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November 05, 2022, 03:08:19 AM
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Adolescents usually hate the things their parents are doing, and after twenty most men and women lead a lifestyle that is completely different from their parents'.

I think it depends on the kind of parents they had.  I never hate what my parents had done when I was an adolescent.  In fact, I admire them for their hard work and understanding.  I think the only thing teen ager hates about their parents is being strict.  But then it can be communicated.

What can I say? You've got great parents then, hard working to support you, and understanding, and that is also the support any teenager needs. After all, they weren't gambling addicts, were they?

But that's just your case. You are lucky, mate. Your parents served as a good example for you. In so many cases I know, kids survived only because they were doing the opposite to what there parents were doing. And I mean gambling addiction in the first place. Kids from such families don't want to even hear about gamling, let alone engage with it.
Parents can become a positive example or a negative one, however it is way easier to learn from parents which provide a positive example as the only thing you need to do is to imitate them, however when it comes to learning to not engage in the same behaviors they exhibit, this is way harder, as at first you need to recognize why what they are doing is wrong and then find the inner strength to resist the temptation to do the same, which is why we see so many kids which repeat the same mistakes their parents made.
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November 05, 2022, 10:56:27 AM
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Today I have  learnt a new thing - that is it takes village - it takes the complete trio - society - parents and the teacher to help educate children - -
Some parents are really a good teacher -while the other remain in limbo what to do or what not to do.
Do you think any parents who live in a big city will want to move to village in order to raise their kid? I don't think so, money is more important then child for them, so if they move to village, they can't work in big city again. It's make sense since bad financial is worse than kid grow without his parents.

At least they still can hire an assistant or babysitter in order to teach and raise their kids.

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November 05, 2022, 01:52:00 PM
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Well as we all know, children have to be taught the value of money and that money is earned with the sweat of their brows, sometimes there are parents who have very good purchasing power and are allowed to give their children everything, but you also have to let them know that things are obtained according to the effort that has been made, sometimes it is a mistake to make things so easy for children, and guidance should always be a right that every child should always have, and the responsibility of their parents so that their children are formed as good people and always value the things that they can give them.

The problem for something like this is when we as parents can teach it but we also can't apply it to ourselves, obviously this will be the real problem.
Reflecting on the case given by the OP about Michael Jordan and Marcus Jordan, it is clear that the behavior of parents' lives also affects it because if parents have hedonistic traits then indeed their children will not be far from it even though the child is taught to know the value of money and look for it. quite difficult. Because this kind of education would be better accompanied by examples of parental behavior, not just saying theory, but parents managing and wasting money badly.

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November 05, 2022, 08:27:29 PM
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For father, I can say that he can gamble out his money according to his wish as he knows what he is doing due to his experience. Also, that particular money belongs to him, so we can't impose any restrictions upon him for spending his own money, but as far as they're concerned, teaching the value of money to the children is significant. Also, as per Nevada's state laws, he was underage and legally isn't allowed to drink and gamble, so he was not supposed to do that; the responsibility lies with the parents to prevent him from performing any illegal activity.

day by day, educating children is getting more and more difficult, many parents are no longer able to reach and even educate their children, that is the reality faced by parents in this modern era. but as a parent, it is an obligation that must be carried out because that is the responsibility of having a child. Gambling at an early age is very concerning, keep an eye on your child's circle of friends and even your nephews.
Plus with having the modern and technology today on which most of our works and businesses could really be done via mobile phone or computer then we do seldom talk nor monitor with our children.

Yes, its true that it is really our responsibility as a parent on guiding our children into the right direction but due to circumstances like work or business then it cant really be avoided which we cant
really be able to monitor our children and it is one of the main problems that we do have today.

We cant just trust up these things on a nanny or other guardian.So we should really be thinking up on how we do raise up our children.

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November 05, 2022, 09:06:19 PM
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Well as we all know, children have to be taught the value of money and that money is earned with the sweat of their brows, sometimes there are parents who have very good purchasing power and are allowed to give their children everything, but you also have to let them know that things are obtained according to the effort that has been made, sometimes it is a mistake to make things so easy for children, and guidance should always be a right that every child should always have, and the responsibility of their parents so that their children are formed as good people and always value the things that they can give them.

