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October 31, 2022, 06:18:40 AM
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Although, a warning. The house edge may be low, BUT there's still a house edge! Managing your capital is MORE IMPORTANT than the favorite game to play.

It's true every game on a casino has a house edge. That's how the casino makes money over time. Even poker a game which is only played against other gamblers has a fee that the casino collects for the infrastructure and services they provide for us to gamble. When playing blackjack we can influence the house edge with our strategy. The more optimal we play the lower the winning chances of the house. Unfortunately the best gambling strategy will still not make a save profit, there is anyways luck involved in the games. Blackjack is one of my favourite games as well and I managed to get some decent profits over the years. Having a optimal blackjack strategy together with a martingale approach is what worked best for me. If you are looking for games with a low house edge you can also play some dice and roulette, it's very easy to learn for new players and you can start with only betting on Black/Red or the 50% winning chance. The most important thing we need to focus on in the beginning is not to bet too large, if we face a losing streak the chances are high we could go broke. Better to start small and build a bankroll over time.


I believe the consistent winning gamblers would not call it simply as "luck". It is luck, but it's more complicated than merely calling it "luck". In learning Craps, I have learned that it's also about the skill of when to make bets larger on more favorable trends, and the timing. The Craps players call it "pressing". You press your bets if the trend is on your side.

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October 31, 2022, 06:50:35 PM
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I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
and sometimes this leads to account banning , so for me better to stand from the table for a while when we already won good amount and consider returning in the next sessions ?

though I am not sure from others , but for me? winning is all about luck and decisions , so if we are to win high enough then best to lessen your activities .
If the strategy is sketchy, there will really be a review for it and if the casino finds it against on their policies then there's the likely that player will be banned.

As we all know, luck has a big part to play for someone's win and that's always being observed.

This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.
It's a business so they have to focus on themselves and give themselves the advantage but, legit casinos will also give priority to those that are winning without any trouble.



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October 31, 2022, 10:24:57 PM
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I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.

this is why it is always good to play on top and reputable casinos where payment is not a problem. you can already find them in this forum where they can afford to pay huge winnings without delay and hassle. also, make sure your browse the ToS of the site. because that's where they will look at for possible violation of the player.

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November 02, 2022, 12:54:15 PM
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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
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November 03, 2022, 06:37:37 AM
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I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This is really and many casinos will keep doing that. Some casinos do not care if you win or not, what do really care about is how to make money money and pay their staffs.
If they detected that a gambler I'll s using a particular strategy to make more money, if it is a mere casino they can ban the gambler to limit the way he take money from them.
Majority of the casino that we are seeing today as a scan casino or that is giving their customers who patronize them a very big problem in terms of payment is does casino that does not have a licence there are those ones that have been treating people anyhow and only being interested of paying their workers or have the money to pay their workers when issues comes to the site when contact them it will take some days or some weeks before they will respond to it so those kind of consumer platforms supposed to be avoided because of safety
Of course, I do not exclude that now even Ai is used by large online casinos to adjust algorithms in order to prevent professional players from constantly winning. 

Perhaps even this has already been invented and implemented.  However, if the casino has a provable fairness mechanism, then a game such as dice must of course be determined by a randomness algorithm.  And in this case, any strategy will still fail from a certain roll of the dice.  And the period of winnings will simply become a thing of the past, but will remain in your memories as incredible luck. 
It will be so even if you lose everything that you won after the streak of luck. Smiley

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November 06, 2022, 03:43:00 AM
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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.
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November 07, 2022, 05:19:39 PM
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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.
This is why a lot of casinos now are hiring game providers to supply with different titles so that all players have nothing to say on them but each type of player do always has a game that fit for them. Blackjack is one of those games who have a low house edge and it was actually favoured by lots of people because of this but maybe its true that craps are not that popular as blackjack because many sites that I visit doesn't have this game and it was rarely being talked about anywhere.

I didn't even know what this game look like and how it is being played but if only my casino introduce this earlier when I am still active, I may get curious on trying it and start liking it later on.

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November 08, 2022, 11:40:14 PM
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Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.

I think planning works well on gambling but creating strategy to win does not. Grin  It will only make us frustrated.  To think that we spend lots of time and didn't sleep that night preparing for the strategy and approach we can do just to increase our chance of winning but in the end it isn't effective at all.  I wonder how much load of stress is weighing on that player mind if all of his strategy planning does not work even a little in the game he played.


Each player has his own way of seeing things, according to his experience and according to what he has lived, obviously a person who has so much experience and who has managed to win in a casino with a great advantage is something that should be respected and take into account their opinion to learn, and also to see that their opinion is the most accurate, a casino that has a normal advantage is something that many players accept, others that have a higher one already depends a lot on the player's budget, and Sometimes it can be seen that each player has his preference in casinos, if there is someone who really likes a particular casino, obviously he will go there even if the advantage is high, and if he likes slots and enjoys them, it is something that the same will take advantage of it.


