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September 21, 2022, 03:47:39 AM
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .
Without a license, gambling in prison already exists, even though the way it works is not like a casino where there are bookies and they bet on the bookies but more to individuals and this is like entertainment for them.


It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.
There is no cheating there because they have no choice if committing cheating will endanger their lives because their scope remains in prison cannot to escape if caught cheating.

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September 21, 2022, 03:50:12 AM
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Pretty old article, guessing it happened because a lot of rules were still rather lax back then and they saw reason as to profit from prison (since I reckon casinos aren't as widespread and as visited compared to now). I reckon no cheating happened because well, they're in a prison, an enclosed space, no point in cheating not to mention that they're betting on money and not on their release time (imagine if that was possible lmao). Plus, I think prisons allow simple usage of say cards, dice, etc., so people can still play them imo. I don't think strict implementation is needed if all the prisoners need are simple items like dice, cards, etc.

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September 21, 2022, 04:24:55 AM
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .
Without a license, gambling in prison already exists, even though the way it works is not like a casino where there are bookies and they bet on the bookies but more to individuals and this is like entertainment for them.


It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.
There is no cheating there because they have no choice if committing cheating will endanger their lives because their scope remains in prison cannot to escape if caught cheating.

There are already different forms happening in prison for years. They usually do it to entertain themselves while paying for the crimes that they committed. I don't think they would be needing a license because it could still run continuously even if it's illegal. After all, the gameplay would only run inside the prison.
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September 21, 2022, 06:13:23 AM
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Prisons should focus on removing "criminals" from the street and then rehabilitating them to fit back into the "normal" society. It should not be a Hotel with a casino on the tax payers account.

Even though gambling  is not legal in prisons, it still happens ...and it is causing a lot of problems between inmates. They gamble for soap/food/cigarettes ...etc and when someone lose their belongings, fights erupt very quickly ....and people get hurt.

Let's rather pay taxes for criminals to be rehabilitated ...and to change them into people that can contribute positively to the society.  Wink

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September 21, 2022, 06:13:43 AM
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I guess gambling in prisons existed before but no one knows about it because the inmates and wardens don't tell outsiders.
And if the in-prison casinos reopen, it could create addiction problems that can afflict many inmates because they will see that gambling is a pleasure they can have while serving their sentence.
The government needs to be aware of this so they need to think twice before making a decision.
But the casino inside the prison shouldn't be allowed to not cause new problems for the inmates.

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September 21, 2022, 06:20:32 AM
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I feel like this is pretty much possible considering money and effort need to sustain it. But considering the fact that prisons are filled with trouble people, gambling inside may create huge issues. They may have fights. Its best to leave this out of prisons.
I can't come up with anything different. I mean someone may suggest that prisoners may be workers of casino and people from outside can play but, its still prone to many problems. Hard to say its okay.
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September 21, 2022, 06:34:24 AM
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Having casinos in a prison could be an interesting idea to make live more exciting for inmates. This has some problems that could arise if it would be allowed in all countries, because the casino would need a gambling licence and also regulators who make sure that the games are fair. The big question would be if the casinos are owned by the prison company or by external companies. The casino should only be available for good prisoners who are not violating prison rules, like that it would be another motivation for prisoners to behave. And since many prisons offer inmates the opportunity to work they would already have funds to bet with in the casinos. Maybe casinos could work with more than just money. I know that trading with goods like Ramen, Chocolate Bars and other goodies is very big in prison. So inmates might have the chance to exchange these goods for tokens to be used in the casino.
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September 21, 2022, 06:41:26 AM
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A casino in a prison would surely bring entertainment to the prisoners but there is a big problem.We are not in 1932 to 1967 anymore and the prisoners of nowadays have committed worst crimes compared to those years,the aggressiveness now is much higher and people don't like to lose money.A sure thing would be that if slots were allowed from the anger the prisoners would destroy the machines or even worst if they are playing roulette or dice as these games can bring fight between the prisoners starting a mess.

The idea is good but the implementation in such place I think for nowadays is impossible.

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September 21, 2022, 06:42:51 AM
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The prisoners won't need a casino in order to play gambling games. They could play poker or dice without a licensed casino.
Is it so difficult to get a deck of cards or dices? The prisoners can play non-gambling games like chess and backgammon as well. Grin
The main question is "What's the point of having a licensed casino inside a prison?" Does a prison casino have an educational purpose or the prisoners would just play for fun and waste their time? This seems like a proven way to not let some gambling addicts in prison get rid of their addiction. It doesn't look like a good idea to me.

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September 21, 2022, 06:50:23 AM
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Earlier came to know about this through the funny facts on gambling thread. During those days inmates might've used it as a source to get relaxation. Maybe for that reason the casino operated within the prison hadn't encountered any problem from the prisoners as well as the wardens. In today's world it is quite hard to have such access.

In today's world if such access is given, people who are into the prison for some crime will not learn to survive life but they might once again fall to other form of addiction.

