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September 20, 2022, 10:42:34 PM
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates . A similar incidence happened between 1932 and 1967 in Nevada State Prison. Despite not having licence to operate the casino existed for over 35 years and ever since then nothing of this kind has ever occurred.

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Throughout its 35 years, various wardens either tolerated the casino or considered it a worthwhile distraction for the inmates. This changed in 1967 when a bill in the State Legislature to prohibit prison gaming was defeated in the Senate. Shortly thereafter, the State Prison Board used its authority to close the casino. The sandstone building which housed the casino was demolished.

It is interesting to note that this casino had no licence and wasn't recognised by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self policing system.




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But it's already have been shut down for decades now and no casinos have been running on any prison in the US. And it you look at it, that was the time wherein casinos are controlled by the mob and I would say that they have much influence in the gambling industry in that era that prison warden could have been "bribe" to let prisoners gamble. And who knows, maybe there is a mafia boss incarcerated in that prison and so he just wanted to have some fun inside.  Smiley

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September 20, 2022, 10:51:21 PM
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Was it being run by the same people? Did that incentivise the same gangs to get arrested/rearrested or commit crimes? I imagine it would do.

If you knew someone inside the prison leading a better life than you from the money they have that they could take out of the prison with them, maybe that's reason to commit a crime for when you get released with more money, having not paid for much while inside.

Aside from that if it was more informal and pooled (like poker is) then I don't think there's much wrong with it - but then it probably couldn't be made illegal either without a very specific bill.
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .

Who or what are you referring to that will give a license to operate inside the prison?

Obviously, if these are the license providers we have known today, it's impossible that a license will be given to operating a casino inside the premises of a prison. If you are referring to big bosses in the prison, they can operate gambling operations inside even if it's illegal, of course with the help of big people outside.

Here in our country before, gambling is a normal thing in the biggest prison here that is operated by big fish with the help of politicians. You will never feel that you are inside the prison because of the environment you will see there inside. However, because of some "expose's", that was all changed now.

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September 20, 2022, 11:35:54 PM
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Obviously, if these are the license providers we have known today, it's impossible that a license will be given to operating a casino inside the premises of a prison. If you are referring to big bosses in the prison, they can operate gambling operations inside even if it's illegal, of course with the help of big people outside.
I have no idea what is legal and what is not when it is about casino licensing. If it's a crypto gambling site then it can operate without having any license but they will need to build a good reputation over the years which is not as easy as to have a valid license.

Haven't we seen such gambling idea in Undisputed movie series?

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September 20, 2022, 11:53:45 PM
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .

Who or what are you referring to that will give a license to operate inside the prison?

Obviously, if these are the license providers we have known today, it's impossible that a license will be given to operating a casino inside the premises of a prison. If you are referring to big bosses in the prison, they can operate gambling operations inside even if it's illegal, of course with the help of big people outside.

Here in our country before, gambling is a normal thing in the biggest prison here that is operated by big fish with the help of politicians. You will never feel that you are inside the prison because of the environment you will see there inside. However, because of some "expose's", that was all changed now.
There are places which have things which shouldn't really be there or lets say totally illegal or not really ethical for it to be placed but due to those big bosses on the top and other personalities which do have big

influence and could really put up some money under the table then for sure they would really be letting things to happen.If we do stick into the talks about gambling in prisons then it just some own will and understanding then it is a thing which shouldnt really be allowed.

Where the hell those prisoners money do came from? Also, it would really be still subject for possible contrabands which might be exploited inside prison and everything else.

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September 20, 2022, 11:59:28 PM
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I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?
What do you think, OP?
I only have seen this kind of gambling den in some movies inside the prison although it has something to do with the who's the Boss inside like there's a mafia or something and he's using his power like money to bribe all of the people inside and even on the outside world. I don't know if it does still exist nowadays but what kind of powerful man would do that inside the prison?

I think there's a lot of explaining to the warden if they get caught having a casino inside the prison.

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September 20, 2022, 11:59:44 PM
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I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?

Actually, a lot of prisons have. Not casino per se but some type of gambling businesses.
It is illegal but some people inside can be bought so they just turned their blind eyes on.
Casino inside may attract attention of other government authorities so most of them are operating under the table.
But I believe, some form of gambling activities will always be present inside the prison walls.
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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates . A similar incidence happened between 1932 and 1967 in Nevada State Prison. Despite not having licence to operate the casino existed for over 35 years and ever since then nothing of this kind has ever occurred.


Throughout its 35 years, various wardens either tolerated the casino or considered it a worthwhile distraction for the inmates. This changed in 1967 when a bill in the State Legislature to prohibit prison gaming was defeated in the Senate. Shortly thereafter, the State Prison Board used its authority to close the casino. The sandstone building which housed the casino was demolished.

it was defeated because it's morally corrupt to have a casino in a correctional facility, there are prisoners who were there because they commit a crime out of gambling addiction and now they are feeding, their addiction there is corruption in 35 years of their existence it's just it is hidden or not known because of tight security and thugs ruling the systems



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It is interesting to note that this casino had no license and wasn't recognized by the Nevada gaming authorities but the inmates ensured there was no cheating there by creating a self-policing system.
Of course there's no cheaters there or else they will be beaten up, the prison facility is making money out of these poor inmates they have no resources but their families to send them money.


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September 21, 2022, 01:14:41 AM
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I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?
What do you think, OP?
I only have seen this kind of gambling den in some movies inside the prison although it has something to do with the who's the Boss inside like there's a mafia or something and he's using his power like money to bribe all of the people inside and even on the outside world. I don't know if it does still exist nowadays but what kind of powerful man would do that inside the prison?