Well, experienced player should be respected and we must give weight to what they are saying but I don't think their opinion is the most accurate.  The can be relevant but of course their game strategy is different from us so there might be some variation.

Yes, it is something that could not go against the best of each person, each person has experienced the game in different ways and if it has worked for them, and if they give advice, at least I am someone who takes that learning and applies it, Of course, as I said before, I respect every way of betting, I'm not very good at doing the martingale thing, but I know that sometimes the big players apply it, of course they apply it because they have the monetary capacity to do it, but in my case my abilities They are very limited and I cannot take one of those risks, I prefer to go slowly but surely, I am not looking for big profits either, because the main thing is fun.


Yes it is truth you are saying because it is easy for someone to lose everything he has made for Amelie and gambling or in casino game so anyone who is trying to bet or go into gambling supposed to watch very well and know the implication of what is going to because sometimes some people do that whenever they lose money in gambling so I think this  your advice is acceptable

I have always had a saying, if you play in a casino, first of all it should be to have fun and not to seek to have 1000% profitability as some players do, to play in a casino you should have a lot of restraint, because it is not something so easy to do if we want to earn money quickly and easily because there will always be a lot of pressure, you do not want to lose money, but it is incredible, when something is not sought, and you want it to happen.

When a person decides to put a lot of money at stake, it must be clear that they can lose everything, that is something that cannot be denied, however when we make other types of very risky plays if we have good luck, (something that happens very few times) because it is used, but what must be done is to assume a loss.

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November 08, 2022, 11:48:22 PM
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I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
There's really a code and algorithm for that.

The casinos won't allow us to win continually if they've detected that we're using some pattern or strategy against the games that we're playing on them.

That's why no strategy would work for long if you've been winning on it lately.
This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.

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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.

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This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.

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Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.
The gambler should ask on the live support about the reason why the account got limited or ban, they shouldn't create multiple accounts since it's against their rules. Let's say the gambler has found a way to win in a specific game, actually he can just gamble on the other site since the other site must have the same provider or game. It doesn't make sense why he force to gamble on that's site.

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November 09, 2022, 01:49:28 PM
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Well playing without strategy doesn't stress our minds.  This is one good thing about slots if we are playing to entertain ourselves.  We accept the lose of money in exchange for some relaxing entertainment.
those who play for fun, don't think too much about winning strategies. but some players who focus on winning the game of course like to make plans in betting.
succeed or not, who knows?
Making plans does stress our minds. especially when plans don't work. The plan in gambling is almost the same as the plan in trading. both have the potential to make us stressed.
^Because there are some people who are too greedy thinking of profit and take advantage sometimes of the gambling casino.
These kinds of people are everywhere, instead of gambling for fun, they gamble to make money and live it for it and also for a living. I believed that there is no strategy in a game, just gamble and measure your luck and once it was not there, take a break and come back when you are ready again and possibly your luck will be followed.

I do agree, most of my wins playing casinos are when I'm not putting all my thoughts on the game and just enjoying it. The more you think of winning the more disappointed you are with the outcome. I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos. With that being said, it's more fun gambling if you enjoy playing the games you are familiar with, it might be against your real objective why you played, which is to gain profit, but it is less stressful if you have this kind of mindset.

Well, how I see these things is when I say that a player is passing the level and is maturing many things, and that is really what is sought in a casino, fun, what happens is that many confuse fun with greed, I used to When I was starting in the casinos, I used to play to win, but when the failure rate was higher than the win rate, I managed to understand what the goal of all this really was, and sometimes those who blame the addiction are the casinos and not It is like this, the guilty of all this will always be the players, because it is assumed that those who enter a casino are of legal age and responsible for their actions.

This can be done by casinos and they will not always want us to keep winning because that might comes as a lose to them.
There are many persons who are always looking for a better casinos a new casinos where they can play bets that is why we just need to be at alert to to go and play on a wrong site.
If casino noticed that you do have consistent winnings they can look for a way to ban your account or reduce the amount you can gamble with.
Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.

I have seen in a thread of a very good casino, something that I did not like very much, I operate at the same time or I understand, and it is limited to number per IP, this means that if we have several people who have different accounts in a casino but under the same public IP they will be restricted, and I think it is due to the same case of multiple accounts, the system can interpret it as multiple accounts, this is something that I do not agree with, because a casino should not do something like that, it is as if an exchange would do the same, if they do things like that, it is obvious that a player who likes a casino very much will look for other casino options, nobody likes to deal with problems.

This is like having bots and limiting or banning an account for it, if a bot makes the person lose faster it is like more beneficial for a casino, then there are certain things that sometimes the directives decide in a casino that are not adequate, and there is a lot of competition, they should not do things like that.