The problem for something like this is when we as parents can teach it but we also can't apply it to ourselves, obviously this will be the real problem.
Reflecting on the case given by the OP about Michael Jordan and Marcus Jordan, it is clear that the behavior of parents' lives also affects it because if parents have hedonistic traits then indeed their children will not be far from it even though the child is taught to know the value of money and look for it. quite difficult. Because this kind of education would be better accompanied by examples of parental behavior, not just saying theory, but parents managing and wasting money badly.
^Definitely right and you should be their mirror, as a good example during parenting, our child will surely have a good result and probably this was not shown with Michael Jordan to his child Marcus Jordan, instead, he spoiled it, and even though it is not good he still supporting it.
Sometimes I am thinking that probably that is how way rich people treat their loved ones, they are so much busy and don't have time to watch their children during parenthood, and giving money is the only way to show their love and now become the worst which is wasting money.
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day by day, educating children is getting more and more difficult, many parents are no longer able to reach and even educate their children, that is the reality faced by parents in this modern era. but as a parent, it is an obligation that must be carried out because that is the responsibility of having a child. Gambling at an early age is very concerning, keep an eye on your child's circle of friends and even your nephews.

I agree with you that one is supposed to take care of one's children education. I believe part of the problem is that parents in order to keep their children distracted introduce them too early to the internet, so they can stay calm watching anything on YouTube or even Twitch. In the end, in many occasions the internet is what ends up raising the child.
I believe not everyone is suitable to raise a child and should not have one if they are not willing to raise them properly.

Also, it depends on the context and culture, when I visited my family some states away, it was common to see teens and pre-teen playing lottery and cards and parents had no problem, much gambling back then in that hood.

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November 06, 2022, 03:25:06 AM
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Well as we all know, children have to be taught the value of money and that money is earned with the sweat of their brows, sometimes there are parents who have very good purchasing power and are allowed to give their children everything, but you also have to let them know that things are obtained according to the effort that has been made, sometimes it is a mistake to make things so easy for children, and guidance should always be a right that every child should always have, and the responsibility of their parents so that their children are formed as good people and always value the things that they can give them.

The problem for something like this is when we as parents can teach it but we also can't apply it to ourselves, obviously this will be the real problem.
Reflecting on the case given by the OP about Michael Jordan and Marcus Jordan, it is clear that the behavior of parents' lives also affects it because if parents have hedonistic traits then indeed their children will not be far from it even though the child is taught to know the value of money and look for it. quite difficult. Because this kind of education would be better accompanied by examples of parental behavior, not just saying theory, but parents managing and wasting money badly.
^Definitely right and you should be their mirror, as a good example during parenting, our child will surely have a good result and probably this was not shown with Michael Jordan to his child Marcus Jordan, instead, he spoiled it, and even though it is not good he still supporting it.
Sometimes I am thinking that probably that is how way rich people treat their loved ones, they are so much busy and don't have time to watch their children during parenthood, and giving money is the only way to show their love and now become the worst which is wasting money.
for our parents - gambling is a sin and they would die of heart attack if they get to know that their children are gambling.

Your family is really religious. We respect this since we know gambling is also banned in religious countries, which all of us should respect and not say anything about. You should follow what is good for you and your family and not get tempted by it. I am hopeful that you can prevent yourself from committing sin. My parents are allowing me to gamble, but they will still give me advice not to overdo it so that I can still control my losses.
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November 06, 2022, 07:34:25 AM
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Do you think any parents who live in a big city will want to move to village in order to raise their kid? I don't think so, money is more important then child for them, so if they move to village, they can't work in big city again. It's make sense since bad financial is worse than kid grow without his parents.


Bad kids can be raised anywhere, either in the village or in the city as long as they don't get the good parenting they need. A child can be given out to a village and end up being abused and grow up with that mentality, get the wrong impression of people around them and use that sense to communicate with people and the same goes for the city too. However, I think the guy is trying to give priority to society's notion that children that are raised in the village usually come out to be properly raised well when compared to city boys.

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At least they still can hire an assistant or babysitter in order to teach and raise their kids.

I don't know if I am the only one who doesnt like a babysitter the way the world now operates, no matter what the parents do, they should always find ways to make time for the child/children, it stronger the bonds and makes the kids adhere to their ways easily.

