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October 02, 2022, 05:28:02 PM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
I think other than having an adequate time, a core gambler also have a good knowledge, skills and a good amount of capital. In short they are more superior than a common gambler. Playing gambling only for the sake of being entertained is not wrong and it's also not money consuming so feel free to include this in your monthly budget but if ever my country banned gambling then obviously I will follow the rules because I am not one of those who are desperate and will do risky things only to get the things that they wanted. I don't think online casinos are accessible because our ISPs will also banned it. Maybe some can use a VPN but it's still risky.

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October 02, 2022, 06:07:27 PM
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-   We know that something that we are used to is still prohibited, but we will do and we will still find a way to accomplish what our body and passion are used to.

They say it's good to do what is forbidden hehe. So there is no country where even if it is prohibited, there is no illegal happening, but all countries have illegal happenings, the fact is that at some point it will never be solved because the individual is the one who makes the way to do it.

So you actually admitted the fact that to do illegal things is easier achieved than the good and useful deeds, gambling actually can be forbidden if outlawed and gone extreme in causing dangers and manners of abuses, this are the things we all contributes right from our end in gambling.

The saying "another person's food is another person's poison" just came to mind because of what you said. No matter how many restrictions and bans are placed on anything, people will always find a way to do it in a way that makes them happy. I don't see any reason why the government would want to outlaw gambling while allowing people to consume alcohol freely, that doesnt make too much sense to some extent but the limitation is not bad at all, hence I think that is why we have the age as a yardstick in gambling in most countries.

Ban is not a barrier for gamblers to go to an extent in doing things both in the legal and illegal ways, they never mind regretting some steps after taking the actions, but government uas it power to exercise authority in implementing policies to gambling ethics, many have face the law because of violation of the rules surrounding it.

Government is always powerful that no one can defeat,  if government bans citizens from playing gambling,  citizens can't stop government.  The best thing to do is to stay alway from physical gambling and stay stick to online gambling which no one will know if one is gambling.

We have a lot of online gambling, and thanks to cryptocurrencies that allow transactions without credit cards and banks, you can play and remain anonymous unless the casino is aware of the restriction put in place in your country and may want to flag your IP address, but even then, we have Tor and VPN that you can use to play casinos that don't require KYC. You can see that the government can be bypassed though it may be tagged as an illegal activity.


Past are the days when casinos only exist in physical locations across every region, but thanks to development of technology that has served us well with online ones, with this no amount of government restriction could deter gamblers from enjoying the sweetness in this opportunity because we have no KYC casinos that can maintain your privacy with them.

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October 02, 2022, 06:42:53 PM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
I think other than having an adequate time, a core gambler also have a good knowledge, skills and a good amount of capital. In short they are more superior than a common gambler. Playing gambling only for the sake of being entertained is not wrong and it's also not money consuming so feel free to include this in your monthly budget but if ever my country banned gambling then obviously I will follow the rules because I am not one of those who are desperate and will do risky things only to get the things that they wanted. I don't think online casinos are accessible because our ISPs will also banned it. Maybe some can use a VPN but it's still risky.

I will also follow your opinion, though I sometimes enjoy betting with some of my favorite sports but if that being declared not to be legal anymore I will follow that rules, I understand that there are someone who really into this kind of vices and they will try harder just to continue gambling even the government prohibit any participation from anyone residing from their jurisdictions.

Some may use VPN, which adds another risk aside from the gambling itself. You don't know when the gambling site will declare it illegal and they will freeze the account.

The adjustment always depends on how a gambler takes the responsibilities over the risk that he might be facing after.

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October 02, 2022, 07:41:54 PM
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My country prohibits gambling. but gambling is quite rampant around where I live. So I conclude that gambling addicts are not affected by the law imposed by the local government. why this is so the reason is because taxes are the main thing that is the benchmark for gambling houses to run their business. So don't be surprised if we are active gamblers if the law is strictly enforced then there are still options we can do to gamble by playing secretly and of course you know how if you don't want to be caught by the authorities. so all actions must have risks and especially gambling which is an act that is not liked by some people.

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October 03, 2022, 02:44:23 AM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
Gambling is still considered illegal in many countries. But many citizens of that country are gambling. No government can control it. In this case, the government of many countries have restrict those gambling sites, but users are still gambling using VPN. If someone enjoys gambling then no one can stop him. And if one thinks that he will not gamble, that too depends on himself. In this case whatever a gambler himself thinks best will be effective.

