Is this statiscally possible in a lottery?

[dunfida]

Incredible result for winners, just guess the multipliers of 9 and bingo!
It proves the point about patterns in random series in case of lottery result not rigged. Anyways, I am sure for next round players will go for multipliers of all numbers 🙂

They have been betting on the same number since then, and having that huge winners is rare probably but it’s still possible. Now, they are investigating this one and I’m sure this is correct since those winners will surely contest and probably, claim the reward right away. Though the lotto that is being managed by the government seems suspicious sometimes, many says they are just choosing someone to be the winner but in reality, there is none this is why many don’t believe on this.

I am sure the lawsuit may happen if the investigation team declares the lottery results are rigged somehow. The winners have to fight for their rights and take the prize since the stress and dopamine they have experienced during this period shouldn't be wasted due to the patterns of randomness. Each pattern has some randomness and every randomness have infinite patterns inside it, we just can't calculate each possibility one by one. Hopefully, the lottery company or government will not refuse to pay the winners, otherwise, it will be a huge trust issue for the next lottery rounds/big wins,IMHO.

Really hard to say if its rigged, if we do consider on how many winners then it would be impossible that they would really be leaking out those numbers in those numbers of people who do make out bets.
But honestly this is my first time on seeing a lottery jackpot winner which is on having 400+ which we do usually know or see that it would rather be 1 winner or 2 or max of 3 based on my
experience but this one? turns out to be more 400 which is truly unbelievable or just simply this is first time in history on having these lots of winners.
For sure there would be some investigation to be made up if there are lots of complaints or questions or doubts about the transparency of this lottery.

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[STT]

I don't even know if this will help the economy especially

A lottery run by government equates to a kind of tax, it cannot be called a positive especially but it does relieve the alternate forms of taxation where the poorest people are deprived of their scarce resources.   We have to hope that lottery money raises money from those with money spare ie. an optional luxury tax with a hefty cashback factor & so the economy is not altered negatively as can happen in some tax regimes where workers are punished by overly large government and its spending, waste, etc.

[molsewid]

A lottery run by government equates to a kind of tax, it cannot be called a positive especially but it does relieve the alternate forms of taxation where the poorest people are deprived of their scarce resources.   We have to hope that lottery money raises money from those with money spare ie. an optional luxury tax with a hefty cashback factor & so the economy is not altered negatively as can happen in some tax regimes where workers are punished by overly large government and its spending, waste, etc.

Those 433 winners are said to have 500k if I am not mistaken, I think lottery here is not taxable, I mean they are not subject for tax. The reason why people like to win the jackpot because it is tax free exempted to this kind of tax, I am thinking, if all of the 433 winners uses their money in small span of time, it will not affect the economy right? I am also thinking that 433 is not real, there will be some fake people included, as we all know government can still manipulate the output.

[strunberg]

Lottery winning is based on the random pluck and it will happen with huge.The winning of all the lottery game will be the new random pluck,it will make some one happy for their rest of the life.It also stolen the property of many of the unlucky person.So playing lottery in any way should play with more caution with more strategy to win the most of the game,you had engaged in.Playing lottery in offline,it was purely based on your luck.

its purely based on our luck , statistic was not neccessary for us. in each occasion we play , even we dont know will lose or win. everyone has same position in table , so use our money wisely to avoid huge lose till finally we regret with this condition. online or offline was same , it based on random pluck and machine algorithm.

[carlfebz2]

Lottery winning is based on the random pluck and it will happen with huge.The winning of all the lottery game will be the new random pluck,it will make some one happy for their rest of the life.It also stolen the property of many of the unlucky person.So playing lottery in any way should play with more caution with more strategy to win the most of the game,you had engaged in.Playing lottery in offline,it was purely based on your luck.

its purely based on our luck , statistic was not neccessary for us. in each occasion we play , even we dont know will lose or win. everyone has same position in table , so use our money wisely to avoid huge lose till finally we regret with this condition. online or offline was same , it based on random pluck and machine algorithm.

I have searched out about 6/55 Lotto winning odds.
You can form 28,989,675 combinations from numbers 1 to 55 wherein each combination comprises 6 unique non-repeating numbers in no particular order.

https://lottotips888.blogspot.com/p/grand-lotto-655.html

So it is 28 million combination and 433 bettors had hit up these numbers
on a certain time or draw? Just like the rest which i do have suspicions on this one.

[chaser15]

Lottery winning is based on the random pluck and it will happen with huge.The winning of all the lottery game will be the new random pluck,it will make some one happy for their rest of the life.It also stolen the property of many of the unlucky person.So playing lottery in any way should play with more caution with more strategy to win the most of the game,you had engaged in.Playing lottery in offline,it was purely based on your luck.