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November 06, 2022, 09:02:52 AM
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The problem for something like this is when we as parents can teach it but we also can't apply it to ourselves, obviously this will be the real problem.
Reflecting on the case given by the OP about Michael Jordan and Marcus Jordan, it is clear that the behavior of parents' lives also affects it because if parents have hedonistic traits then indeed their children will not be far from it even though the child is taught to know the value of money and look for it. quite difficult. Because this kind of education would be better accompanied by examples of parental behavior, not just saying theory, but parents managing and wasting money badly.
We fail to apply it on our own so we are only passing it to our kids because they are still young and it was not too late for them to change but some kids are not that obedient to their parents. What they only want to follow is their own self because they like it more than to what is suggested to them.

The lifestyle of the parent can affect the child because they are only living on one roof and it's hard to hide all the action that parents are doing to their kids and even if they try to, their kids are sometimes going to be curious to peek on them and then discover their secrets. I don't know if how mj start but he is now freaking rich. He won't worry anymore so he is only spoiling his kid.

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day by day, educating children is getting more and more difficult, many parents are no longer able to reach and even educate their children, that is the reality faced by parents in this modern era. but as a parent, it is an obligation that must be carried out because that is the responsibility of having a child. Gambling at an early age is very concerning, keep an eye on your child's circle of friends and even your nephews.

I agree with you that one is supposed to take care of one's children education. I believe part of the problem is that parents in order to keep their children distracted introduce them too early to the internet, so they can stay calm watching anything on YouTube or even Twitch. In the end, in many occasions the internet is what ends up raising the child.
I believe not everyone is suitable to raise a child and should not have one if they are not willing to raise them properly.

Also, it depends on the context and culture, when I visited my family some states away, it was common to see teens and pre-teen playing lottery and cards and parents had no problem, much gambling back then in that hood.

I like those words that you use, if you can't be responsible why bother to take the responsibilities of being a parent, it will just messed those kids life, better to learn how to be responsible and prepare yourself to the obligation before taking the responsibilities, though it really a tough job to anyone, but internet is not the good venue to prepare your kids with what kind of world they will going to face when the time comes, it should be the guidance of the parents physically and mentally that will be established in them to be responsible.

Gambling is not the problem in general but the way you respond with gambling is the problem, if you engage too much and get addicted for sure it will ruined your life, but if you are responsible and you are just enjoying, then it serves as pastime for you to relax.

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November 06, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
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The problem for something like this is when we as parents can teach it but we also can't apply it to ourselves, obviously this will be the real problem.
Reflecting on the case given by the OP about Michael Jordan and Marcus Jordan, it is clear that the behavior of parents' lives also affects it because if parents have hedonistic traits then indeed their children will not be far from it even though the child is taught to know the value of money and look for it. quite difficult. Because this kind of education would be better accompanied by examples of parental behavior, not just saying theory, but parents managing and wasting money badly.
We fail to apply it on our own so we are only passing it to our kids because they are still young and it was not too late for them to change but some kids are not that obedient to their parents. What they only want to follow is their own self because they like it more than to what is suggested to them.

The lifestyle of the parent can affect the child because they are only living on one roof and it's hard to hide all the action that parents are doing to their kids and even if they try to, their kids are sometimes going to be curious to peek on them and then discover their secrets. I don't know if how mj start but he is now freaking rich. He won't worry anymore so he is only spoiling his kid.
On the time that you had so much  money as a parent then most of the time we do really miss out those important things that we must do specially on parenting which we had forgotten on how to handle up things

when it comes to parenting.Even the things turns out not to be that good to be shared nor shown into our children but due to casual activity then it did turn out to be just a normal thing into you

which its true that our children would easily mimic and follow out on what we are doing.Considering that you dont have any problems when it comes to finances then doing things is much more simpler.
We know that having more money or financially capable could almost do everything on what they do really have in mind.

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November 06, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
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which its true that our children would easily mimic and follow out on what we are doing.Considering that you dont have any problems when it comes to finances then doing things is much more simpler.
We know that having more money or financially capable could almost do everything on what they do really have in mind.
In all means our children will follow the footsteps of the parents. By the time it is our responsibility to lead them in the right path. Such a mentality should never arise within a child. Financially free could end up in danger, so it is always good to teach them (make them understand how parents are struggling to make money). This will make the children to spend responsibly and know their limits.

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For father, I can say that he can gamble out his money according to his wish as he knows what he is doing due to his experience. Also, that particular money belongs to him, so we can't impose any restrictions upon him for spending his own money, but as far as they're concerned, teaching the value of money to the children is significant. Also, as per Nevada's state laws, he was underage and legally isn't allowed to drink and gamble, so he was not supposed to do that; the responsibility lies with the parents to prevent him from performing any illegal activity.

