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September 21, 2022, 10:34:35 PM
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What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?


It's bad for Twitch because there is a huge market for streamers now that market will have to go to other platforms, we cannot blame them they need to establish their reputation, they are a fresh platform in video sharing sites and they need to be up to standard as what stated on their license, but they should just be more strict because there are good streamers and bad streamers, one example is abusing their followers you don't pm your followers to ask money it's ok to put donation but never ask them for money.

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September 21, 2022, 10:39:18 PM
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That controversy that got some streamer, they've put it into this decision but that doesn't stop them the whole gambling thing being streamed on their platform.

There are still allowed contents to be done by these streamers but mainly, if they're from those banned games then they'll just have to make themselves free and open to the allowed ones.

A certain profit would be gone out for those streamers that are mainly streaming with certain games from those casinos. We know that not all casinos have sports betting and many are just focused with roulettes, dice and slots.

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September 21, 2022, 10:42:50 PM
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
Cancel culture is prevalent in today's society so probably yes. Policy changes in other social media platforms already happened so Twitch don't really have much of a choice but to follow what majority or some of their users wants before the case escalates further. It's bad business if they insist or if they do nothing about it.

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September 21, 2022, 10:50:50 PM
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?


It's obviously the biggest impact on Twitch that they have decided to ban gambling streaming for good. It has been a hotly contested topic because it is not clear on their ToS regarding gambling. But it's good to hear that they have come up with this one. For sure they will definitely lost millions in revenue and so is the gamblers taking advantage of their platform.

Sooner or later though this influencers will have to find another platform, used to their advantage and make money again. Gambling is a multi billion business and I doubt that it can be stop. Specially the crypto gambling platforms are on the rise. So this is a temporary setback to all gambling influencers.

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September 21, 2022, 10:59:18 PM
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What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?


It's bad for Twitch because there is a huge market for streamers now that market will have to go to other platforms, we cannot blame them they need to establish their reputation, they are a fresh platform in video sharing sites and they need to be up to standard as what stated on their license, but they should just be more strict because there are good streamers and bad streamers, one example is abusing their followers you don't pm your followers to ask money it's ok to put donation but never ask them for money.
It would be not a huge loss actually considering that Twitch isnt only making money on these gambling streamers but there are still some which is excluded into this one.Yes, it might give out some % impact but wont

really be that badly be affected on coming into a point that they would really be getting huge decrease in terms of that.It is true that there's a good reputation which is needed to be sustained and maintained which
if ever there are complaints or problems which is really included or stated on their terms and conditions then it would be normal that they would really be doing such decision.

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September 21, 2022, 11:09:16 PM
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They cannot handle the pressure this is a big decision that will have an impact on the share of the market among streaming platforms, gambling streamers will have Youtube for now, but it's only gambling streaming that is banned, they overlooked the contribution of streamers and their followers on their platform and instead opted to take drastic action on the complaints I hope streamers will comply and behave on other streaming platforms, they have revenues to protect and they have followers to feed with their live streams.


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September 21, 2022, 11:32:55 PM
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That is going to hurt a lot of people as some were making real good money on Twitch. I am thinking of popular streamers as Xposed, Ayezee, Foss, ... They also stream on Youtube but the go platform has always been Twitch.

Twitch was also making money through them. More traffic, more donations, more bits bought and so on...

They're cutting their own revenue for nothing because it's not like they're against gambling since they're allowing other forms of gambling like sport bets and people are just going to move somewhere else.

It's not going to stop gamblers and it's not going to stop streamers. Pretty pointless if you ask me.

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September 22, 2022, 12:29:59 AM
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I think Twitch is starting some kind of weird crusade against gambling websites, but I was never really a fun of twitch anyway so I don't care about this.
There are probably alternatives for Twitch maybe even blockchain based, but gambling websites could be affected by this cutting of promotional stream.
Maybe DLive could be alternative for Twitch, it's blockchain based and used by gamers and gamblers, I think I saw Stake giveaways there.
https://dlive.tv/
Stake is trying to buy Dlive from what I heard Eddie say on his weekend stream. If that happens, then Stake streamers will have a home. I wonder if they will allow competitors to stream as well? Buying the platform would be 1 way to monopolize the market, at least on that particular platform.

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September 22, 2022, 12:56:02 AM
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It's not going to stop gamblers and it's not going to stop streamers. Pretty pointless if you ask me.
I don't see it's about banning gambling streamers but it about going against crypto casinos. Obviously platform like Google and other giants (I guess Twitch is only a small one so far) don't want crypto to have establishment of crypto over their government controlled fiat currency.

