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October 09, 2022, 01:05:30 PM
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A transparent team is the most decisive move by scammers nowadays and they keep you believe about their false roadmaps by feeding you with lies and propaganda you really have a hard time knowing them because they show their faces when they're talking to their investors but in reality, they already have an escape plan where they exactly know what to do in case they get busted or their coins will crash because of lack of development and exposures.

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October 09, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
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that's why it's important to do research on new crypto projects, they are really openly deceptive and it might be difficult to take them to legal action when they take your investment money away, so during this bear market no one will be able to judge from the important point that already written by the OP in this thread, so my advice during this bear market is to invest in old or well-known crypto projects that are still developing their projects until now, that way can keep you from being scammed and losing money

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October 09, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
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We are now in a era where scam devs don't care about anonymity anymore,  now they aren't willing to hide their faces, they will come out in the open, throw you some videos on YouTube and still run away with your money, if you are a newbie you need to have the following in mind when researching projects. 

I agree with the points that you have made but i don't know if there was a recent event where a publicly known team has scammed it's investors and ran away with the money. In the end the truth is that you can never be 100% sure if the project that you want to invest in is legit or not. The only thing that you can do is to research the project and the people behind it as thoroughly as possible and even then you can become the victim of a scam with all your funds lost. All you can do is minimize the risk of getting victim of a scam but a rest risk will always remain.
Those scammers that really gave away their real name and showed their face will have a very hard time to hide from the authorities though i would guess.
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October 09, 2022, 03:53:41 PM
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2. A audited smart contract project can still scam you.

This will be a big blow if we can not trust auditors anymore. I rely on them to assure myself that a token is good when I see the firm that audited them. The only thing that can make an audited token still scam will be if the process of audit is compromised through corruption. I want to see this type of compromise stopped so that the trust to invest in cryptocurrency will increase. Without trust no business can survive. There are alot of scams in cryptocurrency already and if auditing can not be honest it means we are gone in this.

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October 09, 2022, 06:07:46 PM
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Scammers are trying their best to steal our money in any way possible. They are always adopting new strategies. As a result some of us are getting caught in their net. You have made some very good points here. We have to be careful about them. I think excessive greed is our main enemy. If we keep ourselves safe from greed then such incidents will be reduced in our life.
Scammer one close step smart then then investor how they can steal our money, always have new strategies how to manipulated when building new project cryptocurrency. Seems at the early project launching not any bad thing because running well with their project depend with road map schedule. Here have another intervention from exchange market to make detail research before listing the scammer coin on their exchange market. Although have term or service warning about high risk when investing in cryptocurrency but this way could make close chance for scammer catch much money from investors.

Keep do your own research before investing actually with new project actually have bigger expected planning on their road map schedule list.

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October 09, 2022, 06:20:27 PM
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In principle, now, as before, the principle is used that there will be those who will invest their money, believing in the promoted advertising. Believing that by investing 100 dollars they can get a thousand dollars, people do not even analyze the project. And there can be many such people. What actually achieve those who originally planned to deceive.

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October 09, 2022, 06:45:27 PM
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As a newbie, that's why it is advised to invest in what you can afford to lose in case you fall victim to a scam project. Many times, projects that have a strong team, good utility, nice whitepaper and a lovely plan don't guarantee a project scam free. Nowadays, it is hard to differentiate between a good and bad project that wants to scam investors. No project is to be trusted again whether an old project or a new project. An old project can go soar in the future.

 
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October 09, 2022, 07:01:37 PM
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4. High volume on the listed exchange doesn't make a project clean from going scam.

It depends on which exchanges. If this large volume is on large exchanges, such as Binance, OKX, FTX, then the probability of a scam is minimal. Because listing on such platforms costs a lot of money. Most scammers can not afford such expenses, so they list on some exchanges with small trading volume. But fake volumes are very easy to calculate, just look at the demand for the blockchain space of a given coin.

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October 09, 2022, 11:16:41 PM
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The problem is crypto doesn't have enough regilation framework that will give sanction to the scammers. This is also making report being created to the police is very hard to be processed. Crypto needs regulation but yeah it's not all of things needs to be regulated but this is a very important thing for crypto right now. Scammers reveal their faces to the public just to scam them. That's pretty sad to said that but this is the truth
The regulations are already at work on most of the project, they are already required to disclose their information before putting a good project and you can count on those projects but of course it won’t guarantee any success. If you want to avoid scam projects, don’t deal with the new projects just trade with top coins already listed on most of the exchanges and you can be good, I’ve down with the new projects, i can’t still find a new project that is worth investing for.
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October 09, 2022, 11:17:33 PM
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We are now in a era where scam devs don't care about anonymity anymore,  now they aren't willing to hide their faces, they will come out in the open, throw you some videos on YouTube and still run away with your money, if you are a newbie you need to have the following in mind when researching projects.

