Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th.

[Silberman]

I agree that when we are talking about these type of deals, it would be quite difficult to handle, and I believe that we shouldn't really end up with trying to recover and get back to what it was, doesn't mean that it’s not possible I agree that it could be, but unlikely and that’s why we shouldn't look for it.

Let’s assume that gambling streaming world is over now, doesn't mean it’s over but it’s on the way there and I feel like we shouldn't be focusing on anything that would hurt us in the long run if we assume as such, it would be a happy situation if it’s not, and expected if it is. Other side is expecting it to survive and if it does than expected, and if not then be upset.

Without a doubt this is a move against gambling streamers but if there is demand then someone is going to supply people what they want to see, so it would not surprise me if other competitors sites decided to not follow the same policies and gain a lot of new viewers this way, so while this is a move that we knew that it will eventually come at the same time I do not think it is going to be so bad, as people will always find another way to satisfy the need they have of watching other people gamble.

[Fortify]

Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.
In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

There are so many streamers on Twitch and gambling ones are a relatively small number, they have absolutely no ability to change the direction of Twitch. They probably did manage to water down the proposal, since Twitch will still be allowing things like sports betting and skill based games like poker. Heck, they'll probably even continue to allow certain casino games as long as they are on properly licensed sites in jurisdictions like the US and UK. There is big money in this sector and through different avenues they will be taking a certain cut from it, so their plan is to trim it down to a lower level and cut off some of the crypto sites to make it look like they're taking action.

[danadc]

Though my only comment here is that, opening crates FROM games is still considered gambling. I wonder how Twitch will respond and view this specific scenario especially that these loot boxes are from these famous games as well (e.g. CSGO boxes, etc.).

I have to agree with you there. Whether you end up streaming slots or spending hours opening booster packs in the new FIFA 2023 makes absolutely no difference.

It's the same with CS-GO lootboxes, of course, which are opened by various streamers on a daily basis.

In the end all of this falls under the category of gambling. I'm pretty curious at what point Twitch draws its line. And whether we will see more bans in the future. Although I can hardly imagine that game content from FIFA or CS:GO will be banned on the platform in the future. The communities are way (!) too big.

There are people that I have seen here in the forum who are very much in agreement with these prohibitions, and I understand that they are people who do not like games of chance, that shows, but I think that this world is to accept and tolerate, it is for such reason that I don't see the bans as necessary, it all started with the live broadcasts of a person who asked for money to play, and that was enough to ban casino envoys, if they go that way it's obvious that they will ban when they play CSGO, FIFA, And anything that has to do with gaming, that's like banning players on Discord. I thought that on Twitch they lived on sponsorships, and there is no better sponsor than a casino.

[Lanatsa]

Though my only comment here is that, opening crates FROM games is still considered gambling. I wonder how Twitch will respond and view this specific scenario especially that these loot boxes are from these famous games as well (e.g. CSGO boxes, etc.).

I have to agree with you there. Whether you end up streaming slots or spending hours opening booster packs in the new FIFA 2023 makes absolutely no difference.

It's the same with CS-GO lootboxes, of course, which are opened by various streamers on a daily basis.

In the end all of this falls under the category of gambling. I'm pretty curious at what point Twitch draws its line. And whether we will see more bans in the future. Although I can hardly imagine that game content from FIFA or CS:GO will be banned on the platform in the future. The communities are way (!) too big.

There are people that I have seen here in the forum who are very much in agreement with these prohibitions, and I understand that they are people who do not like games of chance, that shows, but I think that this world is to accept and tolerate, it is for such reason that I don't see the bans as necessary, it all started with the live broadcasts of a person who asked for money to play, and that was enough to ban casino envoys, if they go that way it's obvious that they will ban when they play CSGO, FIFA, And anything that has to do with gaming, that's like banning players on Discord. I thought that on Twitch they lived on sponsorships, and there is no better sponsor than a casino.

