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October 10, 2022, 10:25:35 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

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October 10, 2022, 10:31:01 AM
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Cryptocurrencies makes transactions easier and make cross border casino deposit and withdrawal very easy, unlike when I was using bet365 that take like 2 weeks before they credit my account.

Most common casinos are now centralized and they are requiring KYC, but people are using the casinos and they are well trustworthy. As far as gambling is concerned, I am not bothered with anonymity, just as I was using fiat casinos before, and I like the fast withdrawal.

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October 10, 2022, 10:34:22 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me is the utmost top priority and I prefer casinos who ask KYC only when you withdraw a certain amount of money which usually is somewhat high.Even when I win big I withdraw in small chunks I have no problems whatsoever by withdrawing with 0.01 Bitcoin which is not a relevant amount nowadays equivalent in dollars.

I have withdrawn a lot of times from reputable casinos who may ask KYC only if that big amount withdraw is requested or they have some suspicions about your account,so far they have not asked me KYC or anything,they just let the withdraws through.

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October 10, 2022, 10:42:10 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me the anonymity of online game is not really important. I don't mind if people know that I am a gambler, all of my friends and my whole family knows it for years already. Also gambling is legal and quite common in my country, in my city there are tons of small slot places and sports betting cafes. Every young man here as at least gambled once in his life. If I had to choose between anonymity and safety I would always go for safety in an online casino. I mainly prefer crypto casinos because it's easy to deposit and withdraw money, and it gives me a chance to increase my crypto holdings.
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October 10, 2022, 10:56:45 AM
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Anyone who choose casinos that has a rule about mandatory KYC aren't care with their anonymity anymore.

Most of users in this forum are wearing KYC casino signature which mean they're promoting it and of course they're already start observing the casino and try to gamble. If they're not gamble on the casino where they promote, I'd say those users aren't a gamblers at all.

People are want licensed casinos, of course they need to follow the regulations to enable KYC rule.

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October 10, 2022, 10:57:06 AM
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My anonymity in regard to gambling depends on the platform itself as I don't really want to provide any personal information or KYC however, I already did on some platforms that I personally trust and have been a user for a long time. I've been with more than 15 online casinos already and I've done only 2 or 3 KYC on these gambling platforms since most of my gambling activities are from those websites.

So far, I've only encountered 3 casinos that asked me for KYC to be able to regain access to my account and I'd just let it go since I don't really trust those websites. But on most casinos that I haven't did the KYC, they just allow me to gamble until now, probably because of the amount I've gambled.

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October 10, 2022, 11:03:06 AM
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Anonymity is the primary reason why I dabbled with crypto gambling in the first place which is why it matters a lot to me. I most probably wouldn't have shifted to crypto gambling from FIAT gambling if it weren't for the anonymity factor.

This is also why I detest any form of mandatory KYC and avoid casinos that enforce such centralised policies.

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October 10, 2022, 11:07:06 AM
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Gambling is a choice and not what we say is by force or by impulse to do. It is those who want to be secret about it that will concern so much about the anonymity of their person or status.

There can be some reason people do stay anonymous like especially married people who want the wife and family knowing about it, the clergy sure will prefer to stay away from the public and gamble and we know the reason. The higher people that people are looking up to in the society. Those that win big also can decide anonymity because they don't like public to know about them.  Apart from them , it doesn't matter you staying anonymous in gambling when you are not forced to do it.
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October 10, 2022, 11:27:55 AM
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Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
The anonymity that many may seek when gambling may not necessarily be concerned with the casino but people. Some people who do not like to physically visit a casino maybe to avoid stereotype or be tagged as irresponsible by people who do not understand, or may judge them due to their position, online gambling with crypto offers that anonymity that they desire.

Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?
You should be careful while pursuing anonymity on gambling platforms. So you don't make it cloud your judgement/perception, and then you subscribe for an online gambling platform that turns out to be a scam but you couldn't detect it because you liked the fact that they did not ask you for any form of verification.

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October 10, 2022, 11:53:27 AM
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I have withdrawn a lot of times from reputable casinos who may ask KYC only if that big amount withdraw is requested or they have some suspicions about your account,so far they have not asked me KYC or anything,they just let the withdraws through.
Make sense, this is a casino people usually preferred.

Although, the OP is asking the importance of anonymity, this  case doesn't suit as providing the KYC is contradicting to anonymity.

Well, as long as there is a reputed casino that doesn't require KYC then why not plus a deposit transaction from a custodial wallet is enough for being anonymous (IMO).

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October 10, 2022, 12:01:18 PM
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Anonymity when gambling using crypto can make us hide behind a curtain so that people around us will not know about our gambling activities. We can also protect our identity in gambling because we can send money from wallets that support anonymity.

I use crypto to gamble at crypto casinos because crypto casinos don't ask for our identity. But the government doesn't like this and is asking casinos to KYC on their members.
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October 10, 2022, 12:09:56 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Anonymity is very important to me so far none of the casinos I signup and plays asked me to do KYC maybe because I am not a high roller and I'm always logged in to the same computer and IP that is the reason why Cryptocurrency adoption of casinos becomes popular because of the anonymity they provided for every player, but always expect to be asked KYC you just never know, they have it in their terms that they will ask KYC under some circumstances they stated in their TOS.
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October 10, 2022, 12:24:15 PM
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You might feel not secure while dealing with cryptocurrency but I have to say to you is the most convenient way to gamble with, with cryptos you can make deposit of btc or any crypto currency and then withdraw with another cryptocurrencies of your choice, this doesn't applicable to local betting shop where you only make deposit and withdraw with your local currency only.

In online gambling you must take note to adhere strictly to their rules and regulations in terms of kyc compliance which is also one major thing which you can't skip or shy from, nowadays people don't like exposing their real identities to gambling site.
If you wanna gamble online with cryptocurrency all you needs is to get the best rated cryptocurrency wallet where to store your fund or making an account in trusted and reliable exchange to fund your betting account otherwise you could use p2p to fund your online casino account.

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October 10, 2022, 12:49:39 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


I would say it's very very important, at least for me! There are multiple countries in Asia where gambling is legally banned. So there is always a risk factor. So staying anonymous is very important for the gamblers from such countries. No KYC rule 8s very important and that's one of the major decision making factor for many people while choosing a gambling platform.

Whenever, there is a new platform appears in the market, that's the most frequently asked question in this forum whether there is a requirement of KYC or not!

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October 10, 2022, 12:51:06 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


This is the privilege of playing in Cryptocurrency based casinos, you are not exposed and you are not in danger of getting your vital information sold in the black market, anonymity in gambling is very important for players it keeps you safe from having your financial capability and your status, that is why the Cryptocurrency based casinos are on the rise, majority of players will always choose protection and they can get this protection through anonimity.


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October 10, 2022, 01:24:58 PM
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This is the privilege of playing in Cryptocurrency based casinos, you are not exposed and you are not in danger of getting your vital information sold in the black market, anonymity in gambling is very important for players it keeps you safe from having your financial capability and your status, that is why the Cryptocurrency based casinos are on the rise, majority of players will always choose protection and they can get this protection through anonimity.

I'm not sure about this because nowadays most of casinos has KYC, I'm not saying the casinos sold your data on the dark market, but if the casino gets Hacked then the personal data of their users could get exposed to the bad guys and sold in the dark market.

Cryptocasinos doesn't provided anonymity at all, they need to know who their users are to avoid money laundering, it's one of the rules from the license providers.

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Anonymity in gambling is somewhat close to its end as most gambling sites now are requiring KYC. But never say it was a problem unless it was not a trusted site which most people are worried about. Whether we like it or not, a time will come KYC is mandatory, and puts no excuse for us not to do this if we want to gamble. As long as we are using trusted gambling sites, we believe that our personal identities are safe.
Some people say they are afraid about their identities sold in the market, that might happen if we handed our KYC to strangers and scam sites.



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October 10, 2022, 02:35:57 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Who would not want anonymity when dealing with gambling, when you are anonymous you are comfortable knowing that your sensitive information is safe, if you're working in a government financial institution you don't want to be bribed by unscrupulous casinos from exposing who you are and what position you're holding so if what extend gamblers want anonymity they want total anonymity as much as the casino can give them.

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It's true that most crypto casino now is doing KYC and the reputable once are also requiring it. I don't like KYC, Well it's for the majority. I miss the days where most crypto casino is not requiring KYC from their gamblers, compared to our current time where it is normal for crypto casino to collect identification from their customer especially if you are doing large withdrawals. A gambler should always be ready to give up their identity when they plan to play on casinos.
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


being anonymous when playing gambling is important IMO, my country strictly prohibits anything in the form of gambling, and those who violate it will be severely punished, it's funny if my house is visited by the police just because they know the online gambling activities that I do.
I have a family that I love very much, I don't want their future to be ruined just because of a small stupidity that I did that's why I chose to be anonymous. being anonymous makes happier.



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October 10, 2022, 04:16:28 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


As I’m leaving on country which gambling has a bad image on the society, I really give importance to anonymity so that I can hide my gambling activities to the public for avoiding issues in regards to gambling negativity. I sometimes visit physical casino but I’m not comfortable anymore after I become a regular players on crypto casino which no one can notice me.

Personally I don't submitting KYC to the casino if the casino can guarantee that my credentials will be safe. The only thing that worries me was if my personal info got leaked and person that know me saw that I’m doing online gambling.

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I admit I did not go very far when came to keeping myself anonymous, if the platform has a very good reputation and story I would not mind to go through KYC, for now I have not, since I have not hit the slots in a long time and in those occasions they only required me to provide a email address. In a couple of chances I used a burner email, just not to deal with possible spam and promotional messages, that is basically it.


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October 10, 2022, 08:56:57 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me is the utmost top priority and I prefer casinos who ask KYC only when you withdraw a certain amount of money which usually is somewhat high.Even when I win big I withdraw in small chunks I have no problems whatsoever by withdrawing with 0.01 Bitcoin which is not a relevant amount nowadays equivalent in dollars.

I have withdrawn a lot of times from reputable casinos who may ask KYC only if that big amount withdraw is requested or they have some suspicions about your account,so far they have not asked me KYC or anything,they just let the withdraws through.
I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners. However, the good thing is they are not so strict when it comes to minimal amount of gains, they never require KYC anymore plus there is fast withdrawal too. That way, since I’m not spending too much in gambling, when I won, i ended up in a very smooth sailing and fast withrawal.

