Going to war means let's ulter the economic progression

[temple]

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large

War is something I don't think any individual or nation would want to be in. That's why every possible means to avoid it if possible is been sort for but, the need to exercise some form of sovereignty or be in charge of your own territory and avoid influence often makes it in editable in conflict situations and resolutions.
In war, people get to lose there homes and means of livelihood, infrastructures and civilization that took years yo build or developed is reduced to dust in minutes or hours. It's such a hard thing to take. The good thing about it is that, through all these, humanity have been seen to find a way to better ourselves.

After the field is laid plane, an opportunity for new ideas is born and it teaches men to avoid situations that could lead to war at every reasonable cost. I say reasonable because, when your sovereignty is been challenged, it's hard not to result to war.

I think your first part is very meaningful because you said that a nation doesn't want to be in war. That implies an important differentiation because often it is not the people who want the war, but the government for ideological reasons. I don't know how many Russian civilians really want the war in the Ukraine, but if I had to guess I think it is not that many. Losing your children while you don't even know or never understand what it was good for, that can't be in the interest of the civil population. So the "nation" usually doesn't want war, while the leading apparatus of that nation might force it go to war.

The destruction we are seeing in war areas is so intense these days. It often looks like there never even has been a single building. Heaps of rubble everywhere, dead people lying left right and center. No energy, no water, no heating and children get born without medical care. Not even food.

I disagree in one regard with you: you said that humanity has been seen to find a way to better ourselves. Do you really think so? There come two ideas to my mind.

The first idea is that the weapons are so deadly today, especially the nuclear arsenal, that we do indeed have a global geopolitical strategy mainly based on military deterrence. Aggressors know that if they go too far, their county would eradicated from the world map, but then probably the whole world would be destroyed anyway. It only needs a few evil minds and we could indeed have a nuclear war. Do we have such an evil mind on the planet right now? I can't say yes, but I also can't say no.

The second idea is that war has only seemingly become less brutal because a hundred years ago there was less artillery and more close contact combats. That was brutal. Watching your enemy in the eyes while killing them is the worst one can imagine. Today you have way less close contact combat. That makes it easier for people to push the button. But think about it: does that make us any better than the people from a 100 years ago? When we conduct military operations as if we were playing chess or a computer game? That's the brutal part of today's war as empathy is close to zero once you marked your target on the screen and push fire. It is only digital. It is about coordinates, about software, about a canon that can fire miles and miles and miles. Dead people are no faces anymore, but numbers.

I get what you are saying @Smartvirus and I have been thinking about that question myself a lot. But the whole drone game slowly but surely feels like war has turned into a board game for its most part and we all know that board games feel much better on the inside than actually truly killing another body with your own hands.

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[Ozero]

War is something I don't think any individual or nation would want to be in. That's why every possible means to avoid it if possible is been sort for but, the need to exercise some form of sovereignty or be in charge of your own territory and avoid influence often makes it in editable in conflict situations and resolutions.
In war, people get to lose there homes and means of livelihood, infrastructures and civilization that took years yo build or developed is reduced to dust in minutes or hours. It's such a hard thing to take. The good thing about it is that, through all these, humanity have been seen to find a way to better ourselves.

Saying this, you seem to not see what Russia is doing now in Ukraine and how the inhabitants of Russia still relate to the war. For almost a year of a full-scale war, the Russians supported the war and the bombing of peaceful Ukrainian cities by about 70 percent, as well as the murder of their "brothers" Ukrainians. Only now, when the war began to reach the territory of Russia itself, when information about the heavy losses of Russians in this war periodically leaks into the media, only now some of them began to think that war is not only the annexation of foreign territories, but also devastation and death. Therefore, now support for the war there has slightly decreased to 45-50 percent.

Therefore, to say that not a single person, or nation wants war, is not true. If Russia didn't want war, it wouldn't attack Ukraine. if the Russians did not want war, they would not fight in Ukraine to seize its territory.

[DrBeer]

I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.

