Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th.

[stomachgrowls]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

Well, they can find another platform, but I don't think they will find in the short term a platform like Twitch. For certain content, and gambling streaming is that kind of content, this is the place to go: there are others platforms, but I wouldn't say they can compete with Twitch (it is like talking about Youtube a few years ago: if you were banned there you were totally f***ed, until alternatives got the required traction).

On the other hand, while they will avoid regulatory risks, they can eventually lose their dominant position in this field, if competitors welcome the migrant streamers with more relaxed conditions. So this is a double-edged weapon to me.

This is why main competitors of Twitch should really be doing their best to make those innovation or much better than Twitch so that those streamers might able to see a new place for them to hang on.

For sure, surrounding streaming companies arent really that blind on what would gonna happen and they wouldn't really let this opportunity slip and since they do know that
they could have the chance on getting those people on using up the platform.

Each company does have its own rules and terms where it would be normal that they would be making such action whenever they
do see that issues becomes worst overtime.So getting rid of it is totally getting rid of things which is attached to it.

[Baofeng]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

Well, they can find another platform, but I don't think they will find in the short term a platform like Twitch. For certain content, and gambling streaming is that kind of content, this is the place to go: there are others platforms, but I wouldn't say they can compete with Twitch (it is like talking about Youtube a few years ago: if you were banned there you were totally f***ed, until alternatives got the required traction).

On the other hand, while they will avoid regulatory risks, they can eventually lose their dominant position in this field, if competitors welcome the migrant streamers with more relaxed conditions. So this is a double-edged weapon to me.

This is why main competitors of Twitch should really be doing their best to make those innovation or much better than Twitch so that those streamers might able to see a new place for them to hang on.

For sure, surrounding streaming companies arent really that blind on what would gonna happen and they wouldn't really let this opportunity slip and since they do know that
they could have the chance on getting those people on using up the platform.

Each company does have its own rules and terms where it would be normal that they would be making such action whenever they
do see that issues becomes worst overtime.So getting rid of it is totally getting rid of things which is attached to it.

I think they know what's coming on their way so for sure they will have to come up with something unique or at least very friendly for the gamblers per se. As in any other businesses, when once can't cater anymore, sooner or later another business will have to take advantage of the situation and win in this niche market.

And we have options already, I even posted some, so let's see how will they do specially after October 18 because this is the deadline that Twitch officially set for all gambling streamers in their platform.

[Wakate]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.

[delfastTions]

Streamers can certainly find another platform that can give them more freedom in their work, even if it is about gambling. And their viewers or subscribers will try to get more information about where their favorite streamers are so they can stay up to date with those streamers. And it looks like if most platforms ban those streamers, they need a crypto or gambling platform that specifically serves the ads from that business so that it doesn't prohibit them from broadcasting live.

I think it is understandable those which were streaming about gambling on this platform and suddenly they find themselves being banned from it are not very happy about this situation, but since there is demand for this type of content the only thing they need to do is to move to another platform and try to bring their viewers with them, is not easy but if the content they are producing is above the rest I think they can continue their gambling streaming without too much of a problem.

Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.

Twitch is actually owned by Twitch Interactive, a subsidiary of Amazon. In addition to PC games, Twitch hosts streams and videos of other topics, such as musical performances or poker tournaments.
Therefore, of course, the ban, which is apparently sanctioned by Amazon, hit hard on users of the service who have been using it for many years. By the way, Twitch itself is also over 10 years old since it was created. So the ban is a political decision.

Once again, the bosses of the IT industry did not give a damn about their people. 
Sadly.

[Woodie]

I don't think banning was the solution to this as different users have different needs of content which could have been in the gambling niche for example, with this move I see their userbase dropping after this goes in full swing ! BTW the best twitch would have done is putting up age restrictions to such content to prevent minors from accessing such if age is what's sited otherwise didn't see this coming 

[Silberman]

I don't think banning was the solution to this as different users have different needs of content which could have been in the gambling niche for example, with this move I see their userbase dropping after this goes in full swing ! BTW the best twitch would have done is putting up age restrictions to such content to prevent minors from accessing such if age is what's sited otherwise didn't see this coming 

To me this would have been a better choice instead of banning gambling streamings, I know they still allow poker and some other games but I still think the ban is too harsh, but it seems to me they were not interested in having this kind of content in their platform and this is why they went for the ban, still I think they are going to be the losers at the end of this as the demand for gambling related content has gone up dramatically since the pandemic started, and I do not see this tendency stopping anytime soon.

