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Author Topic: Satoshi Nakamoto- If he ever made himself known what would make you believe it?  (Read 326 times)
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September 24, 2022, 03:58:18 AM
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The only thing convincing enough would be to provide proof of ownership of an address believed to belong to Satoshi. He can sign a message or move coins from a specific address. If he were to reveal his identity he would be under immense scrutiny. Most people would never want to attract that kind of attention so I doubt we will ever find out until maybe far into the future when his fortune is passed on to a family member.

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September 24, 2022, 05:05:32 AM
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You can see lot of topics having the same discussion and the answer again goes the same that does it matter? He has made himself out of the bitcoin due to some reasons but it's not like there is centralised control for bitcoin with him and we all know how it works in decentralised manner without him also so why are we always running behind revealing his indentity? And is it necessary to do so? We need to rise above from these things as his mystery will not be solved and we are just creating our imaginary thoughts about this whole thing.

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September 25, 2022, 06:28:18 AM
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So many folks have tried to claim they are him. Not that I really think that he will ever make his identity known to the world, but if he does say on his deathbed or something, how would Satoshi go about doing so? IF he did want people to know who he was whenever he became ready to do it, how would he do it in a way that everyone could believe him?
 
People will believe him in the following ways:
• through his personal details because there are Satoshi details people will see in the community or in the court to believe that he is the real Satoshi.
• through his bitcointalk account, people will believe him because they believe that it is only the owner of the account or his wife can have access to that particular Satoshi bitcointalk account.
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From what I have observed, any person who has come forward and declared themselves Satoshi has not had sufficient proof that they are. So, if we were to discuss this, what would suffice as sufficient proof that they are in fact the real Satoshi?
His real personal details is what people that claim to be Satoshi has failed to present to public that made them to disgrace themselves to the whole world, because the real Satoshi has all the evidence to be the founder of Bitcoin , which is the personal details that will make people to believe that he is the right Satoshi the world is looking for to appreciate for his good work.


What personal data are you talking about? Why Satoshi should have his real name? He simply cannot have his real name because he is a stickler for privacy. Besides the fact that so much time has passed, I still think that if Satoshi, being a very smart person, and having the desire to show himself one day, he could do it. And not only by signing messages from his address, he probably had a lot of evidence about which we do not yet know. 
However, revealing one's identity means moving away from the idea of Bitcoin. Remaining anonymous, Satoshi shows an example of what he originally intended.

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September 25, 2022, 06:56:29 AM
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how to trust its him?
1- transfers from satoshi wallets
2- signing message with his ghp key

That's what exactly it is! If Mr. Nakamoto wants to come out in public (which I don't think he will), that's how he can prove his identity. If it happens, the entire community will have no choice but to believe. That's one point Craig Wright could not address and he said in the court that he has lost the keys of Satoshi's wallet and that's why he is not able to access it. That's the main authentication for us to believe who is real Satoshi and who is not!

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September 25, 2022, 07:19:28 AM
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I'm not sure anything at this point would make me believe that satoshi is someone claiming to be him.  If you've managed to stay anonymous for this long, I feel there's no reason why you'd come out now.  Even if someone signed using his private keys, I would assume the keys were stolen or found by one of his heirs.  So I guess the answer to your question is, nothing.  Sure, I'd go along with consensus if the community decided presented evidence was good enough, but in the back of my mind I would think there's something fishy going on.

Interesting point and thought provoking.

I, like almost everyone would have said "move coins" from Satoshi wallets or "Sign a message"
from those wallets would do the trick but thinking about it if these two actions have not been
done by now any future actions from those wallets could be questionable.

All the times to prove the likes of CSW a fake have passed, those opportune times we were
wishing and hoping for where Satoshi would make those ground breaking actions have passed.

If it didnt happen then, its hard to see them happening in the future.

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September 25, 2022, 07:25:00 AM
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For me personally, there would need to be 2 things I would need to see.  First would be a transfer from 3-4 of their address and for these to be signed as well.  I still think it is best that the mystery of the current existence of Satoshi lives on.
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For me personally, there would need to be 2 things I would need to see.  First would be a transfer from 3-4 of their address and for these to be signed as well.  I still think it is best that the mystery of the current existence of Satoshi lives on.

This is true. And this is the only way how we can prove our identity here in crypto world since we don’t post any details here about personal information and only wallet address for our transaction. The forum signed message is also the only way to claim ownership of our account here so by this using his original wallet address will surely prove his identity.

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For me personally, there would need to be 2 things I would need to see.  First would be a transfer from 3-4 of their address and for these to be signed as well.  I still think it is best that the mystery of the current existence of Satoshi lives on.

This is true. And this is the only way how we can prove our identity here in crypto world since we don’t post any details here about personal information and only wallet address for our transaction. The forum signed message is also the only way to claim ownership of our account here so by this using his original wallet address will surely prove his identity.

Yes, that is true, but it does not have to be three addresses, only one address is enough. For me, if he can be able to transfer bitcoin from any of the 50 BTC reward he got from any of the blocks people knew was mined by Satoshi, or if he can be able to sign the bitcoin address he used to receive the reward, then I will believe he is Satoshi. No one can do that for now, even the well known Faketoshi can not do that.