If you are right, some countries that are prohibited have a fairly frequent use of online casinos, however, very few online casinos are those that allow the use of VPN, although it really seems to me something very absurd, as I have said before, and in previous threads, in casinos or crypto - casinos, are designed so that we can play with crypto, but crypto gives economic, financial freedom, and gives the fastest deposits that we can experience over the services offered by a simple bank, then this VPN It should be accepted in all casinos and you shouldn't cause so much trouble for it, comply with KYC and accept VPN, you can't ask for more.

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
I think other than having an adequate time, a core gambler also have a good knowledge, skills and a good amount of capital. In short they are more superior than a common gambler. Playing gambling only for the sake of being entertained is not wrong and it's also not money consuming so feel free to include this in your monthly budget but if ever my country banned gambling then obviously I will follow the rules because I am not one of those who are desperate and will do risky things only to get the things that they wanted. I don't think online casinos are accessible because our ISPs will also banned it. Maybe some can use a VPN but it's still risky.

I will also follow your opinion, though I sometimes enjoy betting with some of my favorite sports but if that being declared not to be legal anymore I will follow that rules, I understand that there are someone who really into this kind of vices and they will try harder just to continue gambling even the government prohibit any participation from anyone residing from their jurisdictions.

Some may use VPN, which adds another risk aside from the gambling itself. You don't know when the gambling site will declare it illegal and they will freeze the account.

The adjustment always depends on how a gambler takes the responsibilities over the risk that he might be facing after.
In my country gambling is already illegal -and there are punishments and there are strict laws for the gambling
But the gambling market is on fire - people are gambling online and they are finding ways to dodge the concerned authorities and on the other side they are bringing huge revenue to the country

Well, this is like what I always say, a government can't put its hands in people's pockets, it's very unfair and there comes a time when people don't stop either, just as they're doing, people won't follow' There are government orders, except when it comes to money, fun, I'm sure that since gambling there is illegal, if government entities enter those places to play those are the things that cannot be conceived, it is not that it be an act of irreverence against the rules, but you can't abuse power either, I say that these things are abuse of power, then they can manage an entire town some time later, making them enforce mandatory KYC to have total control.

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October 03, 2022, 03:33:55 AM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

In my case, I would give it up, as I only gamble from time to time. It wouldn't cost me much to quit, unlike people we see commenting on this board.

This would not put an end to gambling because in places where it is banned it is not eradicated, it is simply controlled by mafias instead of being supervised by governments.

In my country gambling is already illegal -and there are punishments and there are strict laws for the gambling
But the gambling market is on fire - people are gambling online and they are finding ways to dodge the concerned authorities and on the other side they are bringing huge revenue to the country

Here is an example of what I was saying, which can be applied to other sectors such as drugs or prostitution.

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October 03, 2022, 03:49:10 AM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
I believe that there is no need for complete stopping , instead what I think is just to gamble for fun , remember that there are reasons why we gamble and that is some wanted to Win and Earn while others wanted to have fun and at least try their luck to win.
if you wanted to become rich in gambling then that should change because of the banning because if ever you won big and being caught?surely you will regret everything.
but if it is just for fun then  I believe we should continue at least once a week or little lower.

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October 03, 2022, 04:02:48 AM
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 never break any Laws or Rules, meaning if time comes that our country does not support gambling anymore? then i will surely follow and will convert my activities in trading or at least online gaming?
with all the chances of enjoyment why need to break some rules just to be contented?

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October 03, 2022, 06:35:25 AM
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A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?
If the government of a country makes something illegal it is the duty of the citizen of that country not to do or avoid it. Because the government always thinks good thoughts for the people of its country. Moreover if one still wants to continue gambling he can because now one can access any restricted site using VPN. But it is risky. Basically, addicted gamblers will try their best to continue gambling under any circumstances.

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October 03, 2022, 07:35:36 AM
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You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
  A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

many advantages that online gambling sites have, whenever we can come and go without anyone knowing it, even simply with a cigarette and a cup of coffee we can enjoy the game only with the grip of our smart phone and of course it doesn't spend a lot of capital as a supporting factor  other.  Therefore, it doesn't matter if the government prohibits and enforces laws for anyone who visits gambling houses while there are still online sites that we can of course still access.