[paxmao]

Taking into account how the prohibition mostly affects cryptocurrency casinos, while the casinos that are licensed on the United States can still operate on this platform then it becomes very obvious to me that this sudden change in their policies has more to do with the government pressuring Twitch to forbid the promotion of cryptocurrency casinos, and that most likely they resisted against this move for some time but they were simply unable to take the pressure anymore and at the end they had to relent.

This wasn't about government pressuring Twitch to forbid on promoting crypto casinos, This was about Sliker who was a twitch streamer scamming multiple people for years there are proof of him begging money to other streamers and his own fans.
People assumed that it was used to feed his gambling addiction and this story blew up helping  big streamers who are against gambling streams to use it to pressure Twitch to ban gambling on the platform
*He already confessed it was about gambling and the total value he got is $300k+

Coffeezilla did a review about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnTsIO65oo

Sad to know that people would have such influence as to broadcast anyone gambling. I assume this also would affect poker tournaments? Because, honestly, those are broadcasted all over and nobody seems to care much. There seems to be some short of double standard, or maybe it is simply a calculation of benefit versus image cost done by twitch.

[doomloop]

To me this would have been a better choice instead of banning gambling streamings, I know they still allow poker and some other games but I still think the ban is too harsh, but it seems to me they were not interested in having this kind of content in their platform and this is why they went for the ban, still I think they are going to be the losers at the end of this as the demand for gambling related content has gone up dramatically since the pandemic started, and I do not see this tendency stopping anytime soon.

I can't agree more, the demand has increased exponentially due to the global lock downs and the online passive income exposures propaganda. The Twitch gambling ban is bad for company and slot streamers but on other hand no more addiction chasers will spent their time on such streams of their favorite streamer. Let's see what happens after mentioned date, other gambling platforms will suffer in terms of promotions after this decision, IMHO.

It is wiser to make money if they could, but they decided not to, so there must be some logic behind it. I mean you have to be insane to think that twitch would be saying no to gambling just for fun, when they were making so much money from it, it’s obvious that they would rather keep it going if they could, so there must be some pressure from the legal side that they need to close it down.

It’s like how there are so many companies who rather work in big nations, but move to Bahamas or something just because they have to, not because they want to, to make more profit. Twitch is owned by amazon, there could be some pressure from that side in the end.

[Silberman]

To me this would have been a better choice instead of banning gambling streamings, I know they still allow poker and some other games but I still think the ban is too harsh, but it seems to me they were not interested in having this kind of content in their platform and this is why they went for the ban, still I think they are going to be the losers at the end of this as the demand for gambling related content has gone up dramatically since the pandemic started, and I do not see this tendency stopping anytime soon.

I can't agree more, the demand has increased exponentially due to the global lock downs and the online passive income exposures propaganda. The Twitch gambling ban is bad for company and slot streamers but on other hand no more addiction chasers will spent their time on such streams of their favorite streamer. Let's see what happens after mentioned date, other gambling platforms will suffer in terms of promotions after this decision, IMHO.

It is wiser to make money if they could, but they decided not to, so there must be some logic behind it. I mean you have to be insane to think that twitch would be saying no to gambling just for fun, when they were making so much money from it, it’s obvious that they would rather keep it going if they could, so there must be some pressure from the legal side that they need to close it down.

It’s like how there are so many companies who rather work in big nations, but move to Bahamas or something just because they have to, not because they want to, to make more profit. Twitch is owned by amazon, there could be some pressure from that side in the end.

This seems like the correct read of the situation, businesses at the bottom line care nothing about morals or principles and they only follow the money, gambling streaming was very popular and if left alone it would have gotten even more popular in their platform, so why ban it? Most likely they thought it would cost them more money than what they were earning, so they decided to just stop allowing it on their website, but I am not worried, those streamers should be able to move to another platform and still post their content online.