Parents should be blame the way children handle money. Any child that spends money with no control, I believe the parents  allow such freedom to be so. A child who has a good up bringing will never spend money in a wasteful manner.
Every parent loves their children very much and they want their children to live a good life and their children to get freedom and establish themselves, so many parents give extra financial support to children because of their love and they give them extra financial support.  Believes in children and does not care to keep an eye on them.  Due to which many times children get more money and use that money for various illegal activities. So every parent should be aware and keep an eye on their children so that they get freedom but do not indulge in any kind of vices.


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For father, I can say that he can gamble out his money according to his wish as he knows what he is doing due to his experience. Also, that particular money belongs to him, so we can't impose any restrictions upon him for spending his own money, but as far as they're concerned, teaching the value of money to the children is significant. Also, as per Nevada's state laws, he was underage and legally isn't allowed to drink and gamble, so he was not supposed to do that; the responsibility lies with the parents to prevent him from performing any illegal activity.
Parents should be blame the way children handle money. Any child that spends money with no control, I believe the parents  allow such freedom to be so. A child who has a good up bringing will never spend money in a wasteful manner.
We have seen many cases where a child is allowed to spend money his father gave him without any lessons on how to save his money or use their money for their own good. And his parents always pampered and obeyed their children's wishes. This makes their children arrogant and wants all desires to be achieved immediately, even though it is not necessarily good for them. We certainly don't want to see our children trapped in gambling without a way out, so we must monitor their association well and not just let it go.
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which its true that our children would easily mimic and follow out on what we are doing.Considering that you dont have any problems when it comes to finances then doing things is much more simpler.
We know that having more money or financially capable could almost do everything on what they do really have in mind.
In all means our children will follow the footsteps of the parents. By the time it is our responsibility to lead them in the right path. Such a mentality should never arise within a child. Financially free could end up in danger, so it is always good to teach them (make them understand how parents are struggling to make money). This will make the children spend responsibly and know their limits.
We need to teach our children how to value things and how money is a purchasing power, the thing is.
Most children live to walk in the path of their parents and gambling and financial management must be properly and thoroughly thought through before exposing our kids to them, for this kid to have wasted such huge sums of money on gambling and women one night.

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which its true that our children would easily mimic and follow out on what we are doing.Considering that you dont have any problems when it comes to finances then doing things is much more simpler.
We know that having more money or financially capable could almost do everything on what they do really have in mind.
In all means our children will follow the footsteps of the parents. By the time it is our responsibility to lead them in the right path. Such a mentality should never arise within a child. Financially free could end up in danger, so it is always good to teach them (make them understand how parents are struggling to make money). This will make the children spend responsibly and know their limits.
We need to teach our children how to value things and how money is a purchasing power, the thing is.
Most children live to walk in the path of their parents and gambling and financial management must be properly and thoroughly thought through before exposing our kids to them, for this kid to have wasted such huge sums of money on gambling and women one night.
I think that the parents are responsible for the badness of the child. If a good child is always raised well by his parents, then that child will never go to the bad path. But even if he does, he cannot indulge in bad deeds.  A fear will work in his mind. And the child who has no Sassoon gets involved in many crimes.

What I think is that parents will always be responsible for the actions of their children, because children tend to imitate their parents or those who are very influential in their lives, if they see that their parents do bad acts they will interpret it as good deed to imitate, there is nothing that can evade the responsibility of parents, there will always be some responsibility for them, a good father or mother will not only be aware of their children until they are 18 years old, I have seen how some parents disassociate themselves of their children at the age of 18, having a child is for life, it is something that is acquired for life, it is one of the best commitments in life. When they are minors, everything that happens with the children is the direct responsibility of the parents.

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November 07, 2022, 03:48:04 PM
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when I looked at this thread now I remembered that days ago I have seen very strange things in my city, I see children who are only 6 years old and others who are 8 years old having a cell phone and playing games, and these children spend most of their time days playing on the phone and then without a doubt they will start playing games of chance, because these kids on the phone do research and when they search about games for phone they will find games of chance and as they grow they will enter the world of gambling and they will not talk nothing for parents, I think it's a big risk to give a 7-year-old a phone. in the same way that a parent should not take their child to the world of gambling, this is not a good thing.