1. Visible team members don't mean they are scam free.

At least we have a person to go after if their project scam us.
2. A audited smart contract project can still scam you.

The current smart contract auditing team are just to check the code and does not regulate the project.  They just cite the weaknesses and possible exploit and glitch but are not responsible in stopping a scam.

3. Scammers can spend a lot on their website to make it look attractive just to make you invest your money.

True this kind of practice already existed way back 2017 where lots of scam project show a great website and luring unsuspecting investors into investing on the platform.

4. High volume on the listed exchange doesn't make a project clean from going scam.

Scamming all depends on the decision of the project team so volume has nothing to do with the scam plan.
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October 10, 2022, 04:22:51 AM
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The problem is crypto doesn't have enough regilation framework that will give sanction to the scammers. This is also making report being created to the police is very hard to be processed. Crypto needs regulation but yeah it's not all of things needs to be regulated but this is a very important thing for crypto right now. Scammers reveal their faces to the public just to scam them. That's pretty sad to said that but this is the truth
The regulatory framework is not fully implemented properly for cryptocurrencies, so actions against scammers do not get more attention from the authorities unless the fraud has disturbed many people and resulted in huge losses.

Scammers move from one review project to another, so they are free to create any project to trap their prey. their targets are beginners and people who have a lot of money but neglect their own security.

A new analysis finds consumers have reportedly lost more than $1 billion in cryptocurrencies to fraud since 2021.
The FTC found that: Instagram (32%), Facebook (26%), WhatsApp (9%) and Telegram (7%) were the top social media platforms used for crypto fraudsters.


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October 10, 2022, 08:37:09 AM
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At least we have a person to go after if their project scam us.
I don't know what you mean by at least we have person to go after, do you think you can find them? or do you think they will tell you their actual location? They might reveal their identity but those not mean you will find them, we just have to be very careful so that we won't fall victim.
As a newbie, that's why it is advised to invest in what you can afford to lose in case you fall victim to a scam project.

You are right, always invest what you can afford to lose, but to be honest no matter how small the amount you are scammed, you will feel bad. if am being scammed, no matter how small the amount am always feeling bad, not because of the money I lose but for the reason that someone is smarter than me.
it is hard to differentiate between a good and bad project that wants to scam investors. No project is to be trusted again whether an old project or a new project. An old project can go soar in the future.
It's really hard to identify a good project from bad one, some projects looks so real, but at the end it ends up to be scam, in this current bear market I believe most projects that are launched are scam project, that's why we should be careful with new projects.
I know even old project can't be trusted, but I still believe it's better to invest in old project than you investing in new projects.

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October 10, 2022, 09:03:50 AM
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I agree with the thread title that scammers use different ways to scam there victims. I think you know about twitch announcing the ban of gambling stream because of scammers using the platform to scam money. It's not just in gambling but also in investing coins or tokens. Just as what the post previous about what you have to do like investing in new coins/hype coins and old coins is very true. Not all hype are legit because some are hiding behind the hype to scam people with their so called project.
For a long time, no one would think about the fate of people as long as they earned money. I think they have lost their morale because they can openly deceive people. Not only in the cryptocurrency world but we can see things like this in everyday life. They even dare to take someone's right to life just because of the money they are after. This has become commonplace, even those closest to us may have bad plans for us. Now we have to be more careful even with our closest people.

In life there are always people who will do evil to us, human nature in general is dislike of us, always be sure to choose friends from people we have known for a long time, and for investment suggestions, of course we must have good analytical skills so that it does not depend on Others' opinions.

Therefore we must not be too greedy and excessively obsessed with money, because if we get enslaved by money, there we will use any means
to make money. Even though the way to make money can hurt other people, it is not a problem for people who are enslaved by money.
I once heard advice from someone that we shouldn't trust humans 100%, because sometimes humans are scary creatures. That's why so many
in the crypto world we find scams, because if people are obsessed with money, they are willing to do anything to make money. So we really have
to be careful if we get investment offers from other people, don't immediately trust anything that other people offer, especially if there is an offer
that is to be good to be true, that is one of the characteristics of fraud. Like you said we have to do our own research and analysis to make sure
we don't make the wrong decisions. Most people are deceived in the crypto world they are too lazy to learn to do research and analysis, so they
invest relying on other people's opinions.

