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October 08, 2022, 07:04:43 PM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
^It depend on the gambling casino in the end, I saw a few casinos send a refund to their users right after they are closing in their business. But it is different from what you have said the same on Binance, and I don't know if Binance either if there is truly a reimbursement fund that will get hacked or if that is only their marketing strategy to lure people to use their site. For me, there is no such website that has a truly reimbursement fund even Binance cannot provide evidence that they are holding that fund. So I think just gamble only at reputable gambling casinos.
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October 08, 2022, 11:59:40 PM |
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So far I have never seen any online crypto casino that has been hacked. There were few that said that they were attacked (DDoS), but never been hacked. On refund thing, since I do not have any resources of any hacked crypto casino, I can't tell if there are companies that refunded their customer due to their site being hacked. Regardless, I think if they are concerned with their users, I'm sure they will.
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October 09, 2022, 12:56:52 AM |
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1, I don't think casinos have a reimbursement kind of thing unless stated on their TOS, heck afaik being hacked is included in "unforeseen" circumstances which don't let them take responsibility when you play on their site afaik. 2, Casinos are notoriously hard to hack since the system they have itself is pretty much tried and tested for years, and most hacks anyway are insider jobs instead of from the outside. I've seen reports of bugs that can take advantage of the system, but being hacked/compromised? Nope. As a scam though? A lot.
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October 09, 2022, 02:01:09 AM |
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So far in my tenure here in Bitcointalk, I have not read any news of casinos that has been hacked or I missed that news if there are any, it's very rare compared to exchanges that utilize hot wallet and on your question will casino refund their players, it depends on the discretion of the casinos because nowhere you can find in their TOS that your fund is secured and you will get refunded if their casino got hacked, they are very confident on the security of their casino, you should ask in the casino you're playing if they will do refund so you will have a peace of mind.
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October 09, 2022, 10:43:23 AM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
IMHO, gambling sites doesn't have feature like SAFU but they don't keep all the funds in their hot wallets, most of the investors funds will be moved to the cold storage so its like 70 to 80% of their funds will be safe even in the total hack. But the question you asked is really urging so in future casinos will have feature like this to make their customers feel safe and lure more people with such satisfied customers? I also believe the reason why there's nothing like SAFU in gambling sites is because they really do move their funds to their cold storage. There may be abuses in terms of bonuses or rewards, but hacking is not very often you can hear from gambling sites. If in case of hacking incident, I think they are fast enough to detect the anomaly. Though there was one gaming site, Axie Infinity, where hackers got away $620M in crypto. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-stole-620-million-from-axie-infinity-via-fake-job-interviews/As I mentioned earlier casinos recognise this idea and become first to implement, casinos are also growing big like exchanges so stay in the competition they have to give better user experience and ensuring the safety of funds. As a matter of fact the casinos are less likely hacked means they are having better security system compared to the cryptocurrency exchanges?
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October 09, 2022, 01:02:25 PM |
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you should ask in the casino you're playing if they will do refund so you will have a peace of mind.
This is the best thing to do. OP can ask their customer support about it. If they say that they will pay their users incase of hacking then it should be stated on their ToS to serve as assurance to its users. I do think that gambling websites have more layers of security than crypto exchanges. So far since I learned about crypto, I haven't heard of them being hacked particularly those who we know that have a good reputation.
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October 09, 2022, 01:30:49 PM |
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Exchange is an asset storage platform (indirect function) that will only attract the attention of wallet specialist hackers and casino is a gaming platform that will attract the attention of game system vulnerability hackers. From here you can see the difference, of course they will be more concerned with the security of their respective platform functions. And as far as I know, the average casino platform prohibits users from only depositing funds in the account for more than a certain period of time without activity.
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October 09, 2022, 01:32:46 PM |
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So far both questions are still doubtful in me too if it has but likely number 1 question is there's any of that. For casino online hacks that happen in the past, as I research, it was more like data leaks and that hackers are just demanding some money, installing ransomwares and many more tricks up on these hackers sleeves.
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October 09, 2022, 02:30:02 PM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
Are you storing a large number of funds in casinos, traders are doing this for obvious reasons, but gamblers seldom do this, many players use all their bankroll to bet or if they won an amount they will withdraw the amount so they can use it or enjoy the money or not tempted to play all of it, on reimbursement I don't think the casino can do that because no casinos have this on their term or they even stated it, as hacking is out of the questions on casinos, whereas on exchanges it is very prevalent.
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October 09, 2022, 02:43:19 PM |
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you should ask in the casino you're playing if they will do refund so you will have a peace of mind.
This is the best thing to do. OP can ask their customer support about it. If they say that they will pay their users incase of hacking then it should be stated on their ToS to serve as assurance to its users. I do think that gambling websites have more layers of security than crypto exchanges. So far since I learned about crypto, I haven't heard of them being hacked particularly those who we know that have a good reputation. Actually there is no need to ask that on customer since its already stated on the ToS of every casino under the liability. Most of the casino has a special provision they don’t give any warranty on any loss of the player including when the business is close. There is a clesr note in the ToS that you are accepting all written aggrement for there services including the liability part since the user has a freedom to use or not the casino. There is no such thing as insurance in casino because this business is on hih risk. You are definitely already started gambling the moment you deposit your balance in there.
