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October 03, 2022, 11:56:16 PM |
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.
This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.
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October 03, 2022, 11:57:18 PM |
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There are winners who already claimed their money at the PCSO office. They are showing their tickets to the media to prove they are really legit. But I think it's only less than 10 who already claimed there. Let's wait for that 433 in a 1-year span. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 03, 2022, 11:59:29 PM |
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.
This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.
I don't know why PCSO didn't even think that there will really be a criticism once they released the 433 winners. Even if that's really legit, it's really hard to accept it in any way. The jackpot is so huge that makes me think that they don't want that money to end up in 1 or 2 winners that's why they take advantage of it.
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October 03, 2022, 11:59:45 PM |
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There are winners who already claimed their money at the PCSO office. They are showing their tickets to the media to prove they are really legit. But I think it's only less than 10 who already claimed there. Let's wait for that 433 in a 1-year span. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I do believe that it would really be just good for 1 week span for those prizes to be claimed.Basing up on calculations even its been split 433 times then it would be still a life changing amount for those people who do live on 3rd world countries or developing ones.Its better rather than having nothing at all and considering on whats the ticket price then this is something that you would be thriving it get it as much as possible. This is really an unusual kind of events or something that doesnt happen in a long time specially on a lottery which is mostly be won by 1 or 2 people on every draw or it does takes long. Considering the odds on hitting up a jackpot then it is really hard to believe on how many had able to do that.
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October 04, 2022, 12:30:12 AM |
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As everyone might have expressed above ... we are all agree that math never lies , human nature do . Sorry to say that most asians i have ever met had a very strong corrupt mentality ( no offense intended ) just my personal experience and this might caused by that.
This strory waaaay too makes no sense but a real life troll, period.
I don't know why PCSO didn't even think that there will really be a criticism once they released the 433 winners. Even if that's really legit, it's really hard to accept it in any way. The jackpot is so huge that makes me think that they don't want that money to end up in 1 or 2 winners that's why they take advantage of it. I have doubt as well if these 433 winners are real and not an agenda of the people behind to get a portion of the prize. There are winners already who showed their tickets to prove that they're really legit however many winners are still not showing up. If im not mistaken this is the first time in PH history to have such number of winners. Lottery is a game of chance we know it's also possible to happen, but they must prove that no irregularity happened by showing the tickets of all the winners.
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October 04, 2022, 02:51:27 AM |
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There's also a story of one bettor who bet the same numbers for the last ten years and he is disappointed because he has to share the winnings with 433 bettors, even the managers of the lotto agency is at a loss on what happened to the draw, but he already assured everybody that the drawing is clean and beyond reasonable doubt and they are open to investigation, this is one for the record and can be considered in the Guinness book of world record.
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October 04, 2022, 03:12:14 AM |
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433 Winners The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax) Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I don't know and can't know if the result has been manipulated, but even if it is statistically curious, it is perfectly probable. What I am happy about is that the prize is distributed among so many people, especially in a country like the Philippines. That 433 people will receive between 7 and 8 million $ after taxes, in their local currency, is much better than the prize going to just one person. With so many people, as well as spreading the wealth of the jackpot more evenly, it is more likely that the money will be put to good use, even if there are some who squander it.
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October 04, 2022, 03:22:36 AM |
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-snip- Jackpot Prize: $4,015,156.265 The Winning Combination is 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 (it's divisible by 9) 58.80 Pesos equivalent to $1 433 Winners The winners will receive $9,272.878 each (not including the tax) Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) This reminds me of a film starring Jim Carey (forgot the title of the film) everyone wins by a very small amount ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but this is much greater, it's just that it's definitely not what is expected because when talking about the jackpot there will only be 1 winner. However with the Philippines economy, isn't the value obtained quite large? So those who get it will be happy with it. Investigations must do if this is the first time happened and there may be manipulation of the winners
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October 04, 2022, 04:58:24 AM |
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened.
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October 04, 2022, 05:26:02 AM |
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Main reason why winners are like 433 is obvious. It goes like 9 and 2x9 and 3x9... I am sure many people were trying same combination every week for years! But its really sad as you can see, you may feel like you won a million dollar but after your prize you'll see its not good idea to play with the most guessed combinations. Awkward combinations are generally guessed by 1-2 people so prize is lot more than this.
