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August 27, 2023, 04:50:48 PM
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Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection?
Yes, I was referring to these two...

  • If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.
    You have a point, but OP mentioned in another thread that his/her "goal is to help users choose the correct wallet to buy" and if some of them are already discontinued, then perhaps they shouldn't be in the main list... Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.

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August 28, 2023, 03:42:46 PM
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Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.
Oh, so when you say they have been discontinued, it's like with Ledger's Nano S model. The company isn't officially selling the device. However, you can still buy it from resellers that have it in stock, and it still works and is supported with the update for the time being. I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.

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September 02, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
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- People with the old models will probably like to compare their devices with other wallets, to decide if upgrade or not.
You have a point and as much as I hate to give more spotlight to Ledger's products, I think Ledger Nano S should also be listed at the very end [FWIW, I hate it but a lot of users still have/use it in the community].

I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.
It's my bad [I should've explained it in a better way] Smiley

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September 02, 2023, 11:03:00 PM
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Under the "Privacy" category, you can add "Coinjoin" to the Trezor Model T and Trezor One: https://content.trezor.io/coinjoin

Coinjoins allow you to combine your UTXOs with other users into a giant transaction, making it no longer possible to determine which inputs created any output: https://mempool.space/tx/d465033214fd2309dcce5a90c45fcaa788aa4394ee36debe07aad8d8a37907d2

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You are right, Mr. Kruw.
Coinjoins are a good invention. One must make sure to use a respected software, though. Because a privacy tool that looks like one on the surface, but works with companies that deanonymize users and investigates the origins of their UTXOs isn't to be trusted. Don't do coinjoins with Wasabi and its default zkSNACKs coordinator because each of your UTXOs will be sent to blockchain analysis. Your privacy will be invaded to investigate if you deserve to have privacy in the first place.   

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Yes, I would like to add that section. I am starting to research if there are other hardware wallets supporting coinjoin: https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1698349710845640934
I am pretty sure Passport hardware wallet is fully supporting Coinjoin with Samourai Wallet Whirlpool implementation.
There is even blog article written last year on foundationdevices website with clear instructions how to use it, and they even mentioned Payjoin here:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/03/passport-coinjoin/

Another article How to Interact with Bitcoin Privately:
https://foundationdevices.com/2022/05/interacting-with-bitcoin-privately/

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September 07, 2023, 06:22:09 PM
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Added new features to the software & hardware wallets comparison websites
I wrote my suggestion about adding Krux hardware wallet few months ago, but you probably missed it or forgot about it.
Krux is a good alternative for SeeSigner, and it can be used with QR codes as airgapped device, using M5StickV or Maix Amigo.


Since you started adding DIY devices, you can consider adding Krux wallet.
This project is smaller than SeedSigner or Specter, but it's very affordable and base device M5StickV looks very similar like Jade wallet and Maix Amigo is amazing.
You can find more information about Krux in my topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350905.0

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September 13, 2023, 09:16:12 AM
Last edit: September 13, 2023, 09:27:01 AM by dkbit98
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Added new SecuX Shield BIO hardware wallet
Maybe you should add word SecuX in front because it's currently separated from all other SecuX wallets on your website.
I always liked design of hardware wallets in form of credit cards, and SecuX Shield BIO has nice additional e-ink display, but I am not a fan of biometric fingerprints for hardware wallets.

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One more hardware wallet you can add is new SafePal X1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466619

I added it to my backlog. I need to prioritize because there are lots of things to add to the website.
Krux wallet was released way before Secux Shield BIO, so please find some time to include it.
It's much more important to spread the word about open source DIY wallets, than about closed source products.

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September 20, 2023, 08:37:01 PM
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Two new SafePal additions to our hardware wallets comparison:
- SafePal S1 Pro
- SafePal X1
You still don't know exact dimensions and weight for new model Safepal X1?
Another thing according to their website, available connection methods are USB and Bluetooth, that means that USB can probably be used for data also.