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Of course, it can be done by the casino to limit our account or ban our account. that is why some gamblers have multiple accounts in one casino. somehow they are not detected. but such practices are no longer a secret in the world of online gambling.
Casinos need more money coming into their platform. and gamblers want to win more from the casino. Of course, casinos don't want to lose players who have deposited a lot of their money. but they also definitely take into account players who have consistent wins.
The gambler should ask on the live support about the reason why the account got limited or ban, they shouldn't create multiple accounts since it's against their rules. Let's say the gambler has found a way to win in a specific game, actually he can just gamble on the other site since the other site must have the same provider or game. It doesn't make sense why he force to gamble on that's site.
Of course, you can ask the support service about the reasons for blocking an account, but it is far from always possible to get a correct answer to such a question.  I think that the likelihood of a ban increases when casino administrators see that some player wins more often than others.  But this is in principle possible if this player has a streak of luck or he is a very experienced player. 
But the casino always proceeds from the obvious interest of getting as much money as possible and giving as little money as possible for winnings.

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November 10, 2022, 07:01:00 AM
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I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.
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November 10, 2022, 09:35:58 PM
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I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.

Employees are just employees and in casinos and game platforms they are under intensive scrutiny. Just imagine that you had a CCTV pointing at you when you work, clients that are trying to scam from time to time, a clear set of instructions to play, very clear directives and, being honest, strong penalties if you do not follow the orders. It is more like being in an army if you think of it.

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I don't really care if there's still house edge even if it's very low because gambling sites are business which means itbis always in thei favor to earn profit from their gamblers. So what I was trying to explain is that we are the so called employees on their casinos to help the owner for earning a good profit for a chance to get high pay which I think you know it's about winning in bet like the ones you have known that won huge amount in casino. After all, gambling sites are business and it's all in the casinos favor no matter how you flip the truth upside down.

Employees are just employees and in casinos and game platforms they are under intensive scrutiny. Just imagine that you had a CCTV pointing at you when you work, clients that are trying to scam from time to time, a clear set of instructions to play, very clear directives and, being honest, strong penalties if you do not follow the orders. It is more like being in an army if you think of it.
I don't know if you get my point about that one which I explained that the gamblers are like employees in the casino where the work needed to be done for the casino to earn is that the gamblers will do it for the owner. I know it sounds too complicated if you ask me and yes I know that casinos have employees which is the one who take care of the website and the customer support. What I was trying to explain is that we gamblers are the one who make money for the employees of the casino and especially the onwer which will earn much more money than the employees. I do understand your point, I really do and I agree with it (just sharing my point of view or my opinion).
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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.
As long as you get your fun that is all what matters, blackjack is a very special game because it can be played by all kind of audiences, just as you are playing it without any intention of following any strategy, there are others that not only use the basic strategy but which also use card counting.

Both players are getting their fun out of the game but they are doing it in a completely different manner, something which is not possible in other games like slots, in which there is no really any strategy you can follow which can reduce the house edge.
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November 13, 2022, 11:57:24 AM
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I have gone through your post. I agree that playing with the lowest house edge available is the best technique for winning (Especially for new users). But I have observed from my experience with the gambling sites that BlackJack and Craps aren't very popular among the users. So as part of your positive advice, I would also like to say that your luck also matters to winning the gambling games.
Different games cater to different audiences, blackjack is a game in which the house edge can be lowered to very small levels if you know how to play it correctly, and you could even get an edge at some point during your time playing the game, but it requires to play in a certain way and to keep track of every single card which has been dealt, and not only many people cannot do this such a thing goes against their idea of fun, so they are very reticent to do something like this.


Honestly I prefer Blackjack. Not because I have some strategy or even because it somehow has a lower house edge but just because its a simpler game. I find that simpler games are just more appealing when betting. I do not want to have to think of strategies or plan my moves in advance or anything because when it comes down to it, all games have house edge otherwise the casinos would not be making money. Try as hard as you like but the most you can do with strategies is maybe lower the probability of you losing money by a bit. Id rather have fun than stress myself out with algorithms and strategies.
As long as you get your fun that is all what matters, blackjack is a very special game because it can be played by all kind of audiences, just as you are playing it without any intention of following any strategy, there are others that not only use the basic strategy but which also use card counting.

Both players are getting their fun out of the game but they are doing it in a completely different manner, something which is not possible in other games like slots, in which there is no really any strategy you can follow which can reduce the house edge.
But card counting is a strategy. There are others such as bluffing your opponent and luring your opponent with the possible cards on your deck but is applicable with other card games. Baccarat is more on between the banker and player alone,I'm not sure but bunker I think can use bluffing to get the win.
But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.

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But that is indeed true; strategies won't work on luck-based gambling games except for algorithms which requires experties and is something cannot be achieved for a short period of time. There are even veterans who still cannot decode algorithms of dice games. You'll purely rely on fate as the categorical name implies.
In general, in such games where the winnings is purely random and even great experience of the game cannot in any way guarantee luck, such as a game of dice, all players can be considered plebs.  
But, of course, in intellectual games and games based on the knowledge of the opponent's psychology, everything is completely different and.  Here both experience and intuition play a decisive role.  
I would not confuse such different games, although they all fall under the category of gambling.

So, it turns out that any person, even if he is a professional player, in some games still turns out to be plebs Smiley

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