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September 30, 2022, 10:50:32 AM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.

Pass Line/Come Bets = You win if the dice roll 7 or 11, lose if it's 2, 3, or 12.

Don't Pass/Don't Come Bets = You win if the dice roll 2, 3, 12, lose if it's 7 or 11.

But there's more in the game when it's any roll that's not a 2, 3, 7, 11 or 12.

This is a short introduction about the basics of Craps, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsSpNm_iCw

This is a longer version about the basics of Craps, and how to play Craps, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6i5SkIn2VY

Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

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Jay Bean, a Caesar's floor manager, agreed to sit down with us and talk about the games with the best odds.

He said many people don't realize that table games have much better odds than slots. They are intimidated by thoughts of card sharks taking their money, with images of an intense Texas Hold 'Em tournament in their minds, and so they stick with the safe games: the slots.

But they are doing themselves a disservice, he said.

Bean's advice?

1. Blackjack

Blackjack has the best odds of winning, with a house edge of just 1 percent in most casinos, Bean said.

Plus, you are playing against only the dealer, not hooded poker champions.

"Blackjack is one of our easiest games to play," Bean said. "You're just looking for a number that beats the dealer's number without going over 21."

If you're a novice, Bean said to sit down during a less busy time, such as the afternoon, and the dealer will walk you through the game.

But the same is not true with poker: You should practice the game with your friends first, at home, Bean said, until you are comfortable with it. Bean said novices are best off passing on the poker tables, where yes, the competition can be tough.

2. Craps

So from the Blackjack table, he suggests moving on to the dice game Craps, the game with the second best odds, also nearly 50-50.

The Craps table can be a bit intimidating for the beginner with all the boxes on the table, Bean admitted. But it's really not tough, and it has one of your best chances of winning. In the end, all you are really doing is betting on a dice roll.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/before-you-go-gambling-the-best-and-worst-casino-game-odds


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September 30, 2022, 12:04:32 PM
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If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

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September 30, 2022, 12:23:48 PM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.
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September 30, 2022, 01:14:44 PM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

I love playing Blackjack and always to to play by those charts as that in the long run gives you the best chance of being a consistent winnr. It's really hard to play what is considered "by the book" at a table where other players are playing terribly though, so you have to be aware of the players around you and decide if you want to stay at that table or try to find a better group to play with. Most casinos online and live usually have multiple table.

Your view on poker I 100% agree with. You control your fate more in poker.

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September 30, 2022, 01:47:12 PM
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BJ is completely random. You can see online guides that show the best percentage chance of winning at each number that you and the dealer have. These are called hit or stand charts, but they're just a guideline like the ones in poker where they tell you what you should do, but I've seen plenty of rounds where I had 19 or 20 and the dealer got 21. I've also played games of BJ where the dealer got above 19 multiple times in a row. It's still a game of chance that gives you a greater feeling of control than slots roulette, but not as much control as poker.

So far I still play Blackjack and regularly I always try it 2x a week. Although not very good at guessing because getting 21 points against the house we will always be played with. It's just that when I think about it, I get a higher win rate in Blackjack. For that some games like Roulette and Craps I still don't like fully. In Blackjack when we have been getting 21 points continuously the ambition is to double the bet. The higher the multiple, the bigger we are toyed with. Now, what I often do is fix the win, which is every 3 or 4 times I get 21 points, which means I cash out, even if I lose 3 - 4 times.

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Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.

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September 30, 2022, 01:58:14 PM
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Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.

Fair point. This is the pros and cons on gambling. Low house edge games provides 1:1 or lesser/a little bit high reward and it’s perfect for players that want a play safe strategy while most of the high house edge games provides high risk high reward and perfect gamblers that wants one time big time win.

In gambling, playing faster to win big is the best to eliminate human error such as impatience that usually trigger the common mistakes of gambler to lose all there bank roll no matter how low the house edge is.

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September 30, 2022, 02:09:58 PM
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I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available.

Even we don't know these games? Just play on those because of the low house edge?

I think for that kind of the reason I will disagree with you.

Didn't you know that I already experienced lots of times winning in slots? Those stunning graphics when we hit that multipliers or bonus are really exciting as we can expect that a big win is coming for a high chance. I don't play Blackjack because of my small knowledge of the game. Dice seems simple to me. Playing roulette only to play on specific picks seems boring.

I will play based on my own factor disregarding the house edges and RTPs.

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September 30, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
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to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.
I have tried several games on online gambling sites, the three types of games as you mentioned above such as: Roullette, Craps as well as BlackJack I have tried, it's a common game that people have played, I dare say those three games the average member here has ever tried to play.
Like: Roullette, I don't play method (black and red) I play three at high house 2x/orange, 2x/white and 14x/yellow.