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September 21, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
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Some gambling are related to crimes.. so? Why would a prison allow this to happen? It'll only received a bad reputation and people distrusting losses respect to the authority.
Prisons is supposed to be a place where people who committed crimes pay the prices of what they have done. It's not a place where a criminal finds another heaven.
So, what's gonna be next? Prisons allowing strippers to perform from cell to cell? Nah, it's getting ridiculous.

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September 21, 2022, 07:37:07 AM
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Maybe this will be a new thing in some prisons because they have no experience of having a casino in prison. But surely, there will be other problems in prison because playing gambling can make them addicted to gambling. Instead of prison as a place to get punishment, they can get other problems after getting out of prison. I think the government might not agree if some people propose this because the government is giving prison sentences so they don't repeat their actions. And although it may seem like entertainment for the inmates, it is not good entertainment because it can lead to addiction problems.

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September 21, 2022, 07:40:00 AM
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Prisons should focus on removing "criminals" from the street and then rehabilitating them to fit back into the "normal" society. It should not be a Hotel with a casino on the tax payers account.

Even though gambling  is not legal in prisons, it still happens ...and it is causing a lot of problems between inmates. They gamble for soap/food/cigarettes ...etc and when someone lose their belongings, fights erupt very quickly ....and people get hurt.

Let's rather pay taxes for criminals to be rehabilitated ...and to change them into people that can contribute positively to the society.  Wink
It is quite a old article this was those days that the government had never taken gambling so serious to the extent of having it in the prison for criminals to gamble with funds. This cam not be in existence again and the government would never take it seriously for this kind of casino to be available in the prison. This is a alone can cause violence which can trigger conflict within prison inmate. Time had passed for such to happen happen again looking at how strict prison law and enforcement are meant to make prisoners relinquish from anything that can cause arm among inmates.

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September 21, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
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I believe that prisoners should almost constantly think about why they are restricted from society, and not have fun, so a casino in prison does not fit into my understanding of the punishment system. I understand when a prison has a library, gym, TV, radio, but a casino is too much. We give part of our tax payments for the maintenance of these people, I don't think they deserve entertainment.

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September 21, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
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It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.
Well, if it's just for leisure purposes, I probably agree on that but if it involves something at stake like money or other stuff, that's a no-no. Prison was made for people that has done something wrong in their lifetime and atone for it but if they'll get addicted once again because of gambling it's another thing the authorities are probably looking at. I think it's best to know why they got defeated in the first place and these days that's probably gonna be rare considering how huge media to discuss almost everything.
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I guess gambling in prisons existed before but no one knows about it because the inmates and wardens don't tell outsiders.

It's known to the outside world back then, it's that their is no regulator that time and all decision are in the shoulder of the warden and the county's sheriff.

And if the in-prison casinos reopen, it could create addiction problems that can afflict many inmates because they will see that gambling is a pleasure they can have while serving their sentence.
The government needs to be aware of this so they need to think twice before making a decision.
But the casino inside the prison shouldn't be allowed to not cause new problems for the inmates.

It won't open because the law forbids it already. Before that, yes it is legalized in Nevada but there is no control. But once the law mandated that gambling is going to be prohibited inside prison, then the place was destroyed by the newly appointed warden and will not be revived anytime soon.

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Throughout its 35 years, various wardens either tolerated the casino or considered it a worthwhile distraction for the inmates.

I kind of agree with this disposition, I wonder why it was stopped, maybe to checkmate corruption and foul play in the prison. But casino's in prison would have made prison experience easier to bear for inmates and can have a positive effect on them by promoting their social life, if done under a properly regulated condition. Prisoners need to be kept busy and occupied throughout their prison sentence. Maybe the authorities can reconsider and have a schedule for it alongside the other activities in the prison. Real money doesn't have to be used, prisoners can just play the game.
 

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September 21, 2022, 11:17:03 AM
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Non sense idea and not ideal to do. If the casino is for only the prisoners without any outside influence, then it should be okey as it will help the prisoners to experience something unique which a lot of other prisoners don't get to experience. Good for a social experiment.

But there are multiple downsides to it. Prisoners can quickly develop a habit of gambling which can continue even after that person is released from prison. That might not become an ideal example for an ex prisoner.

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September 21, 2022, 11:32:46 AM
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Gambling in different forms is prevalent in many correctional homes and centers, in unofficial modes and word of mouth. Therefore it is not surprising to see more such events happening again and again.

I am not sure about the addiction tendencies of such inmates, it is expected to be higher than the normal population and whether this is a good practice.

Still it can be a source of entertainment and fun if done within limits by inmates.

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September 21, 2022, 11:47:05 AM
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates.

Is there a benefit if ever they will be given a legitimate casino license? Casinos inside the prison are illegal, that casino on Nevada prison were just able to operate for many years because the jail guards ignored them since it doesn't harm the inmates inside.

Even if they do it for a good cause like the profit goes for someone who will be released on parole to use it as funds on his new life, authorities will never grant them a license since they have criminal records.
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