You are now operating with the values of a person with intelligence, honor, conscience...
And you simply can not come up with the idiocy on the basis of which tyrants and terrorists build their plans. And what are their reasons. There is no rationality, there is no logic, there is no real solution to some complex problems that cannot be solved otherwise. Although I am still opposed to the military solution of problems, and I think that we should try to look for other ways, except in cases of protecting our state, and responding to terrorists who initially do not follow any rules.
Totalitarian and authoritarian regimes, headed by crazy likenesses of the Fuhrer, are based on cowardice and fear for their lives, and inferiority complexes, which some try to realize through a primitive demonstration of strength (for example, against their own population) or aggression, for example, against a weaker one, or who can't resist. Any conflict, let alone war, always leads to destruction and loss. The affected country then needs years, and maybe decades, to recover. The aggressor country is the same, plus for many years it has become a pariah, is experiencing severe degradation, both in the economy and morality. War is very bad, I know personally, because a large-scale terrorist aggression is now being waged against my country....

[Ozero]

The problem is why other countries have to join the war too? What are the basic obstacles that make other countries also have to go to war, even though as many people know that going to war is not a good solution in terms of solving problems and instead it triggers to create more new problems that can cause a country's economy be destroyed when lost in battle. So I don't think that every country wants to go to war for no good reason at this point.

You argue simply as a theoretician, without taking into account the realities that have now developed in the international arena. The countries of Europe were so afraid of the start of a new war that they did everything possible to make it very real for them, not only a conventional war, but also with the use of nuclear weapons. The countries of Europe, and in general all other countries, tried for too long to ignore the growing military threat from Russia, and the position of appeasing the aggressor only increased the predatory appetites of Putin and his entourage.

First, Russia, using its military and political influence, achieved the creation of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic on the territory of Moldova, then in 2008 it openly carried out a military invasion of Georgia. There was no proper reaction from society to the aggression. Therefore, in 2024, Putin went further and captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and part of its eastern regions. The countries of Europe were again afraid to pacify the aggressor, introduced weak economic sanctions and calmed down on this. The Kremlin realized that it could do whatever it wanted. Therefore, Putin decided by force to return the former republics of the USSR into a single state entity under the strict control of Russia, or rather, with the help of the army, to conquer and annex them to Russia. Therefore, a full-scale war with Ukraine in 2022 was only the next stage in the implementation of Putin's plans. Next in line would be Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, then, perhaps, Poland.

The unwillingness of European countries to provoke a war with Russia just led to the fact that Russia itself began to attack its neighbors in turn under various far-fetched pretexts and got to them. Putin's aggressive plans were not destined to come true only because of Putin's unexpected powerful military resistance from Ukraine. Therefore, subduing an aggressor by military means is sometimes the only way to avoid a larger war.

Now Putin is losing the war in Ukraine and it is quite possible that, saving his life, he can use tactical nuclear weapons and not necessarily in Ukraine. This is the price of just a peaceful policy, or rather, the inaction of the world community on the military threat on its part.

[cafee_orange]

I hope that the two countries, Russia vs. Ukraine, will soon end their conflict for world conditions that continue to improve today and for future generations.
almost all countries have felt the effects of the war between the two countries which caused many industries not to operate because they were vulnerable to poor security conditions, so that many people did not work and did not earn money. I think the longer the war lasts, the more difficult it is for the world economy to develop.

[evader11]

I hope that the two countries, Russia vs. Ukraine, will soon end their conflict for world conditions that continue to improve today and for future generations.
almost all countries have felt the effects of the war between the two countries which caused many industries not to operate because they were vulnerable to poor security conditions, so that many people did not work and did not earn money. I think the longer the war lasts, the more difficult it is for the world economy to develop.

Prolonged hostilities between countries can harm not just the two countries immediately involved, but also the global economy and the well-being of individuals all across the world. War's economic consequences can be far-reaching. Industries may suffer as a result of supply chain interruptions, trade restrictions, destroyed infrastructure, and decreased investor confidence. Poor security conditions, as you indicated, can also prevent individuals from working and earning a living, leading to economic instability and poverty. Furthermore, resources that could have been used for economic development and social welfare may be redirected instead to military spending and post-war reconstruction.