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October 10, 2022, 10:03:02 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


think about anonymity at a time like this and delude yourself, in all casinos casinos in their TOS there is KYC so the world has already moved towards KYC and the end of anonymity, I don't even look for anonymity in the casino anymore because I do KYC in the casino, I look for security , honesty and good service when I create a casino account. currently even exchanges are asking for KYC, the era of thinking about anonymity is over, all people who create accounts in casinos have to be prepared for kcy, I confess that it is annoying to deliver documents on an anonymous site

I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners.

all licensed casinos ask for KYC, it's not just big casinos, all casinos have to comply with the laws

I admit I did not go very far when came to keeping myself anonymous, if the platform has a very good reputation and story I would not mind to go through KYC, for now I have not, since I have not hit the slots in a long time and in those occasions they only required me to provide a email address. In a couple of chances I used a burner email, just not to deal with possible spam and promotional messages, that is basically it.



when you start playing often you will have to KYC if you make big withdrawals, as long as the person does not make big withdrawals and has no suspicious activities on the account, the person does not KYC

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

^If you care about your privacy and security then you prefer to use a casino where you play and gamble with anonymity.
A cryptocurrency is a perfect tool you can mask your identity and cover your privacy and that is the reason that most gambler transfer to crypto than using their ATM card for fiat which is probably linked to their personal information. So I think it is very important to gamble with anonymity and choose a legit casino. As long as there is an option to choose to avoid KYC casinos, for now, most of them are KYC casinos.
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

^If you care about your privacy and security then you prefer to use a casino where you play and gamble with anonymity.
A cryptocurrency is a perfect tool you can mask your identity and cover your privacy and that is the reason that most gambler transfer to crypto than using their ATM card for fiat which is probably linked to their personal information. So I think it is very important to gamble with anonymity and choose a legit casino. As long as there is an option to choose to avoid KYC casinos, for now, most of them are KYC casinos.
More users who were using fiat based casinos in the past never goes back once after using cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms for different reasons. The major one being the KYC free withdrawal for limited amount. Next thing is the fast settlement of winnings. There is nothing to get annoyed, because it is our responsibility to go through the terms and conditions and make deposits than just agreeing on everything without reading and finally raising questions.

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October 10, 2022, 10:32:57 PM
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I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners. However, the good thing is they are not so strict when it comes to minimal amount of gains, they never require KYC anymore plus there is fast withdrawal too. That way, since I’m not spending too much in gambling, when I won, i ended up in a very smooth sailing and fast withrawal.
Many leading casino regulations have implemented KYC obligations even though they are not yet strict to apply to users, many cases gamblers have to settle KYC when suspicion is found on their account activity so the casino ensures real users to prove their identity, but for accounts without suspicion there seems to be no problem with verification KYC.


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I chase anonymity so much that I refuse to win on casinos but still make sure I have a good time Cheesy Most casinos I've played with only require KYC when you win, so it suits what I do because I rarely win on the casino anyway and just stay there if I got a hang of the game. It's also hard to change casinos frequently just to chase a no-KYC policy. You just risk your identity being known in a lot of places rather than giving it on one platform and making sure that the info you gave is as little as they would allow.

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People just want to keep their information private in the different platforms because we know how security important and all those details can be used in different things on the internet, we know how does web works, that's why they want to keep themselves anonymous a possible so no records just the transactions of their games. But because of this the gambling casino getting problem how to trace their players at the same time abusing the system it is more easier to recover those accounts with the KYC.

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October 10, 2022, 11:13:07 PM
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I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners. However, the good thing is they are not so strict when it comes to minimal amount of gains, they never require KYC anymore plus there is fast withdrawal too. That way, since I’m not spending too much in gambling, when I won, i ended up in a very smooth sailing and fast withrawal.
Many leading casino regulations have implemented KYC obligations even though they are not yet strict to apply to users, many cases gamblers have to settle KYC when suspicion is found on their account activity so the casino ensures real users to prove their identity, but for accounts without suspicion there seems to be no problem with verification KYC.
There is no harm in revealing your KYC with the authentic casino but for the new online casinos one should be careful in doing that.
The professional gamblers are smart enough to know where to reveal their identity
As if you do have any choice? If you are a whale or big wagerer then expect something that would be asked from you considering that each platform is really that regulated which means that you would really be asked out

for some documents or verifications and this is pertaining about money laundering as always.There are some(but i dont know) which you could really make direct withdrawal even on how big it would be without questions asked.
People on this place and this is the main reason on why crypto gambling industry had become big because of its anonymity features.It is really been always preferred and recommended
and this is the main reason on why lots of players who had been playing on crypto space.

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October 10, 2022, 11:13:28 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Anonymity is very important that is why there is a data privacy law.  Many of gambler who chooses crypto gambling platform don't want to undergo KYC but sadly the crypto industry is slowly getting regulated and needs to perform KYC if we wanted to continue using their service.  But as the government regulates cryptocurrency, the data privacy law is also applied so I think we don't have to worry about our information being leaked except if the site is hacked.
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October 10, 2022, 11:16:26 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Anonymity for me is very essential. Gambling is legal in my country but societal norms frown on it. So many people feel that gambling is born out of greed and laziness. That is why so many gamblers choose online and crypto gambling platforms. At least one can gamble comfortably without fear of discrimination and intimidation.

I also reside in an area that is facing a high rate of criminal activities such as kidnapping, and armed robbery. KYC requirements in casinos can give out your information to the wrong people who might target you when you win big. We have had issues where bankers give out information to criminals because of the large deposit a customer has in an account. Casino company workers might also do the same thing, hence I value anonymity in no small measure.  

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October 10, 2022, 11:25:11 PM
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There is no "anonymity" in gambling.

If you playing with "Centralized Casino" there always has some "KYC" procedure, it's written in the term & condition (They, can ask you KYC anytime they want for some case). So, never believe anything about (Anonymity/Anonymous feature) on Centralized Casino.

Unless you're gambling in on-chain gambling (using smart-contract) like Dice-chain or most of the time is a lottery (Like in the PancakeSwap).

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October 11, 2022, 05:22:20 AM
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I've never really seen it as a big issue, If they don't ask then great, if they do then it'll be a bit of a bother but I'll still comply with it, especially since it isn't illegal in my country nor do I actually hide it (but I also don't actively say it, not that dumb). On the other hand, I just try to avoid providing personal information such as my habits, likes, dislikes, and/or whatever I do on social media instead so even if someone gets my identity, they wouldn't be able to find much that could be taken advantage of.

I do prefer to play on casinos that don't have KYC or have a set limit to when they do KYC instead if possible, it's a priority pick but not a prerequisite.

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October 11, 2022, 05:28:04 AM
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i am more concerned about giving my data to these websites than anonymity to be honest.

i actually had an argument one time as i went to withdraw and they asked for id and selfie with id and i told them i will put a big watermark on it.

and they were not okay with it because they couldn't sell that to anybody which was a problem for them.

which is why whenever i am looking to gamble whether it is sports or poker i choose the ones that are not completely anal about kyc.

the sane ones usually have a limit and if u stay within that limit they don't bother you with id and stuff.

i miss directbet.eu because there u didn't even had to make an account to bet as it was all blockchain based gambling.
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Most of the bitcoin books and casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. There's really no reason for us to be required to produce KYC. Costa Rica has a data processing license and most of the casinos in Curacao use sublicenses. The governing bodies of these countries do not ask for KYC. Unless someone is trying to obtain more than one account from a sports book, then KYC shouldn't be mandatory.

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If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!
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Most of the bitcoin books and casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. There's really no reason for us to be required to produce KYC. Costa Rica has a data processing license and most of the casinos in Curacao use sublicenses. The governing bodies of these countries do not ask for KYC. Unless someone is trying to obtain more than one account from a sports book, then KYC shouldn't be mandatory.
We should not deceive ourselves with no KYC casinos as long as the gambling site is becoming known to people and public, such casinos would later ask their users for KYC. I am not disputing that their are gambling sites where you will not need to do any KYC, but they can ask their users for KYC at anytime irrespective of the place the gambling site have their license. I have used some gambling sites that do not request for KYC other than email and password, but I am always preparing for KYC if I have money on the casino sites.

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October 11, 2022, 06:29:16 AM
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If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

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Most of the bitcoin books and casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. There's really no reason for us to be required to produce KYC. Costa Rica has a data processing license and most of the casinos in Curacao use sublicenses. The governing bodies of these countries do not ask for KYC. Unless someone is trying to obtain more than one account from a sports book, then KYC shouldn't be mandatory.
We should not deceive ourselves with no KYC casinos as long as the gambling site is becoming known to people and public, such casinos would later ask their users for KYC. I am not disputing that their are gambling sites where you will not need to do any KYC, but they can ask their users for KYC at anytime irrespective of the place the gambling site have their license. I have used some gambling sites that do not request for KYC other than email and password, but I am always preparing for KYC if I have money on the casino sites.

Agree with you that many of these sites do ask for KYC and I'm against it. Many times it seems that these casinos asking for KYC are looking for a way not to pay. They have no true legal obligation to ask for KYC because no governing body is ever going to check. It's much different than a license in the UK or US. In these countries they are strict about KYC.

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October 11, 2022, 06:33:16 AM
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If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

They have scammed me for $100k and no reply for 6 months and there is nothing I can do .. I think my money was used to satisfy big promotion people like drake, ufc, etc
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Last edit: October 11, 2022, 06:48:32 AM by Peeps Place
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If you want to remain anonymous NEVER PLAY AT STAKE

THEY WILL HOLD YOUR FUNDS AND SCAM YOU IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM KYC WITH PASSPORT AND 50 OTHER THINGS THEY ASK. IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN 1 OF THEM, YOU ARE GONE!

They are a Curacao book so it's not right for them to be overly intrusive.

They have scammed me for $100k and no reply for 6 months and there is nothing I can do .. I think my money was used to satisfy big promotion people like drake, ufc, etc

Sorry to hear that. You will have to go to a site such as Ask Gamblers for help. Going the legal route won't get you anywhere other than wasting money on a lawyer. No one has ever won a court case against a book in Curacao or Costa Rica. Most of the books in Curacao and Costa Rica are honest since they don't want to hurt their reputation. All my play goes through books in CR and Curacao. Unfortunately there are dishonest ones too. There are a couple of review sites that help gamblers. That's your only discourse.

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October 11, 2022, 07:08:36 AM
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Sorry to hear that. You will have to go to a site such as Ask Gamblers for help. Going the legal route won't get you anywhere other than wasting money on a lawyer. No one has ever won a court case against a book in Curacao or Costa Rica. Most of the books in Curacao and Costa Rica are honest since they don't want to hurt their reputation. All my play goes through books in CR and Curacao. Unfortunately there are dishonest ones too. There are a couple of review sites that help gamblers. That's your only discourse.

I think there's no help for him, check his trust rating... and spamming around the forum and other review sites is in vain:

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This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.

It's something very fishy here...

I don't like KYC, I don't remember the last time I had to do it... I play in several casinos for years and they never asked for KYC, but I am a fair player! In case I win some crazy high jackpot and I need to do KYC I will do it, it's not a big deal, but I will always pass it if I can.

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October 11, 2022, 08:46:13 AM
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Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

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October 11, 2022, 08:54:58 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

in the past , back in the year? yeah in crypto gambling I tend to protect my anonymity  , but over time as we entered regulations from one country to another and with the implementation of anti Money laundering? if you still wanna play in gambling sites either Crypto or fiat? then you must comply with KYC or at least if they will require you because there are no complete anonymous in our community now.
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October 11, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
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It depends on which casino you play.