They hadnt ban out on global scale but rather there are still ones who could stream out but of course it would be only into those casinos which does have US licensed and the rest or offshore then its totally
prohibited.Its their company then its their choice and there's no such thing we could do about into their decisions.
Sometimes having this huge scale decision when it comes to ban and prohibition, it is sometimes that really too exaggerated or too muc which a single violation had been committed out by
a single person due into its wrong doings which it resulted or ended up like this.
Some say that it is too much and some say that it is really just right on having or ending up that kind of decision.

[Silberman]

Though my only comment here is that, opening crates FROM games is still considered gambling. I wonder how Twitch will respond and view this specific scenario especially that these loot boxes are from these famous games as well (e.g. CSGO boxes, etc.).

I have to agree with you there. Whether you end up streaming slots or spending hours opening booster packs in the new FIFA 2023 makes absolutely no difference.

It's the same with CS-GO lootboxes, of course, which are opened by various streamers on a daily basis.

In the end all of this falls under the category of gambling. I'm pretty curious at what point Twitch draws its line. And whether we will see more bans in the future. Although I can hardly imagine that game content from FIFA or CS:GO will be banned on the platform in the future. The communities are way (!) too big.

There are people that I have seen here in the forum who are very much in agreement with these prohibitions, and I understand that they are people who do not like games of chance, that shows, but I think that this world is to accept and tolerate, it is for such reason that I don't see the bans as necessary, it all started with the live broadcasts of a person who asked for money to play, and that was enough to ban casino envoys, if they go that way it's obvious that they will ban when they play CSGO, FIFA, And anything that has to do with gaming, that's like banning players on Discord. I thought that on Twitch they lived on sponsorships, and there is no better sponsor than a casino.

Taking into account how the prohibition mostly affects cryptocurrency casinos, while the casinos that are licensed on the United States can still operate on this platform then it becomes very obvious to me that this sudden change in their policies has more to do with the government pressuring Twitch to forbid the promotion of cryptocurrency casinos, and that most likely they resisted against this move for some time but they were simply unable to take the pressure anymore and at the end they had to relent.

[worle1bm]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

There maybe some other options available to them for steaming but twitch was most popular platform for them and huge audience as well to support them and now moving to different platforms will be little problem for them to gain new users from scratch and casino partnership again.But there are some twitch alternative so will see if they move to it or what's their move.

[worldofcoins]

I agree that when we are talking about these type of deals, it would be quite difficult to handle, and I believe that we shouldn't really end up with trying to recover and get back to what it was, doesn't mean that it’s not possible I agree that it could be, but unlikely and that’s why we shouldn't look for it.

Let’s assume that gambling streaming world is over now, doesn't mean it’s over but it’s on the way there and I feel like we shouldn't be focusing on anything that would hurt us in the long run if we assume as such, it would be a happy situation if it’s not, and expected if it is. Other side is expecting it to survive and if it does than expected, and if not then be upset.

Without a doubt this is a move against gambling streamers but if there is demand then someone is going to supply people what they want to see, so it would not surprise me if other competitors sites decided to not follow the same policies and gain a lot of new viewers this way, so while this is a move that we knew that it will eventually come at the same time I do not think it is going to be so bad, as people will always find another way to satisfy the need they have of watching other people gamble.

The majority of twitch's community involves children and even if gamblers say 18+ there's no guarantee that children won't access it though another account if there are restrictions on the current account to watch their favorite streamer.

[abel1337]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

There maybe some other options available to them for steaming but twitch was most popular platform for them and huge audience as well to support them and now moving to different platforms will be little problem for them to gain new users from scratch and casino partnership again.But there are some twitch alternative so will see if they move to it or what's their move.

It's true but if their audience wants to watch their favorite gambling streamer, I think they will move to that certain platform. Maybe one day one streaming platform will be famous having a casino streams or a platform that is solely made for gambling streaming. Dlive can be that potential platform especially if Stake is positive on their dlive decision. I don't see gambling streaming on youtube and facebook will run long because they are heavily censoring contents especially gambling which is r18 content.

