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November 09, 2022, 10:19:01 PM
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live at.

I believe this depends on how strong the core value of the person is.  No matter how bad influence his environment if his core value is strong, he can resist this bad influence urging him to do bad things.  And it all goes down to how his parents molded him when he is young.   At the end it is still goes down to parenting.  I have seen people who are surrounded by neighbors with vices but is able to resist those temptation.
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November 09, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live in.
Several factors influence a person's lifestyle but the most powerful among them is the family the person grows into and the kind of environment they find themselves in, It is easy for a child to copy the lifestyle of the parents but it is sometimes minimal what environment contributes and even the environment a child grows into is chosen by the parent because the child can not determine the environment they grow up is the responsibility of the parent before the child was born to find a better environment for their kids.
Well, that really matters. Everyone has a free will and these kids will grow someday and even how good they were raised by their parents, if they're hard-headed and don't listen to them, they'll fall into that trap made by the society and surroundings.
It's not always that we'll be on the side of our parents and we need to go in the outside world for us to see how it's going to be there and we should prepare them on how to deal with the environment.

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November 10, 2022, 08:35:10 AM
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live at.

I believe this depends on how strong the core value of the person is.  No matter how bad influence his environment if his core value is strong, he can resist this bad influence urging him to do bad things.  And it all goes down to how his parents molded him when he is young.   At the end it is still goes down to parenting.  I have seen people who are surrounded by neighbors with vices but is able to resist those temptation.
So after all, it is the role of parents who shape their children into someone who can withstand bad influences and even stay away from them. If parents can teach good things, a child will never try to do bad things because he will think about the risks and consequences. And by continuing to communicate with parents to discuss or share what they get from their environment, a child can filter the bad and the good and only use the good for himself. And if he lives in a bad environment, he will definitely be able to adapt and won't be bad too and instead, he can survive everything because of his good stance.

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November 10, 2022, 07:01:47 PM
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live at.

Indeed, the surrounding affects the most if the kids are fully exposed without any guidance from the parents, even in school you are not safe with whoever is with your kids, so better to make a good relationship with them for you to know their activities, we keep mentioning the technology and part of it is also the community that around our kids, if we want them to grow properly we need to attach ourselves with them.

Making them feel that we are just here and we will listen and understand whatever things they are trying to explore.

One thing of letting them feel that we are guiding them to the right path of life.

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November 10, 2022, 09:40:08 PM
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We are going to be using Micheal Jordan as our case study :

Micheal Jordan gambled away $5 million dollars in one night[1], he is a Billionaire, but that does not remove the fact that that's a hell lots of money to gamble away in just one night, you might want to say he is an adult and a Billionaires, and he is free to spend his money in which ever way he wants - understandable... Now, what about his son?

Marcus Jordan is just 19 years old, he spent a whooping $50,000 dollars in one night in Las Vegas on gambling and drinking in a strip night club[1][2][3], the report shows he threw away $35,000 in gambling while $15,000 went into drinking alcohol and girls in the club, and do not forget that it is illegal to drink and gamble under the age of 21 in the state of Nevada where they live....

The young lad even posted that night's expenditures on his Twitter account where he said , and I quote....
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"Last night was stupid... 35K at Haze," the University of Central Florida sophomore guard said. "Totals 50K something the whole day."
but according to report, the tweet got deleted.

This (from the articles) I believe happened in 2010, but I believe it's a fresh story for those of us getting to know this for the first time,

What do you make out of this story, should we really allow our children to live such a lifestyle like gambling and night clubbing, most especially, when they are still under aged?

Let's discuss about this..



Micheal Jordan is an adult, he is rich and a popular person, he can do what he wants with his money. Although you have a gambling habit, it doesn't mean that you are bad in parenting your children but if you are bad in parenting your children there is a big chances that your child may grow in a wrong direction. As far as we can tell, this is exactly what happened, and the worst part is that it will be very difficult to try to correct this behavior. If he does, his child will always point out that he is being a hypocrite because his father is asking him to stop doing something that he is not willing to stop doing himself.
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November 10, 2022, 09:55:08 PM
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if we want them to grow properly we need to attach ourselves with them.

Making them feel that we are just here and we will listen and understand whatever things they are trying to explore.

One thing of letting them feel that we are guiding them to the right path of life.

I highly agree parent should attached themselves to their kids.  Teach them a good core value and do things that will earn the trust of the kids not only as a parents but also as a friend.  Kids needs confidant and I can say a parent is successful with their parenting if the they became the confidant of their kids.  The thing is kids are most vulnerable to all kinds of vices and bad influence if they are confused.  And the best way to counter this confusion is to have a confidant  that can advise them in the right path.
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November 10, 2022, 10:41:33 PM
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if we want them to grow properly we need to attach ourselves with them.