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October 03, 2022, 11:26:30 AM
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never break any Laws or Rules, meaning if time comes that our country does not support gambling anymore? then i will surely follow and will convert my activities in trading or at least online gaming?
with all the chances of enjoyment why need to break some rules just to be contented?

You seems to be a very good citizen Smiley Leaving gambling might be easy for those who are not really enjoying the fun part of gambling or for those who use it as a professional job (poker players and sports bettors), but it can be really hard to leave gambling for those who have been enjoying it for years. As I said before in many other thread, gambling is illegal in my country (it was legal years ago) but there are still many people gamble now. Frankly speaking I have no idea why some countries consider gambling as illegal or as a crime, if the reason is solely related to religion (sin), I cant really accept this reason since religion is a privacy and sin is a about ourselves in connection with the God.
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October 03, 2022, 01:38:58 PM
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never break any Laws or Rules, meaning if time comes that our country does not support gambling anymore? then i will surely follow and will convert my activities in trading or at least online gaming?
with all the chances of enjoyment why need to break some rules just to be contented?


That's the best thing to do. Going against government laws is always dangerous that can lead one to seriously penalised. Online gambling is the best alternative to keep on gambling going. Breaking government laws can always leads to jail.

So many things that are illegal in the past but was legalized after several years, Whiskey is just one. Same with legal things that were ilegalized like cocaine.
Gambling is likely not one that I would see being banned in my country.  I don't see people will also  stop gambling even if its banned. Even the Chinese in the mainland sure will still be gambling but only taboo especially in the rural areas. 

Once people sees there is a way to get around with the law, they will start gambling. The government will have a lot to do with online gambling if they are to really ban it.

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That's the best thing to do. Going against government laws is always dangerous that can lead one to seriously penalised. Online gambling is the best alternative to keep on gambling going. Breaking government laws can always leads to jail.
Yes, we can still play without violating any rules that can harm our reputation because I believe that it will never be banned, there will be some online gambling that we can still play. Just don't risk too much to a game.
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October 03, 2022, 02:24:32 PM
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never break any Laws or Rules, meaning if time comes that our country does not support gambling anymore? then i will surely follow and will convert my activities in trading or at least online gaming?
with all the chances of enjoyment why need to break some rules just to be contented?

Agreed but some people may already addicted with gambling. They will be feeling so difficult to not play gambling. I guess they can start to decrease their intensity to play gambling but this might be so hard for them.
You can replace your gambling activites with another activity easily but it seems like there are others who feel so difficult to do that.
I will have the same thought with you and dealing with regulators have become the worst thing that can be done by gamblers. They must try to avoid to deal with regulators

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October 03, 2022, 02:32:50 PM
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I think you should know that your ISP can track your online activities and they know if you are visiting gambling sites on your cell phone and computer. They can give this data to the government anytime if they feel like or if the government demands it. So i hope you are using a paid VPN and you know all the tips and tricks to hide your identity online. It's still not safe to play gambling online if the government had banned it already.
luckily I still haven't had a problem even though I only use cloudflare VPN when opening crypto gambling sites through my smartphone and laptop

I know for sure that my online activities have the potential to be tracked, but because I only use small capital, the authorities don't really care lol

It really depends upon the government, how much they are serious about catching the people who are gambling illegally, and usually the amount which you use to gamble should not matter.

Either the government does not know that you are a gambler or they don't have plans to actively caught people gambling, otherwise, they would have come to you irrespective that you gamble with small amounts.

We should not forget that the authorities have more serious problems to solve which they spend their time and money. The gambler does not bring significant problems to the state, so it is impractical to spend effort on tracking it. Of course there can be demonstrative processes for intimidation, but I do not think that this will make gamblers completely stop gambling.

In addition, do not forget that gambling can be played not only in land or online casinos. I'm sure that in every country there are illegal casinos where law enforcement agencies can't get in.

It would be a waste if the government will pour too much resources just to track down these gamblers just to impose the the new rule/law, it would be an expensive mistake because as said above, there are way more problems that needs to be prioritized that are more harmful to the people and its government. Instead of prohibiting it from the use of public, the government should just take advantage of it by taking taxes. They cannot just hunt everybody down as these days, people are way more clever than the authorities and there's VPN that can be used.

