Casino and prisons

[Saisher]

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

I'm sure it was closed down because there are corruption and the inmates become addicted and they had to ask for money from their relatives and they had to do something from other inmates who can afford to gamble for them to get money, there's no way it will open again, officials might use these inmates to commit crime for them so they can give them money to gamble and besides correctional should be a place to mend their ways not for them to become addicted to gambling.

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[Zilon]

I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?
What do you think, OP?
I only have seen this kind of gambling den in some movies inside the prison although it has something to do with the who's the Boss inside like there's a mafia or something and he's using his power like money to bribe all of the people inside and even on the outside world. I don't know if it does still exist nowadays but what kind of powerful man would do that inside the prison?

I think there's a lot of explaining to the warden if they get caught having a casino inside the prison.

When it comes to local gambling amongst this inmates i think those are common, wardens have little or nothing to do to stop them but for casinos which requires Branding, Hardwares, finance we might have to keep the bank as substitute but in all casinos require so much fundings the reason license and government regulation needs an upper hand to decide if it gets allowed or not within prisons.

In Nevada prison where casino was first sighted the tolerance from the Nevada Government somehow increased their criminal history but on the other hand revenue can be generated for the welfare of this inmates this way just like what happened in Nevada prison where a percentage of the take was deposited in the inmates welfare funds.

[coin-investor]

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

They cannot do it in a modern correctional system like what we have today, there are corruption why they did not let it continus they actually breeding new criminals after the sentence is fullfil, those prisoners who entered without record of being addictive to gambling will have new problems when they got out of the correctional, and they will go back to their criminal way just to sustain their addiction, casinos should bemonitored by the government, because there are many crimes associated to gambling and the government is spending millions of dollars to rehabilitate these gamnbling addicts.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

I'm sure it was closed down because there are corruption and the inmates become addicted and they had to ask for money from their relatives and they had to do something from other inmates who can afford to gamble for them to get money, there's no way it will open again, officials might use these inmates to commit crime for them so they can give them money to gamble and besides correctional should be a place to mend their ways not for them to become addicted to gambling.

It's evident that it won't change the prisoners for good, so it should be stop. And yes, they could be addicted to it and when they come out, they might just continue with their gambling habits and maybe be back in the correctional facilities if they committed a crime. Or just intentionally, be caught and thrown back and then they can continue with their gambling. So it doesn't bring good and it should be stop and that's what they did. And imagine if modern prisons have this one, Lol.

[YOSHIE]

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates.

this is an interesting discussion for me about gambling in nevada prisons, i often read how the process and reputation of the casinos there, about the safety for inmates who bet and commit fraud or malicious acts.

I used to think how the casinos in prisons could run smoothly and safely and were regulated to run well, but my worries were answered after reading and seeing the rules that were enforced in prisons, as I quote below.

Any concerns about cheating taking place were unlikely to be justified. Prisoners found guilty of cheating would have faced severe consequences from their fellow inmates. They would have likely needed to be transferred to an out-of-state prison for their own safety and well-being.

But it's not the security, betting or stuff about the casino that interests me, the quote below is the most interesting I've seen the coins they bet in the casino that got me thumbs up about casinos in the state of Nevada.

Interestingly, the prison casino also had its own form of currency. These came in prisoner exchange coins in denominations of 5c, 10c, 25c, 50c, $1, and $5.

The Casino In Nevada State Prison

The most memorable betting coin for me.

[rahmad2nd]

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .

Maybe we are already familiar, how inmates carry out their activities while in prison. we often see it on tv, whether it's a documentary or anything related to the type of activity in prison, in this discussion about this is a casino in prison. there is nothing we can deny, that gambling activities will always exist everywhere, including in prison institutions. whether it's traditional or like today we can start from a smartphone, however, gambling activities in prisons must be prohibited. especially as exemplified in the OP's thread, that kind of thing is really not good for someone who is serving his sentence.

Penitentiary is an institution to accommodate people who have problems with the law, the task of correctional institutions is not only to hold them in a room or one building for a certain time.  however, it is more about making them deterrent and not committing criminal acts again when they are released from prison.  if they could do something like the OP's example, either illegal or maybe licensed.

I think, very contrary to the definition of prison.

[Doell]

For small gambling such as betting on sport events etc, there may still be many operating in prison, because a few years ago my cousin was in prison and told me all of his experiences, and even the prison warden is the intermediary. But for big casinos as far as I know that's not, because my country is very strict in gambling, even not just imprisoned at outside of that no one operates legally and has a license.

[ChiBitCTy]

When you get sent to prison it's normally for a pretty good reason (unless it's for stuff like marijuana, which is a joke and a whole other story) so I'm not sure they deserve to have these types of luxuries.  Not to mention I can see gambling in prison leading to more violence in so many ways.  I don't think this is a good idea to allow this, at least not for most inmates.

[Cookdata]

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates . A similar incidence happened between 1932 and 1967 in Nevada State Prison. Despite not having licence to operate the casino existed for over 35 years and ever since then nothing of this kind has ever occurred.