[iv4n]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

Looks like DLive is the next big thing in the gambling world, as the 18th of October approaches, I see more and more people talking about DLive. I am not so big fan of streamers, especially the ones who gamble with crazy high amounts, I believe it's rigged, most likely they are playing for the house, so it's just some kind of marketing... I am not sure if will I register there and follow all that, probably not! That's probably a good question, how many people from here tried DLive already? And for others who didn't will they?

[AmoreJaz]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

Looks like DLive is the next big thing in the gambling world, as the 18th of October approaches, I see more and more people talking about DLive. I am not so big fan of streamers, especially the ones who gamble with crazy high amounts, I believe it's rigged, most likely they are playing for the house, so it's just some kind of marketing... I am not sure if will I register there and follow all that, probably not! That's probably a good question, how many people from here tried DLive already? And for others who didn't will they?

if one door closes, another will open, so to speak. so if twitch will ban gambling streaming, there will always be another platform that will accommodate these streamers. and one is the DLive. it may not be popular today, but give it a time, and soon they will be racking up with streamers also. that's the beauty of business, if one door closes, there will be more windows that will open to these people. this is not the end of the streaming world for gamblers.

[lienfaye]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

Looks like DLive is the next big thing in the gambling world, as the 18th of October approaches, I see more and more people talking about DLive. I am not so big fan of streamers, especially the ones who gamble with crazy high amounts, I believe it's rigged, most likely they are playing for the house, so it's just some kind of marketing... I am not sure if will I register there and follow all that, probably not! That's probably a good question, how many people from here tried DLive already? And for others who didn't will they?

if one door closes, another will open, so to speak. so if twitch will ban gambling streaming, there will always be another platform that will accommodate these streamers. and one is the DLive. it may not be popular today, but give it a time, and soon they will be racking up with streamers also. that's the beauty of business, if one door closes, there will be more windows that will open to these people. this is not the end of the streaming world for gamblers.

That's true. These streamers will look for other platform to continue what they used to and probably DLive is the next to accomodate these streamers. They will start from scratch again but I think it will not be hard compared if you're a beginner since you somehow established yourself to your viewers. Anyway, just want to clarify if the casino has a US licensed, does this mean it's still allowed to stream slots,dice etc.?

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Why not ? I personally think that banning gambling streams is the right decision.
Besides that, what good does it do by allowing influencers to continue streaming gambling activities anyway ?

Bro, it's a shame if you feel it's the right decision when the casino you use as a signature is also prohibited from streaming. Related to the use of influencers is to develop the casino into a fast promotion path and have more influence over the casino. Without influencers as promoters, there probably wouldn't be a famous casino today. As influencers are now competing for a special share, moreover the casinos provide great incentives.

Almost all have a bright spot, Drake will be negotiating this issue and Dlive is one of the solutions we are now hearing about. If Dlive can provide space and has agreed on what will be discussed later regarding streaming gambling, all gambling casinos especially crypto gambling can put it to good use. Twitch can no longer be negotiated if without a US license they still refuse.

-   According to my understanding of the article, it seems that the influencer has a shortcoming in how he did it using the twitch platform. Maybe when the Twitch management saw and watched the influencer who live streamed here violated the rules and policy.

Sometimes it's just money that is the reason why influencers Livestream even if it violates the rules and protocol of the platform, something that maybe the influencers didn't even notice. I'm just not sure if I understood it correctly.

[ethereumhunter]

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

Looks like DLive is the next big thing in the gambling world, as the 18th of October approaches, I see more and more people talking about DLive. I am not so big fan of streamers, especially the ones who gamble with crazy high amounts, I believe it's rigged, most likely they are playing for the house, so it's just some kind of marketing... I am not sure if will I register there and follow all that, probably not! That's probably a good question, how many people from here tried DLive already? And for others who didn't will they?

if one door closes, another will open, so to speak. so if twitch will ban gambling streaming, there will always be another platform that will accommodate these streamers. and one is the DLive. it may not be popular today, but give it a time, and soon they will be racking up with streamers also. that's the beauty of business, if one door closes, there will be more windows that will open to these people. this is not the end of the streaming world for gamblers.

