Gacha Game

[aioc]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

I am one of those who don't know this game but based on the reward system and the way they get those random items to make their character stronger I consider it gambling, anything that you use the word pin and roll and money to do this I consider it very similar to dice or slot, and of course players are spending money with uncertainty for those rolls and spins, majority of games are like that you need to play or to buy to get those items, but as long as you enjoy and you only use money that you can afford to lose or you allocate money for this you're good for this game.

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[Ararbermas]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

for me IMO we cannot call it gambling unless if we can get profits from it as well reason we spend money.. If not and the reason is to get more items on the games like what you've said above, then we cannot consider it as a gambling addiction, wherein you just being addicted on the game even you know thay there's no good return from it.   

[traderethereum]

I have never played this type of game but if I search for a while, I see that this game is almost similar as gambling games in which player deposit their money to buy some features.
And the reason why people play this game is because of the money that they can get while they play.
But unfortunately, not all people will get the money because that depends on their luck.

[bitzizzix]

Gacha games are more or less similar to gambling, can increase a high sense of comfort when you can get what you are looking for, when dopamine increases, the brain will continue to look for similar stimuli and make it a common addiction reaction.
Gacha games are a relatively new genre that is rapidly gaining popularity in Japan and many other countries around the world. And usually, gacha games have a mechanic of the same name, where you use something similar to a toy vending machine to get random virtual items, for example, new characters, costumes, and armor.
And it allows you to create your own world with an army of powerful characters. However, to use the gacha machine, you need in-game currency or real money.
and the list of the best gacha games in my opinion is, GENSHIN IMPACT, ANOTHER EDEN, GACHA NEON, AZUR LANE, RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS.

[seoincorporation]

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That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

I used to play Clash of Clans and Clash Royale... Both games are free to play but you can buy gems to bump your levels on the game. I never did it, but it takes years to get to the max level just to realize the new update with more levels will come soon, lol.

The crazy thing is how good business this can be, in the example of the 2 games i mention before, they belong to Supercell, and that company is now worth $11B!

Source: https://www.aakashg.com/2021/12/22/supercell-story/

[rhomelmabini]

for me IMO we cannot call it gambling unless if we can get profits from it as well reason we spend money.. If not and the reason is to get more items on the games like what you've said above, then we cannot consider it as a gambling addiction, wherein you just being addicted on the game even you know thay there's no good return from it.   

That's just on you mate but gambling doesn't mean it's all about profits, something like rewards to be won at the end can be considered gambling, just because it's gambling doesn't mean it's all about money. For Gacha I guess we can associate it on gambling though with a different propose.

[rahmad2nd]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

I don't know this game maybe because I've been very rarely involved with application-based games. but if I try to find out about gacha games on the internet, it seems that this game has almost similarities with other games in general. and if I refer to what you said, many people spend money just to buy items, skins, game currency, and so on. it's very commonplace, not surprising at all. in fact, esports games are the same.
I think there is a difference between gambling addiction and addiction to games like esports or gacha games. but basically both fall into one category, namely addiction.

[Doell]

This game is a complete waste of money, for some people who like it and possibility to be addictive, but not for me. Yes I've played this game gacha, it's interesting and the same as gambling, spend money and hope to get items etc. I don't think it's worth it if we play gambling just to increase the quality of our game account, so for me personally playing gambling is better go directly to the source such as casino to collect a lot of money.

[Cling18]

I haven't tried this game but I'm familiar with it because one of my colleagues is addicted to it. This will only be addicting to those who always want to purchase items online but to those who only want to focus on betting and winning money or crypto, they wouldn't surely get interested in it. This is fun but will only waste bigger funds compare to regular and traditional casino games.

[Solosanz]

so for me personally playing gambling is better go directly to the source such as casino to collect a lot of money.

Are you sure? can you give me a proof of your account history to show me how much did you deposit and how much did you withdraw?

I say this because most of gamblers are lose due to house edge, but you're saying you have collected a lot money from gambling. If the gambler has sole purpose to earn money, I believe sooner or later he will become a gambling addict. For me gambling is for fun because I'm more interested to play with my friends to enjoy the game together, so I'm not really looking to earn money. Losing money in gambling is a normal thing that should be in our own mind.

[ralle14]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

I've never played any of those games but I remember watching a streamer play one of the three games and if it could provide them better chances of winning then it's more likely for people to buy those and potentially become addicted. Sometimes they'd even held events or quests that would earn you a small amount of in-game currency which could encourage you to spend actual money. It's not easy to say someone's addicted just because they've spend a lot but it can be a trigger to start their addiction.

[dothebeats]

Used to be an addict in Summoner's War, and I make sure that I always top-up for the weekly packages because at the time, it was where you get the most value out of your spending. Luckily I pulled myself out of that money sink and whenever I check my debit card history from 2016 to 2017, I almost always choke because I still can't believe that I downed more than $5,000 on a game that has no resale value whatsoever. You only literally play for the glory and the ranking, and I'm a sucker for ranking-centric games then and Summoner's War is that game wherein I can leave it afk and still get work done. Right now I am still playing gacha games (Genshin, Mir4) but never spent a single dime on them anymore because of what 2016-2017 taught me You can say that it's also gambling addiction, because you are always hoping for an S-tier or SSS+ roll every single time, but of course that's not gonna happen not unless you spend money to get more chances on the said pull.

[madnessteat]

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Personally, my opinion is that such games are certainly gambling. You spend money and get a chance to win a game item of varying rarity. There is excitement in it when you play this game on a regular basis and I believe that such people can acquire a gaming addiction. I can say the same about people who buy NFTs. After all, their trade is also very much dependent on random chance, which means it can also be attributed to gambling.