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October 09, 2022, 03:26:00 PM |
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So far I have never seen any online crypto casino that has been hacked. There were few that said that they were attacked (DDoS), but never been hacked. On refund thing, since I do not have any resources of any hacked crypto casino, I can't tell if there are companies that refunded their customer due to their site being hacked. Regardless, I think if they are concerned with their users, I'm sure they will. I've never seen too most likely they have just an attack due to some reason in the server being down but they immediately fix these issues as possible because of the players continuously playing, and also incase of the current game players they can create a ticket or report those to the members which is right here as a representative, that's why it is good to check if the reputation of the gambling casino is good even though they have license still there's a chance that they can make an exit scams to the players who made a deposit to the platform.
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October 09, 2022, 04:10:15 PM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
Honestly, I don't focus that much on details like this on a casino because It's rare and as far as I remember I don't hear any hacks that made a casino fall into bankruptcy. We all know that exchanges are the one that hackers are always targeting but there are casino experiencing some exploits to their own system just like what happened to primedice before that someone figured out how to win their own game. I also don't know if a casino offering this kind of reimbursement system but I've never saw this kind of statement on TOS of every casino I played.
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October 10, 2022, 07:41:01 AM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
I am not sure about the online casino reserve funds and in case of hacking, if it concerns casino wallets, then it is unlikely that users can hope for compensation, only if it is a reliable casino, then you can claim it through the court. For example, after the hacking in 2018, as a result of a series of DDoS attacks by Americas Cardroom, several scheduled tournaments were canceled, including the insanely popular Million Dollar Sunday, and they simply refunded the players their entry fees, but the one who was in a big plus at that time just saw a zero balance. https://twitter.com/ACR_POKER/status/990415112245792768
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October 10, 2022, 08:00:57 AM |
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(1) I believe any big and trustworthy casinos are willing to refund for the gamblers as long as the hack doesn't make them become bankrupt, similar like Binance who have SAFU if they're got hacked and the hacker can get the whole Binance money, there's no way for CZ to refund.
(2) Based on my experience, I never read any news if there's a casino in this forum got hacked so far. I think fiat casino who have a gambling license have such story, because licensed fiat casino is really hard to create due to strict rules and there's a responsibility from the regulation.
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October 10, 2022, 08:27:19 AM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case?
You can read all the TOS of the casinos here but you cannot find that in any of their terms, I guess you're asking this because you're storing a lot of money in casinos which is not recommended when you deposit money it becomes a part of your bankroll and you are expected to play with it and you can win or lose, we are not in a trading platform, where you are not going to lose all your money, this is gambling and your chances to lose money is very high compared to trading, so I doubt if casinos will refund you in case of a hack, but that casino will lose their reputation because gamblers expect casinos to be hacker proof.
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October 10, 2022, 08:40:18 AM |
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you should ask in the casino you're playing if they will do refund so you will have a peace of mind.
This is the best thing to do. OP can ask their customer support about it. If they say that they will pay their users incase of hacking then it should be stated on their ToS to serve as assurance to its users. I do think that gambling websites have more layers of security than crypto exchanges. So far since I learned about crypto, I haven't heard of them being hacked particularly those who we know that have a good reputation. Actually there is no need to ask that on customer since its already stated on the ToS of every casino under the liability. Most of the casino has a special provision they don’t give any warranty on any loss of the player including when the business is close. There is a clesr note in the ToS that you are accepting all written aggrement for there services including the liability part since the user has a freedom to use or not the casino. There is no such thing as insurance in casino because this business is on hih risk. You are definitely already started gambling the moment you deposit your balance in there. But sadly, not many customers are willing to take the time to read the ToS of each casino because they are tempted to play right away and see their luck. If the casino does not provide any guarantees to its users, users do not need to keep a balance that is too large because it will be too risky later. It's better just to deposit as much money as we can afford so that if one day the casino closes its business for some reason, they won't be too sad and sorry. We must realize this because no business can run forever. And even though the business will not be as popular as it is now, we will be okay because the risk we accept is not too big.
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October 10, 2022, 02:47:55 PM |
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This is the best thing to do. OP can ask their customer support about it. If they say that they will pay their users incase of hacking then it should be stated on their ToS to serve as assurance to its users.
I do think that gambling websites have more layers of security than crypto exchanges. So far since I learned about crypto, I haven't heard of them being hacked particularly those who we know that have a good reputation.
