations more Russian's will suffer into the future because of his arrogance. The Russian military has been exposed as a terrible joke and he threw away any image of strength that might have existed before this year started.

[rby]

Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.

There's no reason to go for war and the people that ends up fighting the war do so against their wish because they are obliged by the law to do so in thr name of defence of their country's territory or prestige. Some of the soldiers don't know the actual reason for fighting and if they know, they wouldn't want to fight.

War alters the economic progression for the mean time and for the future. Its effect is so severe that it affects the posterity.
Peace is priceless, let's pursue peace and shaun war.

[Gyfts]

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

The military industrial complex can profit a lot from war, if they are so inclined. It usually involves an incestuous relationship between the private sector and government. The citizens pay, the members of government gets their kickbacks and the war industrial companies profit.

The Russian war is different insofar as "for-profit" wars are concerned. The effects wouldn't be so debilitating had there not been so much focus on environmental concerns within the context of energy production. The entirety of Europe can hardly afford the price hike in energy and winter is coming. Who cares about the environment? The reduction in agricultural industries are because of fertilizer shortages, not the environment.

[tbterryboy]

A friend of mine recounted an ordeal at his workplace, in which, fighting between colleagues cost them their jobs. War is expensive, in whatever form it comes and as such it must be avoided.
Although most cases require that both parties throw a few punches to buttress a point, with modernization and the ability for disagreeing parties to sit together and reach a compromise, it shouldn't resort to tearing down infrastructures or taking lives before listening ears interfere to prevent a breakdown of economic and political order.

But, it will also look wrong if you won't fight back if your opponents are the ones who started the fight and not you and then they keep on bothering you even if you distance yourself from them. This is why some don't have a choice but to fight back as well only for their dignity and for safety. Your friend should get a sympathy and those who witness it should help him financially because he lost his job or they can also help him to find another job replacement.

Same with what happened in Ukraine. They also receive a help from other countries because other countries know that it wasn't really their fault but they only fight back only to defend their country and to save lots of innocent lives and properties.

[justdimin]

The war could not only ruin and end lives but also kills the economy as it gets worse each day. The innocent lives of those who are trying to survive are highly affected by economic progression. Even huge capitalists and investors are affected. It could cause a global economic crisis just like what is happening right now due to the war between Russia and Ukraine.

As much as possible, small countries that couldn't deal with the effects of war are trying to avoid it but there are powerful countries that want invasion since they're fully equipped and prepared for its consequences just to pursue their desires. It could definitely affect people not just physically but also emotionally and could even cause trauma. If the current war wouldn't end as soon as possible, there will be a huge effect globally that we might experience in the future especially since Russia has a huge role in the oil supply globally.

Lives are at stake and that is much worse than the economy part, I understand people all around the world who are not involved in this war doesn't care about the possibility of death, because they are not living there.

But, imagine being a person from Ukraine, and how there is a possibility that Russia could literally bomb you and kill you and cause you so much pain, in fact worst thing could be them killing everyone you love and not killing you, making you suffer through life knowing that everyone you loved has died in agony due to war. Hence, bad economy or not, I accept even worse economy if the war would end, but it would also help the economy too, so ending the war has super amazing results.

[Doan9269]

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression

No one prays for war to occur because there will be unrest everywhere and the cost of lives to it will be without numbers with these among other loses but in other way round, let's consider if there should ever be a need for engaging into war if it's as important as many thought of, when a country, it's leaders or a particular set of people engage in an illegal act or activities that is against the growth and development of the people, lives and property and thereby holding the people on hostage denying them freedom amd right to a good and free living, then comes in an intervention from other countries more in power to fight for the oppressed through engaging into war with each other just to safe humanity and lives, such basis for war is genuine and acceptable because it free the people from being hypnotized and got colonized by rebels or bad leaders.

[South Park]

War has always been associated with altered economic progression for citizens who then become victims of the harsh economic realities they will have to face as a result of crisis. But there are some people and companies that benefit and are not really affected whenever there is a crisis for instance, the manufacturers of guns and ammunitions, pharmaceutical supplies as well and relief materials are always in profit.

