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October 12, 2022, 07:17:27 AM
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It is sad that kids generally follow paths founded by their dads. So we can reach bad dad/good dad argument through this. Gambler dad will definitely become inspiration to kid. If dad likes to break the law, son will definitely try to enjoy it. Think about a kid who grew up in casinos. That type of kid will definitely develop some gambler type of personality. So its no surprise for me honestly. If your dad is billionaire its even easier to become gambler.
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October 12, 2022, 07:19:51 AM
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Well I know that every parent is free to raise their children as they want, I don't know what Michael's son does, but what he is doing is not good, it is something bad, the money he is spending I imagine belongs to his father , but even so I consider that he can spend what he wants and embarrass himself as long as the money is his own and that he has earned it to decide how to spend it, that is something very delicate, I think that he as a father should make it very clear things and not throw so much money at them with such irresponsibility, I think that the children of celebrities do not manage to give them a good life, they believe that if they give them everything, I know that wealth is to be shared with the family, especially the children, but neither like that.
Because it was their children and they are the ones who give financial support and others, and not the people who judge them. For them this is their way to show love to their kids and their kids want to do the same because if they aren't, do we think parents will insist that insanity?

I guess no. It's only sad that judgmental people will always be there and they can't possibly be removed in this society that we are living in but the best thing that we can do is just ignore those people and start living the way we want. That is the only key there to be happy. Minding them will only make you stressed and the issue will only grow bigger. I don't think we want that kind of life.

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October 13, 2022, 08:49:56 AM
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Well, we can't compete with the Jordan family in the end! What is $5M for older Jordan? A few days on some yacht? Or $50k for his son? I guess nothing... people just have fun with what they can afford to lose!

Yes, Jordans can afford spending huge amounts of money on gambling, alcohol and stuff, but what's really interesting is that they are not doing it. The cases described by the OP were nearly the only such cases in their life.

Anyone can go off the rails at one point of his/her life, but what's important is to have this strength which can help you to return back to normal. Imo, Michael Jordan is a good father, who illustrated by his own example how to not become a gambling addict.

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October 13, 2022, 11:08:05 AM
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majority of gamblers are not playing because they wanted to be entertained but instead to double their money and to find their luck.

But is this actually the reality that they face at thee end? everyone has the intention to make money but not all are making it through gambling, only few have succeeded in playing gamble and have some good return after, parents must know this that they must not let their children got exposed to gambling at early stage, playing games can be an alternative to that but there must be time designated for each to take place.
yes , thats what I mean mate, majority of gamblers are indeed longing for double or even higher from their capital but not anticipating the reality that what they are getting is losses .
but this is not our concern anyway as we are only trying to advice them for what is good and better.

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October 13, 2022, 12:37:09 PM
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It is sad that kids generally follow paths founded by their dads. So we can reach bad dad/good dad argument through this. Gambler dad will definitely become inspiration to kid. If dad likes to break the law, son will definitely try to enjoy it. Think about a kid who grew up in casinos. That type of kid will definitely develop some gambler type of personality. So its no surprise for me honestly. If your dad is billionaire its even easier to become gambler.
Exactly, growing up have a lot to do without mental reasoning and most time the environment always influences our lives, that is why as a parent one needs to be a good role model to the kids and try as much as possible to lay good examples for our kids to follow. I have seen a bad dad good child situation in some cases and the dad makes sure he separates his gambling life and another bad influencing lifestyle away from the kids until when the kids are above 18+ and can decide for themselves.
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Well, we can't compete with the Jordan family in the end! What is $5M for older Jordan? A few days on some yacht? Or $50k for his son? I guess nothing... people just have fun with what they can afford to lose!

Yes, Jordans can afford spending huge amounts of money on gambling, alcohol and stuff, but what's really interesting is that they are not doing it. The cases described by the OP were nearly the only such cases in their life.

Anyone can go off the rails at one point of his/her life, but what's important is to have this strength which can help you to return back to normal. Imo, Michael Jordan is a good father, who illustrated by his own example how to not become a gambling addict.

Well, I wouldn't call it "going off the rails either"! It's just fun! But fun for people with money (or lots of money (multimillionaires or billionaires)) and people without money is not the same. I guess there's no cap when it comes to how much money can spend a group of friends for a weekend in Vegas, starting from booking the presidential suite or shity room in some motel to playing games with $1 min blind or $10k min blind... and then everything that can come between. Smiley
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October 13, 2022, 05:05:03 PM
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Gambling for children is quite dangerous for the child's psychological condition, especially if he uses money to gamble from his parents' income. You can find ways to deal with and how to start teaching these children on trusted site below.

https://www.parents.com/parenting/money/teach-kids-gambling-dangers/

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October 13, 2022, 07:40:56 PM
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majority of gamblers are not playing because they wanted to be entertained but instead to double their money and to find their luck.