Yes, it was pure luck but people are not that dumb not to know if some irregularities are happening.

It's clear that there was an intent of manipulating the number of winners.

That was the need for investigation and if PCSO can do everything to show it's legit, then ok.

[goinmerry]

They now released the place where those jackpot winners placed their bet. If we looked at those places, really adds some another doubt for me that there are places where multiple winners were established. It's really hard to imagine.

I will try to post that image later as I just encounter it while browsing my news feed.

[Saisher]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

This is something new and a record in the Philippine lottery draw, that is why there is so much suspicious so much speculation and so many questions, there's a call in the philippine senate to investigate the results I think the investigation and inquiry are better to fully understand it happen and the probability that it can happen and will happen in the future and also to clean the agency from corruption and mismanagement, so we'll see in the senate inquiry on the results of the investigation, until now its still big news in the Philippines.

[Adbitco]

This is could be possible although sometimes seems to real to be false and at this point those who don't believe such score would appear will likely think is a manipulated result or rigged result. I actually have little experience with lotto playing few months ago i went to the local shop to know if i could gain little knowledge on how it work properly.

[traderethereum]

Lottery winning is based on the random pluck and it will happen with huge.The winning of all the lottery game will be the new random pluck,it will make some one happy for their rest of the life.It also stolen the property of many of the unlucky person.So playing lottery in any way should play with more caution with more strategy to win the most of the game,you had engaged in.Playing lottery in offline,it was purely based on your luck.

its purely based on our luck , statistic was not neccessary for us. in each occasion we play , even we dont know will lose or win. everyone has same position in table , so use our money wisely to avoid huge lose till finally we regret with this condition. online or offline was same , it based on random pluck and machine algorithm.

Of course, these statistics will always change because the lottery game is based on luck.
So maybe you don't need to use stats, but if you stick with it, it's up to you.
But you have to think that if the gambling game depends on luck, it will be difficult to win.
And it's better that we only play the lottery when we have free time and never play it too long because it can make you spend more money.

[Pierre 2]

Its obviously possible but its so unlikely that it feels rigged. I don't what exactly they were aiming at. But its known that some machines may be rigged with hot and cold balls (I am not very sure tho)
But I read in another thread that there were like more than 4 hundred winners. That's too much. Never experienced something like this before. But I think that may be proof its not rigged. 400 winners can't be exploit/rig/fixing.

[nullama]

Its obviously possible but its so unlikely that it feels rigged. I don't what exactly they were aiming at. But its known that some machines may be rigged with hot and cold balls (I am not very sure tho)
But I read in another thread that there were like more than 4 hundred winners. That's too much. Never experienced something like this before. But I think that may be proof its not rigged. 400 winners can't be exploit/rig/fixing.

It's as likely as any other combination.

It just feels wrong because of how humans perceive statistics.

For example, if you throw a dice one time and it's a 6, that doesn't change the fact that the next roll has 1/6 chances of being another 6. If there's a second 6 in a row that also doesn't change the fact the next roll still has 1/6 chances of being a 6, but at that moment lots of people would think that it's way less probable to have another 6 than the actual probability, which is 1/6.

[AicecreaME]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?



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It's possible to win the lottery although the probability is really low most especially if the number of balls to be drawn is higher.

I've seen the news too and most people really feel that the result was rigged because there are numerous speculations about winning the lottery every time saying that the bettor who won also belongs to one of their staffs. We can't really blame the people to be doubtful if they witnessed unfair and corrupted upbringing in their environment. We can only educate them.

According to a statistician, it is indeed possible to have a winning numbers with multiple of 9 , and having many winners all at the same time, although the chance is really slim which corresponds to 1 in almost 29 million. Perhaps this is what the people are clamoring to be manipulated because of the almost close to impossible odds, but it could really happen. Unless the streamed draw is recorded, then that would be cheating. However, there is also no proof that the draw isn't live because they always do it live in accordance to the rule of transparency. I suppose the 433 people are just so lucky because the odds were on their favor during that day.

[bisdak40]

And from my perspective and opinion, I think that's okay, because at least a lot of people benefited from the winning amount in the lottery draw because the only people who often benefit from the winning prize in the lottery are only 1, 2, or 3 people. That's better because at least a lot of people have been helped, this is just my opinion.

You may have a point here mate but rigging this game to help the economy will just leave a bad taste to the agency handling this, i mean who would trust if they are the ones scamming their own game? This should be investigated and hope they can explain to the citizens why it happened and convinced us that no rigging has happened to this game because this would create a negative effect on our economy if people won't buy lotto anymore as proceeds/revenues from this game have helped a lot on running our economy.