[Findingnemo]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

Almost every game has such in app purchases and that's how mostly the gaming company makes money and for yes its definitely a kind of addiction and lot worse than gambling because no matter what they get, they are simply taking chances for nothing other than digital avatar which doesn't have any value at all.

Many government noticed this and banned such games or in app purchases because kids purchase lot of items with their parents cards.

Well, it doesn't have anything to do with gambling, its simply gaming addiction to the core.

[Hispo]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

I have not played those games before but I am well aware of their existence.
When comes to gaming I prefer to enjoy games which are one time purchase. I personally do not like where the gaming industry is heading by the introduction of exaggerated micro-transactions or loot boxes.

Gacha games in my opinion are another form of gambling, it has its own  target public, and there is nothing wrong with having as much variety as possible of games, but it is important to call them what they really are and do not allow minors to get addicted to these kind of addicting experiences. Children and teens under 18 should stick to experiences where in-game currency (with irl value) has nothing to do with the fundamental mechanics of the product whatsoever.

Of course, I have no problems with adults enjoying these games, though.

[lionheart78]

Anyone here played games like FGO, Epic Seven, or Summoners War before? Do you consider it to be some kind of gambling addiction if a player whales or spend tons of money in the game just to get a certain item?

For those who don't know, a gacha game is a genre of video game where players pull, spin, or roll using an in-game currency to receive a random item. That item can be something that could make their characters stronger or sometimes it's just some limited skin which has no effect other than to make their characters look cooler.

Gacha game is somehow on the borderline of gambling but somehow is not considered as is because of technicalities.  You can see the argument of why and why not a gacha game is a gambling in this article. [1]
I will quote some part of the argument :

Why it is gambling:

The purpose of these social currencies is likely to be two-fold. One the one hand, using an artificial currency makes transactions feel less real and often encourages players to spend more than they would using real money. This tactic is, of course, akin to the use of betting chips in a casino. Secondly, offering social currencies enables developers to place an extra step between the purchase and the part of the process that could be considered gambling.

Why it is not gambling:

Players will always get something for their money, with even duplicate rewards being exchangeable for other resources. Secondly, the aforementioned purchase of social currency cannot really be considered a random outcome. If players are exchanging $40 of cash for $40 of social currency, they’re obtaining a known quantity – and this currency can often be used for other in-game purchases that aren’t randomly-generated. From a purely legal perspective, many international statutes also require the prize to be a “thing of value” before playing for it to be considered gambling.

I considered it as gambling no matter what is the reason why it isn't considered one, it matches the definition of gambling that is wagering in the hope to get a better result.




[1] https://www.casino.org/blog/gacha-games-gambling/

[uneng]

I agree they can be considered gambling. Players may get addicted on the rewards and won't measure any limits in order to acquire what they want. They can spend hundreds of even thousands of dollars until winning the desired skin or skill in order to stand out among other players or maintain a top position on the game's ranking.

The only difference to traditional gambling is that in this case players aren't looking for money or profit with their gambling addiction. They are looking for status and prestige.

[coolcoinz]

These games are popular in specific region of the world. Moreover it turns to be a addictive game which helps people avoid over spending through other forms of gambling. It is something like dressing up the Barbie doll by the little kids. In game currency being used, maybe the same with cryptocurrency might interest some of us to explore it.

They're trying to push them everywhere these days. Youtubers get paid for advertising them, you can get commercials in other android games and so on.
They're addicting but the most important part is they bring a lot of revenue because you don't have to run big servers to host games. These games don't require a lot of data, they're relatively light on servers and everything is basically done by player's device. Only very little information is exchanged between the main server and your phone. This means that you don't need big support team and a great connection to your servers but people's imagination works wonders and makes them feel like they're building a character there, even if all they get is a number next to one of their stats. I wouldn't pay for it but some people do.

[Doell]

so for me personally playing gambling is better go directly to the source such as casino to collect a lot of money.

Are you sure? can you give me a proof of your account history to show me how much did you deposit and how much did you withdraw?

I say this because most of gamblers are lose due to house edge, but you're saying you have collected a lot money from gambling. If the gambler has sole purpose to earn money, I believe sooner or later he will become a gambling addict. For me gambling is for fun because I'm more interested to play with my friends to enjoy the game together, so I'm not really looking to earn money. Losing money in gambling is a normal thing that should be in our own mind.

Nope, I'ill not give any proof regarding deposits and withdraw, that's a private matter, but all I can tell you a bit is the possibility I also often lose . I say it's just (better), rather than having to play a that game just isn't profitable (for me).
Try guess, how many people spend money in games "based on the game regarding the content in this thread" I guess maybe tens of thousands dollars. That's just for satisfaction, maybe the game account can be sold but the profit is not worth the struggle that has been passed, so I think it's better to gamble. But I'm glad to see you corrected my opinion.

[dothebeats]

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I considered it as gambling no matter what is the reason why it isn't considered one, it matches the definition of gambling that is wagering in the hope to get a better result.

No matter the technicalities are, you can't deny that gacha's core mechanics let you aim for the best-in-slot or best overall character/item/pet/etc. for the money that you are spending. Kinda like slots, there aren't any certainties on the outcome that you'll be getting yet you're still pulling that lever or pushing that button waiting for the best outcome. Gacha just got the same mechanic, except that they are quite generous because you still receive something that can be combined or exchanged for a higher-tier item, or you get a 'pity system' that gets you a guaranteed high-tier item/character after certain amount of rolls.