But is this actually the reality that they face at thee end? everyone has the intention to make money but not all are making it through gambling, only few have succeeded in playing gamble and have some good return after, parents must know this that they must not let their children got exposed to gambling at early stage, playing games can be an alternative to that but there must be time designated for each to take place.
yes , thats what I mean mate, majority of gamblers are indeed longing for double or even higher from their capital but not anticipating the reality that what they are getting is losses .
but this is not our concern anyway as we are only trying to advice them for what is good and better.

In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.



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October 13, 2022, 10:59:40 PM
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In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.
Many people talk about education and teaching their kid the right and wrong. But I have notices there are some inborn qualities of the kids too
Some kids are hard to deal with - even if you try you cannot teach them what you want to ... they go on their own path. wanting to get lost
Agree!

This is why its not really that accurate or 100% to say that their parents should really be the one to be blamed off specially if their kids do really lost off track or had done something wrong.

I could say that basing up with real experience which i do see some of my friends family which their parents are really that good when it comes on handling and raising up their child
and both father and mother are really that respectable and something strict when it comes to things which you could really say that their children is been raised up well
but there is one of the family members do really go into other path which is something opposite on which their parents had taught.

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October 14, 2022, 12:30:03 AM
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What do you make out of this story, should we really allow our children to live such a lifestyle like gambling and night clubbing, most especially, when they are still under aged?
I have posted several times on this forum that my kids may not know that I am gambling, that I would prefer only my wife to know about it. I still do not know what would be my conclusion about this yet, if it is right thing for someone to let his children to know if he is gambling or not. But I am still thinking that it would be most appropriate to let them know but to teach them how addiction can be and how to avoid it. But as of now,I am having plan to just hide it from children and yet let them know what is gambling addiction and how to avoid it.
I think with the presence of computers and smartphones, kids these days will eventually hear about gambling no matter how we tried to evade them from it. But as for now, while their focus is still in school, I am not also letting them know that I am into gambling because that may only confused them. But maybe when the right time comes, and they become responsible adults, I will explain to them about gambling and definitely its effects to a person’s life once it will be overused or become addicted to it.

Our children as a whole are experts handling everything related to computers and smartphones, so it is obvious that they will have access to many things, although they not only have access to certain content, as parents they should always be aware every 5 minutes or less of what they are browsing, this is something that can be controlled, at least if any of the parents neglects it, and the moment he comes across a casino, the parent should explain to him what it is about and that he cannot enter such a site because It's dangerous, it's a potential loss of money for my son, in fact, every time he's on the PC and something like this comes up, I tell him not to go in, it's advertising, and worse things come out.

Gambling for children is quite dangerous for the child's psychological condition, especially if he uses money to gamble from his parents' income. You can find ways to deal with and how to start teaching these children on trusted site below.

https://www.parents.com/parenting/money/teach-kids-gambling-dangers/

That is very interesting information and all parents should see it as soon as they can, however I am a person who when my child is on the internet I am on top of him or her, because I think that a problem such as spending money It is not as serious as that they are obtained in prohibited sites or where there are many pedophile patients, which unfortunately there are many in the world, for now I think that children have many skills for the internet and to be able to do other things on the internet, besides that there are many who are experts with just grasping the devices and manipulating them, it is for this reason that parents should always be present.

majority of gamblers are not playing because they wanted to be entertained but instead to double their money and to find their luck.

But is this actually the reality that they face at thee end? everyone has the intention to make money but not all are making it through gambling, only few have succeeded in playing gamble and have some good return after, parents must know this that they must not let their children got exposed to gambling at early stage, playing games can be an alternative to that but there must be time designated for each to take place.
yes , thats what I mean mate, majority of gamblers are indeed longing for double or even higher from their capital but not anticipating the reality that what they are getting is losses .
but this is not our concern anyway as we are only trying to advice them for what is good and better.

In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.

Well, the truth is that wanting to increase our funds by betting is one of the riskiest things that a person can take to do, in my personal advice to anyone who wants to do that, I do not recommend it, as well as how can you have the fortune to achieve it, the other What is more likely is to lose and possibly lose all the money for it, because everything is usually bet very quickly, sometimes there are people who only use the martingale and that is where they lose the most, that is something they should not do, what It is better that they use the games in the casinos just to have fun and that they have their available balance to lose, not to lose more than what they have available.

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In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.
Many people talk about education and teaching their kid the right and wrong. But I have notices there are some inborn qualities of the kids too
Some kids are hard to deal with - even if you try you cannot teach them what you want to ... they go on their own path. wanting to get lost
Agree!