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has anyone here thought about what bitcoin would be like if satoshi were to go public and return to this world? bitcoin is known as a decentralized currency with no head and control is given to the community, this is the difference between bitcoin and alts today

bitcoin is becoming the target of many governments because of its anonymity and decentralization so the arrival of satoshi will cause bitcoin to be disturbed, i guess governments will interrogatory satoshi everything about bitcoin to change or control it. so it's better for him not to come out, it's not good for him and bitcoin, i respect his decision to remain anonymous forever

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On a side note, if Satoshi ever did come out and be able to prove his identity, how do you think that the world/governments would respond? Its honestly a scary thought, because there are so many people that hate crypto and bitcoin. Someone like him would surely become a target. Which is no doubt the reason he has kept his identity a secret.

Why would Satoshi Nakamoto become a target? Did he do something illegal?
The creator of Ethereum Vitalik Buterin is a public figure and everyone in the crypto world knows who he is.
Did the crypto haters try to do something bad to Buterin? Nope. Do you think that the crypto haters will try to kill or put Buterin in jail? I don't think so.
Do you think that killing Satoshi Nakamoto (or putting him in prison) would destroy the Bitcoin Core blockchain? I don't think so.
Bitcoin Core is doing just fine without him for several years. Satoshi appearing out of nowhere and revealing his identity won't change anything at this point.

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So many folks have tried to claim they are him. Not that I really think that he will ever make his identity known to the world, but if he does say on his deathbed or something, how would Satoshi go about doing so? IF he did want people to know who he was whenever he became ready to do it, how would he do it in a way that everyone could believe him?
Anyone can claim the creator of bitcoin, but no one can prove Satoshi's Identity. Even I don't think his parents knew Satoshi as closely as we think today, the great work created by him is more important than his identity, so bitcoin is the most sought after by people and doesn't really care how people think about it

From what I have observed, any person who has come forward and declared themselves Satoshi has not had sufficient proof that they are. So, if we were to discuss this, what would suffice as sufficient proof that they are in fact the real Satoshi?
And also want to reverse your question, to what extent can one believe that it is Satoshi out of many who have made confessions, if he really wants to reveal his identity can anyone believe it and what evidence do you think he should have?
Being there to convince people wasn't easy and it wasn't like Satoshi wanted to do that.

because there are so many people that hate crypto and bitcoin. Someone like him would surely become a target. Which is no doubt the reason he has kept his identity a secret.
Just imagine many other people who do not hate bitcoin, so bitcoin is growing very rapidly for now.
I mean like this, to link bitcoin, Satoshi and Government is no longer a problem, it's better that we no longer try to talk about it, the most important thing is that people's awareness of bitcoin has been very developed, because many people understand better and this is the best solution in investment.

It is curious though, what is he doing now? Has Satoshi ever tried to leave a message since his disappearance? Perhaps something hidden in plain sight? The biggest mystery of bitcoin, is he alive and well or was he Hal Finney and already passed? What is he like/where is he now? What does he like to do in his spare time. These things all come to mind, and I wish we had some answers. Wouldn't it be incredible if somehow he left a "final goodbye" message somewhere or like a book or something when he is ready to give it to the world. After BTC has turned a certain age or something.
The question is why did he do that.
to be famous?
to be appreciated?
or wishing for a nobel prize and other things in private.
and I honestly don't think Satoshi expected that, from what he created such a huge masterpiece with bitcoin.

No one can even guarantee where he is now, or maybe he's quite close to us on this forum.
The message he left was nothing more than the development of Bitcoin which is growing and advancing, because this is more rational than anything else.

I wonder if something like this will ever come about, maybe its just wishful thinking but if I created something like this for the entire world I would want people to hear my passion for its creation & also to leave some sort of closing message somewhere down the road as opposed to just peacing out at the first mention of the FBI. He is out there! Somewhere, doing something. He's got to be.
People limit the relationship between privacy and work, because they have big dreams for change, but it seems these people are more comfortable keeping their identity a secret, compared to a nobel prize or anything for an Award.
If you want to create great things, then think about doing what Satoshi did, because of the many great works that have been created, only Satoshi is the only person who has a big heart and is not rash when it comes to identity.
So what we see, he has been living comfortably without anyone knowing about it, and just imagine if his identity was published in the media, what would happen to him and his family.

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Wherever you are Satoshi, i'm sure that you're having a great time and living your best life and surely safe and secure, one would hope
Your last sentence, is actually the answer to many of the questions you have given, if you are able to analyze and understand the sentence.
Simple and quite practical to answer questions people ask about Satoshi.

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If respected people in Bitcoin community - Core devs, a few forum members, would trust that the person is Satoshi, I would trust them too. As for evidence, I think it all should come together and form a convincing picture. If someone would have access to coins that are believed to be Satoshi's, but would behave in a very different manner, I would be inclined to believe that the coins were stolen or something like that.

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