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November 30, 2022, 05:57:33 PM
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I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
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November 30, 2022, 06:09:04 PM
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I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may result in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and come back on the other day.


Based on my experience, there's no winning algorithm on these games. All the results are random and always unpredictable.
No matter how we apply a pattern or strategy, it won't be effective all the time.
Have tried it with blackjack before, I tried using a certain pattern, and I was glad that the strategy worked but I lost later on meaning, putting any pattern won't always work in the long run.
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December 01, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
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I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may result in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and come back on the other day.


Based on my experience, there's no winning algorithm on these games. All the results are random and always unpredictable.
No matter how we apply a pattern or strategy, it won't be effective all the time.
Have tried it with blackjack before, I tried using a certain pattern, and I was glad that the strategy worked but I lost later on meaning, putting any pattern won't always work in the long run.

But if this works like this, then this thread would not make sense, because everything they say would be lies, so does that mean that there is no strategy that makes us win? So I don't see that we can learn, I have seen many suggestions on how to play and they have helped me.

The thread has opinions that I consider are not bad, nor are they written to get by or to meet a requirement, some are very sincere and have shared their stories of how they have won and I see that casinos can apply tactics to them To win, I don't see that they are so closed in having to apply things so that the player can have some advantage.



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December 02, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
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I don't believe in perfect strategy in gambling, by the end of the day your luck will decide if you win or not. House edge and strategy can be a factor, but overall luck is a big part in playing in casinos

You, like many, don't seem to understand the difference between short term and long term gambling.

In the short term you can have positive results. Go to the casino with $200 and come out with $800, for example. But in the long term the HE is everything, the more times you play, the larger the numerical sample, the closer your actual results will be to the expected mathematical results, and these always consist of a net loss.

This is highly proven.  I have the same experience as this, I was winning (turned my $30 bankroll to $400+) and should have stopped that moment but I keep on playing.  Took me another 8 hours and all my bankroll and winnings were depleted.  It only took me less than 1 hour to get to $400+ bankroll (winnings from consecutive bonus rounds of a certain slot) and full 8 hours to lose them all.  Luck can't save us if we decided on a very long session of gambling.


That just happened to me! I lost in 5.00 mBTC in Craps. The strategy I was using simply stopped working.


I have a feeling that the game script is created with the code to adjust to the players' strategy.  We can also observe this thing happen on Dice.  After using the strategy again and again, it will somehow stop functioning after some time.
I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.


Some of the casinos I am sure are really sophisticated in detecting unusually successful players that seem to be just too lucky. However there is also a common sense approach for others. If you think of it, you would expect 99% of your clients to loose systematically, so anyone who happens to have good luck will immediately be highlighted without much need to search.

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December 02, 2022, 11:36:42 PM
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I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.Huh  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) Grin). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!
There's always that boundary considering about finances which it cant really be avoided that all of those differences would really be noted out which is really in fact the reality but in speaking about boundary

in terms of winning chance when it comes or in touching up gambling then there's indeed no difference when it comes to that.Chances or odds would be the same, doesnt matter if you do bet $10 or $10000 or more

it would really still boils down on the same percentage or chance which you had said that there's no boundary when it comes to this manner.
Everything or everyone does have that equal random chance into their gambling activity.

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December 03, 2022, 04:33:58 PM
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I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.

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December 03, 2022, 06:59:21 PM
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I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.
They are businesses and there's no way that they would really be allowing for players to take advantage and make out money on constant because it would really be truly a disaster on this case.

They cant really just allow on having that way because they arent making a charity but rather they are trying to build a business which means they do really have the upperhand.They cant really just make people
milk out funds into their platform because it would really be ending up on bankrupt.In speaking about having funds whether you are rich or poor then just like the rest been saying that odds are just the same.
There is no boundary in between these things because winning and losing would really be totally just the same.It is really just a wrong mindset that it could really make out some different situations
considering that it does have different status.

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December 03, 2022, 08:02:35 PM
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There's no actually any specifications for plebs to choose a different casinos or having a particular type for their category since either being a pleb or not you can gamble and win, loose, as long as the winning is not a determination weather you're a pleb or not, every gambler is placed with thesame opportunity each other person has to either win or loose a bet, what makes the difference is the amount we stake on our respective bets and winning is not a casino barrier, you determine your winning by your fate through how you could predict games in gambling.