Making them feel that we are just here and we will listen and understand whatever things they are trying to explore.

One thing of letting them feel that we are guiding them to the right path of life.

I highly agree parent should attached themselves to their kids.  Teach them a good core value and do things that will earn the trust of the kids not only as a parents but also as a friend.  Kids needs confidant and I can say a parent is successful with their parenting if the they became the confidant of their kids.  The thing is kids are most vulnerable to all kinds of vices and bad influence if they are confused.  And the best way to counter this confusion is to have a confidant  that can advise them in the right path.

Parents, from the moment the child is in the womb, from that moment there should be no other reason to fight, as a child grows, values, education and behaviors, discipline and within discipline is the value of doing things well, teaching children the value of money and teaching them that there are things like casinos, that they should not get involved because it is a risk, until they are of legal age, and that is the easiest way for children and parents to maintain a very strong relationship, Thus, respecting the tastes of adults, it is from these foundations that good people are raised and made.

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November 11, 2022, 02:03:43 AM
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I very much respect the decision of some parents to give their children a smartphone, it is something that they can be very bold with certain tools, but I am also part of the fact that a child or adolescent invents many things and it is not the idea that they can do something that causes emotion, and as I have said before in other posts, it is not so much the danger that he enters a casino and plays, but that the child falls into chats with people who are very ill-intentioned, with pedophiles, with many people who make them scare a lot, even persecute them, for me that is much more dangerous, of course both casinos and prohibited sites are something that a child can easily enter, that is where one of the parents should be supervising them.

Good point. What happens is that with the passage of time, we have reached a point where we have to talk about excessive use of the device both from a behavioral and medical point of view, because we realize that when it comes to using these tools some children stop doing other things like socializing with friends or family members, reading a book and even studying, and can negatively impact children’s social lives and academic performance. As a parent, I think this is something very important, so once again I invite parents to talk to their children, to be aware of social networks, because on these platforms there are many people with evil intentions, there are things like cyberbullying and other kinds of ill-treatment that can have a very negative impact on children’s lives.

But we're going too off-topic here, so I'll stop now.  Wink

Well we all know that our children are the best, it is the best gift that God Heavenly Father has given us, that is why we want the best for them, I think that all of us as parents have made many sacrifices as parents and despite everything we continue to do so and with great pleasure, we also want the best for them, in fact I think that many of us work hard so that they never lack anything, and to protect them, and that is our task, to protect is what is most needed and for some this requires facts such as: Supervision and care, this is where the phones, the schedules, and some things that many have said we must do.

I am in favor of children not having to clip their wings, if they want to have access to the internet or something like that they should always have supervision, I think that is the secret and for that we must make time.

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November 11, 2022, 03:25:55 AM
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And you know what it is even more infuriating, the people that create those apps and those devices do not let their kids interact with them and even send them to schools in which it is forbidden to use a phone at all, this should tell us what we need to know about how dangerous are those devices to underage people, and yet many parents do not take the time to think about this as they are too busy with their jobs to give any kind of meaningful attention to their kids.

Reality in life nowadays, parents are too busy to make money in hope that they can provide a better future for their kids, materially they can fill that up but mentally they are forgetting the important part of growing up, proper guidance is at risk since the technology is really emerging and many factors are influencing the young minds of his generations.

I like your comment about those who created such app, but the chance that they are not letting their own kids to play or to use the apps, not sure about that statement.
It may seem difficult to believe but it is the truth, as we know the center of the development of technologies like that is Silicon Valley, and you may think that in the schools near Silicon valley all kind of technology is used on some of the most exclusive and expensive schools you can find, but you will be mistaken, in many of those schools it is forbidden to use any kind of smartphone or similar technology and instead they use the traditional means of learning, and the majority of those which attend those schools are the kids of those which develop those apps and devices.
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November 11, 2022, 10:31:18 AM
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if we want them to grow properly we need to attach ourselves with them.

Making them feel that we are just here and we will listen and understand whatever things they are trying to explore.

One thing of letting them feel that we are guiding them to the right path of life.

I highly agree parent should attached themselves to their kids.  Teach them a good core value and do things that will earn the trust of the kids not only as a parents but also as a friend.  Kids needs confidant and I can say a parent is successful with their parenting if the they became the confidant of their kids.  The thing is kids are most vulnerable to all kinds of vices and bad influence if they are confused.  And the best way to counter this confusion is to have a confidant  that can advise them in the right path.

Parents, from the moment the child is in the womb, from that moment there should be no other reason to fight, as a child grows, values, education and behaviors, discipline and within discipline is the value of doing things well, teaching children the value of money and teaching them that there are things like casinos, that they should not get involved because it is a risk, until they are of legal age, and that is the easiest way for children and parents to maintain a very strong relationship, Thus, respecting the tastes of adults, it is from these foundations that good people are raised and made.