I don't even know if this will help the economy especially that we may not be sure whether those winners are real and are all of them isn't associated from the PCSO itself.

Also, Due to the issue at hand regarding this draw, the PCSO have released the region as to where the winners are located and most of them are on the same city or near to that city. Who's to say that those are from their agency to cash it out for themselves. Whatever the decision is on the investigation, I will never accept that this is not rigged.

Edit:
Among the list of winners, there's a winner who owns 2 winning ticket which is unreasonable since if you want to maximize you winning chances, a person will buy more tickets that doesn't have any same combination.

Yup, I also don't believe that this will help the economy.

After seeing some users sharing their skills/knowledge on statistics, I do believe now that the result was rigged so the government must do something to sanction/punish those responsible for this.

A single person having two winning tickets is a clear manifestation that this whole thing is a setup. Not so long ago, I and my colleagues at work agreed that each one of us would buy a lotto ticket and if ever one of us wins, the winnings will be shared with our group of 15. We do that because we think by doing so increases our chance of winning but after two years of betting, nothing fortunate has happened to our plan and now I saw the news that one person has two winning tickets, that insane.

[Queentoshi]

The number that came out were are all divisible by nine.

There is a thing called coincidence that can happen.

There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

I am not used to the lottery system, but I will say anything is possible. People talk a lot and will always have something to say when something doesn't go in their favor, It is a human nature that some of them possess.

[panganib999]

The chances of such occurrence to happen within the span of a human lifetime is so astronomically low it may as well be zero. A statistician and a physicist on Facebook created a rundown of the numbers and how low the chances are of the said denominations to come up in the draw, as well as the huge amount of winners to boot. This may as well be rigged or controlled in some way or another by the ones who facilitate our local lottery, granted that the same organization had received much flak in the past few decades due to their ties with corruption. (The gambling organization that set this lottery up is controlled by the central government of the Philippines, and much of the tax that they cut from the winners are returned to the government funding for "facilitation of projects of good governance".

[Oceat]

I might have to believe of what you are saying is true if you show different ticket with the same as divisible with 9 or something. Although, we don't have a proof that they could manipulate the results but if there's a proof then what you have said might be true. But is it really rigged or can be manipulated when the prize would reach that high? It is a direct scam from the people if proven that they could rigged the game and that would create a chaos to all the citizens betting on a lottery ticket.

[jrrsparkles]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?



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I would say it's just a mere coincidence, the lottery results are completely random and I don't think the results are prefixed because the randomness keep the lottery results based on completely luck based which keep engaging more and more people because they think they can hit the jackpot one day.

Lottery company will not go into the loss at any situations since they sell more tickets than the actual prize money so why they are going to fix the results before the draw which is like ruining their duck which gives golden egg everytime.

[madnessteat]

Its obviously possible but its so unlikely that it feels rigged. I don't what exactly they were aiming at. But its known that some machines may be rigged with hot and cold balls (I am not very sure tho)
But I read in another thread that there were like more than 4 hundred winners. That's too much. Never experienced something like this before. But I think that may be proof its not rigged. 400 winners can't be exploit/rig/fixing.

It's as likely as any other combination.

It just feels wrong because of how humans perceive statistics.

For example, if you throw a dice one time and it's a 6, that doesn't change the fact that the next roll has 1/6 chances of being another 6. If there's a second 6 in a row that also doesn't change the fact the next roll still has 1/6 chances of being a 6, but at that moment lots of people would think that it's way less probable to have another 6 than the actual probability, which is 1/6.

I agree with you. Each new roll does not depend on the previous one, so I do not exclude the fact that the combination could well be accidental.

Even if the lottery is run by the government, it makes no sense for them to manipulate the results, because that would lead to a reduction in lottery sales, if not a scandal. Lottery owners make a lot of money even without faking the results. Therefore, I personally think that they are not interested in cheating.

[Boristhecat]

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And this is the explanation of one an OCTA Research on the probability



Its better to have an investigation on this because its possibility that something like this will come out in the future, we never know its a lottery and luck and probability do happen every once in a blue moon

A delusional explanation, if in the last paragraph they didn’t mention that people like to bet on beautiful numbers, then this whole explanation could be safely thrown into the trash. The penultimate paragraph is completely superfluous - I got the impression that this explanation was written only to demonstrate their own mathematical skills.
I wonder, those who still doubt the honesty of this lottery, how do they explain the phenomenal number of winners? As "a simple and imperceptible way for anyone" to steal the winnings among "your people"? Seriously?