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November 07, 2022, 04:02:07 PM
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when I looked at this thread now I remembered that days ago I have seen very strange things in my city, I see children who are only 6 years old and others who are 8 years old having a cell phone and playing games, and these children spend most of their time days playing on the phone and then without a doubt they will start playing games of chance, because these kids on the phone do research and when they search about games for phone they will find games of chance and as they grow they will enter the world of gambling and they will not talk nothing for parents, I think it's a big risk to give a 7-year-old a phone. in the same way that a parent should not take their child to the world of gambling, this is not a good thing.

If you are talking about these kids gambling, it is quite impossible for them to gamble at that young age.  First, they are not qualified to top up in the game.  I haven't seen 6 or 8 yrs. old kids making a top-up in a game nor even these kids have access to any financial processor applications.  No matter how hard they tried, they will end up playing play money and that isn't gambling in its definition.  Probably if these kids get older, but at that age, I doubt they can gamble on a mobile phone.

This is another example of why parents should manage the mobile phones of kids, the should always check them and if possible put a monitoring application so that they will know what sites and what apps their kids are visiting.

What I think is that parents will always be responsible for the actions of their children,

Indeed they will always be and they must be responsible for the action of their children if the kids is in a young age.  But those aged 16 and above have their understanding of the surroundings and I think making parents responsible for these teenagers isn't fair.  They can guide them and teach them but I believe 16 years old has the knowledge and be able to understand and differentiate bad from good.


because children tend to imitate their parents or those who are very influential in their lives, if they see that their parents do bad acts they will interpret it as good deed to imitate, there is nothing that can evade the responsibility of parents, there will always be some responsibility for them, a good father or mother will not only be aware of their children until they are 18 years old, I have seen how some parents disassociate themselves of their children at the age of 18, having a child is for life, it is something that is acquired for life, it is one of the best commitments in life. When they are minors, everything that happens with the children is the direct responsibility of the parents.

Indeed little kids imitate their parents but teenagers have the idea of good deeds and vices unless the person has a mental problem.  I believe it is just a reason for teenagers aged 16 and above to justify their wrong deeds.  I believe people at this age know that gambling is bad but since it is ordinary in their family, they don't bother and keep on gambling.  That is why the responsibility to teach children of good traits and character is primarily on the parents.

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November 07, 2022, 04:10:05 PM
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We need to teach our children how to value things and how money is a purchasing power, the thing is.
Most children live to walk in the path of their parents and gambling and financial management must be properly and thoroughly thought through before exposing our kids to them, for this kid to have wasted such huge sums of money on gambling and women one night.

The point is, don't show something negative to your child, they will imitate it and think it's a good thing because you did it.

I think that the parents are responsible for the badness of the child. If a good child is always raised well by his parents, then that child will never go to the bad path. But even if he does, he cannot indulge in bad deeds.  A fear will work in his mind. And the child who has no Sassoon gets involved in many crimes.

that's true but not all children want to follow in the footsteps of their parents, environmental factors and religious upbringing have an important role in forming a child's mindset.

when I looked at this thread now I remembered that days ago I have seen very strange things in my city, I see children who are only 6 years old and others who are 8 years old having a cell phone and playing games, and these children spend most of their time days playing on the phone and then without a doubt they will start playing games of chance, because these kids on the phone do research and when they search about games for phone they will find games of chance and as they grow they will enter the world of gambling and they will not talk nothing for parents, I think it's a big risk to give a 7-year-old a phone. in the same way that a parent should not take their child to the world of gambling, this is not a good thing.

something like this is also happening in my city, many children under the age of 10 play Scatter Slots, they think it is a normal slot game but they buy chips to play and the money they use is pocket money given by their parents. the role of parents' supervision of their children is important.



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I have noticed the same here, I have seen my neighbor letting her 6-8 years old child to play on her phone so the child can stay entertained.
It is a weird thing to see, considering these new phones we see nowadays could be even bigger than the head of the child itself and the side of those handheld devices are not designed to be held by little children.

The problem is that apps are not how they used to be back in the day, they are not about a one-time purchase anymore, the business model have switched to micro-transactions and even worse: loot-boxes, in games are are supposed to be for everyone.

I can even find on Google Scholar several articles suggesting a link between loot boxes and problem gaming, even mental struggles.

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