[Argoo]

I hope that the two countries, Russia vs. Ukraine, will soon end their conflict for world conditions that continue to improve today and for future generations.
almost all countries have felt the effects of the war between the two countries which caused many industries not to operate because they were vulnerable to poor security conditions, so that many people did not work and did not earn money. I think the longer the war lasts, the more difficult it is for the world economy to develop.

Prolonged hostilities between countries can harm not just the two countries immediately involved, but also the global economy and the well-being of individuals all across the world. War's economic consequences can be far-reaching. Industries may suffer as a result of supply chain interruptions, trade restrictions, destroyed infrastructure, and decreased investor confidence. Poor security conditions, as you indicated, can also prevent individuals from working and earning a living, leading to economic instability and poverty. Furthermore, resources that could have been used for economic development and social welfare may be redirected instead to military spending and post-war reconstruction.

The cessation of hostilities in the event of a war between Russia and Ukraine does not mean the establishment of peace between these countries. In order for peace to come, Ukraine must definitely win. Other options, such as compromise solutions on both sides, will only delay the onset of the second stage of the war, when Russia again rebuilds its army and accumulates military equipment and ammunition. Evil in this case must be punished so that it cannot be reborn again.

[bestcoins1]

The cessation of hostilities in the event of a war between Russia and Ukraine does not mean the establishment of peace between these countries. In order for peace to come, Ukraine must definitely win. Other options, such as compromise solutions on both sides, will only delay the onset of the second stage of the war, when Russia again rebuilds its army and accumulates military equipment and ammunition. Evil in this case must be punished so that it cannot be reborn again.

The problem is how to stop Russia when the Russians start to revive their troops by equipping all the necessary equipment? Because Russia is a big country with a lot of human resources and also a lot of other resources, so Russia has a bigger power in terms of war than Ukraine.

So the choice of peace is a more appropriate thing in my opinion than one of them having to win in war because when one wins, of course the other one has to lose and that of course will result in revenge which might be reciprocated when the loser returns. the power to raise war again. That's why I prefer them to make peace with a more solid agreement so that there will be no more wars in the future.

[kojektea]

yes that's true. they have to stop the war because those who are affected are ordinary citizens who happen to be in their country. they work to pay for their daily life but it is still not enough because in a state of war many lose not only one's life. i heard in parts of europe even electricity and gas prices they have to pay $1000 for it. I don't know if it's real or not, but it hurts if it's real.

[AmoreJaz]

yes that's true. they have to stop the war because those who are affected are ordinary citizens who happen to be in their country. they work to pay for their daily life but it is still not enough because in a state of war many lose not only one's life. i heard in parts of europe even electricity and gas prices they have to pay $1000 for it. I don't know if it's real or not, but it hurts if it's real.

there's no winner at all in all kinds of war. i believe zelensky is just standing its position just to defend his constituents. well, we don't know when will this stop but hopefully very soon. a lot are suffering especially civilians on this war.
high likely that it has been greatly affecting the life of nearby countries not only ukraine or russia.

[Kakmakr]

My personal view on this is that there are a more sinister plot behind all of these wars. It is not just a political reason, but an economical strategy to "reset" markets.

Just look at the major market shifts around the world, when a war is announced. The stock markets take a huge blow and "reset" for rich people to make more profits. (Insiders must know about these wars in advance and they sell before the markets start to plummet)

The manufacturers of arms and ammunition are smiling, because they make huge profits in time of war.

Governments also reduce unemployment, because civilians are called up for duty to protect their country. A lot of people are killed, so they are also reducing the population. 

[Argoo]

The cessation of hostilities in the event of a war between Russia and Ukraine does not mean the establishment of peace between these countries. In order for peace to come, Ukraine must definitely win. Other options, such as compromise solutions on both sides, will only delay the onset of the second stage of the war, when Russia again rebuilds its army and accumulates military equipment and ammunition. Evil in this case must be punished so that it cannot be reborn again.

The problem is how to stop Russia when the Russians start to revive their troops by equipping all the necessary equipment? Because Russia is a big country with a lot of human resources and also a lot of other resources, so Russia has a bigger power in terms of war than Ukraine.