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October 03, 2022, 04:56:49 PM
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It would be a waste if the government will pour too much resources just to track down these gamblers just to impose the the new rule/law, it would be an expensive mistake because as said above, there are way more problems that needs to be prioritized that are more harmful to the people and its government. Instead of prohibiting it from the use of public, the government should just take advantage of it by taking taxes. They cannot just hunt everybody down as these days, people are way more clever than the authorities and there's VPN that can be used.
The government cannot do anything in this concern. They might shut down that site in that country. But this will not be effective because at this stage people are very much efficient they can use same site by another name or use vpn. Rather if the government think of taxation or any other profitable thought that is better for them.

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October 03, 2022, 05:02:59 PM
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 Even though the government wants to take tracking of gamblers serious, wasting their resources, there are some casinos that will be left out maybe because it is owned by top government officials or rich business men who are in the government.

 They can buy the government over not to track any activities of their casinos customers. Wars are there,inflations and so many huge problems to tackle. Gambling has been there since history of creation. As for me,I will gamble secretly because gambling is fun.

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October 03, 2022, 05:20:57 PM
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Even though the government wants to take tracking of gamblers serious, wasting their resources, there are some casinos that will be left out maybe because it is owned by top government officials or rich business men who are in the government.

 They can buy the government over not to track any activities of their casinos customers. Wars are there,inflations and so many huge problems to tackle. Gambling has been there since history of creation. As for me,I will gamble secretly because gambling is fun.
I think almost all of us gamble secretly because gambling does not need to involve any party. We bet on impulse that we really want to do it, not because someone is forcing it. Once again, it is necessary to pay attention to gambling as long as it does not harm others and as long as you can control wisely how gambling also needs to be managed as much as possible. Do it for your own good, not out of an ambition to get rich quickly. Gambling is still a game, therefore gambling should be enjoyed not used as a means to earn the main income. Gambling does not always have to win, even when you lose but are able to control your emotions, knowing when to stop then you are still a winner.

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October 03, 2022, 06:23:36 PM
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Ban is not a barrier for gamblers to go to an extent in doing things both in the legal and illegal ways, they never mind regretting some steps after taking the actions, but government uas it power to exercise authority in implementing policies to gambling ethics, many have face the law because of violation of the rules surrounding it.

I can't say for sure if you are contradicting or in support but I know that a ban is something that is illegal, it never was supposed to exist and if found with anyone will be brought to justice, so if a circular has been passed around that gambling is prohibited, both the player and the casino has to stop with immediate effect, if at all it is a physical casino, it will be shut down and you will never see anyone in that surrounding, the same thing applicable to online casino, if its a very strict country, they will go to any length to work with Internet providers to block any incoming IP address that is trying to connect because they are the who controls the internet network.
A limitation is another thing, and most often than not, the age is what the government use as a requirement to reduce abuse in gambling, you will see most of the time 18+ as a requirement in most casino before a player can play.

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Past are the days when casinos only exist in physical locations across every region, but thanks to development of technology that has served us well with online ones, with this no amount of government restriction could deter gamblers from enjoying the sweetness in this opportunity because we have no KYC casinos that can maintain your privacy with them.

The moment you signed up to any casino, know that you have already broken your privacy, you don't have much to protect but you can minimize it to some extent with a VPN, if they don't require KYC, you can preserve your privacy with it and we do have casino Blackjack.fun as an example who don't request KYC unless they observe a player has been cheating.

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October 03, 2022, 08:19:18 PM
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Past are the days when casinos only exist in physical locations across every region, but thanks to development of technology that has served us well with online ones, with this no amount of government restriction could deter gamblers from enjoying the sweetness in this opportunity because we have no KYC casinos that can maintain your privacy with them.

The moment you signed up to any casino, know that you have already broken your privacy, you don't have much to protect but you can minimize it to some extent with a VPN, if they don't require KYC, you can preserve your privacy with it and we do have casino Blackjack.fun as an example who don't request KYC unless they observe a player has been cheating.
In this case, there are still many people who leave casinos that do apply KYC and actually for now there are still many sites that can still be used without having to give them KYC.
In this case many people still agree because KYC is still not very profitable especially for those who gamble with small money but it may be a different story when gambling with big money.

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