I'm sure every online crypto casino on this forum provides craps table games, it's the type of casino game that has a thrill of excitement and tension, unfortunately i'm always unlucky in betting dice coming out is dice unlucky for me never coming out good dice for me Craps is the worst rolling game I've ever played.

But I don't blame Craps casino addicts, maybe some gamblers have strategy and hockey in the game, but not for me.

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It might good for gamblers who only want to increase his wager amount to achieve higher ranks, but if you're participating a contest or event where mostly the requirement of the contest or event are mostly slots, you can't play those games.

I personally gambling more frequently when I join a contest or event, for free play, I will play a games that make me fun, not looking for a games with very low house edge. It's just not good for me if I gamble not for fun.

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Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more Sad I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss Sad

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money Sad


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If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.


You're right, I'm sorry, but I was merely making a viewpoint that it might be better for the plebs like us to play just the casino games with the lower house edge, than to play games that might definitely end them in a bad path. I'm adding more information to the OP, and I will continue to edit and add again.

I also removed Roulette from the OP, the house edge is more than 2% from the information I saw.

If anyone has more casino games to add with low house edge, post them.

Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more Sad I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss Sad

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money Sad


Good advice! That's why, IF YOU, or SOMEONE, wants to gamble in a casino, which games should they choose? The casinos games with lower house edge. Cool

Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.


Lower house edge = lesser percentage of loss relative to your capital. It's just an advice, but if you want to play any casino game with higher house edge for fun, no one can stop you.

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October 01, 2022, 09:20:14 AM
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If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.


You're right, I'm sorry, but I was merely making a viewpoint that it might be better for the plebs like us to play just the casino games with the lower house edge, than to play games that might definitely end them in a bad path. I'm adding more information to the OP, and I will continue to edit and add again.


Looks a lot better after the edits. I would still move the topic to gambling discussion, but other then that it looks much better. Craps has so many betting aspects, you have to give users somewhat of a tutorial or they will just be wasting their money and not knowing how to play.

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Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more Sad I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss Sad

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money Sad


Good advice! That's why, IF YOU, or SOMEONE, wants to gamble in a casino, which games should they choose? The casinos games with lower house edge. Cool

...

From my point of view, I don't play for "earn" or thinking that I can won some good amounts from my casino games. I don't have the expectation to have some return, so since I am just playing for the fun so "any" games is suitable.... basic have the right mindset and a defined budget. I find very boring slots, definitely more fun BlackJack or Roulette.
However for a "high roller" or a player that wager a lot, it's always important have a look on house edge!

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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.

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In gambling, playing faster to win big is the best to eliminate human error such as impatience that usually trigger the common mistakes of gambler to lose all there bank roll no matter how low the house edge is.
Agreed. It's very, very difficult to stay patient in the gambling world. This is why I personally prefer yolo gambling in the short sessions when compared to utilising gambling strategies for longer sessions.

Lower house edge = lesser percentage of loss relative to your capital. It's just an advice, but if you want to play any casino game with higher house edge for fun, no one can stop you.
Low house edge games do help slow down your losses and help extend player sessions which is why your advice is helpful for sure though I place more emphasis on the fun aspect.

Truthfully, most gamblers focus on the fun aspect disregarding the house edge completely.

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October 02, 2022, 01:14:13 PM
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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.
Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.


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October 02, 2022, 02:29:12 PM
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I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available.

Even we don't know these games? Just play on those because of the low house edge?

I think for that kind of the reason I will disagree with you.

Didn't you know that I already experienced lots of times winning in slots? Those stunning graphics when we hit that multipliers or bonus are really exciting as we can expect that a big win is coming for a high chance. I don't play Blackjack because of my small knowledge of the game. Dice seems simple to me. Playing roulette only to play on specific picks seems boring.

I will play based on my own factor disregarding the house edges and RTPs.
Those games are not even hard to understand. I think they are the most basic games when it comes to casino gambling. Those games do also exist offline so many people are already aware on what they look like or on how to place a bet on them. They are perfect for plebs or common people without have a special knowledge.

What is better with them is that they have the lowest house edge but each of us has their own favourites. Once we try some games we can make a judgment if we like them and if we will continue playing on them so it's fine if you don't like the three games offered by the op. Just continue playing with your slots.

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We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.


As far as my experience tell me, any luck based game will give us random result.  No matter how high the house edge is, especially in slots.  House edge is countered by RTP, wherein after several losses, a script where you can get a huge winning bet will appear.  Though how to trigger that RTP is somehow alien to me  Grin

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If we do this kind of strategy, it may evade the house edge but we are also missing the RTP, besided since it is a game of chance, there is a huge possibility that we can get busted even before any of the two triggered.


If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.

I agree, the difference between the percentage will come visible in the long run.  If we are used to playing in Dice with 98.5% of winning, we can see that in a long time playing, the red streak become obvious and continue to become frequent the longer we spend time rolling.

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