I think there's a lot of explaining to the warden if they get caught having a casino inside the prison.

If today there are still casinos in penitentiaries, riots are going to be the biggest problem. Slots handle will probably be taken and sharpened.

The industry is regulated already, there ain't no way for wardens to decide on thier own what they could do under thier jurisdiction. Governments had created a lot of regulatory bodies that will pin every freedom a felon has.


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September 21, 2022, 01:15:00 AM
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I'm curious too though, what if prisons have casino inside?
What do you think, OP?
I only have seen this kind of gambling den in some movies inside the prison although it has something to do with the who's the Boss inside like there's a mafia or something and he's using his power like money to bribe all of the people inside and even on the outside world. I don't know if it does still exist nowadays but what kind of powerful man would do that inside the prison?

I think there's a lot of explaining to the warden if they get caught having a casino inside the prison.

That time? those early warders think that prisoners have something to do with their time and they will be out of trouble. But it you look at today's standard everything is wrong with that decision. Those inmates need rehabilitation and not that past time of gambling inside.

Anyhow, it's good that when the next warden steps up, he completely took control. And then when laws enacted regarding legitimizing gambling, prisons are not one establishment included.

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September 21, 2022, 01:27:48 AM
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even without licenses yet Gambling is indeed happening in prisons . because most of them are literally gambler or want to extend their vices and enjoyment in any form.

so since they are already inside the prison and if the government will earn taxes and funds from those? then why not? I think it is tolerable already from their end and the wardens .

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even without licenses yet Gambling is indeed happening in prisons . because most of them are literally gambler or want to extend their vices and enjoyment in any form.

People in jail can use card games for entertainment, and is known they use them to bet things like food, snacks, drugs or cigarettes because they don't really have much access to cash.

But the concept of a gambling license on a Jail is crazy, my first question is; Who will provide the bank roll? and the second question is; If a guy wins big, will that bring him big problems or even will risk his life?

The fun part is that some people are in Jail for cheating on the casino, and if they got a casino in the jail that would be like nonsense for them.

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September 21, 2022, 01:54:21 AM
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Obviously, if these are the license providers we have known today, it's impossible that a license will be given to operating a casino inside the premises of a prison. If you are referring to big bosses in the prison, they can operate gambling operations inside even if it's illegal, of course with the help of big people outside.
I have no idea what is legal and what is not when it is about casino licensing. If it's a crypto gambling site then it can operate without having any license but they will need to build a good reputation over the years which is not as easy as to have a valid license.

Still borderline case, so it's hard to know how it can be legal to have casinos inside the prison. And it jut says the sheriff has the authority that time and maybe with the collusion with the jail warden, they allow it to prosper for years.

Mafia bosses might be a different story in prison though, we've seen and heard that even inside, they have total control of everything from inside the prison to outside.

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Gambling is banned in prisons, but that doesn't stop people from making it out of soap or toilet paper, and in my friend's experience lots of people shoot dice with dice sets made of whatever material they have that can be shaped into cubes.
And not only that because there are many ways they can do it including doing it using a cell phone, remembering what happened in the past will not be lost in the present or in the future. And there are many ways to do it even though it is strictly prohibited, but gambling in prison is very prone to fights and even murder because of debt cases. And even more sadistically, gamblers have to be prepared for the consequences of having your ass stabbed with a long, blunt object for not paying or cheating. Cry

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I've had opportunities to visit someone in prison in the past and I saw that many inmates were gambling. I'm a hundred percent sure that gambling is very much rampant inside jails, at least in my country. For one, it's a very good way to counter boredom. Inmates usually lack activities inside. But since playing cards, coins, chess or checker boards, and others aren't prohibited inside, they could easily be used for gambling.

But for a jail to operate a casino, I don't think it's a wise idea. It would only create violence.

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Gambling will continue to happen everywhere, independent if it's banned or not.

That's pretty much how humans work.

It doesn't matter if people are in a prison, they will still find a way to gamble.

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What if prisons were given license to operate a casino will it be safe for inmates .

I don't think it's the most ideal thing to do, and I also think that some prisons have too many amenities. Although prisoners will usually find ways to gamble with each other, it is best that gambling remains banned. Granting a casino license would be pathetic. While they're at it, they could open a hard drug dispensary with a counter where prisoners can buy cocaine, fentanyl, etc.

Prisoners are serving a sentence, and part of the punishment has to be aimed at reintegrating them, but I don't see how allowing licensed gambling would help either one or the other.

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Gambling will continue to happen everywhere, independent if it's banned or not.

That's pretty much how humans work.

It doesn't matter if people are in a prison, they will still find a way to gamble.

happens in school too. there are lots of gambling activity when i was just in gradeschool were we just guess the year when a coin was made. its kind of a guessing game only where we just bet how much in peso and then pick a year when it was minted. this might not be played anymore.
in prison there are so much to gamble as they can watch bastketball games on TV. they can even play BINGO game.

but becoming a real casino is a different story.









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September 21, 2022, 03:41:45 AM
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But for a jail to operate a casino, I don't think it's a wise idea. It would only create violence.
Unless the Warden will be the Banker? or to operate the casino? Joke lol .


local gambling may be rampant in Jails/prisons but to put a casino? I'm afraid this will bring more troubles in prisoners part because this will be a big deal for money.

So i am not sure if this will be a good idea to set up?

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