Most of the time it's the pressure from government agencies and these companies are just saving their business so that they can survive.

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September 22, 2022, 12:56:43 AM
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I think Twitch is starting some kind of weird crusade against gambling websites, but I was never really a fun of twitch anyway so I don't care about this.
There are probably alternatives for Twitch maybe even blockchain based, but gambling websites could be affected by this cutting of promotional stream.
Maybe DLive could be alternative for Twitch, it's blockchain based and used by gamers and gamblers, I think I saw Stake giveaways there.
https://dlive.tv/
Stake is trying to buy Dlive from what I heard Eddie say on his weekend stream. If that happens, then Stake streamers will have a home. I wonder if they will allow competitors to stream as well? Buying the platform would be 1 way to monopolize the market, at least on that particular platform.

Definitely one good reason for Stake to dive into. If they can't just be advertised on one platform because ban, it's time for them to also have thier own and not going to be banning itself. Dlive is not very popular to regular internet users, however.  This will make probably make them advertise Dlive as well not just the casino.

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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I think Twitch is starting some kind of weird crusade against gambling websites, but I was never really a fun of twitch anyway so I don't care about this.
There are probably alternatives for Twitch maybe even blockchain based, but gambling websites could be affected by this cutting of promotional stream.
Maybe DLive could be alternative for Twitch, it's blockchain based and used by gamers and gamblers, I think I saw Stake giveaways there.
https://dlive.tv/
Stake is trying to buy Dlive from what I heard Eddie say on his weekend stream. If that happens, then Stake streamers will have a home. I wonder if they will allow competitors to stream as well? Buying the platform would be 1 way to monopolize the market, at least on that particular platform.

Definitely one good reason for Stake to dive into. If they can't just be advertised on one platform because ban, it's time for them to also have thier own and not going to be banning itself. Dlive is not very popular to regular internet users, however.  This will make probably make them advertise Dlive as well not just the casino.

Amazing how influencers today can affect CEO's decision.

What do these influencers expect to gain by getting rid of the gambling content on twitch? That the thousands of users whom can no  longer watch streams about gambling will flock back to their streams and buy subs? I seriously doubt that that happens. These users will follow the streamers they were watching to the new platforms they decide to stream on. From the streamers I watch, youtube seems to be the most popular in the discussion. From what I understand, you have some rules to follow on youtbe, but as long as you abide by their rules you will be good to go. Hard to say if Youtube examines their ToS if they see a large influx of gambling streamers on the platform.

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September 22, 2022, 01:21:46 AM
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Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
I think Twitch is starting some kind of weird crusade against gambling websites, but I was never really a fun of twitch anyway so I don't care about this.
There are probably alternatives for Twitch maybe even blockchain based, but gambling websites could be affected by this cutting of promotional stream.
Maybe DLive could be alternative for Twitch, it's blockchain based and used by gamers and gamblers, I think I saw Stake giveaways there.
https://dlive.tv/
Stake is trying to buy Dlive from what I heard Eddie say on his weekend stream. If that happens, then Stake streamers will have a home. I wonder if they will allow competitors to stream as well? Buying the platform would be 1 way to monopolize the market, at least on that particular platform.

Definitely one good reason for Stake to dive into. If they can't just be advertised on one platform because ban, it's time for them to also have thier own and not going to be banning itself. Dlive is not very popular to regular internet users, however.  This will make probably make them advertise Dlive as well not just the casino.

Amazing how influencers today can affect CEO's decision.

What do these influencers expect to gain by getting rid of the gambling content on twitch? That the thousands of users whom can no  longer watch streams about gambling will flock back to their streams and buy subs? I seriously doubt that that happens. These users will follow the streamers they were watching to the new platforms they decide to stream on. From the streamers I watch, youtube seems to be the most popular in the discussion. From what I understand, you have some rules to follow on youtbe, but as long as you abide by their rules you will be good to go. Hard to say if Youtube examines their ToS if they see a large influx of gambling streamers on the platform.

Yup they are also going to move to Dlive. Seem a pushover CEO. The decision will result in Twitch losing users instead at the early stage of the competition.  There are many platforms to move to which they have not considered before making this ban. Youtube had removed some videos actually but they didn't ban those gambling streamers promoting casinos. If the streamers kept repeating violations probably.

But why just these Bitcoin casinos? Not a single fiat base casino was mantioned.



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It's not going to stop gamblers and it's not going to stop streamers. Pretty pointless if you ask me.
I don't see it's about banning gambling streamers but it about going against crypto casinos. Obviously platform like Google and other giants (I guess Twitch is only a small one so far) don't want crypto to have establishment of crypto over their government controlled fiat currency.