This is funny to me but I think it will be entertaining to keep prisoners out of their deep thoughts and depression, however, I doubt if that will be happening in this century, but my questions are:
How did they fund the casinos and where did they get money to bet in the first place, not as if all prisoners were once a cartel who do some drugs and could one way or the other smuggle things inside the prisoners.
what were the prisoner's warders doing while all this was going on? If they are aware and this operation happens in prison for 35 years, they should all serve their jail for compromising the prisons because that's a criminal offence, they didn't say much about that on the website.

[arimamib]

In today's sophisticated era, prisons don't have to bother with facilitating inmates with a casino inside. Now casinos are available on smartphones allowing inmates to find entertainment there.
While some prisons do not allow inmates to have smartphones, a small bribe can save prison guards from having to patrol to check each inmate for smartphone possession. As far as I know there are no longer prisons operating casinos, because it is too risky for riots to occur when inmates keep losing.

[Mauser]

Maybe we are already familiar, how inmates carry out their activities while in prison. we often see it on tv, whether it's a documentary or anything related to the type of activity in prison, in this discussion about this is a casino in prison. there is nothing we can deny, that gambling activities will always exist everywhere, including in prison institutions. whether it's traditional or like today we can start from a smartphone, however, gambling activities in prisons must be prohibited. especially as exemplified in the OP's thread, that kind of thing is really not good for someone who is serving his sentence.

Penitentiary is an institution to accommodate people who have problems with the law, the task of correctional institutions is not only to hold them in a room or one building for a certain time.  however, it is more about making them deterrent and not committing criminal acts again when they are released from prison.  if they could do something like the OP's example, either illegal or maybe licensed.

I think, very contrary to the definition of prison.

It could definitely create a new set of problems if all the prisons would start running their own casinos. On a rational level it might work and could give inmates a new motivation to work and behave to get the privileges of gambling. But will this really help them to stay out of prison once their sentence is over? Now I am a bit sceptical, what if an inmate becomes addicted to gambling in prison and will start criminal activities as soon as he is free to finance his addiction? The risk is definitely there to do more harm than good. I remember hearing that more than 35% of prison inmates have substance addiction to either drugs or alcohol. And people who had an additiction in the past are more likely to become addicted to something else. It would be terrible for inmates to jump from one addiction to a gambling addiction. Also some form of gambling takes already place by playing cards in the prison. Poker is a good game that cellmates can play with each other.

[Cryptomultiplier]

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates . A similar incidence happened between 1932 and 1967 in Nevada State Prison. Despite not having licence to operate the casino existed for over 35 years and ever since then nothing of this kind has ever occurred.

This is funny to me but I think it will be entertaining to keep prisoners out of their deep thoughts and depression, however, I doubt if that will be happening in this century, but my questions are:
How did they fund the casinos and where did they get money to bet in the first place, not as if all prisoners were once a cartel who do some drugs and could one way or the other smuggle things inside the prisoners.
what were the prisoner's warders doing while all this was going on? If they are aware and this operation happens in prison for 35 years, they should all serve their jail for compromising the prisons because that's a criminal offense, they didn't say much about that on the website.

These prisoners are also humans irrespective of the crimes that may have gotten them in there.  I do believe also that games in these facilities are more for recreational and rehabilitation purposes.
The case of how they get cash for gambling in the prison casino might just be looking too further. It is possible they had other barter and reward systems alongside any little cash that must have been available. Also, I don't think a prison like that was just an ordinary prison, it must have been probably where the worst of the worst were kept and the wardens had little say. With the way it sounds, my concern is the way casino gaming is attributed to a game played only by or meant for delinquents.
If such a casino however,  was licensed and had the authority to operate in prisons, it might be too extreme and the purpose of rehabilitation would be skewed.

[dothebeats]

This just goes to show that a group of people dedicated to something that they're doing are better compared to governments that enforce rules on things they don't work closely to While there are a lot of angles on where this prison casinos can go wrong, you can't deny the fact that it thrived and almost no incidents happened during the whole 35 years, just because the inmates want fairness in their own little haven. This could surely be a good pastime to them, but can also be a source of rifts between groups of inmates that may cause lots of problems down the line. But if this is closely regulated and the wardens/prison watchers are really trying to help the inmates, I think it could be good for the prisoners to not think of anything other than playing with other inmates and lessen the incidents inside the prison.

[ralle14]

This is funny to me but I think it will be entertaining to keep prisoners out of their deep thoughts and depression, however, I doubt if that will be happening in this century, but my questions are:
How did they fund the casinos and where did they get money to bet in the first place

I'm guessing they were offered a way to earn money since I remember visiting a prison back then with some of my friends and the prisoners are making souvenirs and other products. And some of the people guiding us in the prison mentioned whatever sales they get will be distributed equally and goes to their pockets as a way to help their family outside.

The most memorable betting coin for me.

