Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th.

[Baofeng]

^^ It's too early to say that if they are not affected revenue wise. Their decision was just implement last month and so there are no reports as far as their revenue goes.

And with that, give them at least a year to see how it is, if there is a mass exodus of twitch gambling streamers to other platform and bringing with them their followers. And if this is true then definitely it will be felt by Twitch and we will see their official report maybe around April-May where usually companies released to the public their revenues.

[Betwrong]

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I heard that in some countries smoking scenes in films (even the old 60-70s where everyone smoked in any situation) are subject to the effect of "blurring". That is, you do not see a cigarette 
Sounds like complete nonsense! At the same time, the scenes of the murder and other things remain. Such censorship is very funny, since the movie is supposed to reflect life, but when I see a "blurred" cigarette in the bandit's hand, I want to laugh.

I hope it won't come to that with gambling streaming. Imaging seeing slots blurred on Twitch, or wherever, when streamer is going "C'mon, c'mon, c'mon! I need another Scatter!!!". It's like listening to porn on the radio, innit? But seriously, it would be ridiculous, let's establish that.

After those words I would like to add that I would be happy if they found a way to prevent minors from watching those streams.

[wxa7115]

And now almost a month from their ban, it seems that gambling streams are still continuing. Paid gambling streamers are still being paid big time regardless of what platform they are going to show their game.

With that, did Twitch made the right decision?

Do they still make money out of those gambling streams in their platform? Because as far as I know there are still some that can stream it through Twitch.

I guess it's all just for publicity and PR matters. So, their critics would see that they're taking action on it nevertheless, Twitch is earning a lot from this gambling content and they just have to show that they're acting on probable complaints that they have received.
I'm sure that they just can't stopped these contents and there's a large reach for these gambling streamers and content so they just can't have a whole implementation of total ban to them.

Companies do this all the time, they had to show they were doing something against the possibility of those watching gambling streamers becoming addicted or presenting gambling problems and then argue they acquired this behavior on their platform.

But at the same time they wanted to keep the profits those streams produce, so they ban gambling streamers on paper but they fail to enforce the ban and they give the image they want while they still receive traffic and money from those streamers.

[Blawpaw]

This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.

All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...

[LUCKMCFLY]

Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.

As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch.

And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses.

That's just a valid action from twitch. Twitch is a huge platform already. I think they have two reasons why they are banning these unlicensed casinos to be streamed; one is not supporting platforms which could promote risk for the viewers (scam or fraud online gambling platforms) even if they are being streamed by trusted streamers, they might not want twitch to be a part of the potentil problem. Another guess is monetary support from the gambling platform. Things being streamed on twitch are gettinf more players because of the exposure twitch and streamers are giving. And thode unregidtered are more likely non-paying as well. But these are just mere guesses. They probably have more valid reasons why.

It is quite understandable if twitch did only ban gambling platforms that are unlicensed however most of the gambling platforms, they've banned are licensed such as Stake. But still, I guess that Twitch is avoiding any crypto gambling casino on their platform whether they are licensed or not. I'm not sure about the reason behind this but it is more likely connected to crypto.

What I think of all this is that Twitch killed the goose that lays the golden eggs, not only because it banned a casino of the caliber of stake.com but it is limiting things a lot, and from experience I know that when a site gets like this it goes bankrupt very quickly and no one will want to enter, no one likes limitations when it comes to money and more than that it is favorable to people, I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.

[Hispo]

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...I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.

Perhaps these measures announced by Twitch have anything to do with the NFT fever that was going on during the first months of this year?
Casinos have nothing to do with NFT's but NFTs are part of the crypto ecosystem. Because many failed projects and scams which involved NFT's, there has been a negative perception about them, specially from the public which does not partake in our community very often. is there any possibility this was the idea of an uninformed Twitch executive ?

[LUCKMCFLY]

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...I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.

