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October 07, 2022, 03:15:15 AM
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This is the duty of the security department and that is why the security department is the final court for judgment as it relates to abuse in the system be it from customers or hackers that make any attempt to abuse the platform.
Even How good the security department is , yet Bug will always occur because there is no perfect site creation meaning there will always a small bug to come this is why OP is asking about players view to find Bug and they will be paid.
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In the past casino, owners make public bounties for testers who will help them detect any bug in their system, but recent updates don't need that anymore as their internal security teams can keep up with the task of protecting the site from invaders.
which Past casino owners are you referring here mate? because from what I understand and remember there is only one casino that made this bounty here and that is FortuneJack, is there any casuno that provide bounty as well?

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October 07, 2022, 03:19:06 AM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

Earlier many sites used to have these type of bounties, so that instead of taking profit from it, users will report it to the official team.
Many new sites are lacking these bounties, maybe they don’t know about this ?
Nevertheless if you talk about more secure site, then I would say stake.com.
I have been playing there from half a decade and believe me, it’s the best gambling site present in the market in terms of security.
Rest is up to you OP.

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October 07, 2022, 03:28:07 AM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

I just don't know which crypto-gambling platforms have a record of being hacked. Because so far the crypto gambling that I know of is still able

to operate, I have not seen any of them have an issue or problem regarding that matter. So if there are any, could you please let me know what

they are? so that others can also be aware of that matter here OP? Besides the bug bounty that OP mentions, do you know of any gambling

platforms that use this style?

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October 07, 2022, 03:59:15 AM
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Because I think Some Gambling sites uses this also to their advantages? I mean if the player/gambler wins with Bug then they can just confiscate or at least  locked their account? I'm not sure if this is going to happen or something provided this as valid reason for banning and taking their funds but I think there is a possibilities ?

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October 07, 2022, 04:28:28 AM
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This is the duty of the security department and that is why the security department is the final court for judgment as it relates to abuse in the system be it from customers or hackers that make any attempt to abuse the platform.
Even How good the security department is , yet Bug will always occur because there is no perfect site creation meaning there will always a small bug to come this is why OP is asking about players view to find Bug and they will be paid.
Bugs will always exist in a system but if they have an expert security team, I think they can solve and fix the bug so it won't interfere with their business. Casinos may hire experts outside of their security team to detect any vulnerabilities on their website or even their servers because it is for the smooth running of their business. And I'm sure they will prepare more funds to maintain security on their site. And the casino may also provide some reward for players or people who find the bug by accident.

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October 07, 2022, 05:52:36 AM
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I think that gambling sites do not use the opportunity to pay for errors identified by advanced users for the reason that if they publicly announce such an opportunity, this will negatively affect the overall public image of the casino. 
Because such an announcement means the possibility of insufficiently good website software.  It's not worth devs to say so, why should devs spoil their image and, accordingly, lose customers?  Of course they hide possible software errors. 
That is why we do not see such public announcements of rewards for identified bugs.

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October 07, 2022, 06:41:36 AM
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So far the gambling sites have had good security so they probably don't need the bug bounty.
there are many new gambling platforms on this forum that can be trusted and obviously they already have their own development team for bugs on the web.
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October 07, 2022, 07:10:13 AM
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You can personally check for some bugs for the casino you wish to do so and inform them about the same explaining them the whole situation and how it can be exploited.So if it's genuine and there is bug they can reward you depending on how big security issues you have solved.

But if you say about bounties then they have specified team for this purpose now and pay them good to solve and constantly test the bugs on the site so it remains fair so not many offer these rewards now.

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October 07, 2022, 07:15:14 AM
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Isnt it dangerous for gambling platforms to run bug bounties ? Basically they welcome hackers and abusers to test their defense. It will be on users conscience to point on a bug and get $100-$1000 reward or to use exploit and get several times more, or use it until casino notice they are loosing money. If projects run bug bounties it is simpler, they might lose only their own tokens, that might never have value. With casinos, ever bug is loosing money.

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October 07, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

I don't think they need a bug bounty program to test their security. This is because, I feel they have a lot of funds to hire testers, or even a dedicated team of testers for their site.