This is why its not really that accurate or 100% to say that their parents should really be the one to be blamed off specially if their kids do really lost off track or had done something wrong.
it is an old habit that parents must be responsible for what their children might come, because nowadays children can easily take information in internet and making decisions on their own.
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I could say that basing up with real experience which i do see some of my friends family which their parents are really that good when it comes on handling and raising up their child
and both father and mother are really that respectable and something strict when it comes to things which you could really say that their children is been raised up well
but there is one of the family members do really go into other path which is something opposite on which their parents had taught.
there are still of course that parents bring their children in best interest  but those are limited as we enters a computer world, youngsters are coming maturity earlier than we expected .
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In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.
Many people talk about education and teaching their kid the right and wrong. But I have notices there are some inborn qualities of the kids too
Some kids are hard to deal with - even if you try you cannot teach them what you want to ... they go on their own path. wanting to get lost
Agree!

This is why its not really that accurate or 100% to say that their parents should really be the one to be blamed off specially if their kids do really lost off track or had done something wrong.
it is an old habit that parents must be responsible for what their children might come, because nowadays children can easily take information in internet and making decisions on their own.
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I could say that basing up with real experience which i do see some of my friends family which their parents are really that good when it comes on handling and raising up their child
and both father and mother are really that respectable and something strict when it comes to things which you could really say that their children is been raised up well
but there is one of the family members do really go into other path which is something opposite on which their parents had taught.
there are still of course that parents bring their children in best interest  but those are limited as we enters a computer world, youngsters are coming maturity earlier than we expected .
When they decide to have children, it is because people have to abandon all attention towards them, and focus only on their children, having children is not anything, nor is it easy, it is 100% dedication, in fact mothers are the ones who always They will be with their children until the end and they will defend everything, when it comes to the dangers that accessing the Internet can cause, there should be no doubt that parents have to be supervising their children, they cannot leave them alone, many tragedies have happened because parents are so liberal with their children.

Children are the greatest responsibility that can be had, and just as they must control their things, they must get into the world to defend them, and that includes being with them wherever they go, even in casinos, there is no excuse for parents who have children, I can't find it, and if something bad happens it is the parents' total responsibility.

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October 14, 2022, 06:22:38 PM
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having children is not anything, nor is it easy, it is 100% dedication, in fact mothers are the ones who always They will be with their children until the end and they will defend everything, when it comes to the dangers that accessing the Internet can cause, there should be no doubt that parents have to be supervising their children, they cannot leave them alone, many tragedies have happened because parents are so liberal with their children

This topic is broad and also interesting to talk about, parent and their children in gambling, fine and good the mother has the more closer relationship/attention with the children more often than the father who possibly gambles alot and have no time in creating rapport with the children which is a bad habit as a father, although some are not that daft in letting vacant of their role as a father, here sone children are smart enough that their mother may not know what they are upto, some sneaking out with friends, gambling and still yet their mother isn't aware, but a responsible father will know how to caught the children of such habits only if he himself is not guilty from within, that's why training up q child is a collective efforts of both parents.



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October 14, 2022, 06:38:14 PM
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I am having plan to just hide it from children and yet let them know what is gambling addiction and how to avoid it.

Sorry to say this letting them know about it is just as giving them an information that was not in their mind before more of less rekindling the effects of gambling in them. Well your wife could be free to know and as a man your sources of income, way of living should be let known to your wife depending on how understandable your wife seems to be, back to your children. Its a good thing they don't have the idea at their little stage maybe can be controlled at their maturity stage maybe from 19 years up because at this stage they now knew the risk involve while gambling and can mentally and physically controlled it.
That's a wrong perception, it is always good to keep them prepared than making them right after experiencing hard days. What have been said is right, everything needs to be transparent within the family members, but there is an age limit to educate on certain things. This is good, but the present generation can't be handled in such a way.

Recently in my country a small kid playing some game using his parents smartphone have used $10000+ to purchase equipment and other accessories in the game using the parents credit card. What can be done, if we've taught about this earlier this could've been avoided. Rather than age factor I find it is the way how we explain to them.
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Hidding thing does not work at all, they need to understand what it is and be exposed to people who had problems with gambling. Not everyone is prone to excessive gambling nor all people respond equally to gambling, in fact most people can have perfect control about most aspects of their lives and even if they get a bit absorbed, most can rein in an take measures to stop.

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I won't risk my children to delve into gambling for what I know only a few who are capable of making money in that industry because the stories or experiences from relatives and friends, most of them ended up in debt.
The biggest problem they would face is addiction and it is very hard to develop discipline and mental capacity to fight this. I wouldn't like my children getting addicted into something that can ruin their whole life with a low possibility of being successful in the long-term.
Exposing children to gambling is very dangerous once they knew how to gamble it becomes very difficult to curtail them and will be distracted from their school work and might ruined their academic persuit in the long run, personally as a soccer fan I gambled anonymously without exposing it to them thanks to online gambling sites and I never get addicted such I can easily be suspected or detected thus I always guide them and assisted them in their school work, we do watch soccer matches I bet on Television together with them just to know the outcome of my bet but I never let them know my mission  and my wife is also not aware of my gambling activities because I place bet once in a while.