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December 03, 2022, 08:14:11 PM
Last edit: December 04, 2022, 08:05:01 PM by roslinpl
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Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
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December 04, 2022, 02:18:26 AM
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I think there is a code and algorithm for every strategy we used in gambling games. If the casinos notice that we are employing a pattern or method to play their games against them, they won't let us keep winning. Since you've been successful with it recently, no method would continue to work for very long. Also, occasionally this may results in account banning. Therefore, if you won a good amount of cash, you should stop playing and comeback on the other day.
There is no code and algorithm for every strategy because the casino will hold back the code and algorithm we use so we can't win. But if you can win, it's because your luck came at the right time and helped you. And be careful if you have won using that strategy because that strategy might not work to be used again so we have to change the strategy and look for a suitable strategy. And I agree with stopping playing after winning a lot of money.
They are businesses and there's no way that they would really be allowing for players to take advantage and make out money on constant because it would really be truly a disaster on this case.

They cant really just allow on having that way because they arent making a charity but rather they are trying to build a business which means they do really have the upperhand.They cant really just make people
milk out funds into their platform because it would really be ending up on bankrupt.In speaking about having funds whether you are rich or poor then just like the rest been saying that odds are just the same.
There is no boundary in between these things because winning and losing would really be totally just the same.It is really just a wrong mindset that it could really make out some different situations
considering that it does have different status.
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Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.
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Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.
Of course, limiting ourselves when playing means avoiding very big losses because that has happened to many people and we don't want to experience something like that. These are the basic rules of gambling but unfortunately, few can consistently stay on track while others suffer huge losses.

Playing gambling will have risks, whether it's big or small risk. And as long as we are not ready to risk losing, we will regret it. But that won't make us really control it, even though some people can do it. I rarely play skill-based gambling games, especially card games, because I know that in addition to skill, we must also have enough experience to beat our opponents.

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Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.

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Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. Smiley

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December 07, 2022, 08:33:39 AM
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I'm actually a little dissatisfied with why the OP thinks that there should be some kind of special casinos for the plebs. 

Of course when betting thousands of dollars in a gambling area like Las Vegas, it's not for the plebs.Huh  And that those millionaires who play there are better than those players who bet $10.  How are they better???  Yes, they are all much worse than us ordinary people who honestly earn a living, and do not squander crazy money from the inheritance, or people like SBF (Well, of course, until the collapse of FTX! ) Grin). 
In general, it is unfair to divide players into plebs and no-plebs. 
Where is the boundary of such a division - there is none!

Yeah, all casinos need two types of players, the "plebs" if you want to call them that way and the "big shots". The first ones will be on the retail end, little bonus, not much attention from the site, etc...  while the big spenders will receive all the attention and get plenty of freebies. But there is not much difference other than the stakes in terms of the games being played I would say,

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Casinos build a great business by attracting more people to their place and providing offers that entice them to return. And we, as gambling players, whether small or big gamblers, must try to limit finances when playing. Otherwise, we will only regret having made an unwise decision.
It's really important to limit ourselves when playing, only use what you can afford to lose. Hence even if you didn't win, it's easy to accept it since you're prepared for the worse to happen and that is by losing your money. However, many of us forget this simple rule when playing and exceeding their limit for trying to recover the losses which is not right.

I'm just an average gambler too and aware of how risky gambling is and the edge of the house. Thus, I often play a skill based game wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win. Anyway we have different preference and it depends on us what games we most enjoy when we gamble.
Deep down most gamblers already know this information and they try their best to respect the limits they have imposed to themselves during a particular session, however even it it may seem easy some people find very hard to keep themselves within those limits.