So the choice of peace is a more appropriate thing in my opinion than one of them having to win in war because when one wins, of course the other one has to lose and that of course will result in revenge which might be reciprocated when the loser returns. the power to raise war again. That's why I prefer them to make peace with a more solid agreement so that there will be no more wars in the future.

Talk about a lasting peace between Russia and Ukraine is all empty and non-binding words. In this case, the question immediately arises: under what conditions will peace be concluded. If someone wants to keep the territories of Ukraine now occupied by Russia, then it should be understood that even after the declaration of peace there, it will still not happen. The Russians want to destroy the Ukrainians as a nation, and therefore they are now killing pro-Ukrainian Ukrainians. Therefore, guerrilla warfare will continue in the occupied territories anyway. In addition, now the citizens of Ukraine are determined not to give any of their territories to anyone. They are now dying for it on a front stretching over a thousand kilometers. Peace is possible only after the last Russian occupier leaves the territory of Ukraine or lies down in its fertile soil.

[DrBeer]

My personal view on this is that there are a more sinister plot behind all of these wars. It is not just a political reason, but an economical strategy to "reset" markets.
Just look at the major market shifts around the world, when a war is announced. The stock markets take a huge blow and "reset" for rich people to make more profits. (Insiders must know about these wars in advance and they sell before the markets start to plummet)
The manufacturers of arms and ammunition are smiling, because they make huge profits in time of war.
Governments also reduce unemployment, because civilians are called up for duty to protect their country. A lot of people are killed, so they are also reducing the population.

Reptilians, Mormons, the Khmer Rouge conspiracy, the Yakuza, Cthulhu in the end - with a rich imagination, you can attach ANY event to each of them, and even the terrorist war unleashed by Russia in Ukraine.

But there are simpler facts. Well, the rule, as ancient as the world - "look for someone who benefits" answers these questions. I will explain this from the side of a resident of Ukraine. I will give simple and verifiable facts.

The beginning of the anti-Ukrainian policy of the Kremlin did not begin in 2014 or 2022, it happened much earlier. It was put around 2005 when the pro-Russian PR lost the presidential election. Ukraine was headed by an absolutely pro-Ukrainian president. And a pro-European vector of development began to develop in Ukraine.
This is not about NATO, there is no need to try to use this topic as "it provoked Russia." About NATO, as a trigger for Russia's reaction - this is a FALSE. You can check - THE FIRST official statement about the choice of movement towards NATO appeared ... in 2018 - 4 years after the start of Russian terrorist aggression against Ukraine.

It was 2005 that marked the beginning of Russia's anti-Ukrainian doctrine. Ukraine's withdrawal from Russia's sphere of influence and transition to the European Economic Area did not bode well for Russia. There are a huge number of reasons - economic, political, and reputational losses of Russia, and much more.
After 2005, Russia poured in huge amounts of money to create a positive image of pro-Russian political forces, sabotage pro-Ukrainian politicians, and much more. The effect was obtained - in 2010 the Party of Regions headed by Yanukovych returned to power again. And until 2013, we can say there were internal processes, and until November 2013, the President adhered to his obligations to continue the European vector of development. A sharp, inexplicable rejection of the European vector, a 180-degree turn, and "we are going into the arms of Russia." The population did not accept this, and no one explained the reasons ... Then I'm sure you know what happened.

And most importantly, "who benefits?". The benefits and goals of Russia are primitive:
- Political benefits: Destroy democratic scenarios - like the Maidan in Ukraine, where the people showed that they are in power, and the president is OJABZAN to fulfill his promises to the people. For the totalitarian Kremlin, this is an unacceptable, deadly scenario.
- The economic component - without Ukraine, the economy of the Customs Union is inferior, many industrial enterprises in Ukraine provided the defense capability of Russia, supplied solutions for key areas of the economy.
- Gas and gas transportation system. In Russia, there are only main channels for pumping gas, but there are no large gas storage facilities. Without this, it is impossible to ensure contractual conditions for gas transit. In addition, already in the eastern regions (Donetsk, Lugansk region of Ukraine) huge deposits of gas were discovered. And contracts for joint development were already being prepared. Do you remember how all of a sudden all the pro-Russian media started screaming that "shale gas is EVIL!" ? Yes, yes, this happened precisely after the information about the largest deposits of shale gas in Europe, on the territory of Ukraine, appeared. And this would lead to the loss of Russia's monopolized EU gas market.
- Psychiatry Here the problems need to be studied, but for some reason Putin decided that he was a new tsar, a collector of some fictional "Russian lands", a restorer of the USSR, and other mental nonsense.