Licensed casino will always have a mandatory KYC rule and this is impossible for you to avoid it. You probably can deposit and gamble, but when you want to withdraw your money, the system will flag your account and they will ask your KYC. You don't have any choice either give or give your money to them.

While unlicensed casino sometime doesn't have KYC rule and you can get benefit with this since you don't need to submit KYC in any cases.

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October 11, 2022, 12:30:22 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

For me it doesn`t matter, i`m playing for fun and don`t have big deposits. Even the KYC is not a problem for me.
And the second moment - I`m sure that anonimity in cryptocurrencies is a fake. If you have enough money to be interesting for some... organizations - they will find you anyway. Using cryptocurrencies will just slow this process.

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October 11, 2022, 12:47:33 PM
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Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

They can enjoy using a small amount of funding, but when they start using big money, the process of verification will take place. Especially if luck permits them to win huge amount of money, they will be asked for KYC before they can move the money, so far there are still casinos who will allow gamblers to use none KYC gaming, I'm speaking in regard to crypto casino gamblers can still enjoy using services and play the game that they like to play.

Though with the growing market of this industry, we might be expecting that sooner or later, even crypto casinos will implement
verification might be because of government taxes that they needed to comply.

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October 11, 2022, 04:45:09 PM
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I guess anonymity issue these days is not that big deal anymore as most of the reputable and big casinos have already made it clear before we start playing that KYC is a must particularly for those big time winners. However, the good thing is they are not so strict when it comes to minimal amount of gains, they never require KYC anymore plus there is fast withdrawal too. That way, since I’m not spending too much in gambling, when I won, i ended up in a very smooth sailing and fast withrawal.
Many leading casino regulations have implemented KYC obligations even though they are not yet strict to apply to users, many cases gamblers have to settle KYC when suspicion is found on their account activity so the casino ensures real users to prove their identity, but for accounts without suspicion there seems to be no problem with verification KYC.
There is no harm in revealing your KYC with the authentic casino but for the new online casinos one should be careful in doing that.
The professional gamblers are smart enough to know where to reveal their identity
Honestly if the amount of money won is massive and huge and mandated to do KYC why not I would do it to claim my funds, however if my winnings are small it's better to stay anonymous while gambling, there are tons of credible gambling sites and casinos that allows gambling without KYC provided that it involves small money, although the OP didn't clarify whether it's about physical presence in gambling shops or Casinos or staying anonymously to gamble in that case gambling anonymously is the best bet to avoid close relatives and friends from knowing that I am engaged with gambling.

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October 11, 2022, 06:20:50 PM
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I think there's no help for him, check his trust rating... and spamming around the forum and other review sites is in vain:
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This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.
It's something very fishy here...

I don't like KYC, I don't remember the last time I had to do it... I play in several casinos for years and they never asked for KYC, but I am a fair player! In case I win some crazy high jackpot and I need to do KYC I will do it, it's not a big deal, but I will always pass it if I can.
That's the thing about being in the middle that makes it very difficult. I am not overly fond of just spreading my KYC to everywhere, it's not something that I like doing all the time, and I won't play in a place that asks me my KYC before I even gamble, no reason to pick those places when I already can gamble without KYC in many places.

However, if push comes to shove and I am asked and I have a good chunk of money in there, then I do not mind doing it, because I would be able to get my account back again and I would be able to access my funds again, that's a good reason to do KYC, wouldn't want to, but definitely would do it with no problem because I never do anything against the rules or the law.

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October 11, 2022, 06:21:10 PM
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It depends on which casino you play.

Licensed casino will always have a mandatory KYC rule and this is impossible for you to avoid it. You probably can deposit and gamble, but when you want to withdraw your money, the system will flag your account and they will ask your KYC. You don't have any choice either give or give your money to them.

While unlicensed casino sometime doesn't have KYC rule and you can get benefit with this since you don't need to submit KYC in any cases.

I disagree with this. Stake and many of the other casinos are licensed in Curacao. As I posted above, casinos in Curacao use a sub-license. No gambling body is ever going to check this KYC so it's not necessary to KYC everyone. Those owning a sub-license are regulated by the ones holding a master license. There are four master licenses.

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October 11, 2022, 06:29:56 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


To say the fact ever since casinos have been accepting bitcoin for payments in both withdrawal and deposit makes it more encouraging for the privacy conscious gamblers to gamble with anonymity and ever since then many have been on a look for only casinos that are privacy minded without requiring to undergo through KYC demands, i see being anonymous as a mean to retain your pedigree of respect with people not to easily trace you as identify you as a gambler.



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October 11, 2022, 07:06:44 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


To be anonymous on a casino is important only if you don't trust in the site, give real data to an untrusted site it's a huge risk for your personal data.

That's the way i see it, i have no problems providing my information to sites that i trust for a KYC process because I'm not doing money laundering or something like that and i don't have anything to hide.

But if i have to choose i would prefer to stay anon.

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October 11, 2022, 07:23:33 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


To be anonymous on a casino is important only if you don't trust in the site, give real data to an untrusted site it's a huge risk for your personal data.

That's the way i see it, i have no problems providing my information to sites that i trust for a KYC process because I'm not doing money laundering or something like that and i don't have anything to hide.

But if i have to choose i would prefer to stay anon.

We discussed this in another thread a while back. It doesn't matter how trustworthy the casino is since employees are the ones that steal and sell the database with the players information. They are valuable especially from a big casino with a huge player base. To be safe, it's never a good idea to give out more information than is necessary.

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October 11, 2022, 07:37:47 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


I don't really care if I am going to play with FIAT currency. Official gambling sites are requesting documents by default here in my country (Italy).
It could be something that I care if I am going to use an international platform (it's banned from my country so I am force in this case...).
Regarding crypto, I am reluctant to go for a KYC since I think privacy is a must on this field, and most (all) of this kind  casinos are not regulated in my country...

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October 11, 2022, 08:26:49 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


It does seem slightly unusual for anyone to be using crypto casinos if they live in a country like the UK, America or parts of Europe. You'd always tend to get better odds in your country of residence, after you take conversion fees into consideration. However there are certain cases, like being paid for doing jobs in cryptocurrency or it being restricted in your country due to perhaps some dumb religious leadership. Personally being open with your identity can bring some better perks with it, provided you choose only the most secure casinos who will be storing your sensitive documents, because they tend to be stored for Know Your Customer legislation which is generally reserved for companies in better jurisdictions that can be more helpful if things go wrong.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It is important but it is not like I would make a huge deal out of it, so far I have not needed to send my information to a casino because I even if I gamble regularly the amount I gamble is always very small, so even if I were to win my withdrawal will probably not raise any kind of alarm, however if you are a big stakes player then you will have to identify yourself sooner or later regardless of the casino in which you are playing, as regulators are giving more and more attention to this industry.
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Using or accepting crypto is the best for online casino gambling. Because you do not need or have to go to the back to make deposit of the fiat currency to your bet wallet before using it but with crypto (bitcoin) which is already a digital currency make things easy for gamblers. you just transfer the funds from your bitcoin wallet to the betting or casino wallet and start the gambling from there without delay.

For the anonymity, you can only be anonymity when you are winning a little or small amount of money because at that stage the casino company might not ask you your KYC but when you win big then you can not be anonymity again, at that stage your real identity must be reveal because the casino company will ask you to upload your documents which is contrary to your username in the casino. Therefore, anonymity is not not permanent on casino sites. 









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October 11, 2022, 11:31:50 PM
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Well, these days when you're in your favorite casino, it doesn't matter.

Because for so many reasons, they'll ask their players to get verified and there's one concern that makes me think what's important. And that is on not selling our data to another party.

So, they'll be the only one to keep our verifications and identities and hopefully, they won't break to that.

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October 11, 2022, 11:38:59 PM
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I find it extremely important. Extremely to the point that if there was no casino that wouldn't allow me to play without KYC, I'd stop gambling.

Anonymity is everything because I don't want my personal data to get stolen, sold, or otherwise leaked. I don't want random people to know that I use cryptocurrencies. To me all my activities are private, which is why I use crypto, don't post my real name or address online and write on a somewhat anonymous forum Tongue

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October 11, 2022, 11:43:53 PM
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I find it extremely important. Extremely to the point that if there was no casino that wouldn't allow me to play without KYC, I'd stop gambling.

Anonymity is everything because I don't want my personal data to get stolen, sold, or otherwise leaked. I don't want random people to know that I use cryptocurrencies. To me all my activities are private, which is why I use crypto, don't post my real name or address online and write on a somewhat anonymous forum Tongue
Since we arent that addicted and we do really give out importance about anonymity then we can just simply stop on point and never gamble if ever you've been asked out for some KYC.
We are here on this market on which we do really give importance on being anonymous on the time we do play.Some people wont mind about those stuffs or doesnt give out importance
but majority of us do really matter about KYC-less platforms which there are some that do exist today.We could really have lots of choices or options.
Dont stick on something that would really be exposing your personal information, it isnt really that worth on something that connects about leisure.

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October 11, 2022, 11:45:46 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Staying anonymously is one of the reasons why people are switching to crypto casinos where they can bet and enjoy themselves on what ever game they want to play without any restrictions or having to pay through fiat where some of the identities of users can be revealed to casinos. Crypto casinos is one of the safest way we can gamble and get what we want without having to disclose our actual identities to casinos.

If you take a long at transactions whether deposit or withdrawal, users identities are not know only the IP address which can show the location where the transaction is coming from alone. Crypto casinos is having fast adoption these days compared to fiat casinos.

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Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

They can enjoy using a small amount of funding, but when they start using big money, the process of verification will take place. Especially if luck permits them to win huge amount of money, they will be asked for KYC before they can move the money, so far there are still casinos who will allow gamblers to use none KYC gaming, I'm speaking in regard to crypto casino gamblers can still enjoy using services and play the game that they like to play.

Though with the growing market of this industry, we might be expecting that sooner or later, even crypto casinos will implement
verification might be because of government taxes that they needed to comply.
Yes, indeed, some casinos allow gamblers not to do KYC but sooner or later, casinos will ask them for KYC due to government regulations. Well, we can only hope that it doesn't come too soon so that we as small gamblers, can still enjoy the fun of playing gambling without having to go through a verification process.

I imagine if it was about taxes from gambling businesses and casinos didn't have to ask members for KYC, it would let us crypto gamblers not have to worry about it and be able to continue playing without worry. We are lucky to still play gambling at casinos that do not require KYC.

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Speaking of anonymity, crypto gamblers have gotten it before because they can play at crypto casinos without having to reveal their identity. For now, many casinos have implemented KYC for their members so anonymity seems to have started to disappear. Although the casino has not implemented it for all its members, sooner or later, it will surely happen so there will be no more anonymity for its members.

But gamblers can still hide their gambling activities because they can still use crypto from their wallets and send it to the casino to gamble. This can keep them hidden from the government, which wants to track people who gamble online.