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October 07, 2022, 10:12:00 AM
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it is their choice mate , the gambling business is wide and each needs big capital so I think that those businesses are better to hire Bounty Hunters to find Bugs because this will also make good profit from saving losses in bugs.
Isnt it dangerous for gambling platforms to run bug bounties ? Basically they welcome hackers and abusers to test their defense. It will be on users conscience to point on a bug and get $100-$1000 reward or to use exploit and get several times more, or use it until casino notice they are loosing money. If projects run bug bounties it is simpler, they might lose only their own tokens, that might never have value. With casinos, ever bug is loosing money.
for once I believe that fortunejack conducted this in the past? year 2020 if I am not mistaken but look at them now?

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October 07, 2022, 11:55:12 AM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.
They might have their own ways of determining the bugs that could be existing in their platforms. So, if you don't see them do that, it's also likely that they're investing more into their security and their own developers are the ones that are finding if there's any fault within their system.

Anyway, as long as the casino is running smoothly and there's no problem found, they only have to maintain the current security that they have and as well as always find a way to upgrade if there's available with their security vendor or provider.

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October 07, 2022, 12:07:29 PM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking?
So far hacking is not a big issue in the casino industry, we seldom see casinos getting hacked, because they are using a third-party script like a White label, so the admin of casinos can concentrate on what matters most and that is to market their casino
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If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

These are old casinos and top casinos in the industry, like Stake.com, Duelbits, Fortunejack there were no news of hacking on these casinos.

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October 07, 2022, 12:22:32 PM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

Maybe because some of casino are confident enough that their casino is totally safe and they have best guys working on security side or maybe even they pay already a white hat hackers to test their security since they think this is much better rather than paying those random guys which doesn't have programming background.

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October 07, 2022, 12:35:30 PM
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I think more than a gambling platforms run a bug bounty it should be the cryptocurrency that should run a bug bounty. I am saying this because of the recent BNB hack.

I also do not think any casino should run such a bounty as they are themselves asking hackers to hack them to find a bug. Just imagine a hacker participate in such a bounty and what he will be able to do with that casino. I am sure none of the casinos would like to go through that situation.



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October 07, 2022, 01:24:27 PM
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Isn't it dangerous for gambling platforms to run bug bounties ? Basically they welcome hackers and abusers to test their defense. It will be on users conscience to point on a bug and get $100-$1000 reward or to use exploit and get several times more, or use it until casino notice they are loosing money. If projects run bug bounties it is simpler, they might lose only their own tokens, that might never have value. With casinos, ever bug is loosing money.
What's more dangerous are those running bugs and potential loopholes that can be exploited by their gamblers. There were already some bug bounties on various projects and casinos before and some users were able to report some bugs and minor exploits on the platform. Although these kinds of bounties are great for finding threats and bugs however only minor reports could have been made as I doubt that major bugs will be reported as it will be much more profitable to abuse it rather than report it.



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October 07, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
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Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.
I think they are hiring best penetration testers out there and some devs to maintain their sites rather than running a bug bounty. I think there are bug bounties in the past but right now it's rarely seen considering how many good developers doing their job securing the system. I can't think of any but most casinos I know haven't suffered any hacking activities lately.
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October 07, 2022, 02:03:56 PM
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At 500 Casino, we pay for bug bounties although it's not publicly mentioned.

A few years back, I discovered a minor bug which could be used to bypass withdraws, and after reporting the reproduction steps to the admin, was rewarded.

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October 07, 2022, 02:07:03 PM
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Casinos should be bug-free and hacker-proof for them to gain the trust of the gambling community, there are casinos with their own created script because many casinos now are on the Whitelabel run platform, it's more cost-effective, easy to manage, and the burden is on the Whitelabel company they are the one who handles everything, that is why we seldom read of casino getting hacked it's not because hackers can't hack their system but they have experts developers to look for a patch 24/7 because that's their business, protecting their platform.

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October 07, 2022, 02:14:49 PM
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As far as I know, there's a bug bounty event happening here in the community and that's the one I experience instead they are now offering some of the reviews right now as part of their promotions some instances there are a chance that they hired already a Quality Assurance tester before releasing in the community to have a better experience. It is better to hire a bounty hunter with experience with a contract so they make sure the information is safe and does not get a data breach for their system.
Reviews campaign is a new replacement to bug bounty as we have, but recently due to new development and demand, the trends have changed and it is no longer the way it used to be that new casinos always have a bug bounty.

But now we have casinos already running on a template that does not require them to need external bug hunters and their security teams are already covering up this space and performing the task of hunting for potential bugs in the system.
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