In a word, you should not look for fairy tale stories to describe the reasons for the start of the terrorist war against Ukraine. Russia is the aggressor, Russia is the initiator.

Can you offer a logical, reasoned, and not a fantastic explanation, from the point of view, for example, this is not Russia the initiator of a terrorist attack on Ukraine, but ....? Let there be anyone, the main thing is that the arguments and common sense? It will be very interesting to listen!

The only thing I can agree with is that some countries, seeing where the situation is heading for Russia, and realizing the change in the balance of power, began to use this for their own benefit. Among such beneficiaries are China, India, Iran and some other countries that "help" Russia, some for simple enrichment, some for the implementation of their complexes ....

[Argoo]

I hope that the two countries, Russia vs. Ukraine, will soon end their conflict for world conditions that continue to improve today and for future generations.
almost all countries have felt the effects of the war between the two countries which caused many industries not to operate because they were vulnerable to poor security conditions, so that many people did not work and did not earn money. I think the longer the war lasts, the more difficult it is for the world economy to develop.

Before the upcoming big offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front and realizing the inevitability of a military defeat, Russia is panicking and trying to compensate for the lack of any victories in Ukraine by continuing massive missile attacks and drone attacks, mainly supplied from Iran, on cities and other settlements throughout Ukraine .

During May, Russia fired more than 500 missiles and more than 400 kamikaze drones into Ukraine. 90% of air targets were shot down by Ukrainian air defense forces. Russia spent $1.7 billion on these attacks in May alone.

  Thus, in May, the Russian Armed Forces launched 563 missiles in Ukraine and 533 of them were shot down. In May, there were about 20 combined Russian air attacks. Most of them were sent to the Ukrainian capital.

The Russian Federation also launched 401 Shahed-136 Iranian kamikaze drones towards Ukraine. Ukrainian air defense forces destroyed 362 drones. Each such drone costs about 20 thousand dollars.

It is worth noting that among the high-precision missiles launched in Ukraine were 7 Kinzhal missiles and 16 Iskander missiles, which Russia was especially proud of as capable of bypassing any air defense. But Ukrainian air defense shot them all down. This dealt a colossal blow to the reputation of the Russian military industry.

[DrBeer]

I hope that the two countries, Russia vs. Ukraine, will soon end their conflict for world conditions that continue to improve today and for future generations.
almost all countries have felt the effects of the war between the two countries which caused many industries not to operate because they were vulnerable to poor security conditions, so that many people did not work and did not earn money. I think the longer the war lasts, the more difficult it is for the world economy to develop.

Before the upcoming big offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front and realizing the inevitability of a military defeat, Russia is panicking and trying to compensate for the lack of any victories in Ukraine by continuing massive missile attacks and drone attacks, mainly supplied from Iran, on cities and other settlements throughout Ukraine .

During May, Russia fired more than 500 missiles and more than 400 kamikaze drones into Ukraine. 90% of air targets were shot down by Ukrainian air defense forces. Russia spent $1.7 billion on these attacks in May alone.

  Thus, in May, the Russian Armed Forces launched 563 missiles in Ukraine and 533 of them were shot down. In May, there were about 20 combined Russian air attacks. Most of them were sent to the Ukrainian capital.

The Russian Federation also launched 401 Shahed-136 Iranian kamikaze drones towards Ukraine. Ukrainian air defense forces destroyed 362 drones. Each such drone costs about 20 thousand dollars.