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October 04, 2022, 05:51:05 AM |
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Come to think of it the first prize reached 233 million but what if this draw happens after the last jackpot was hit, the starting pot is 27 million so there will be getting less than 50,000 after the tax deduction, they are still lucky that this happens when the jackpot reached 233 million so each one of them will be getting 500k still big money in the Philippines still a blessing with millions of people betting in a lottery a jackpot is still a jackpot and this time of crisis its a big help.
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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.
They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.
But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.
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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.
They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.
But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.
I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible.
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October 04, 2022, 07:03:48 AM |
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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.
They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.
But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.
I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible. 1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery. I agree with goldkingcoiner that they should investigate the network of the winners and find out if there are really manipulation happening in PCSO. I believe there are honest winners out there but that would only be just a handful.
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October 04, 2022, 07:57:35 AM |
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened. Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time. There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.
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October 04, 2022, 08:21:44 AM |
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened. Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time. There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system. I'm with in this opinion, with a lot of issue right now, the senate is needed to prioritize what is more important instead of using long time in investigating this issue. Though I'm sure there are winners that are surely disappointed since winning a jackpot is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and sharing it with that huge number of winners gives you a smaller amount of winning of money. 500K might be a good consolation and far better than nothing. If what happens is for real, there's nothing else that winners can do now.
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that would be at least 10 thousand dollars or more each of them? isn't the first time that a jackpot winners numbered as 433? though it is good to see so much to get wins while mostly it was only split in 2-4 people but this is too small to be called a jackpot winner ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But also having thought of this as manipulated situation .
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October 04, 2022, 09:23:04 AM Last edit: October 04, 2022, 09:39:47 AM by goldkingcoiner |
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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.
They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.
But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.
I am not invalidating your suspicion and as I said before I think an investigation should still be done since a lot of people are suspicious about the result, but come on, how was it impossible to have that many winners? even if you say that the chance of winning is 1 in 29 million it still doesn't change the fact that those people chose the same number, which means all of them had the chance of winning with the same odds of 1 in 29 million which means having that many winners are not impossible. 1 in 29 million is the odds that one winner will get the number. You have to raise that again to 433 since there are 433 winners. That is 1 out of 1 followed by 1224 zeroes that 433 people will win a 6/55 lottery. I agree with goldkingcoiner that they should investigate the network of the winners and find out if there are really manipulation happening in PCSO. I believe there are honest winners out there but that would only be just a handful. Thank you for adding that. Yes, I meant the 1 in 29 million chance of winning is the probability for one single person. The probability of 433 people winning at the same time is astronomically low and should not even be considered as realistic. But that being said, a single person winning the lottery on the same day as some other 10 people who also won the lottery is so extremely low its out of the realm of possible. 433 is a criminally suspicious number. So suspicious that its basically mathematical evidence that the lottery was indeed rigged.
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October 04, 2022, 11:28:24 AM |
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Did PCSO (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) manipulate the result or the winners defied the odds? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) with that eye-roll, it seems like you are being sarcastic when you say "the winners defied the odds?". anyway, despite me thinking that there was no manipulation, I think an investigation should be done to prove no manipulation happened but knowing how Filipinos react to this kind of situation, they won't believe it(or at least the majority) if it was proven no manipulation happened. Investigation can help, but knowing the government I’m sure it will just a waste of time. Yes, I don't think that they will find something concrete here, and if I'm not mistaken, PCSO has existed for many years so it's very hard to proved something. There’s a lot of issues going on with our government right now, It’s sad but hopefully those winners are real and let’s just be happy for them, as long as all the winners will get their reward. Now this can be a proof that more winners are possible with Lottery, despite of the doubt about the system.
As someone said, it's around $10k each so that is a huge amount of money for each winner. And so if there is a investigation, it might take months or even years to claim their money. So it will not be far for the honest one. So It's better to give the prize money first in my opinion.
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Someone already made a thread about exactly this news. Obviously its a manipulated lottery. There is no way there could have been that many winners. The chance of winning is about 1 in 29 million. And then we have 433 winners? Cmon.
They should look at the 433 winner network and analyse what and who they are connected to. I think they could find the culprit(s) responsible for the obvious scam.
But who knows, maybe all those people won because of some miraculous event that happens once in the entire lifetime of the human species? Nah. I still remain suspicious. I think there is definitely something fishy going on here.
Never believe on miracle since in history of lottery this event didn't happen. The odds is so low that's why its really hard to digest what they are announcing and for having 433 winners this will create an assumption that govern bodies handle the PCSO is corrupt. They are been bashed and show some people claiming but still it didn't justified anything because still people doubt about the result.
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