Good values and being guided the right way, I agree that it should be established to the children that behavior and educations before schools should be learned from the parents and the guardians of those kids, with good relationship, it can be learn the proper way and the kids who grows with enough and good attentions will follow the right pattern in life.

Though it can't be generalized because the chance that kids will choose their own roads when they reached adulthood is uncontrollable.

But the fact that as parents, they really build good relationship it will bring good impact on the future life of those kids.

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November 11, 2022, 11:38:18 AM
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live at.

Yes, but we are discussing parents' influence on their kids in regards to gambling. Of course, there can be many other factors to it, like the neighborhood you live in, the school you are going to, the movies and TV shows you watch etc. And sometimes parents can't do much about other influences on you as their kid, especially when they are busy hardworking, but they definitely have to try to not be giving you bad examples. Gambling isn't a bad example by itself, but gambling addiction is.

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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live at.

Yes, but we are discussing parents' influence on their kids in regards to gambling. Of course, there can be many other factors to it, like the neighborhood you live in, the school you are going to, the movies and TV shows you watch etc. And sometimes parents can't do much about other influences on you as their kid, especially when they are busy hardworking, but they definitely have to try to not be giving you bad examples. Gambling isn't a bad example by itself, but gambling addiction is.
There is this saying that goes a friend is a replica of who an individual becomes. Environment, friends and peer group play even stronger role in influencing a kid than their parents. Parents can be the flexible working type who has all the time in the world for their kids but it takes carrying them along when gambling to get them influenced but for age grades and peer group even without direct contact with the kid the just get easily influenced

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There is this saying that goes a friend is a replica of who an individual becomes. Environment, friends and peer group play even stronger role in influencing a kid than their parents. Parents can be the flexible working type who has all the time in the world for their kids but it takes carrying them along when gambling to get them influenced but for age grades and peer group even without direct contact with the kid the just get easily influenced
The influence of parents change as times passes, at the beginning of the life of their children they are incredibly influential as the kid has no say on the decision of their parents, however as time passes this influence begins to go down and reaches a low point when the kid reaches adolescence, that is when their friends can be many more times more influential than their parents, but once that stage of your life is over the influence of your parents begins to go up again as you begin to see how wise they are and you are no longer a teen which believes you know everything there is to know about life.
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I do not think that parents should share their gambling related activities with children. When I was living on rent, there was a family who lived near me. The father left his business and was in full time gambling. He was also into offline gambling and lost a lot of money in this. He almost list his entire life savings into this. He had two sons and he was not able to give them good education and comfortable life because of this.

Both of his sons were also unemployed because of this and they also used to part time jobs and do gambling with the money that was left with them after expenses. So whole family was into gambling and they never cared to save any money and then invest it to grow their business or develop passive sources of income. When you have billions, and you become irresponsible, even then you can loose all the money with such an attitude. I always encourage responsible gaming.
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It all depends on the nature of the person in choosing friends, even though they are in a gambler's family environment, even though each child has a different nature but the role of friends in the social environment can affect a person, even though there is a term (fruit doesn't fall far from the tree) that term sometimes often pinned by people, to be the family of the gambler, the role of friends in life can be good or vice versa so it all depends on how they choose friends in their environment..
Being surrounded by bad influence friends can influence a person even if he or she grew into a good environment in their family. That's really something to be thought about in terms of behavioral process as everyone is learning new things not only from their parents, from the technology but mostly, from the surroundings and neighborhood they live in.
Several factors influence a person's lifestyle but the most powerful among them is the family the person grows into and the kind of environment they find themselves in, It is easy for a child to copy the lifestyle of the parents but it is sometimes minimal what environment contributes and even the environment a child grows into is chosen by the parent because the child can not determine the environment they grow up is the responsibility of the parent before the child was born to find a better environment for their kids.
Mate. It's understandable that someone copy most of it character through the environment it found itself, it's very difficult to see a child that will not behavior or act like people who living within the surrounding, a child adopt the characteristics of the parents because of they are living together, so ecosystem after the behavior's of anyone around it. If a father of a house hold is a Gambler and the mother or the wife knows that the husband is a gambler, theirs every tendency that the children will grow up being a gambler, because the discussion wining and lost in gambling is processing in their brain as information.
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November 14, 2022, 11:57:08 AM
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There is this saying that goes a friend is a replica of who an individual becomes. Environment, friends and peer group play even stronger role in influencing a kid than their parents. Parents can be the flexible working type who has all the time in the world for their kids but it takes carrying them along when gambling to get them influenced but for age grades and peer group even without direct contact with the kid the just get easily influenced
The influence of parents change as times passes, at the beginning of the life of their children they are incredibly influential as the kid has no say on the decision of their parents, however as time passes this influence begins to go down and reaches a low point when the kid reaches adolescence, that is when their friends can be many more times more influential than their parents, but once that stage of your life is over the influence of your parents begins to go up again as you begin to see how wise they are and you are no longer a teen which believes you know everything there is to know about life.