It is worth noting that among the high-precision missiles launched in Ukraine were 7 Kinzhal missiles and 16 Iskander missiles, which Russia was especially proud of as capable of bypassing any air defense. But Ukrainian air defense shot them all down. This dealt a colossal blow to the reputation of the Russian military industry.

Tonight, I personally experienced another rocket attack on Kyiv. Again they used ballistic missiles against a peaceful, sleeping city (the shelling took place at 3 am Kyiv time). The results of the tantrums of the offended miserable under-furrer are 3 human victims. 2 of them are children... This is what the "heroic Russian world" looks like, this is what "saving the fraternal people" looks like.

But back to economics.
Now the Kremlin is in hysterics, there are several problems:
1. understanding that a well-prepared, secured counteroffensive is a fact, and there is nothing to oppose to this.
2. demonstrative liberation of the Bryansk region by the Russian Legion of Liberators of Russia. In 1 day, an area in Russia was demilitarized and denazified, much larger than the area of ​​the city of Bakhmut, which the Russian second army of the world, plus criminals, has been trying to occupy for 10+ months! Moreover, the liberators of the Belgorod region entered and left without loss, and moreover, with the capture of Russian equipment! And Russia could not do anything!
The slap in the face turned out to be so strong that in the Kremlin they were silent for 2 days, they didn’t know what to say

And now, because of the hysterics of the Fuhrer of the Kremlin, the RF Armed Forces began to use the strategic stock of missile weapons. Another week or two of such attacks - and Russia will turn out to be a huge territory, which is guarded with equipment from the middle of the last century, criminals and demoralized people in uniform

All this costs a lot of money, which the Russian economy lacks like air! Financial losses, plus the loss of the population (in the literal sense) and the loss of the population's loyalty to the Kremlin junta - this is an irreversible process. It will end predictably - like the story with the USSR.

And very important - REPUTATIONAL! After all, all these Daggers and Iskanderif were presented to the whole world as "not knocked down at all!" And here is the air defense of Ukraine, for the most part with complexes of the 70-90s of the last century - EVERYONE SHOT UP!

You know that after this failure, all the key developers of the Iskander (and the Dagger is the Iskander launched from an airplane) were ARRESTED and accused of spying for China! 

PS By the way - regarding the loyalty and support of the Russian population of Russia. I highly recommend reading the reaction of the Russian public after the raid of Ukrainian drones on Moscow, and especially on the village of Rublyovka - the place of residence of the Russian elites. Do you know what the population of Russia did? JOYED! What flew to Rublyovka and Moscow! Everything you need to know about Russian society... This is a human, moral INFLATION
And the most interesting thing is the reaction of the Kremlin
- The mouthpiece of the Kremlin nightingales, watered with choice mats ALL THE POPULATION of Russia, which rejoiced at the fact of the shelling of Msokva and specifically Rublyovka
- At the level of the Kremlin, a decision was made to prepare a plan for the evacuation of the residents of Rublyovka "to a zone inaccessible to aircraft." The truth about the rest of the population of Russia is no one cares, it is expected however

[Argoo]

Tonight, Russia committed another terrorist attack and a terrible military crime in the occupied part of the Kherson region of Ukraine, blowing up the Kakhovskaya HPP in order to impede the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which began a few days ago. An explosion from the engine room, where the generators are located, almost completely destroyed the HPP. The remaining water washes away. Experts say that it is no longer possible to restore the Kakhovskaya HPP. 11 out of 28 spans have been destroyed, about 80 settlements may fall into the flood zone. In the southern part of Ukraine, this act of terrorism will cause a great ecological catastrophe. Many settlements will be flooded, others will not be able to receive drinking water. A catastrophe threatens even the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, the reactor circuit of which is cooled by water from the Kakhovka reservoir, the water level of which falls by 15 centimeters every hour. At the same time, due to the sharp shallowing of the Kakhovka reservoir, water will not flow to the occupied Crimean peninsula in the next ten years.

With the undermining of the Kakhovskaya HPP, which the Russians had mined since October last year, they apparently overdid it. The occupied left bank is much lower than the right one, and the main part of the water rushed there, flooding their first defensive fortifications. According to the interception of the occupiers' conversations on the radio station, they are sitting on trees, water is coming and they are asking to be rescued.