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Thanks for finally adding Krux Wink

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- Added lots of new filters
Quite impressed with how well you managed to squeeze in those filters Wink

Two new SafePal additions to our hardware wallets comparison:
Now anyone can collaborate by adding missing data, fixing errors, or adding new wallets.
I'm not that good with GitHub stuff, so here are a few corrections:

  • The other day, I mentioned in "another thread" that X1 comes with a battery capacity of 200mAh + it's no longer in the pre-order phase [you might want to change its lable].
  • S1 Pro has a 320*320 resolution [on the "same product page", they're claiming that's also the case with the non-pro variant].

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I open-sourced the Hardware & Software Wallets databases.
You really did amazing work in last few months, website is really useful and not only for hardware wallets, but for software wallets, books, etc.
I see you have seed backup section, so are you planning to add more information, detials and prices for that category as well?
Note that there are much more seed backup products available than hardware wallets Wink

Current selection is not that great:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
Almost identical dimensions like Trezor One Smiley

Are you sure that for Trezor 3 Passphrase entry is on hardware wallet, the same way like on Trezor T?
One member speculated that it remained the same like on Trezor One, that is only via computer or mobile.
I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.


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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
The screen sizes appear to be wrong [it should be 0.96" (the same also applies to the Model One)].

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry
They mentioned in "this blog post [refer to the second paragraph in number three]" that we can enter all of the above things directly on the device itself Smiley

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I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.
Their medium blog post confirms that all sensitive data are now to be entered on the hardware wallet and not on the computer which is the case with the Trezor One. That goes for the seed, PIN, and the passphrase. I feel like they should have explained this better on the website where they only mention passphrase entry on the device.

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With the Trezor Safe 3, you can enter your recovery seed, pin, or passphrase directly on the device, maintaining the offline status of sensitive data.
  https://blog.trezor.io/trezor-safe-3-makes-crypto-self-custody-easier-than-ever-heres-how-7cb97198f7e9

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October 15, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
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Amazing work man, i didnt know we have so many hardware wallets in the market, you know sometimes one only knows the most renamed brands. Im gonna read that one, because i want to buy someone. And also good to see a people like you into this place, you are welcome.

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October 21, 2023, 07:46:20 AM
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Perhaps you can edit the price for the Seedsigner on https://thebitcoinhole.com/.
You still have it set at $80. If assembled, the Seedsigner now costs $88 in silver and $93 in all other colors. If you ship it as a kit, it costs $93 regardless of the color. It doesn't make sense to me that the assembled silver Seedsigner model is cheaper than the one you have to assemble yourself. Huh But it is what it is. If you add all the accessories to it (USB cable, MicroSD card, and QR code pack), the price goes up to $98. 

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October 21, 2023, 01:50:08 PM
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I still see $80 price in their page
Are we using the same source/shop or perhaps talking about different ones? Is this the one you are using https://btc-hardware-solutions.square.site/product/orange_pill_kit/6?cs=true&cst=custom ?

It does say $80 to $98 but that's before you make any of the required selections. Select between the non-assembled and assembled unit in the first drop-down menu and the price goes up to $93. It's $88 if you select the grey device as I said previously. So, you have to ignore the initial price range you see once the page loads because no unit is selected at the time, which also doesn't make sense.

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October 22, 2023, 06:49:48 AM
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Yes, using the same website. If you select "Do not add QR cards",  no microsd and no usb cable, the price is 80.
You are absolutely right. I am getting the same price now. They did it in a very weird way, though. The moment you select between the assembled and non-assembled unit, it takes the price to $93 even before you make the other selections (QR cards, micro SD card, USB cable). And those aren't set to Yes by default. When you decide against those, it starts lowering the price and eventually reaches $80. My bad. No changes need to be done on your website.

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According to the list there is a Bitcoin-only firmware for the new Keystone 3 (Pro).
According to https://keyst.one/firmware this is not true:
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November 07, 2023, 11:38:07 AM
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@maxirosson
Yesterday, Ellipal "announced" the second generation of their Titan hardware wallet [ELLIPAL Titan 2.0] and based on "this comparison page", here are the differences with the previous gen:

  • EAL 5+ Secure Element [couldn't find any information about its model]
  • 24 words seed phrase
  • Linux operating system
  • 3-minute update time [as opposed to 30 minutes]
  • Full HD IPS Display
  • $169 price tag

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