I agree, when I checked the link I didn't expect for them to have their own betting currency and that shows how determined they were to maintain the casino.

[danherbias07]

Oh that's normal here in the Philippines.
Illegal drugs in prison, gambling, alcohol, prostitution, you name it. All illegal activities are inside the prison and no one will stop them because they are already in prison. It's the guards that actually make profits out of all this commodities inside the prison.

Is it safe? No. You are playing with criminals. They are supposed to be rehabilitated, that is why they are in there. No pleasure, just strict discipline in their everyday life and paying for the crime they did.

[naira]

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.

Over time, the concept of conventional casinos and the people involved in them became much different from the current state of gambling. The level of cheating is rampant and it is clear that the current gambling environment cannot be compared to the current conditions. Imprisoned if someone cheats, the risk of being tortured and not being able to escape is certainly quite threatening. Like it or not, they will play fair.

[virasisog]

Oh that's normal here in the Philippines.
Illegal drugs in prison, gambling, alcohol, prostitution, you name it. All illegal activities are inside the prison and no one will stop them because they are already in prison. It's the guards that actually make profits out of all this commodities inside the prison.

Is it safe? No. You are playing with criminals. They are supposed to be rehabilitated, that is why they are in there. No pleasure, just strict discipline in their everyday life and paying for the crime they did.

We could even see it in Filipino movies. Criminals who are supposed to suffer and pay for their committed crimes are even enjoying their lives inside the prison. They can still continue their vices including illegal drugs and alcohol. They are even having huge gambling events inside involving big personalities. There are also huge and powerful authorities behind it and they are even tolerating and supporting it.
Criminals are supposed to change their lives inside for them to have at least a second chance to live a better life outside but they are even falling for gambling, drugs, and alcohol addiction. The government can't do anything to stop it because there are also officials that are involved in these activities in the name of money.

[Cookdata]

What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates . A similar incidence happened between 1932 and 1967 in Nevada State Prison. Despite not having licence to operate the casino existed for over 35 years and ever since then nothing of this kind has ever occurred.

This is funny to me but I think it will be entertaining to keep prisoners out of their deep thoughts and depression, however, I doubt if that will be happening in this century, but my questions are:
How did they fund the casinos and where did they get money to bet in the first place, not as if all prisoners were once a cartel who do some drugs and could one way or the other smuggle things inside the prisoners.
what were the prisoner's warders doing while all this was going on? If they are aware and this operation happens in prison for 35 years, they should all serve their jail for compromising the prisons because that's a criminal offense, they didn't say much about that on the website.

These prisoners are also humans irrespective of the crimes that may have gotten them in there.  I do believe also that games in these facilities are more for recreational and rehabilitation purposes.
The case of how they get cash for gambling in the prison casino might just be looking too further. It is possible they had other barter and reward systems alongside any little cash that must have been available. Also, I don't think a prison like that was just an ordinary prison, it must have been probably where the worst of the worst were kept and the wardens had little say. With the way it sounds, my concern is the way casino gaming is attributed to a game played only by or meant for delinquents.
If such a casino however,  was licensed and had the authority to operate in prisons, it might be too extreme and the purpose of rehabilitation would be skewed.

I understand your point and I'm a human, I have feelings and sympathy too but do you really think some prisoners deserve to see the sun? If one should judge from the crime that sent them to prison, they would have been castrated from the day they sent them to prison instead of giving them some little entertainment. That wouldn't even happen in today's prisons talk more of allowing a specialized currency but it is possible in corrupt states where warders still smuggle in some s**ting stuff for inmates.

[Solosanz]

For small gambling such as betting on sport events etc, there may still be many operating in prison, because a few years ago my cousin was in prison and told me all of his experiences

Sports betting is just like a PvP games where it doesn't really need a third party or any tools to play, you only need to make an agreement and watch the sports when it's happen. I think sports betting can be found everywhere including an elementary school.

Criminals are supposed to change their lives inside for them to have at least a second chance to live a better life outside but they are even falling for gambling, drugs, and alcohol addiction. The government can't do anything to stop it because there are also officials that are involved in these activities in the name of money.

Depends on the countries, if there's a country allow to gamble, gambling isn't considered as a illegal activity and vice versa. Government can do anything since they have a whole power to control their country, but they want to get money from illegal gambling that's why they just close their eyes.

[maydna]

For small gambling such as betting on sport events etc, there may still be many operating in prison, because a few years ago my cousin was in prison and told me all of his experiences, and even the prison warden is the intermediary. But for big casinos as far as I know that's not, because my country is very strict in gambling, even not just imprisoned at outside of that no one operates legally and has a license.

So we can assume that the stakes in prisons are still going on even though the people change from time to time. Of course, the involvement of the prison warden in dealing with gambling problems is a thing that is expected because it means the prison warden will get additional money to help inmates who gamble. Maybe as far as we know, there are no big casinos in prisons, but we don't know the truth. And if we see that many casinos are run by people who do illegal activities, likely, the casinos in prisons are also run by them.