[serjent05]

Taking into account how the prohibition mostly affects cryptocurrency casinos, while the casinos that are licensed on the United States can still operate on this platform then it becomes very obvious to me that this sudden change in their policies has more to do with the government pressuring Twitch to forbid the promotion of cryptocurrency casinos, and that most likely they resisted against this move for some time but they were simply unable to take the pressure anymore and at the end they had to relent.

This wasn't about government pressuring Twitch to forbid on promoting crypto casinos, This was about Sliker who was a twitch streamer scamming multiple people for years there are proof of him begging money to other streamers and his own fans.
People assumed that it was used to feed his gambling addiction and this story blew up helping  big streamers who are against gambling streams to use it to pressure Twitch to ban gambling on the platform
*He already confessed it was about gambling and the total value he got is $300k+

Coffeezilla did a review about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnTsIO65oo

I wonder why they don't just ban that account that is scamming people and needs to shut down the majority of the gambling streamer?  I don't think the problem is that simple.  For sure there is pressure from either the community or the government for twitch to act like that.  Twitch will lose millions of revenu by banning these gambling streamers and yet they do it.  If there is no big people behind this banned, I don't know how huge this Sliker is to make Twitch banned many gambling streams.

[malcovi2]

Taking into account how the prohibition mostly affects cryptocurrency casinos, while the casinos that are licensed on the United States can still operate on this platform then it becomes very obvious to me that this sudden change in their policies has more to do with the government pressuring Twitch to forbid the promotion of cryptocurrency casinos, and that most likely they resisted against this move for some time but they were simply unable to take the pressure anymore and at the end they had to relent.

This wasn't about government pressuring Twitch to forbid on promoting crypto casinos, This was about Sliker who was a twitch streamer scamming multiple people for years there are proof of him begging money to other streamers and his own fans.
People assumed that it was used to feed his gambling addiction and this story blew up helping  big streamers who are against gambling streams to use it to pressure Twitch to ban gambling on the platform
*He already confessed it was about gambling and the total value he got is $300k+

Coffeezilla did a review about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnTsIO65oo

I wonder why they don't just ban that account that is scamming people and needs to shut down the majority of the gambling streamer?  I don't think the problem is that simple.  For sure there is pressure from either the community or the government for twitch to act like that.  Twitch will lose millions of revenu by banning these gambling streamers and yet they do it.  If there is no big people behind this banned, I don't know how huge this Sliker is to make Twitch banned many gambling streams.

If Twitch isn't going to do something they will gonna lose some of the famous streamers.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/09/twitch-restricts-some-gambling-streams-amid-streamer-boycott-threat/

I don't think the problem is that simple.

Its really simple, some people do not like gambling and they have been voicing out their own concerns when XQC started his gambling streams.

[delfastTions]

I wonder why they don't just ban that account that is scamming people and needs to shut down the majority of the gambling streamer?  I don't think the problem is that simple.  For sure there is pressure from either the community or the government for twitch to act like that.  Twitch will lose millions of revenu by banning these gambling streamers and yet they do it.  If there is no big people behind this banned, I don't know how huge this Sliker is to make Twitch banned many gambling streams.

I also think that these events are mainly related to the economic component and options for optimizing costs and paying for traffic.
But the political component is also likely to take place. 
More precisely, an indication of some kind of American regulators, which the whole world obeys unconditionally, in terms of pressure on the use of cryptocurrency. 
Twitch is just an obedient tool in this whole big game.

[bitgolden]

I wonder why they don't just ban that account that is scamming people and needs to shut down the majority of the gambling streamer?  I don't think the problem is that simple.  For sure there is pressure from either the community or the government for twitch to act like that.  Twitch will lose millions of revenu by banning these gambling streamers and yet they do it.  If there is no big people behind this banned, I don't know how huge this Sliker is to make Twitch banned many gambling streams.

I also think that these events are mainly related to the economic component and options for optimizing costs and paying for traffic.
But the political component is also likely to take place. 
More precisely, an indication of some kind of American regulators, which the whole world obeys unconditionally, in terms of pressure on the use of cryptocurrency. 
Twitch is just an obedient tool in this whole big game.

I am not sure if they are really a "tool", they are not used for this, they are only afraid of what could happen to them, and if the US government is telling you to do something, you do it because it is always scarier otherwise. Plus, like it was said before, they are owned by amazon, one of the biggest American companies in the world, so they are ruled by them as well, if amazon says close down the gamblers, twitch does it because they are the boss.