Most of the time it's the pressure from government agencies and these companies are just saving their business so that they can survive.
We guess that the government receives complaints from many people who do not want to see some family ruins because of playing gambling without responsibility.
But as @coolcoinz said, that will not stop gamblers and streamers from creating content about gambling because many other sources can still accommodate it.
It is like a war between the good and the evil because the government wants to protect their people from the danger of playing gambling Grin
But whether they will play gambling will depend on how they can be responsible for what they do so they do not get a bad impact from gambling.

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In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.


it is their rights if they think that the platform had been abused and the blame is taking in their part as they are allowing those scammers and abusers using their platform , this also proves that twitch is there to listen and willing to do anything to hold the reputation of their Site in which made me salute them , imagine if all the businesses only will take this same action? it will lessen the chance of scammers abusing other people.

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They cannot handle the pressure this is a big decision that will have an impact on the share of the market among streaming platforms, gambling streamers will have Youtube for now, but it's only gambling streaming that is banned, they overlooked the contribution of streamers and their followers on their platform and instead opted to take drastic action on the complaints I hope streamers will comply and behave on other streaming platforms, they have revenues to protect and they have followers to feed with their live streams.
But this is what they must do if they will retain their reputation because I believe that their site had been abused by streamers that supports scam gambling site.
though this is not only happening in Gambling business instead in all ways that to cheat people.
It's not going to stop gamblers and it's not going to stop streamers. Pretty pointless if you ask me.
I don't see it's about banning gambling streamers but it about going against crypto casinos. Obviously platform like Google and other giants (I guess Twitch is only a small one so far) don't want crypto to have establishment of crypto over their government controlled fiat currency.

Most of the time it's the pressure from government agencies and these companies are just saving their business so that they can survive.
We guess that the government receives complaints from many people who do not want to see some family ruins because of playing gambling without responsibility.
But as @coolcoinz said, that will not stop gamblers and streamers from creating content about gambling because many other sources can still accommodate it.
It is like a war between the good and the evil because the government wants to protect their people from the danger of playing gambling Grin
But whether they will play gambling will depend on how they can be responsible for what they do so they do not get a bad impact from gambling.
they will always find home to cheat , but the good thing here is that twitch now proven that they can do action to refuse the use of each platform for cheating.

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Pretty big.

I think there is a trend whereby more and more gambling ads are going to be banned around the world. In this particular case, the consequence may be that banned streamers may look for other means to continue working, but being online gambling addiction one of the fastest growing addictions and serious problems nowadays, I believe that regulations will tend to prohibit advertising it.

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is this just a beginning of the movement against gambling online from those scammers and cheaters action towards the community ? there are too much abusing and too much happening for years now and Twitch just act for the betterment?
who will follow and what will be the effect in gambling businesses? this are the main concern that I think need to be addressed.









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That is going to hurt a lot of people as some were making real good money on Twitch. I am thinking of popular streamers as Xposed, Ayezee, Foss, ... They also stream on Youtube but the go platform has always been Twitch.
Yeah it could be problem for them as they were sponsored gamblers from different casinos to stream and attract more customers to their site giving away promo codes as well but I think they will find some more decentralised platforms where they can stream gambling without any difficulty as Twitch wouldn't support them due to their reasoning of this ban.

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So, we have seen what happens when large social media platforms ban something....

A lot of alternative sites will step in to fill the void that those bans created and they will grow as strong opposition to those social media giants. We already saw how the co-owner of Stake.com (Eddie) got banned on Twitch and he simply moved to DLive.tv and now he has almost 14 000+ people watching his streaming sessions.

Eddie even said, Stake.com might consider buying DLive.tv and that they will develop it into something huge!  Wink

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So, we have seen what happens when large social media platforms ban something....

A lot of alternative sites will step in to fill the void that those bans created and they will grow as strong opposition to those social media giants. We already saw how the co-owner of Stake.com (Eddie) got banned on Twitch and he simply moved to DLive.tv and now he has almost 14 000+ people watching his streaming sessions.

Eddie even said, Stake.com might consider buying DLive.tv and that they will develop it into something huge!  Wink

As I see it this is not a full ban, they are aiming just for casinos "that arent' licensed either in the US or other jurisdictions that provide sufficient consumer protection". I guess some crypto casinos started drawing some serious attention and they decided to hold them like this, but as you say there are alternatives that will come to light... I didn't see that DLive.tv yet, I will check it for sure to see how it looks, but I guess there are more similar popping out around.

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