Perhaps these measures announced by Twitch have anything to do with the NFT fever that was going on during the first months of this year?
Casinos have nothing to do with NFT's but NFTs are part of the crypto ecosystem. Because many failed projects and scams which involved NFT's, there has been a negative perception about them, specially from the public which does not partake in our community very often. is there any possibility this was the idea of an uninformed Twitch executive ?

Well, personally, when there was the rise of NFT games, I was one of those who thought it was going to be something very good, and I played Plants vs Undead, and also through a scholarship I went to play Axie, maybe I came. in too late and I had no profit first in Plants vs Undead it stopped after I joined and kept going down and in Axie you have to be really good to get everything so basically what I did was lose money then maybe the fact having twitch with an uninformed agent or executive could have had a significant impact when making a decision, however I think there are things that have more weight behind all this.

Currently with the NFT thing they have cleaned up the name a lot, for example in Rollbit, they have their project with the NFT Rollbots and that gives a lot of credibility to the NFT, for me there was much more to the Twitch thing and that maybe we don't know, In this aspect, the business model they manage is quite broad and it is very difficult to determine the reasons or possible reasons and to tell the truth, what you suppose is something that makes a lot of sense, maybe that's where the whole problem is headed.

[Solosanz]

This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.

All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...

You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch ban the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give huge impact to twitch.

[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics

[Hispo]

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Sorry to read you had a bad experience with those NFT games, I have personally met some people around here which were invested in Plants vs Undead and friend of mine who also had a Axie Infinity scholarship. I never played Axie but at first glance seems to be a well-built game, at least...

Also, the problem is that for every legitimate NFT project, there are hundreds of scams which basically just want to steal people's Ether without even delivering the tokens in a proper way or with the functionality promised. I am just trying to make sense out the timing of this ban, gambling has been a thing for a while both in Youtube and Twitch, I even recall people gambled with Counter Strike skins of high value, both teens and children had easy access to those Youtubers and streamers, one of the only differences this time is the existence of the NFTs, otherwise, if Twitch was worried about teens consuming gambling videos they would have taken measures before.

[Cling18]

This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.

All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...

You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch banned the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give a huge impact on twitch.

[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics

Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.

[bittraffic]

This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.

All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...

You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch banned the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give a huge impact on twitch.

[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics

Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.

Not really impressive statistics compare to thier biggest competitor. The streamers went to Twitch to expand their audience but most of these streamers started on youtube which they still are on youtube, they just have an account on Twitch, Dlive, Rumble, and Facebook.

But this gambling streamers ban could be a directive from authorities and so they don't want to be suppressed they just follow.

[Genemind]

Twitch has a huge community but gambling streamers still have lots of options since there are still other bigger platforms that allow them to stream freely. It seems like Twitch wants to protect its reputation but the sad thing is, it's also affecting gambling businesses as well as streamers who just want to earn. I think it's time for streamers to ask their followers to still follow and support them when they switch to other platforms so they will still b able to make money from streaming. I'm sure that more better opportunities await them.

It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer.
This may be a way to make money for platforms that still allow those streamers to upload their content.

For sure it did really make out some effects somehow in talks about revenue specially on Twitch considering that they had ban out gambling streams or content which it is really something but its not
an overall thing which could put them on huge effect since they are still running despite of the ban.For those streamers who had been affected then pretty sure that they would really be
switching up into other place which i do see the nearest platform would be Dlive.

https://www.bigwinboard.com/former-twitch-crypto-streamers-find-new-home-on-dlive/
https://thegamerstation.com/en/twitch-banned-gambling-streamers-switched-to-dlive/

So not really that a big issue.

Most Twitch gambling streamers I know switched to Dlive before the ban had taken effect. I think this ban from twitch somehow affected gambling casinos because some casinos hire twitch streamers to promote their platform. It's one of the best way to get prospect gambler for a gambling website. I haven't watched and gambling streams for a while, so I have no clue how it ended for some streamers when they switched over to Dlive.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer

Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitch

[Betwrong]

~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.

I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.

I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?