Considering how big Amazon is, they should be afraid of USA, looking at their salaries and how the cheap workers are the reason why they make money, even the threat of making minimum wage 20+ dollars would crumble the whole amazon company.

[Unsoldier]

I think if you like gambling then watching online casino streams is not necessary. Play for your own pleasure, why waste time watching streams of gambling.

I want to ask gamblers. Why do you watch online casino streams?

[Eureka_07]

I think if you like gambling then watching online casino streams is not necessary. Play for your own pleasure, why waste time watching streams of gambling.

I want to ask gamblers. Why do you watch online casino streams?

Watching other people gamble, specially if they are winning hundreds of thousands or even millions like Roshtein and Train is also a pleasure to those people that are also playing slots. There could even have chance that those who just learned about slot/live casino gambling be entertained just by watching.
Also, personally I wouldn't be able to bet such big amount that these streamers are placing. So for me it really is a good opportunity to watch them play having such bets.

[theskillzdatklls]

Odysee in addition to having livestreaming and both crypto (creators keep 100%) and cash tips, of which cash tips 93% go to creators (not 50-70% lol) and being based off of the censorship proof blockchain technology on the LBRY network and mostly censorship free on the Odysee front-end also just introduced their memberships program just the other day:

https://odysee.com/$/memberships

This gives immense flexibility to streamers for optionality. This platform has been growing exponentially the past few years, but I can't believe it hasn't gotten even more attention after just all the mega deplatforming everywhere. This gambling thing being one small microcosm of the problem

[Crypt0Gore]

Wow, if they want to ban it they should go ahead, we have YouTube right? I believe YouTube still allow gambling videos with fair rules and regulations for the YouTubers, this is what Twitch should do too but well it's their problem.

[wiss19]

One thing is for sure, if the website doesn't want to let someone do something, that is in their right to do it. We consider "illegal" in a very grey sense here, because we like to gamble here and we are gamblers, but the reality is that gambling is not allowed in most places. Sure it's not as illegal as stealing from someone, or hurting someone, but it's still illegal.

It means, just like how you can't do any of those illegal things, you can't do this neither because it's illegal in almost everywhere aside from a few places. That's an important thing. Because it gives them the ease of mind to ban it, and give this as credible reason behind it.

[Mahdirakib]

~snip~

Based on this announcement, Twitch will update their policy on 18th October. They aren't going to allow the streaming of casino games. They have also mentioned the name of some casinos in the announcement, Stake is one of them. But Stake has announced that Drake will stream the casino games of Stake on his Twitch account on 17th October 1 AM GMT.

Drake vs Stake - Round 3
Drake is back on Stake this Sunday, live streaming insane high roller live casino betting!
Sunday 9pm EDT (Monday 1am GMT) on Twitch @ twitch.tv/StakeDrake
Drake will be giving away another $1,000,000! To enter the chance to win, ~~

Seems like Stake.com is trying to take the benefit of the current policy of Twitch to make their last stream there. I'm wondering what Twitch team will do during the stream of tomorrow

[jaberwock]

I am not sure if they are really a "tool", they are not used for this, they are only afraid of what could happen to them, and if the US government is telling you to do something, you do it because it is always scarier otherwise. Plus, like it was said before, they are owned by amazon, one of the biggest American companies in the world, so they are ruled by them as well, if amazon says close down the gamblers, twitch does it because they are the boss.

Considering how big Amazon is, they should be afraid of USA, looking at their salaries and how the cheap workers are the reason why they make money, even the threat of making minimum wage 20+ dollars would crumble the whole amazon company.

That is a scared move, and I understand why it is done but let's not act as if Amazon does everything USA tells them to do, they are the ones who forced USA to accept their situation by saying they could easily move their headquarters to Ireland, in fact some of the big tech startups did, some went to Singapore and some went to Ireland.

Because taxes there are lower, but then there are legal complications so most of them stayed of course. However, Amazon could have forced the government to accept the gambling streamers if they wanted to, it was a small time thing and wouldn't be really a matter for the government, they wouldn't care all that much, but instead Amazon didn't care too much and stopped it instead.