And that is when you can encounter huge problems, because if you realize that you have lost more than what you wanted then it is easy to try to rise your bet to quickly recover what you have lost, but if you happen to lose that bet as well then you will find yourself losing so much money that it will be almost impossible to accept what happened to you.
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Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. Smiley
Wise thinking, it is undeniable that most people will feel annoyed because they experience too many losses in the stock exchange if it is not accompanied by a strong mentality and adequate experience. Sometimes a good way to get rid of the frustration is to play in the casino, but it should be noted this is just for stress relief and there is no need to make big bets. So I do this very often regardless of winning or losing it's all as entertainment for the mind.
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Some people like to do gambling as the full time job like trading. But it’s not an wise idea with my opinion. Because in trading, we can manage to get profit in some projects even the market is down. But in gambling, if you lose on some games. The same mentality will be prevail all over the game. So it may leads to the continuous loss that you had the money in your wallet. We should stop to play after a big win or big loss. Because if you continue after a big loss, you will spend all the remaining balance on your wallet.
We all have v choice to choose whatever want but as you can see some persons will prefer to gamble and make profits to even trading. Trading is for those who are patient and are ready to take a lots of risks even while making loses. Some persons had enter into trading and have left it because they could not make any tangible thing from it.
I will even say more if someone does not know.  99% of those people who are trying to make money on the exchanges, after some time of active trading, understand that nothing can be earned, and trading is at a loss. 
Of course, trading requires experience and a specific mind and character.  So it’s really much easier and much more interesting to never get involved in trading on stock exchanges at all, but simply to play in online casinos.  In a casino, at least sometimes you win, and this is joy and pleasure.  For example, I enjoy playing with small stakes.  And now I always treat losses, also, of course, small ones, just as payment for the pleasure of playing. Smiley
Wise thinking, it is undeniable that most people will feel annoyed because they experience too many losses in the stock exchange if it is not accompanied by a strong mentality and adequate experience. Sometimes a good way to get rid of the frustration is to play in the casino, but it should be noted this is just for stress relief and there is no need to make big bets. So I do this very often regardless of winning or losing it's all as entertainment for the mind.

So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

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You cant really find up those things on todays time which funding up for some having capital is impossible.People cant just be trust up nowadays where frauds and scams are really that rampant which means that
you would definitely not able to find those people or on the community when you do ask for some funding even if you do tend to share up huge percentage in regarding or part of the revenue.
Gambling business is really that profitable and just because of those people or gamblers who do really keep on believing and pushing through that they could really win big.
Someone should really be minding about having the good control when it comes into their gambling activity so that you wont really be that ending up
on getting fucked up because you have already lost big and getting addicted on the end.Play for leisure and not for income or earning that kind of motive.
It's because of the ICO trend before where many people got scammed because of a scammer hide behind an ICO which cause the other scammers also start an ICO until you can't find a legit ICO or same project at this time. In order to have it is to be a legit casino first before releasing their own token or coins for gamblers to buy where the funds that they received from selling their tokens or coins will be use to add more of their bankroll or their profit. So I would say that you can still find gambling sites like that but not the same as before.
You are right, I have seen new projects that have to do with ICOs and casinos, this is something that one does once and for all as an alert in his mind, for everything that has been experienced since 2017, it is so similar to what has been experienced in 2021 with NFT games, something that many people were scammed with a lot of money, so this is something that we as players are always going to have certain risks, of course there is also what I know as the old saying: "He who does not risk does not win", but at this point in life we must be very aware of what we are going to risk, nobody likes to lose money, even if it is 1 dollar, nobody likes to lose it.


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December 12, 2022, 10:11:34 AM
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So technically you are saying that gambling can be more ideal as a stress reliever than making a trade?. well it depends in trading if you have knowledge regarding the position you would like to do is you make the right time and proper preparation at the same time, if you execute the trade properly its good but if not you have a mistakes every thing right there has a lesson but in playing gambling is you just make a deposit, play and let the game you choose to decide if you are a winner or not, gambling is more stressful because you are just letting other people make your luck not yourself with your knowledge and skills.

IN my opinion gambling is much more stressful than day trading, I say this for the following reason: for example if a person takes 100$ and that person starts making sports bets, that person bets 10$, loses, bets others 10$ and loses again, bet on 10$ wins, but then goes back to bet on 10$ and loses again, this person will start to get stressed because he sees that his bankroll is reducing all the time, and he doesn't know how to reverse this situation, then panic starts to take over him, but when doing trade he will always put stop - loss and he can do hodl for some time until he has profit, then he will not have stress when doing trade

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