Unfortunately people and governments have a completely different view of war, for the people a war is a horrible event, if they happen to be part of it, this means they will lose their home, jobs and even be forced to fight and lose their lives as well, but for governments war is a business, which is what makes them way more eager to want to wage it as they are not the ones carrying the heavy consequences of a protracted war, and while I think the majority of the people longs for a world without war, I do not think this is something we will live to see.

[Johnyz]

War has always been associated with altered economic progression for citizens who then become victims of the harsh economic realities they will have to face as a result of crisis. But there are some people and companies that benefit and are not really affected whenever there is a crisis for instance, the manufacturers of guns and ammunitions, pharmaceutical supplies as well and relief materials are always in profit.

Unfortunately people and governments have a completely different view of war, for the people a war is a horrible event, if they happen to be part of it, this means they will lose their home, jobs and even be forced to fight and lose their lives as well, but for governments war is a business, which is what makes them way more eager to want to wage it as they are not the ones carrying the heavy consequences of a protracted war, and while I think the majority of the people longs for a world without war, I do not think this is something we will live to see.

War becomes the basis of the government strength, they really see this differently and the only option for then is to increase their war defense or invade other countries and have a war. Do you imagine why terrorist are still here? That is because most of them are being funded by the government itself because if there’s a terrorist there will be more budget for their defense and that could be the start of corruption. War is not good at all, so as a concerned citizen we should continue to condemn any government from declaring war, this can put our lives into a more dangerous environment, Let’s all hope for humanity and peace.

[gantez]

Unfortunately people and governments have a completely different view of war, for the people a war is a horrible event, if they happen to be part of it, this means they will lose their home, jobs and even be forced to fight and lose their lives as well, but for governments war is a business, which is what makes them way more eager to want to wage it as they are not the ones carrying the heavy consequences of a protracted war, and while I think the majority of the people longs for a world without war, I do not think this is something we will live to see.

Some war are not business mind because some country don't produce war weapons but they still go on to war. The reason for the war is not only for selling of war machines but they go into war if the people in government have ego. Too much ego and pride make for selfish reason of going for war. When the head of state want to show superior to the other president, he can decide for war because of that pride and will not make peace in between the both. Pride is the problem for war like Putin of Russia not agreeing for peace no matter peace discussion agreement.

[Smack That Ace]

...There are many negative effect of war but no profit...[/url]

I probably read all of the wars that are written in the books. And it is actually all about profit, either by land, power, religion, and ethnicity. Wars may be costly of course but those involved especially the aggressor calculated it already and made sure that it is all worth it.

So let's talk about the example which is the current Russian invasion of Ukraine. Do we really think Putin and his cabinets didn't expect heavy sanctions and losses coming? Of course, they analyzed as many possible outcomes. Russia believes that it is worth it to invade Ukraine in order to strengthen its position in the country and the possibility of stopping it from joining NATO. If Ukraine joins NATO then there is a high possibility that nukes will be installed. Crimea a part of Ukraine that was taken earlier by Russia has been a big naval base of the Russian navy since the old times and it will be in danger if Ukraine joins NATO.

Although Russia didn't expect the war to prolong I think it will end with the aggressor holding big Crimea and the rebel regions of Luhansk and Donetsk in the east. There are only over 200 million Russians and its vast lands are rich enough for them to recover its economic losses in the coming years.

I am not saying that I am a pro-Russian invasion here. I believe wars should be prevented at all costs. But as a long-time history and current events follower, I can see the Russian point of view.

Sure, all wars start with a goal and there will be profits in it. No country spends billions of dollars to wage war without taking into account profit, profit here is about territory, people, natural resources...
Today, the world is no longer the same as before, war is very unlikely, it is no longer an invasion between big countries and small countries to win resources or assert their position. It only flares up when there are problems that cannot be solved by foreign policy and it directly affects the safety and interests of the country.

Like you, I must say that war between Russia and Ukraine is a crime and should never be supported or encouraged. But in the case of Russia, if they don't act, Ukraine joins NaTo then the safety of its people and their prosperity will be threatened as NaTo establishes military bases close to their territory. Each side has its own reasons, it is difficult to defend either side.