Actually there is no need to ask that on customer since its already stated on the ToS of every casino under the liability. Most of the casino has a special provision they don’t give any warranty on any loss of the player including when the business is close. There is a clesr note in the ToS that you are accepting all written aggrement for there services including the liability part since the user has a freedom to use or not the casino. There is no such thing as insurance in casino because this business is on high risk. You are definitely already started gambling the moment you deposit your balance in there. But sadly, not many customers are willing to take the time to read the ToS of each casino because they are tempted to play right away and see their luck. If the casino does not provide any guarantees to its users, users do not need to keep a balance that is too large because it will be too risky later. It's better just to deposit as much money as we can afford so that if one day the casino closes its business for some reason, they won't be too sad and sorry. We must realize this because no business can run forever. And even though the business will not be as popular as it is now, we will be okay because the risk we accept is not too big. If the customer or gambler wasn't able to read the ToS of the platform, then the casino is at no fault or responsible if their account gets hacked and would like to request some compensation. It's our responsibility to know the ToS of any platform we will be engaging on whether it's a gambling platform or not. If in any case, you don't want to read their ToS then I agree that one thing that you can do is ask their customer support either on live chat or email and ask for all the necessary information that you would like to know to avoid violating any rules on the ToS. We all know the risk of using any platform as a wallet whether it's an exchange platform or a gambling platform, which is why if we our funds to be secure then we can always deposit it in our paper wallets.
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October 10, 2022, 10:14:28 PM |
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I have been disbursing more time on FortuneJack this days since it's been suggested to me on this forum but a question pop up in my head today and I think its better to ask, (1) Binance exchange has collateral fund in case any hack takes place or users lose funds, is there any gambling website that has the same just in case? (2) is there any gambling website that got hacked and reimbursed their users in the past and they still functioning till date?.
So far i havent seen one for a gambling site that had been hacked but only into that Primedice exploit which causes on withdrawing lots of bitcoin but after than i havent seen major hacks involving gambling platforms When it comes to reimbursement or something talks about compensation or giving back into those who are affected, then it would really be that varying on a certain platform.We cant point off some fingers on which one does have the plans on giving some money into those people who had been affected or just simply tells that there's nothing that they could do since all of the funds were hacked. It is very situational and does vary on teams decisions on what they would gonna take.
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October 11, 2022, 12:27:00 PM |
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This is the best thing to do. OP can ask their customer support about it. If they say that they will pay their users incase of hacking then it should be stated on their ToS to serve as assurance to its users.
I do think that gambling websites have more layers of security than crypto exchanges. So far since I learned about crypto, I haven't heard of them being hacked particularly those who we know that have a good reputation.
Actually there is no need to ask that on customer since its already stated on the ToS of every casino under the liability. Most of the casino has a special provision they don’t give any warranty on any loss of the player including when the business is close. There is a clesr note in the ToS that you are accepting all written aggrement for there services including the liability part since the user has a freedom to use or not the casino. There is no such thing as insurance in casino because this business is on high risk. You are definitely already started gambling the moment you deposit your balance in there. But sadly, not many customers are willing to take the time to read the ToS of each casino because they are tempted to play right away and see their luck. If the casino does not provide any guarantees to its users, users do not need to keep a balance that is too large because it will be too risky later. It's better just to deposit as much money as we can afford so that if one day the casino closes its business for some reason, they won't be too sad and sorry. We must realize this because no business can run forever. And even though the business will not be as popular as it is now, we will be okay because the risk we accept is not too big. If the customer or gambler wasn't able to read the ToS of the platform, then the casino is at no fault or responsible if their account gets hacked and would like to request some compensation. It's our responsibility to know the ToS of any platform we will be engaging on whether it's a gambling platform or not. If in any case, you don't want to read their ToS then I agree that one thing that you can do is ask their customer support either on live chat or email and ask for all the necessary information that you would like to know to avoid violating any rules on the ToS. We all know the risk of using any platform as a wallet whether it's an exchange platform or a gambling platform, which is why if we our funds to be secure then we can always deposit it in our paper wallets. And that is what happens to most gamblers who are immediately attracted by the many bonuses that the casino will give. They forget this important part and immediately deposit their money and play with the hope that they can win a lot of money from gambling games. And when they get into problems like, for example, not being able to withdraw their winnings, they will immediately complain and scold the casino because they have withheld the money even though it was their own fault. And yes, when it comes to our funds, it will be safer if we hold them ourselves and not use other places to store them. They can do something with the funds we have and we can't do anything about it.
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October 12, 2022, 01:02:01 AM |
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Exchange is an asset storage platform (indirect function) that will only attract the attention of wallet specialist hackers and casino is a gaming platform that will attract the attention of game system vulnerability hackers. From here you can see the difference, of course they will be more concerned with the security of their respective platform functions. And as far as I know, the average casino platform prohibits users from only depositing funds in the account for more than a certain period of time without activity.
Asset storage for the exchange owners maybe but not for the users as its risky to store funds there but even with gambling, storing funds is also not recommended and like you said there are even gambling sites which restricts deposits from users who just made their gambling accounts as a kind of wallet but isn't it strange? Are those people not aware that there are separate crypto wallets which they can use or maybe they are criminals whose goal is to launder the money later on and slowly withdraw the money to their desired wallets. Not just a gambling site can restrict a deposit but they will also restrict withdrawals without doing extra actions such as KYC and doing some wagers.
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