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October 10, 2022, 12:58:38 PM
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Presently, scam has become a lot more critical than ever before. It is as if some people are head bent to scam people - coming all out to steal. IMO, it appears the era of Decentralized Finance witnessed a lot of scam activities especially aspect of fake tokens being received in wallet - what has never happened before. It has become really bad. We all should be more cautious especially newbies in every move we make with crypto assets.

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October 10, 2022, 04:44:29 PM
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We are now in a era where scam devs don't care about anonymity anymore,  now they aren't willing to hide their faces, they will come out in the open, throw you some videos on YouTube and still run away with your money, if you are a newbie you need to have the following in mind when researching projects.


The fact is that investors have become less willing to invest in projects with an anonymous team, so scammers can show their faces on AMA and YouTube videos. Scammers are getting craftier and more sophisticated every year, so even an experienced investor can fall into a trap.

Investors known their identity so well but the problem is they were living in the different countries, that makes investors feel so difficult to deal with those scammers who stolen their money. Scammers didn't care anymore about their identity. These days it's very hard to know whethera new project was a scam or not. it's caused by even when team revealed their face and it can't give guarantee if the project was not a scam project.

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October 10, 2022, 05:58:31 PM
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Presently, scam has become a lot more critical than ever before...

Scammers have always been and will always be, as long as people have such a vicious quality as greed. Therefore, as a rule, people do not conduct a full-fledged evaluation of the project before investing, when they are offered the opportunity to make quick money in a limited period of time.

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Many scam projects are now using hype projects with their popularity. I mean that we have found so many new projects created by popular people, but the token or coin is directly falling down to be shit and dead coin even after listing. This is also called a scam project with their name, although they always ensure that their project is legit, in fact, they can't do anything to make their project back to be on track and good again. They will directly leave the project because they have got the money.

But it is related other scam projects with anonymity, this has been since a long time ago. Scam project is actually quite easy to avoid, but many newbies are always trapped because they are really attracted with the high profit promised by the devs.
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Scammers have always been and will always be, as long as people have such a vicious quality as greed. Therefore, as a rule, people do not conduct a full-fledged evaluation of the project before investing, when they are offered the opportunity to make quick money in a limited period of time.
Scammer one step close smart than investor and always success building new project and get intersted respond from many investor, lately scammer will retired if they can get new investor want to invest at their coins. Many time found when failure or get scam woth previous project, the scammer build and make another new project but easy for him get reapind from many investor want to participant at his project. Need to be smart investor never give second chance for scammer by joining with their another peoject after failure before.

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We are now in a era where scam devs don't care about anonymity anymore,  now they aren't willing to hide their faces, they will come out in the open, throw you some videos on YouTube and still run away with your money, if you are a newbie you need to have the following in mind when researching projects.

1. Visible team members don't mean they are scam free.
2. A audited smart contract project can still scam you.
3. Scammers can spend a lot on their website to make it look attractive just to make you invest your money.
4. High volume on the listed exchange doesn't make a project clean from going scam.

I agree, they are targeting people who are new to the world of cryptocurrency since they know these kinds of people are eager to double or triple their money and not think that it can be a scam.

This kind of scam project should not be listed on the exchange since it obviously scams and to be good to be true all of their features and benefits for investors.

But, it is still risky and they are entertaining this kind of scam project which will turn to their loss.
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October 11, 2022, 10:38:24 AM
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We are now in a era where scam devs don't care about anonymity anymore,  now they aren't willing to hide their faces, they will come out in the open, throw you some videos on YouTube and still run away with your money, if you are a newbie you need to have the following in mind when researching projects.

1. Visible team members don't mean they are scam free.
2. A audited smart contract project can still scam you.
3. Scammers can spend a lot on their website to make it look attractive just to make you invest your money.
4. High volume on the listed exchange doesn't make a project clean from going scam.

This topic would have been more better at the Beginner and help section, maybe to clearly enlighten those that are curious to invest in a newly birth projects. These guideline have to take proper record of for anyone wanting to invest, something I observed about most projects is they are too real to scam people at this level you might felt so released with the project team at last they turned to be scammed projects.

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