They can enjoy using a small amount of funding, but when they start using big money, the process of verification will take place. Especially if luck permits them to win huge amount of money, they will be asked for KYC before they can move the money, so far there are still casinos who will allow gamblers to use none KYC gaming, I'm speaking in regard to crypto casino gamblers can still enjoy using services and play the game that they like to play.

Though with the growing market of this industry, we might be expecting that sooner or later, even crypto casinos will implement
verification might be because of government taxes that they needed to comply.
Yes, indeed, some casinos allow gamblers not to do KYC but sooner or later, casinos will ask them for KYC due to government regulations. Well, we can only hope that it doesn't come too soon so that we as small gamblers, can still enjoy the fun of playing gambling without having to go through a verification process.

I imagine if it was about taxes from gambling businesses and casinos didn't have to ask members for KYC, it would let us crypto gamblers not have to worry about it and be able to continue playing without worry. We are lucky to still play gambling at casinos that do not require KYC.
Almost all bitcoin casinos are located in Costa Rica or Curacao. In the history of crypto casinos, when has the government in CR or Curacao ever asked a casino for KYC?  The only real reason for KYC in these jurisdictions is a means for a casino not to pay it's players.

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October 12, 2022, 03:33:28 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Anonymity, you mean it doesn't require you to do KYC?, surely gamblers will generally try to remain anonymous and crypto casinos provide it at the beginning but it is almost difficult to maintain because casinos are required to comply with the rules of the license where they are registered and one of the the rules are about AML so KYC is no longer avoidable.

@Team_MegaPari I see some of your threads shouldn't be in the gambling sections because they more proper on gambling discussion boards, so you should move them

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October 12, 2022, 03:36:34 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Anonymity, you mean it doesn't require you to do KYC?, surely gamblers will generally try to remain anonymous and crypto casinos provide it at the beginning but it is almost difficult to maintain because casinos are required to comply with the rules of the license where they are registered and one of the the rules are about AML so KYC is no longer avoidable.

@Team_MegaPari I see some of your threads shouldn't be in the gambling sections because they more proper on gambling discussion boards, so you should move them

I guess you are right, crypto and fiat based casinos are now almost the same as far as gambling goes. In the last 4 years or so, regulators are coming hard on crypto gambling as well because it is being suspected that they are being use as a way to launder their money. And with that, almost all crypto based gambling require us to send documents, thus, there's no more anonymity which we gamblers love in the first place. So it's a dilemma, and either we accept it or not.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


In my case I am not looking for it at all, because I play poker on fiat sites and being perfectly identified makes it much more difficult, although not impossible, to cheat. The poker crypto casinos without KYC make it too easy to cheat. When I have occasionally played at crypto casinos it has been without KYC. If I had been asked for KYC I would not have gambled.

I understand on the other hand people who bet with cryptocurrencies looking for anonymity, because in some cases they are in a country where gambling is prohibited, or where the offer is not varied and due to regulations and taxes the RTP is low, among other reasons.

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I am a person that wanted to live a very private life. Decentralized gambling sites that aren't into KYC fit me well. But it doesn't mean that I am not also willing to do KYC when super necessary. It's not that I like KYC but I did a lot of it here in my country since I have bank accounts and I use some apps that are also very important here. So generally I am not totally against KYC. But I prefer gambling sites that aren't forcing KYC. We have a lot of reliable gambling sites here to choose.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Not sure why people wouldn't want to verify their account. Only feels like someone who has something to hide prefers anonymity over everything. Passing KYC not only makes your gambling activity safe, it also helps the casino stop users from abusing the casino. Not only this, but it does also help stop "illegal" activities. Others that say they are concerned "about their data", they are very well aware that their data are kept safe and won't be misused (why would anyone want to risk getting sued?) but they still use that excuse as a way to avoid going through KYC.

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October 12, 2022, 04:51:05 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Not sure why people wouldn't want to verify their account. Only feels like someone who has something to hide prefers anonymity over everything. Passing KYC not only makes your gambling activity safe, it also helps the casino stop users from abusing the casino. Not only this, but it does also help stop "illegal" activities. Others that say they are concerned "about their data", they are very well aware that their data are kept safe and won't be misused (why would anyone want to risk getting sued?) but they still use that excuse as a way to avoid going through KYC.

Why do you think your data is safe? A clerk in Curacao may make $6 USD/hour, approx $12,500 for the year but he can steal a player's database from a casino and sell it for $20,000.

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October 12, 2022, 04:52:34 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Crypto itself is already semi anonymous, unless you play on a full KYC casino and they demand it from you, you are already pretty anonymous to begin with. I don't need to take any extra precautions for this because I don't play at casinos that would demand KYC from me and I don't keep my coins on a crypto exchange which makes me pretty anonymous when I gamble. I don't really care much about it though, it is something I do automatically when I deal with crypto. It is like a second nature to me.

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October 12, 2022, 05:37:32 AM
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I personally prefer casinos not asking for KYC in general. I know its some sort of security matter that also helps us, users in some problematic issues.
I think mainly people that work in sensitive places (like government officers or national defence workers/engineers) seek anonymity most. It can be dangerous for their career in long run because they work on important projects.
I don't think casinos can exactly permit VPNs btw. Probably not possible in legal basis.
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October 12, 2022, 05:50:00 AM
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I don't really care if I am going to play with FIAT currency. Official gambling sites are requesting documents by default here in my country (Italy).
It could be something that I care if I am going to use an international platform (it's banned from my country so I am force in this case...).
Regarding crypto, I am reluctant to go for a KYC since I think privacy is a must on this field, and most (all) of this kind  casinos are not regulated in my country...

The same in my case. For fiat you have to do a KYC beforehand or else you can't bet. When I have bet in crypto casinos it is because I was not required to do a KYC. In some case in the TOS it said that they were going to require KYC from a certain amount, but they didn't require it for me. In my opinion, if KYC in crypto is generalised as a previous step as it happens in fiat, cryptocurrency casinos will lose a great incentive they have now.

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i realize that KYC is very risky especially on online platforms that are vulnerable to hacking. but for me it's safe to give KYC on a reputable platform
KYC is risky to give to any site, even if given to a reputable site, that does not mean the so called reputable site will not sell it or give it out to another organization or people. The only person you can trust about KYC is yourself. If you submit it on any platform, that means there is more chances it can be known to another people. Even if that is aside, there is also the risk that any online platform can be hacked and KYC of the people using the site can be stolen, a reputable site can be hackedbas well. But I am not saying people should give out their KYC to new sites that are more likely a scammer or hackers that may use the KYC against the owners.

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October 12, 2022, 08:21:03 AM
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I don't like gambling in the open, for example a casino nearby where family friends may see me, but since online casino and gambling platforms are available worldwide its no more necessary to hide since you will do this on your PC or mobile, its now considered as a private way of gambling, KYC, on the other hand, is just for higher payment and withdrawal.
but with this behavior? you are only making your self prone from addiction because you are the only one who sees what you do In gambling , not like if there are others who can observe your activities , then advises may come for you to learn what comes good or bad, so better to choose what action to do and whom to follow.

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October 12, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me the anonymity of online game is not really important. I don't mind if people know that I am a gambler, all of my friends and my whole family knows it for years already. Also gambling is legal and quite common in my country, in my city there are tons of small slot places and sports betting cafes. Every young man here as at least gambled once in his life. If I had to choose between anonymity and safety I would always go for safety in an online casino. I mainly prefer crypto casinos because it's easy to deposit and withdraw money, and it gives me a chance to increase my crypto holdings.
but i don't think all gamblers are willing to give KYC or anonymity like you say. because some countries do not legalize gambling including in my country which should not do gambling activities but i still do it.
but there are also some gamblers who always choose anonymity and security when getting their winnings they have to do KYC as a condition to be able to withdraw all their winnings and forcefully it must be done if they want all their money to be withdrawn.
i realize that KYC is very risky especially on online platforms that are vulnerable to hacking. but for me it's safe to give KYC on a reputable platform

Your last statement credited to your action in choosing what casino site is good in terms of securities providing your KYC is something that not end with withdrawing your money, but also the trust that you established from the house owners. Once you are ready to complete the KYC without any obligation or what I mean is even you don't win a huge amount of profits to cash out but you are willing to complete the process, that is something that gamblers do have a different opinion or take.

Like what mentioned, not all gamblers are willing to provide their personal info, though there are some who are capable gamblers who are open with their gambling activities, they are not concern with anonymity, as long as they are satisfying what they want and what they like there's no problem on it.

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October 12, 2022, 11:32:33 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

From what i understand and do? i only care about my KYC when playing in new casinos or those casinos that I played but just not continuously .

But for those I trust ? i care nothing mate as i believe that there are so much to expect  with trusted casino, had been playing for years and never that i experience something that will hinder me from depositing and withdrawals.

so My answer is depending in which casino i played and from how long i will stay.

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October 12, 2022, 11:41:09 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

if you are into gambling then expect exposure , you cannot Hide permanently as I have tried to hide for years in my family but in the end? they still find out.

though In online game? there are chance that we can hide but once the casino requires you for identification then your anonymous character will change .
and admit it , this is part of gambling industry now.

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October 12, 2022, 02:09:19 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

if you are into gambling then expect exposure , you cannot Hide permanently as I have tried to hide for years in my family but in the end? they still find out.

though In online game? there are chance that we can hide but once the casino requires you for identification then your anonymous character will change .
and admit it , this is part of gambling industry now.
Maybe you make your family suspect what you do when you are alone or do nothing so they find out and maybe eventually find out that you often gamble. Maybe it's good if you tell them the truth so they can assess whether your activity in gambling is still in a stage that is acceptable to them or has entered a phase that requires their help.

I feel in the future, the government will pressure crypto casinos to implement KYC for their members so we can do nothing but look for casinos that would still allow anonymous gamblers to gamble in their casinos. This is because, at this time, we have seen several casinos implementing KYC so we inevitably have to think about it and make preparations if our favorite casino asks us to verify.

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October 12, 2022, 02:20:47 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


The issue of anonymity in gambling, including online, as it seems to me, will be more important for some players to make a profit, but this will mainly concern public personalities. For a simple user in online gambling, the fundamental thing is, first of all, reliability and security with respect to his funds, so here everyone should make a choice between anonymity and verification.
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I guess you are right, crypto and fiat based casinos are now almost the same as far as gambling goes. In the last 4 years or so, regulators are coming hard on crypto gambling as well because it is being suspected that they are being use as a way to launder their money. And with that, almost all crypto based gambling require us to send documents, thus, there's no more anonymity which we gamblers love in the first place. So it's a dilemma, and either we accept it or not.
It has become their regulation and stipulation of government licensing that implements it inevitably we have to do it for KYC/AML but for now there are still some anonymity casinos that I use to play while there is still a chance for this I will not move to other casinos so I'm just following the fun with anonymity only.
There are other things that I prefer crypto transactions and payments to fiat because maybe it's a habit and love.

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October 12, 2022, 05:49:19 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


That depends on many things such as on the overall environment and situation, mainly.