Yes, indeed, the children along the way will develop other ideas when maturities come up, but the parent should always be there to continue the guidance for their children. Even there are influences from the new friends that they might acquire from the community or from the school. As long as the bond is still with their parents, the chance of them not to fall into any gambling addiction is high.

Case to case though, and it will still be on how the children will choose a path when they already have that chance to choose one for themselves.

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November 14, 2022, 06:59:30 PM
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There is this saying that goes a friend is a replica of who an individual becomes. Environment, friends and peer group play even stronger role in influencing a kid than their parents. Parents can be the flexible working type who has all the time in the world for their kids but it takes carrying them along when gambling to get them influenced but for age grades and peer group even without direct contact with the kid the just get easily influenced
The influence of parents change as times passes, at the beginning of the life of their children they are incredibly influential as the kid has no say on the decision of their parents, however as time passes this influence begins to go down and reaches a low point when the kid reaches adolescence, that is when their friends can be many more times more influential than their parents, but once that stage of your life is over the influence of your parents begins to go up again as you begin to see how wise they are and you are no longer a teen which believes you know everything there is to know about life.

Yes, indeed, the children along the way will develop other ideas when maturities come up, but the parent should always be there to continue the guidance for their children. Even there are influences from the new friends that they might acquire from the community or from the school. As long as the bond is still with their parents, the chance of them not to fall into any gambling addiction is high.

Case to case though, and it will still be on how the children will choose a path when they already have that chance to choose one for themselves.
It does really depend on how you do raise up your children considering that relation in between or bond on parents into their children is really important.Even their children had been exposed into those external

possible influences but as long they had been guided well by their parents or guardians then they are making themselves at least aware on what they are dealing.
Some might not able to do so or failed on  doing the right decision but its totally different into those  children which hadnt been guided by their parents well.
There's a significant different in between children who had been taught well and not.This is why its really important on guiding your children at least on what are the things around.
Whether it is really about gambling or any other things which could potentially make some huge effect into their lives ahead.This is why its really that important
and something shouldnt really be forgotten to be told.

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Well whatever the child Portraits, it is  very clear he must have learnt it from his father which in my own opinion is not good.

Gambling is a habit that is hard to stop so exposing your gambling habit to your child is really not the right thing to be doing as a father..i know eventually the child have his own life to live but you as a parent should be a guide to that part.

In the case of Jordan and his son maybe that's just a pumpus show of wealth and every teenage spoilt brat with  his leverage
will do something similar to that or exactly that

We as parents should always try to see that our offspring should never see the bad part of us and we should try to cover our bad habits from them.

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November 14, 2022, 08:15:20 PM
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I do not think that parents should share their gambling related activities with children. When I was living on rent, there was a family who lived near me. The father left his business and was in full time gambling. He was also into offline gambling and lost a lot of money in this. He almost list his entire life savings into this. He had two sons and he was not able to give them good education and comfortable life because of this.

Both of his sons were also unemployed because of this and they also used to part time jobs and do gambling with the money that was left with them after expenses. So whole family was into gambling and they never cared to save any money and then invest it to grow their business or develop passive sources of income. When you have billions, and you become irresponsible, even then you can loose all the money with such an attitude. I always encourage responsible gaming.

Kids you see are very inquisitive, you think they are not watching what the parents are doing but deep within, they are smart and know whatever the parent does including the ones they hide especially if they fail to take responsibility at home, they always know.
If a parent must gamble, it is their wish but they should try and make sure they don't fail at parenting else if the kids feel heat and difficulties, they will also want to engage in gambling they know their parents are doing which is very bad, kids aren't supposed to be exposed to gambling unless they have come of 18 years old and even at that, it should be done responsibly.

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November 14, 2022, 09:47:23 PM
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Well whatever the child Portraits, it is  very clear he must have learnt it from his father which in my own opinion is not good.

Gambling is a habit that is hard to stop so exposing your gambling habit to your child is really not the right thing to be doing as a father..i know eventually the child have his own life to live but you as a parent should be a guide to that part.

In the case of Jordan and his son maybe that's just a pumpus show of wealth and every teenage spoilt brat with  his leverage
will do something similar to that or exactly that

We as parents should always try to see that our offspring should never see the bad part of us and we should try to cover our bad habits from them.
In this aspect of our discussion and our judgement concerning children and their parents between gambling performance and activities, it is very clear but any child that is with the parents and the parents is evolving into gambling is very understandable that is the child the way about the system of the father and gambling because that is what they do in their household so children like to emulate things for the parents

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