That's true. These streamers will look for other platform to continue what they used to and probably DLive is the next to accomodate these streamers. They will start from scratch again but I think it will not be hard compared if you're a beginner since you somehow established yourself to your viewers. Anyway, just want to clarify if the casino has a US licensed, does this mean it's still allowed to stream slots,dice etc.?

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

[I794]

Hate all fake money streamers, eg ROshten and other company, they will never uderstood even close what real players feeling loosing their last money and when u dont even known how to buy food and pay the rent

[LUCKMCFLY]

Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.
In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

They want to be above standard and they want to be competitive because of streaming, Twitch.tv has become popular among other niche streamers they attained popularity and this is what makes them competitive but they want their reputation among its users clean, they are enjoying popularity since they launched in 2009 and they don't want their platform to get harm with these criticisms, anyway these gambling streamers can transfer to other platforms I'm sure their followers will follow them on other platforms.

They simply don't want to be involved in a legal scuffle against those who are voicing out their opinions on the prevalence of gambling streamers in the said platform. It would be a long and winding battle and I'm pretty sure Twitch just chose the easy way out. If there aren't any opinions that are against the gambling streams, I'm sure that Twitch wouldn't decide to go after these gambling streamers. Even though they can take it to the court, it's just a long and winding process that they need to undertake, and that time is better spent somewhere else.

I really don't know what Twitch will look for, if the first time I knew that platform was thanks to Stake.com with Ed's live presentations, and many more, then this is something that makes me very sad, I don't know under what circumstances they came to it, but they must have been complaints, I don't know maybe envy or something, fortunately there are other platforms that offer the same service as Twitch, so it's not that this platform is essential, but it's a shame, many of us were very familiar, sometimes a site instead of going up and coming up, what it does is go back, sometimes this is something I don't understand, but hey, when one door closes, two open.

Not surprised tbh, it was expected a year ago but for obvious reasons, they delayed the gambling ban and the team has announced it a few weeks ago on social media. They specifically mentioned crypto gambling websites because of the popularity in recent years, dunno Train or Roshtain will continue their streaming career on alternative stream platforms or will stop streaming slots. Maybe DLive will be the next station for most of the gambling streams after Stake's decision.

Looks like DLive is the next big thing in the gambling world, as the 18th of October approaches, I see more and more people talking about DLive. I am not so big fan of streamers, especially the ones who gamble with crazy high amounts, I believe it's rigged, most likely they are playing for the house, so it's just some kind of marketing... I am not sure if will I register there and follow all that, probably not! That's probably a good question, how many people from here tried DLive already? And for others who didn't will they?

if one door closes, another will open, so to speak. so if twitch will ban gambling streaming, there will always be another platform that will accommodate these streamers. and one is the DLive. it may not be popular today, but give it a time, and soon they will be racking up with streamers also. that's the beauty of business, if one door closes, there will be more windows that will open to these people. this is not the end of the streaming world for gamblers.

That's true. These streamers will look for other platform to continue what they used to and probably DLive is the next to accomodate these streamers. They will start from scratch again but I think it will not be hard compared if you're a beginner since you somehow established yourself to your viewers. Anyway, just want to clarify if the casino has a US licensed, does this mean it's still allowed to stream slots,dice etc.?

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

It is that that is what I have been talking about, a platform will come that will produce the pertinent changes that does the same as Twitch and allows everything related to streamers, when it comes to crypto casinos it is something very different, because there are many freedoms With respect to a traditional and physical casino, in a crypto casino everything is more bearable, the money is more instantaneous and its transactions are fast, this allows them to establish more facilities for people to access, at least a crypto casino does not prohibit entry to people, only 18-year-olds, but if he is a potential player they are not going to close the doors on him, that is a great advantage.