If I want to keep my funds safe, from a legal standpoint, then I would not trust a third party like an online gambling casino without a strict KYC and regulatory entity controlling their every move and looking behind their shoulder. Otherwise any casino could just claim whatever they like and take your money for whatever reason. And then you would have the trouble of convincing anyone that indeed the money belongs to you. So obviously anonymity is not worth it, in such a decentralized place.

But if you said there was a decentralized gambling casino that does not run on trust but on blockchain verification, then obviously I would want to keep my anonymity.

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October 12, 2022, 10:10:02 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


The issue of anonymity in gambling, including online, as it seems to me, will be more important for some players to make a profit, but this will mainly concern public personalities. For a simple user in online gambling, the fundamental thing is, first of all, reliability and security with respect to his funds, so here everyone should make a choice between anonymity and verification.
Someone do really take security as a serious matter thats why they do really just welcome out on whatever changes that it would be applied or simply talking about KYC.
They dont really care as long they do know that they are dealing on a platform which does have some security for whatever possible things that might happened ahead.
So this do boils down or depends on how someone do really treat up about kyc verification or something correlates to that.Anonymity is what we do love but there are
indeed some parts which would really be that not possible to happen in towards or speaking about full security.

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but with this behavior? you are only making your self prone from addiction because you are the only one who sees what you do In gambling , not like if there are others who can observe your activities , then advises may come for you to learn what comes good or bad, so better to choose what action to do and whom to follow.
Because someone do not like to gamble in an open place where people can see, that does not mean the person is an addict. I understood you, but some people can lose large amount of money in such gambling places too, but it would reduce addiction if compared to online gambling site. I for one too do not like to gamble where people will see me, I stick to my mobile phone and computer to gamble at my home in a way nobody knows that I am gambling, but people around me like friends and siblings knows that I am gambling. So it depends on who you are. If I do not see a reason for the public to know, but I just know that I shouldn't hide it from people very close to me.

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October 13, 2022, 08:32:26 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

if you are into gambling then expect exposure , you cannot Hide permanently as I have tried to hide for years in my family but in the end? they still find out.

though In online game? there are chance that we can hide but once the casino requires you for identification then your anonymous character will change .
and admit it , this is part of gambling industry now.
Maybe you make your family suspect what you do when you are alone or do nothing so they find out and maybe eventually find out that you often gamble. Maybe it's good if you tell them the truth so they can assess whether your activity in gambling is still in a stage that is acceptable to them or has entered a phase that requires their help.

I feel in the future, the government will pressure crypto casinos to implement KYC for their members so we can do nothing but look for casinos that would still allow anonymous gamblers to gamble in their casinos. This is because, at this time, we have seen several casinos implementing KYC so we inevitably have to think about it and make preparations if our favorite casino asks us to verify.
I learned my Lesson now mate and instead of hiding ? now I am open to them as they also made me realized if there are some mistakes in my decisioning not like in the past that I often become vulnerable in gambling and even losing everything I earn for a month.
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October 13, 2022, 09:02:05 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Anonymity is very important for us players, especially for high rollers but even if we want to be anonymous in casinos, compliant with their license and where the online casino is operating will not let it happen, trustworthiness and compliant are two things that make casino operate without issues so we need to accept anonymity as part of our playing in a casino, but it should be when we are winning huge or when we are breaking rules only, not when we just sign up and play with a small bankroll.

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October 13, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

if you are into gambling then expect exposure , you cannot Hide permanently as I have tried to hide for years in my family but in the end? they still find out.

though In online game? there are chance that we can hide but once the casino requires you for identification then your anonymous character will change .
and admit it , this is part of gambling industry now.
Maybe you make your family suspect what you do when you are alone or do nothing so they find out and maybe eventually find out that you often gamble. Maybe it's good if you tell them the truth so they can assess whether your activity in gambling is still in a stage that is acceptable to them or has entered a phase that requires their help.

I feel in the future, the government will pressure crypto casinos to implement KYC for their members so we can do nothing but look for casinos that would still allow anonymous gamblers to gamble in their casinos. This is because, at this time, we have seen several casinos implementing KYC so we inevitably have to think about it and make preparations if our favorite casino asks us to verify.
I learned my Lesson now mate and instead of hiding ? now I am open to them as they also made me realized if there are some mistakes in my decisioning not like in the past that I often become vulnerable in gambling and even losing everything I earn for a month.
now i can only enjoy gambling with their guidance and love.
It's great if you can learn from your lessons because not many can. Well, I hope you will continue to enjoy gambling and can give the same advice to people who may be having the same problem as you. At the very least, we can help them to solve their problems with their families and thus, they can enjoy gambling as much as you.

It's hard to admit what's wrong with us and it takes courage to reveal it to those closest to us. But you've done it and it's a good thing for you and your family.

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October 13, 2022, 03:34:21 PM
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but with this behavior? you are only making your self prone from addiction because you are the only one who sees what you do In gambling , not like if there are others who can observe your activities , then advises may come for you to learn what comes good or bad, so better to choose what action to do and whom to follow.
Because someone do not like to gamble in an open place where people can see, that does not mean the person is an addict. I understood you, but some people can lose large amount of money in such gambling places too, but it would reduce addiction if compared to online gambling site. I for one too do not like to gamble where people will see me, I stick to my mobile phone and computer to gamble at my home in a way nobody knows that I am gambling, but people around me like friends and siblings knows that I am gambling. So it depends on who you are. If I do not see a reason for the public to know, but I just know that I shouldn't hide it from people very close to me.

when a person isolates himself in order to play at the online casino, this person starts to be anti-social, this person starts to develop problems of gambling addiction because he spends more time playing, for this person the only fun is gambling, he don't care about doing other things in the real world anymore and people like that are afraid to go out and play with other people, they feel ashamed and afraid to tell people in the real world that they play, that's why they don't go out and play with others people. I hope you are not afraid and ashamed to say that you are playing games of chance, there is nothing wrong with telling people the truth that you like gambling, just don't isolate yourself to play, this is the worst way

Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important to everyone to gamble privately and I'm pretty sure we don't want our private informations to be used by someone in an illegal activity. One of the purpose of crypto gambling is to become anonymous but since KYC has become a norm in gambling websites, anonimity in gambling has long gone. It's either we comply to those rules or find a different casino that won't require it which we know that is almost non-existent these days.

In fact, in practice with and implementation of KYC people are no longer anonymous and for that reason they don't need to hide from relatives and friends in the real world that they play in online casinos, nowadays everything is going to regulation, if the person doesn't get used to being someone transparent and who doesn't live on secrets and who is not afraid of KYC and speaking the truth then the person will suffer.

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Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important to everyone to gamble privately and I'm pretty sure we don't want our private informations to be used by someone in an illegal activity. One of the purpose of crypto gambling is to become anonymous but since KYC has become a norm in gambling websites, anonimity in gambling has long gone. It's either we comply to those rules or find a different casino that won't require it which we know that is almost non-existent these days.

Some people would like to play as anonymous because they want to become lowkey to the things they are doing, not all the time having flex with their activity and name is not ideal we know the other mind set of the people once they caught their attention to the things they have there's a chance that you can find them easily and also regarding with the government such as the tax if your country has a huge tax regarding with the cryptocurrency and of course you don't want to let them get those peercetange of your hard work earning in playing.

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Being in crypto, one thing I have learnt is how important is anonymity. Since we are using crypto with gambling sites these days anonymity can be achieved if we take the right steps.
The first and foremost thing is to gamble only on no KYC gambling sites which is exactly what I do.
The next thing is to use VPN or Tor browser so that we can add an extra layer to our privacy.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

actually anonymity is desired by many gamblers too but the fact is that some gambling sites ask to complete KYC if they want to withdraw money from gambling sites and we can no longer hide to play on gambling sites now because it is difficult to do so nowadays, we all have to comply with the rules already created like the gambling sites I play on right now and only KYC on popular and big gambling sites not on new or unpopular gambling sites

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When I started in Crypto currencies... back when Bitcoin was just $300 per coin... anonymity was VERY important, because it was still illegal to own and use it. As time goes by.... governments started to define it as a commodity and gambling was one of the main uses for it. (still illegal in many countries)

Now it is 100% legal in many countries and online gambling are regulated and requires KYC verification ...effectively killing all anonymity. There are some sites that are not regulated and you can still gamble without losing your anonymity.... but they are getting fewer and fewer over time.

Is it important for me to be anonymous..... Yes, because pseudo anonymity protect your financial privacy and your Crypto wealth.  Sad

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Someone do really take security as a serious matter thats why they do really just welcome out on whatever changes that it would be applied or simply talking about KYC.
They dont really care as long they do know that they are dealing on a platform which does have some security for whatever possible things that might happened ahead.
So this do boils down or depends on how someone do really treat up about kyc verification or something correlates to that.Anonymity is what we do love but there are
indeed some parts which would really be that not possible to happen in towards or speaking about full security.
No not just someone but all of us want's to be secure because if not then we will lose our funds. Being anonymous might help to increase your security because when you're anonymous, no one can see your name and other details. This can also protect you from the annoying begs of the losers inside the casino.

I think KYC can make anonymity in gambling useless so you shouldn't deal with it if your goal is to be fully anonymous. I am a gambler which don't care at all about being anonymous and in the site that I am playing with, we can't receive rains or participate in some contest if we are anonymous, this is another reason why I don't use this feature on them.

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October 13, 2022, 09:08:03 PM
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We are talking about something similar in the Spanish local board, and we are quite reluctant to give up our data, because of so many vulnerabilities that we are seeing lately in different cryptocurrency platforms (not only online casinos).

This is our opinion in general, I think, but taking into account that a percentage of gamblers are millionaires, because of the risk that pose potential data leaks, it should be even less worth it to them.

Fortunately, there are still many KYC free alternatives in this crypto world we move.

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For me anonymity is not an important feature anymore. With so much KYC demanded everywhere you need to adapt yourself to the environment or give up a plethora of crypto services and opportunities. In fact, internet isn't anonymous anyway. Some people have a false sensation they are hidden, but governments' agencies, especially from the world's potencies like US and China must have top notch technology we can't even imagine.

In conclusion, it is a lost battle, so better that you don't commit any wrongdoings online because you never know who is watching you and how they are watching you.

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October 13, 2022, 09:42:58 PM
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Is it important for me to be anonymous..... Yes, because pseudo anonymity protect your financial privacy and your Crypto wealth.  Sad

This is one of the reasons why many people who prioritized privacy use cryptocurrency (other prefer Monero and other privacy coins).  They wanted to hide their wealth from the government.  May it be to avoid taxation or something else.

As far as I know, citizens are supposed to be transparent about their income to the government, that is where taxation plays since we need to declare everything in order for the government to get the right amount of money from us.  Being a citizen of one country, we have the responsibility and obligation to pay taxes to the government.

No not just someone but all of us want's to be secure because if not then we will lose our funds.

We can only lose our funds in a gambling platform when

1.  We lose in our gambling activity.
2.  The platform is hacked, or our account including our account security is hacked

KYC on casino is needed both for security and complying to AML that is implemented by the government.  Aside from the given factors, I do not know how KYC will make us lose our funds in a casino.  It is impossible for other people to use our submitted data to steal our found in a platform since picture and information will be different unless the perpetrator is someone inside the gambling management.