They will definitely move to another platform,  though it haven't occurred to me to research and see what was the later outcome of this since we are way past the October 18th which was the initial deadline, I believe that if the ban was later enforced, then it should be in full effect by now, I will try to find out later

But the sure thing is that most streamers will definitely move to another platform, I don't even know why they all would have to depend on one platform in the first place, there's Instagram, there's Facebook(though I hate this platform), there's YouTube(I don't know if gambling streams are legal here though), there are a lot other social media platforms where they can move, or better still, they come together and create their own streaming platform with zero censorship/that is completely decentralization.

[seoincorporation]

This was a tricky move because gambling streams weren't really banned at all as you can see in the next link:

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slots

People keep streaming slots, and the question here is, Then what does really change?

People can't promote casinos or use their affiliate links, and that was the main reason why the main gambling streamers decide to quit twitch.

[Mr.right85]

Back lashes in the sense of gambling addiction in its users or in the sense that, users promotes referral link through there casted streams.
They need to be really clear on what these back lashes are because, these are the purposes or benefits one could hope to get from these activities with respect to site and individual broadcaster or stream host.
Eithe of the reasons, I don't see what's wrong in that!

Addiction would always build in users that are unable to manage there gambling habits. It doesn't matter much about the streams, so long as there is other promotions on the bets, that's some good enough exposure.

Banning don't seem like the best solution to me.

[Betwrong]

~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.

I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?

They will definitely move to another platform,  though it haven't occurred to me to research and see what was the later outcome of this since we are way past the October 18th which was the initial deadline, I believe that if the ban was later enforced, then it should be in full effect by now, I will try to find out later
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As I see from the latest news, streaming purely luck-based games was banned on twitch, and now Twitch’s viewership is at its lowest point since September 2020, and, among other things, gambling ban has contributed to that, I'm sure.

But the sure thing is that most streamers will definitely move to another platform, I don't even know why they all would have to depend on one platform in the first place, there's Instagram, there's Facebook(though I hate this platform), there's YouTube(I don't know if gambling streams are legal here though), there are a lot other social media platforms where they can move, or better still, they come together and create their own streaming platform with zero censorship/that is completely decentralization.

Yes, look at this news:


Following Twitch's decision to ban some forms of gambling content on the streaming platform, Tyler “Trainwreck” Niknam — one of the biggest streamers on the website for several years — announced his plans to move over to a new streaming site known as Kick.com.

Trainwreck's channel still has a month old video with slots spinning



but it is called "LAST GAMBLING STREAM ON TWITCH". The video's got over 2 million views, and it looks like it was indeed the last gambling related stream by him. But I personally think Trainwreck won't actually leave twitch. We'll see.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer

Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitch

Well without going too far, in the case of stake.com, with Drake he is an influencer who can go to any platform and I am sure that any of his followers will not mind going where he says, because they are people who already have many followers, fans and twitch is just a platform, it doesn't mean that ´for the platform all the fun and things should continue, it's a shame because I personally like that platform a lot, it's also comfortable and when the internet connection it was slow there was a special buffer function, that's something very comfortable, I'm not the only one who sometimes has a slow internet, so all those functions are what one misses.

[stomachgrowls]

It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer

Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitch

Well without going too far, in the case of stake.com, with Drake he is an influencer who can go to any platform and I am sure that any of his followers will not mind going where he says, because they are people who already have many followers, fans and twitch is just a platform, it doesn't mean that ´for the platform all the fun and things should continue, it's a shame because I personally like that platform a lot, it's also comfortable and when the internet connection it was slow there was a special buffer function, that's something very comfortable, I'm not the only one who sometimes has a slow internet, so all those functions are what one misses.

Does DLive doesnt have this kind of feature? I havent used Dlive or other streaming platforms other than Twitch which it is really indeed that great but since they do make out such decision then there's nothing we can

do.To those who are solid fans of those streamers then if they do tend to switch up into other platforms then it would really be normal that they would really be following along.In speaking with those competitors of

Twitch which its really that impossible that they wont really be applying other platforms feature and would tend to hook up those previous users specially now
that Twitch had really ban or prohibit gambling streams.