[makishart]

I agree that when we are talking about these type of deals, it would be quite difficult to handle, and I believe that we shouldn't really end up with trying to recover and get back to what it was, doesn't mean that it’s not possible I agree that it could be, but unlikely and that’s why we shouldn't look for it.

Let’s assume that gambling streaming world is over now, doesn't mean it’s over but it’s on the way there and I feel like we shouldn't be focusing on anything that would hurt us in the long run if we assume as such, it would be a happy situation if it’s not, and expected if it is. Other side is expecting it to survive and if it does than expected, and if not then be upset.

Without a doubt this is a move against gambling streamers but if there is demand then someone is going to supply people what they want to see, so it would not surprise me if other competitors sites decided to not follow the same policies and gain a lot of new viewers this way, so while this is a move that we knew that it will eventually come at the same time I do not think it is going to be so bad, as people will always find another way to satisfy the need they have of watching other people gamble.

The majority of twitch's community involves children and even if gamblers say 18+ there's no guarantee that children won't access it though another account if there are restrictions on the current account to watch their favorite streamer.

I do know what you meant and i think that in this case age restriction must be implemented. I know this will not be so effective to prevent them to watch the gambling streamers but in my opinion this far better rather than banning whole of streamers.
at least twitch was still allowing some rather than banning all of things related with gambling. It seems like the growth of gambling streamers have been making twitch to pay more attention to it.
I consider watching gambling streamers for entertain purpose only

Hate all fake money streamers, eg ROshten and other company, they will never uderstood even close what real players feeling loosing their last money and when u dont even known how to buy food and pay the rent

Better to see that as entertain purpose. I can't deny many of them were using balance that already filled by the sites

[malcovi2]

Taking into account how the prohibition mostly affects cryptocurrency casinos, while the casinos that are licensed on the United States can still operate on this platform then it becomes very obvious to me that this sudden change in their policies has more to do with the government pressuring Twitch to forbid the promotion of cryptocurrency casinos, and that most likely they resisted against this move for some time but they were simply unable to take the pressure anymore and at the end they had to relent.

This wasn't about government pressuring Twitch to forbid on promoting crypto casinos, This was about Sliker who was a twitch streamer scamming multiple people for years there are proof of him begging money to other streamers and his own fans.
People assumed that it was used to feed his gambling addiction and this story blew up helping  big streamers who are against gambling streams to use it to pressure Twitch to ban gambling on the platform
*He already confessed it was about gambling and the total value he got is $300k+

Coffeezilla did a review about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnTsIO65oo

[FanEagle]

This wasn't about government pressuring Twitch to forbid on promoting crypto casinos, This was about Sliker who was a twitch streamer scamming multiple people for years there are proof of him begging money to other streamers and his own fans.
People assumed that it was used to feed his gambling addiction and this story blew up helping  big streamers who are against gambling streams to use it to pressure Twitch to ban gambling on the platform
*He already confessed it was about gambling and the total value he got is $300k+

Coffeezilla did a review about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnTsIO65oo

I would say that it’s still a good reason to ban gambling though. If there are scammers in one category more than the other, and if there are twitch streamers pressuring twitch, then they had no other way of going around it and had to ban it. This basically makes sure that people are not getting scammed by others, and that’s important, if you are not getting scammed then it’s going to be a simple thing to just focus on the gaming or even chatting part of things.

I would also like to point out that twitch was just a pure gaming platform where you played games and people flock to you because they liked your community, it could change a bit, but not this much. Gambling is way over the line.

[South Park]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

[Porfirii]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

Well, they can find another platform, but I don't think they will find in the short term a platform like Twitch. For certain content, and gambling streaming is that kind of content, this is the place to go: there are others platforms, but I wouldn't say they can compete with Twitch (it is like talking about Youtube a few years ago: if you were banned there you were totally f***ed, until alternatives got the required traction).

On the other hand, while they will avoid regulatory risks, they can eventually lose their dominant position in this field, if competitors welcome the migrant streamers with more relaxed conditions. So this is a double-edged weapon to me.