Being anonymous might help to increase your security because when you're anonymous, no one can see your name and other details. This can also protect you from the annoying begs of the losers inside the casino.

True but I think KYC doesn't function as that.  KYC is for the gambling platform to verify its user, not the user verifying other users.  Casino have an option to make your account name hidden or make it private and has nothing to do with KYC.

I think KYC can make anonymity in gambling useless so you shouldn't deal with it if your goal is to be fully anonymous. I am a gambler which don't care at all about being anonymous and in the site that I am playing with, we can't receive rains or participate in some contest if we are anonymous, this is another reason why I don't use this feature on them.

As far as I know, if the gambling platform follows the data privacy act, submitting KYC will not reveal your identity unless the platform is hacked.  They will be fined if they carelessly leak their users' data and may disrupt their operation due to negligence.  Aside from that, anyone wanting your information needs proper documentation from the authority.

Anonymity is very important and that is why data privacy law is adopted by many countries, but we, being a citizen of a country we have the responsibility to not cheat the country of our obligation of paying tax for whatever gain we have no matter how corrupt our government is.  Let us not use these privacy things to evade taxes.


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October 13, 2022, 09:59:14 PM
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For me anonymity is not an important feature anymore. With so much KYC demanded everywhere you need to adapt yourself to the environment or give up a plethora of crypto services and opportunities. In fact, internet isn't anonymous anyway. Some people have a false sensation they are hidden, but governments' agencies, especially from the world's potencies like US and China must have top notch technology we can't even imagine.

In conclusion, it is a lost battle, so better that you don't commit any wrongdoings online because you never know who is watching you and how they are watching you.
If you are getting used to into those typical or traditional transactions on real life which do ask out those information and documents then you would really make yourself numb whenever any platforms

would be asking it or simply you are really that getting used to it which you wont really be minding about anonymity or privacy anymore.I dont really see something wrong on this one

as long you arent hiding something or doesnt have any issues then there's nothing you should be hiding on but there are people who do really give out importance of their identity
which they do always think about those exposed documents might be sold out in darkmarket or whatsoever correlates on that.

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October 13, 2022, 10:13:46 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


The issue of anonymity in gambling, including online, as it seems to me, will be more important for some players to make a profit, but this will mainly concern public personalities. For a simple user in online gambling, the fundamental thing is, first of all, reliability and security with respect to his funds, so here everyone should make a choice between anonymity and verification.
Someone do really take security as a serious matter thats why they do really just welcome out on whatever changes that it would be applied or simply talking about KYC.
They dont really care as long they do know that they are dealing on a platform which does have some security for whatever possible things that might happened ahead.
So this do boils down or depends on how someone do really treat up about kyc verification or something correlates to that.Anonymity is what we do love but there are
indeed some parts which would really be that not possible to happen in towards or speaking about full security.


I am a person who has considered anonymity one of the rights that we should not allow ourselves to be taken away by anything in the world, but since I know the casinos and the entire security system and all the scams that have occurred, I think that this anonymity has already made me change as time goes by, I have seen that the trend is always to ask for KYC, when I realized that a few years ago Binance asked me for KYC to be able to give me support, it was when I realized that all the systems From that moment they were going to change to no privacy and it was like that, now things are very heavy with respect to it, but I think that little by little we will unfortunately lose our anonymity.

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October 13, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
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For me anonymity is not an important feature anymore. With so much KYC demanded everywhere you need to adapt yourself to the environment or give up a plethora of crypto services and opportunities. In fact, internet isn't anonymous anyway. Some people have a false sensation they are hidden, but governments' agencies, especially from the world's potencies like US and China must have top notch technology we can't even imagine.

In conclusion, it is a lost battle, so better that you don't commit any wrongdoings online because you never know who is watching you and how they are watching you.
If you are getting used to into those typical or traditional transactions on real life which do ask out those information and documents then you would really make yourself numb whenever any platforms

would be asking it or simply you are really that getting used to it which you wont really be minding about anonymity or privacy anymore.I dont really see something wrong on this one

as long you arent hiding something or doesnt have any issues then there's nothing you should be hiding on but there are people who do really give out importance of their identity
which they do always think about those exposed documents might be sold out in darkmarket or whatsoever correlates on that.

There are people who are not willing to provide important information just like you describe it people who are curious regarding to possibilities that the information can be sold online or can be exposed and be used for illegal transactions while for others who are discreetly participating with gambling they are also aiming for anonymity.

They are types of gamblers who secretly do this business. They don't want any traces or footprints of their gambling activities.

So from that point of view, they will not stay in one particular house but instead they will keep chasing for those who are still offering anonymity.

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I am a person who has considered anonymity one of the rights that we should not allow ourselves to be taken away by anything in the world, but since I know the casinos and the entire security system and all the scams that have occurred, I think that this anonymity has already made me change as time goes by, I have seen that the trend is always to ask for KYC, when I realized that a few years ago Binance asked me for KYC to be able to give me support, it was when I realized that all the systems From that moment they were going to change to no privacy and it was like that, now things are very heavy with respect to it, but I think that little by little we will unfortunately lose our anonymity.


There's no more anonymity to us but its makes casino being safe . KYC is very useful to prevent many scammer in online world , many business and casino's put some security and take our identity to start working. Binance is one of a biggest trading platform that why they put KYC for safetiness. Only thing that we can do is to limit the money that we used and be humble always. Careful always and goodluck.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.
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Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?
This is important for me, and I already burned myself with one bad casino that confiscated my money because of this, that is why I stopped using them.
I am ok with passing kyc when winning larger amount of money, and I understand this is needed as protection from people who are abusing casinos.
It's best to select one or two trusted casinos and stick with them if they allow more relaxed approach to betting.

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SOme people are too simple to disclose their personal information yet they are never scammed or hacked
However sometimes people who are very concerned and curious - might have experience things otherwise - this all depends on your luck

Yes it varies from person to person but this does not mean that we do not take care of the anonymity factor. Being responsible people, it is our duty not to disclose our information unnecessarily as this information can be misused in many ways. Don't just depend on luck that you will be safe at all times.

As an example, you can do KYC as most gambling sites as that is mandatory in many sites but you can choose to provide your kyc in only the trusted site. Although nothing is grantee but this will give you a piece of mind that your details are safe as the site is reputed and trusted.

Also you need to know that your KYC information is not always use in the wrong way. It can be used for marketing purposes by different companies to give you targeted ads based upon your location and/ or age etc. There are many things which can be done by your KYC data.

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The poker casinos (FiaT) allowed some pages to take the gambling habits in the main casinos, if you checked/found a nickname you could even see what games this guy was good at and also see his earnings, so in this case statistics were more important than knowing the player beyond a nickname.

A game privacy right was violated, even through that nick you were anonymous, but your game was not. So this detail that has nothing to do directly with my personal data is important to me.

As for traditional games or in general any crypto casino, you have to understand or better say READ, the conditions of each casino (ToC), to understand when we can be exposed to delivering personal information.

That in theory some crypto casinos still offer total anonymity, but the reality is that the trend is that there is a 99% permissibility to KYC in any casino that in its ToC says (no but), if you do not exceed a certain withdrawal amount or which on certain occasions is at discretion. So I understand that my anonymity is equivalent to 1% of those conditions in those casinos.


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When you using cryptos, then it’s your birthright to remain anonymous.
Cryptos are meant to remain anonymous, so yes it’s obviously a feature.
Moreover I just hate the casinos which asks for KYC, as it leads to data exploitation sometimes.
It’s just my personal preference, I don’t like casinos asking for KYC, so this suggestion of mine might vary from other people.
Not all cryptos are for privacy purposes! actually most of casinos accepted a centralized coins and has no privacy feature since it's easy to track the coins belong to. Almost casinos in this forum have a mandatory KYC rule, I doubt you're only gamble on no KYC casino e.g. Freebitco.in and Anonibet.

What can I say is most of gamblers are don't care with their privacy, there's many cases the gamblers has no choice except submit their KYC in order to continue to withdraw their money.

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When you using cryptos, then it’s your birthright to remain anonymous.
Cryptos are meant to remain anonymous, so yes it’s obviously a feature.
Moreover I just hate the casinos which asks for KYC, as it leads to data exploitation sometimes.
It’s just my personal preference, I don’t like casinos asking for KYC, so this suggestion of mine might vary from other people.
Not all cryptos are for privacy purposes! actually most of casinos accepted a centralized coins and has no privacy feature since it's easy to track the coins belong to. Almost casinos in this forum have a mandatory KYC rule, I doubt you're only gamble on no KYC casino e.g. Freebitco.in and Anonibet.

What can I say is most of gamblers are don't care with their privacy, there's many cases the gamblers has no choice except submit their KYC in order to continue to withdraw their money.
however, KYC is indeed used in most of today's popular crypto casinos. some fiat casinos I used to play did not require KYC, only when there was a deposit and withdrawal problem, then KYC would be required.
 
KYC will not allow players to remain anonymous. but all this will help the system run. Casinos have their way of doing business. KYC is one way to deal with the casino problems of the past.
you are right, there is no problem for gamblers handing over their data. simple reason, it's all just for the game.

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October 14, 2022, 12:14:56 PM
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When I started in Crypto currencies... back when Bitcoin was just $300 per coin... anonymity was VERY important, because it was still illegal to own and use it. As time goes by.... governments started to define it as a commodity and gambling was one of the main uses for it. (still illegal in many countries)

Now it is 100% legal in many countries and online gambling are regulated and requires KYC verification ...effectively killing all anonymity. There are some sites that are not regulated and you can still gamble without losing your anonymity.... but they are getting fewer and fewer over time.

Is it important for me to be anonymous..... Yes, because pseudo anonymity protect your financial privacy and your Crypto wealth.  Sad

It is really important to hide our identities on the internet, and it's a matter of privacy that's why a lot of privacy coins just pop up on the cryptocurrency market but since a lot of exchanges need a KYC it contradicts the purpose of it.

And I think the best gambling sites have the best security and do not require KYC.
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October 14, 2022, 12:17:10 PM
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I am a person who has considered anonymity one of the rights that we should not allow ourselves to be taken away by anything in the world, but since I know the casinos and the entire security system and all the scams that have occurred, I think that this anonymity has already made me change as time goes by, I have seen that the trend is always to ask for KYC, when I realized that a few years ago Binance asked me for KYC to be able to give me support, it was when I realized that all the systems From that moment they were going to change to no privacy and it was like that, now things are very heavy with respect to it, but I think that little by little we will unfortunately lose our anonymity.