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I will start by saying Micheal Jordan losing $5million in a single night is equivalent to a $300 salary earner losing $3 or less as at 2010 in a single night. The amount of money lost in gambling doesn't really matter what matters is if the loser can afford the loss. What is kicked against mostly in gambling is avoiding risk that could lead to depression and suicide
 


As for Marcus Jordon i will say $50,000 isn't that much to spend on a single night even though he is not up to 21. He must have faced the law after wards but based on his family asset and worth i won't say he squandered money....
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In addition, it will lessen the pain to a very reasonable extent if a gambler also learn to gamble with little amount so that if loss it won't be a regrettable act, atleast gamble with the amount you can afford loosing but not everyone listen or remember this wise saying, also children must have a limitation to having access to a particular amount of money from a certain range, because they can just one day receive an influence from friends that will land them into a casino gambling.
Many people talk about education and teaching their kid the right and wrong. But I have notices there are some inborn qualities of the kids too
Some kids are hard to deal with - even if you try you cannot teach them what you want to ... they go on their own path. wanting to get lost
Agree!

This is why its not really that accurate or 100% to say that their parents should really be the one to be blamed off specially if their kids do really lost off track or had done something wrong.
it is an old habit that parents must be responsible for what their children might come, because nowadays children can easily take information in internet and making decisions on their own.
Quote
I could say that basing up with real experience which i do see some of my friends family which their parents are really that good when it comes on handling and raising up their child
and both father and mother are really that respectable and something strict when it comes to things which you could really say that their children is been raised up well
but there is one of the family members do really go into other path which is something opposite on which their parents had taught.
there are still of course that parents bring their children in best interest  but those are limited as we enters a computer world, youngsters are coming maturity earlier than we expected .
Young people nowadays do really indeed learn up too fast due to accessibility of information through net which is something an advantage or benefit on such innovation or tech but it does really have its con's

where kids or youngsters are really that prone into other things which might trigger out those interest and they would really be that diverted on other which they shouldnt supposed to do so.
So this is where parents role and job would take place, it cant be perfect but at least we are doing our responsibility.

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October 14, 2022, 10:21:23 PM
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There's always a saying that "Focus on what brings YOU joy. Appreciate and do more things that make YOU smile. Live your life for yourself". If gambling is really what makes Micheal Jordan happy, then he's entitled to make him self smile but gambling away a whooping Sume of $50,000 just for a night is really a crazy thing to do. Again introducing children to gambling is really a terrible thing. Aside the case of Micheal Jordan, am also taking example of a guy in my locality who rendered his parents homeless by gambling away their home. If parents are gamblers, I think they should not drag their children into it too. IMO.
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October 14, 2022, 10:30:43 PM
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@Zilon you know rich kids always get away with whatever stunts thy pull and that is the way it is bro, and if you have checked the boy's history, you will discover that this is not the first time he is gotten cut up in such an extravagant lifestyle that is above his present age but he has always enjoyed doing since he enjoys the immunity of his father so there is much anyone can do or say about this situations.

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October 14, 2022, 11:34:15 PM
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I won't risk my children to delve into gambling for what I know only a few who are capable of making money in that industry because the stories or experiences from relatives and friends, most of them ended up in debt.
The biggest problem they would face is addiction and it is very hard to develop discipline and mental capacity to fight this. I wouldn't like my children getting addicted into something that can ruin their whole life with a low possibility of being successful in the long-term.
Exposing children to gambling is very dangerous once they knew how to gamble it becomes very difficult to curtail them and will be distracted from their school work and might ruined their academic persuit in the long run, personally as a soccer fan I gambled anonymously without exposing it to them thanks to online gambling sites and I never get addicted such I can easily be suspected or detected thus I always guide them and assisted them in their school work, we do watch soccer matches I bet on Television together with them just to know the outcome of my bet but I never let them know my mission  and my wife is also not aware of my gambling activities because I place bet once in a while.

Exposing doesn't necessarily mean having our kids engaged in gambling activity directly.  Exposing is like making them aware and giving them a guide on why gambling needs to be moderated or avoided.  It is like exposing the pros and cons of gambling and letting them know the benefits and devastation a gambler can have if they engage in gambling.  One of the reasons why many people got addicted to gambling is the lack of proper exposure to it when they are young.  Due to parents keeping their kids blind about gambling activity, the kids tend to get lost when the time comes that the kids are at the right age and are able to engage in gambling activities legally.  they got the "shock"  due to the unknown effect of gambling which can be avoided if they are guided and get knowledge about gambling when they are young.

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