[Blowon]

I think they should be able to make peace soon because it really affects the economy in European countries. yes, I saw several posts a few months ago showing that gas in Europe has increased several times more than before, the losers are the civilians who should not be involved in this war. I think this is a matter of the top brass, hoping that the war will end soon and the economy between the two camps will return to stability, it will make people's lives much better.

[Argoo]

I think they should be able to make peace soon because it really affects the economy in European countries. yes, I saw several posts a few months ago showing that gas in Europe has increased several times more than before, the losers are the civilians who should not be involved in this war. I think this is a matter of the top brass, hoping that the war will end soon and the economy between the two camps will return to stability, it will make people's lives much better.

Talks and discussions about reconciliation between Russia and Ukraine are nothing more than the good wishes of those who do not understand the current situation between these warring countries. The military-political leadership of Russia has set the goal of destroying Ukrainians as a nation and Ukraine as a state. As long as Russia does not give up these intentions, any talks about peace with her are useless and cannot lead to anything. Ukraine also cannot leave Ukrainians in the territories occupied by Russia, so that they continue to be physically destroyed there. Therefore, Ukraine sets the condition for the complete withdrawal of all Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine, including its occupied parts since 2014, as the first point to achieve peace.

The undermining of the Kakhovskaya HPP and the prohibition of Russian troops to evacuate the residents of the city of Oleshki, which they occupied and flooded (due to the destruction of the Kakhovskaya HPP, the water there rose to seven meters and therefore sometimes the roofs of the houses are not even visible), confirms the tactics of the Russians to destroy all living things in the occupied territories of Ukraine and completely destroy it infrastructure. Do you think that it is possible to negotiate something with such barbarians?

[Latviand]

I think they should be able to make peace soon because it really affects the economy in European countries. yes, I saw several posts a few months ago showing that gas in Europe has increased several times more than before, the losers are the civilians who should not be involved in this war. I think this is a matter of the top brass, hoping that the war will end soon and the economy between the two camps will return to stability, it will make people's lives much better.

I don't think peace is in the table right now, I think that the only way that the war will stop is if Ukraine gives up the part that's already occupied or they could revoke their invitation to join NATO, Putin has a lot of resources and even with all the sanctions, in a war of attrition they will be victorious. Economy wise, I don't think we're going to see any green pastures anytime soon even if the war ended, the cost of the destruction will be of paramount importance to be addressed.

[DrBeer]

I think they should be able to make peace soon because it really affects the economy in European countries. yes, I saw several posts a few months ago showing that gas in Europe has increased several times more than before, the losers are the civilians who should not be involved in this war. I think this is a matter of the top brass, hoping that the war will end soon and the economy between the two camps will return to stability, it will make people's lives much better.

I apologize for my possible rudeness, but it is not possible to "make up" in this situation. Kremlin Nazism is already openly and openly stating that the goal is to DESTROY UKRAINE. Understand a very simple truth - "Rashism" is a cancerous tumor and cannot be reconciled with. Cancer can only be cured by complete destruction, otherwise it comes back and kills the organism that has decided that it has "made peace" with cancer.
You just can't imagine what Russia is really doing here in Ukraine. I'll tell you - the Nazis of Germany are "small spoilsports" against their background...

And to return to the subject - from an economic point of view, accepting economic international terror from russia would also be the ultimate idiotic thing to do. Understand one thing, in any relations with russia it is impossible to conduct any business relations and agree on anything. They don't care about laws, they don't care about signed treaties, they don't care about anything except their imperial ambitions.
And the population is just a tool, disenfranchised and reduced to an infernal state.
I have personally heard the interrogations of the captured "soldiers of the second army of the world". Do you know what most of the first wave mobilized in Russia answered when asked "why did you come to us in Ukraine"? No, not to "protect" from the phantom "Bandera people" the Russian language, but. "...and we have nowhere to make money, a bunch of loans, a hungry family, a sick mother and a penny pension, and prices are high. And  pay us very well for the war". They're not killing us, they're "raising their level of income." ....