There's no more anonymity to us but its makes casino being safe . KYC is very useful to prevent many scammer in online world , many business and casino's put some security and take our identity to start working. Binance is one of a biggest trading platform that why they put KYC for safetiness. Only thing that we can do is to limit the money that we used and be humble always. Careful always and goodluck.
Maybe verification is something we have to accept now because exchange sites have already requested KYC verification by submitting documents and gambling sites are now doing the same.
Maybe later, we won't be able to be anonymous again in the future because of regulations from the government that want to know people who use crypto.
KYC is something that crypto gamblers always try to avoid because we gamble using crypto and we can send that crypto from different wallets to our gambling account.
But the casinos are trying to know who we really are so they implement KYC.
And, indeed, we can only limit the use of money for gambling and don't tell others that we have cryptocurrencies of various kinds.

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I think almost all gambling sites that use crypto have implemented kyc for users, so anonymity is no longer important if we want to play online gambling. the most important thing now is the convenience when withdrawing and depositing is very easy to do without having to wait long.
This type of topic is in great demand in the forum, it is of the utmost importance, I know that the players are looking for a way to enjoy themselves without the need for them to be followed up, it is very easy for a government or police entity that is requesting a type of permission to review the actions of a potential client of the casino and the casino provides them, whether publicly or privately, that the information does not come out, it is something that I will not agree to, I am a player who does not have much experience, I try to look for casinos that are very famous to play and if I win, I know that to withdraw I have to pass the KYC, but it is preferable to do it with reliable casinos.

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October 14, 2022, 01:32:13 PM
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I think almost all gambling sites that use crypto have implemented kyc for users, so anonymity is no longer important if we want to play online gambling. the most important thing now is the convenience when withdrawing and depositing is very easy to do without having to wait long.
There are still some that are considerate with their players but it's only for those that gamble with a very few amount. They don't mind to ask those players because they're not big time gamblers so they allow them to gamble freely without even asked for their identities.
However, it's true that most of them these days are asking for kyc and they're mandated to do that even if they don't want to by the regulators where they're registered.

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October 14, 2022, 01:40:03 PM
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Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.
This can be troublesome in the long run if you've provided your identity to various platforms. Based on my understanding of what you've said, it looks like you've provided your identification to different platforms, and it is not limited to gambling casinos.
You might not encounter any issues now, but the information you've provided to those platforms may come to you soon as you can't ensure how they'll your information once things go under.

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October 14, 2022, 02:03:06 PM
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Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.
This can be troublesome in the long run if you've provided your identity to various platforms. Based on my understanding of what you've said, it looks like you've provided your identification to different platforms, and it is not limited to gambling casinos.
You might not encounter any issues now, but the information you've provided to those platforms may come to you soon as you can't ensure how they'll your information once things go under.
however, the current situation will force us to use our data for KYC on some platforms.
not only Casino, if you register a centralized exchange. of course, they will ask KYC to validate your account.
anonymous at this time I think not too much attention anymore. especially those who do work or use multiple platforms for their daily life.
For those who work in marketing, of course, data from customers is very necessary. Casinos need this, not just to prevent people from taking advantage of casino events. In business, customer data is very important. it is to measure their market success.


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October 14, 2022, 04:42:14 PM
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Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.
This can be troublesome in the long run if you've provided your identity to various platforms. Based on my understanding of what you've said, it looks like you've provided your identification to different platforms, and it is not limited to gambling casinos.
You might not encounter any issues now, but the information you've provided to those platforms may come to you soon as you can't ensure how they'll your information once things go under.
however, the current situation will force us to use our data for KYC on some platforms.
not only Casino, if you register a centralized exchange. of course, they will ask KYC to validate your account.
anonymous at this time I think not too much attention anymore. especially those who do work or use multiple platforms for their daily life.
For those who work in marketing, of course, data from customers is very necessary. Casinos need this, not just to prevent people from taking advantage of casino events. In business, customer data is very important. it is to measure their market success.
That's the thing, there are certain platform whether it's gambling or exchange platform where we are required submit our documents however, we should pick which platform we will be sending our documents and submit with the KYC process. For example, we used Stake as our daily gambling platform then there should be no problem complying with the KYC process however if you will just try on some platform then I don't think that submitting our documents to limit those who has our identification.

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October 14, 2022, 06:44:16 PM
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Not  much in my case, as I have little to hide, however I do respect people who play larger sums and have "that type of money" and look for a degree of privacy. I guess that it has always existed in the "real" world and on-line gambling has just made it easier. Anonymity in general is a nice to have, but it may not be the key to choose a platform for most of the people.

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October 14, 2022, 07:27:23 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Gone are the days when gamblers were despised and perceived as  lesser humans, today, gambling have become one of the noble ways one can earn money while having fun.
I personally have absolutely nothing to hide as a gambler, if I hide my gambling activities from my wife or anybody else, it is because I don't want them to know how much I spend on gambling, but as a gambler, anonimity isn't a concern or problem to me, anybody can know I am a gambler, but what I keep away from public knowledge is how much I spend on gambling, except when I win big.

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October 14, 2022, 08:21:37 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me is the utmost top priority and I prefer casinos who ask KYC only when you withdraw a certain amount of money which usually is somewhat high.Even when I win big I withdraw in small chunks I have no problems whatsoever by withdrawing with 0.01 Bitcoin which is not a relevant amount nowadays equivalent in dollars.

I have withdrawn a lot of times from reputable casinos who may ask KYC only if that big amount withdraw is requested or they have some suspicions about your account,so far they have not asked me KYC or anything,they just let the withdraws through.
It’s hard these days to find gambling casinos that don’t require to verify your identification, especially if you are a high roller. However, I don’t gamble at a very significant amount, maybe the reason why I still given the chances to be anonymous every time I gamble. But if you want more security of your funds and you want to avoid payout delays, maybe let’s learn to accept that KYC will be here for good. And as gambling casinos become more centralized, expect that casinos will be more regulated, thus KYC will also be strictly implemented each time you deposit and create withdrawals.

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October 14, 2022, 08:56:44 PM
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I think almost all gambling sites that use crypto have implemented kyc for users, so anonymity is no longer important if we want to play online gambling. the most important thing now is the convenience when withdrawing and depositing is very easy to do without having to wait long.
What happens is that this is already like a trend, each time the laws regarding this type of thing are very strict, sometimes and mostly KYC is requested so that the casino can continue operating without any problems with the casino. law, they prefer to cover their backs well first, customers know that at any moment it will come again due to their good reputation and trust, so I partly blame the casinos, I know that there is a lot of danger in terms of the information that it can be filtered to hands that are not so good, but that is a risk that must be assumed by anyone who wants to play in a crypt casino, I know and understand that I should be totally anonymous by the fact of using Crypto, but things no longer they are like that
Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.
This can be troublesome in the long run if you've provided your identity to various platforms. Based on my understanding of what you've said, it looks like you've provided your identification to different platforms, and it is not limited to gambling casinos.
You might not encounter any issues now, but the information you've provided to those platforms may come to you soon as you can't ensure how they'll your information once things go under.
however, the current situation will force us to use our data for KYC on some platforms.
not only Casino, if you register a centralized exchange. of course, they will ask KYC to validate your account.
anonymous at this time I think not too much attention anymore. especially those who do work or use multiple platforms for their daily life.
For those who work in marketing, of course, data from customers is very necessary. Casinos need this, not just to prevent people from taking advantage of casino events. In business, customer data is very important. it is to measure their market success.
That's the thing, there are certain platform whether it's gambling or exchange platform where we are required submit our documents however, we should pick which platform we will be sending our documents and submit with the KYC process. For example, we used Stake as our daily gambling platform then there should be no problem complying with the KYC process however if you will just try on some platform then I don't think that submitting our documents to limit those who has our identification.

The important thing about all this is, as has already been commented on in other threads, if there is a favorite platform under which we always use, there is no apparent problem in leaving our KYC, it is something that does not have any problem, like stake.com, SB, among others, because we know very well that our data will be very well guarded and there will be no problems when there is a hack, because for these platforms the main thing is security and that their clients and players are always happy, then in the security they have is very great, and this is what gives peace of mind to all the people who always frequent the casino.

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Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Gone are the days when gamblers were despised and perceived as  lesser humans, today, gambling have become one of the noble ways one can earn money while having fun.
I personally have absolutely nothing to hide as a gambler, if I hide my gambling activities from my wife or anybody else, it is because I don't want them to know how much I spend on gambling, but as a gambler, anonimity isn't a concern or problem to me, anybody can know I am a gambler, but what I keep away from public knowledge is how much I spend on gambling, except when I win big.

Well, I don't know, but previously people who played in casinos were considered lazy, and as people who weren't worth talking about, I only remember when I heard many talk about players, who saw them as vicious, in In these times, if a person is a casino player or something like that, he is almost considered one of the most noble people of all, because that means that he has enough money to put him in a casino, this means that they have so much money that he doesn't know what to spend it on, something like that is how at least most of the people who live around me see it, and if you're single, wow they can grab you quickly!

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October 14, 2022, 09:12:27 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


For me is the utmost top priority and I prefer casinos who ask KYC only when you withdraw a certain amount of money which usually is somewhat high.Even when I win big I withdraw in small chunks I have no problems whatsoever by withdrawing with 0.01 Bitcoin which is not a relevant amount nowadays equivalent in dollars.

I have withdrawn a lot of times from reputable casinos who may ask KYC only if that big amount withdraw is requested or they have some suspicions about your account,so far they have not asked me KYC or anything,they just let the withdraws through.
It’s hard these days to find gambling casinos that don’t require to verify your identification, especially if you are a high roller. However, I don’t gamble at a very significant amount, maybe the reason why I still given the chances to be anonymous every time I gamble. But if you want more security of your funds and you want to avoid payout delays, maybe let’s learn to accept that KYC will be here for good. And as gambling casinos become more centralized, expect that casinos will be more regulated, thus KYC will also be strictly implemented each time you deposit and create withdrawals.
I am the same as you, since I am not gambling a huge amount of money I have never needed to verify myself at any casino, however it would be incredibly shortsighted if I did not saw there were many people that had to identify themselves as they were high rollers and casinos had to satisfy the need of the governments to know where those funds come from, so casinos are trapped too as they do not want to lose their license but they also do not want to lose their clients over something like this.
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Not  much in my case, as I have little to hide, however I do respect people who play larger sums and have "that type of money" and look for a degree of privacy. I guess that it has always existed in the "real" world and on-line gambling has just made it easier. Anonymity in general is a nice to have, but it may not be the key to choose a platform for most of the people.

I don't feel like protecting your personal life in the Internet is "hiding". There are things I'd be willing to show, like my face, or my ID, but not as a detailed scan, rather a video conference or with all the details besides my name hidden. What I wouldn't show is my address. I don't want to share such things with someone that I don't know and don't trust, even people who I send my money to.

It's the same relation that you have with someone in a store or a restaurant. You pay them and if needed can flash your ID, but you don't tell them where you live and don't hand them your ID so they can make a copy.

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October 14, 2022, 09:49:05 PM
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Not  much in my case, as I have little to hide, however I do respect people who play larger sums and have "that type of money" and look for a degree of privacy. I guess that it has always existed in the "real" world and on-line gambling has just made it easier. Anonymity in general is a nice to have, but it may not be the key to choose a platform for most of the people.
I believe bigger players already submitted their KYC to the platform so they can be more safe but of course they will not tell it to the public because of that security issue. Same with me, I don’t have much to hide but because of belief of the society that gambling is bad, I also decided to stay anonymous since I know KYC are secured with the site but to the people around you, for sure they will spread it once they know that you are into gambling.

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October 14, 2022, 10:32:01 PM
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I am always concerned about Anonymity in any casino I visit, although there might be warning stating "don't worry, your private information will not be shared with any third party". I prefer full anonymity when gambling.
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October 14, 2022, 10:43:50 PM
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Not  much in my case, as I have little to hide, however I do respect people who play larger sums and have "that type of money" and look for a degree of privacy. I guess that it has always existed in the "real" world and on-line gambling has just made it easier. Anonymity in general is a nice to have, but it may not be the key to choose a platform for most of the people.
I believe bigger players already submitted their KYC to the platform so they can be more safe but of course they will not tell it to the public because of that security issue. Same with me, I don’t have much to hide but because of belief of the society that gambling is bad, I also decided to stay anonymous since I know KYC are secured with the site but to the people around you, for sure they will spread it once they know that you are into gambling.
Having lots of money is something a person doesnt really get easily scared on something of something as long they arent involving on illegal things then they wouldnt really care if they would submit

those identification or personal details.Yes, we do really value our anonymity but there are instances which it cant really be avoided since majority of platforms today are regulated or licensed

which means that on whatever terms and regulations been applied t hen it would be simply be passed up into its users and they would really be strictly following it.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.

In my case, it is too late for me to worry.  I am from the Philippines and the voter database had been leaked already[1], so possibly all the voters' information in my country had been sold to different entities.  So it doesn't matter anymore if the site I am registered with will have a data leak, but of course it is always good for the gambling platform to ensure the safety of its clients/customers' data.

I don't feel like protecting your personal life in the Internet is "hiding". There are things I'd be willing to show, like my face, or my ID, but not as a detailed scan, rather a video conference or with all the details besides my name hidden. What I wouldn't show is my address. I don't want to share such things with someone that I don't know and don't trust, even people who I send my money to.

It's the same relation that you have with someone in a store or a restaurant. You pay them and if needed can flash your ID, but you don't tell them where you live and don't hand them your ID so they can make a copy.


Legal Casinos will protect the data that you are protecting.  KYC is implemented to follow government regulations, so somehow we know this kind of data gathering by a legit company is protected by the data privacy law.  

Legal Casino will never reveal its player information to anyone unless asked by the court.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Elections_data_breach

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Not that important since I already filled out many KYC forms and fortunately I'm still safe from any hack or scam.
I'm enjoying playing with the best gambling site though it requires a level 1 KYC but that's ok, as long as my money is safe which is my top concern. KYC might be one of the requirements later on, we can't skip that strong regulations as the government agencies tries to regulate casinos strictly.

In my case, it is too late for me to worry.  I am from the Philippines and the voter database had been leaked already[1], so possibly all the voters' information in my country had been sold to different entities.  So it doesn't matter anymore if the site I am registered with will have a data leak, but of course it is always good for the gambling platform to ensure the safety of its clients/customers' data.

I don't feel like protecting your personal life in the Internet is "hiding". There are things I'd be willing to show, like my face, or my ID, but not as a detailed scan, rather a video conference or with all the details besides my name hidden. What I wouldn't show is my address. I don't want to share such things with someone that I don't know and don't trust, even people who I send my money to.

It's the same relation that you have with someone in a store or a restaurant. You pay them and if needed can flash your ID, but you don't tell them where you live and don't hand them your ID so they can make a copy.


Legal Casinos will protect the data that you are protecting.  KYC is implemented to follow government regulations, so somehow we know this kind of data gathering by a legit company is protected by the data privacy law.  

Legal Casino will never reveal its player information to anyone unless asked by the court.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Elections_data_breach
Also posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.140

Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying. In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.

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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they don't have a license.

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October 15, 2022, 03:30:12 AM
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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.
In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must  choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than  just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.









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October 15, 2022, 12:50:31 PM
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I am always concerned about Anonymity in any casino I visit, although there might be warning stating "don't worry, your private information will not be shared with any third party". I prefer full anonymity when gambling.
well maybe that would be better. but what happens when you gamble on a gambling platform and you win a big win and when you want to withdraw all that money you have to do KYC, are you still anonymity? or do you choose to spend more of your winnings instead of having to do KYC for the anonymity that you already uphold?
but if it happened to me, i would take that risk because life is full of high risks even if we sleep there will also be risks.
maybe anonymity is very good and i also want it to not show my real face, but if one day it is needed i will do it. because nothing will restrict me from gambling even if it's anonymity.
it is our obligation to provide KYC as almost 90% of crypto gambling sites now are asking for KYC either from the account creation or from depositing? but mostly upon withdrawal specially with big amount.
so lets bare with it and must learn accepting it.

KYC is needed no matter what we do or even how we hate it.

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I am always concerned about Anonymity in any casino I visit, although there might be warning stating "don't worry, your private information will not be shared with any third party". I prefer full anonymity when gambling.
well maybe that would be better. but what happens when you gamble on a gambling platform and you win a big win and when you want to withdraw all that money you have to do KYC, are you still anonymity? or do you choose to spend more of your winnings instead of having to do KYC for the anonymity that you already uphold?
but if it happened to me, i would take that risk because life is full of high risks even if we sleep there will also be risks.
maybe anonymity is very good and i also want it to not show my real face, but if one day it is needed i will do it. because nothing will restrict me from gambling even if it's anonymity.
it is our obligation to provide KYC as almost 90% of crypto gambling sites now are asking for KYC either from the account creation or from depositing? but mostly upon withdrawal specially with big amount.
so lets bare with it and must learn accepting it.

KYC is needed no matter what we do or even how we hate it.

One of the most expensive and important that we have is the details or the information related to us because most of the accounts emails are connected to personal use so that's why it is too hard to provide your personal information just for the sake of your gambling satisfaction some of the gambling casino allowing having a level 1 verficationjust the email or the name of the player but if they commit a withdrawal with a large amount or issues with their account thats the time they seek some assistant for the KYC.

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We know that playing online on crypto casinos offers anonymity, but recently these platforms are choosing to be more regulated, because of that, the possibility of being asked for a KYC is much higher compared to the recent years.
Personally, I would choose being anonymous if I think I cannot trust the casino and/or the amount of fund that I can't withdraw is not worth of the KYC documents.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


In general, cryptocurrencies are anonymous in its transactions. The fact that you can send your coins under the blockchain may utilize its anonymity factor when using your cryptocurrencies. But in gambling, most online gambling websites have required KYC in order for the protection of both the gambling website and their users.

Generally, anonymity is essential in doing transactions but you have to surrender this privilege when you gamble. Online gambling websites have to follow on their respective local laws and this requires KYC in order to operate.

Personally, I do not mind anonymity in gambling since I only gamble a handful amount of resources. Maybe anonymity would matter if I were to use large sums of capital whenever I gamble.

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October 16, 2022, 03:42:35 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

Maybe anonymity would matter if I were to use large sums of capital whenever I gamble.
LOL, and this is where you got it all wrong, casinos will likely not bother you about passing kyc verification if you only gamble minimal amount of money and never have to withdraw a huge sum from the casino.
Gambling with huge sums of money is where KYCing is very mandatory, this is because the casino will try to protect themselves from money Launders, so just have it at the back of your mind that you might not be required to pass kyc now that you gamble with small amount, but be ready to pass kyc verification as soon as your gambling portfolio increases.

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We know that playing online on crypto casinos offers anonymity, but recently these platforms are choosing to be more regulated, because of that, the possibility of being asked for a KYC is much higher compared to the recent years.
Personally, I would choose being anonymous if I think I cannot trust the casino and/or the amount of fund that I can't withdraw is not worth of the KYC documents.
Actually, most casinos also prefers not to ask their gamblers with any KYC documents however they have no choice but to comply as their business will be compromise if they do follow with the regulations set by the government.

Still, some casinos are trying to tie their withdrawal option with KYC requirements which caused some of the gamblers having their funds locked from on the account. It's best to only provide your information to few casino that you trust to avoid future issue involving your identity.

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Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's somewhat important for me to the point that i'd prefer to play on casinos that don't require much during registration and sometimes it depends on the amount of money involved as I don't mind letting go a small amount if a casino decides to change their terms and conditions. If I suddenly win a big amount then i'll probably comply with their requirements but it's very rare for me to win a lot where they'll need KYC so that's the least of my concerns.

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We know that playing online on crypto casinos offers anonymity, but recently these platforms are choosing to be more regulated, because of that, the possibility of being asked for a KYC is much higher compared to the recent years.
Personally, I would choose being anonymous if I think I cannot trust the casino and/or the amount of fund that I can't withdraw is not worth of the KYC documents.
Actually, most casinos also prefers not to ask their gamblers with any KYC documents however they have no choice but to comply as their business will be compromise if they do follow with the regulations set by the government.

Still, some casinos are trying to tie their withdrawal option with KYC requirements which caused some of the gamblers having their funds locked from on the account. It's best to only provide your information to few casino that you trust to avoid future issue involving your identity.

That is why many casinos now made KYC as mandatory for playing in their casinos so there won't be lot of issues when comes up while withdrawal in case of our winning rewards. As mentioned due to AML policies the casinos are forced to implement mandatory KYC so the complete anonymity is not really there anymore.

But here is the reputation of a casino will help us to choose the right and the documents we submit will stay safe in their hands but its really important to read ToS instead of simply ticking the check box while registering on any new platform will resolve lot of confusions in the future.









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October 16, 2022, 06:37:31 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


I don't think I do even think about anonymity when I'm gambling, however, I've picked crypto casinos just by the simple aspect of being able to instantly recharge or withdraw my funds from the account at any given time. Besides, we do not need to rely on any 3rd party operator to go through with this operation. That's the beauty of cryptos, there's no middlemen and you are truthfully in charge of your funds and not dependant on not just some bank or financial institution.
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We know that playing online on crypto casinos offers anonymity, but recently these platforms are choosing to be more regulated, because of that, the possibility of being asked for a KYC is much higher compared to the recent years.
Personally, I would choose being anonymous if I think I cannot trust the casino and/or the amount of fund that I can't withdraw is not worth of the KYC documents.
Actually, most casinos also prefers not to ask their gamblers with any KYC documents however they have no choice but to comply as their business will be compromise if they do follow with the regulations set by the government.

Still, some casinos are trying to tie their withdrawal option with KYC requirements which caused some of the gamblers having their funds locked from on the account. It's best to only provide your information to few casino that you trust to avoid future issue involving your identity.

That is why many casinos now made KYC as mandatory for playing in their casinos so there won't be lot of issues when comes up while withdrawal in case of our winning rewards. As mentioned due to AML policies the casinos are forced to implement mandatory KYC so the complete anonymity is not really there anymore.

But here is the reputation of a casino will help us to choose the right and the documents we submit will stay safe in their hands but its really important to read ToS instead of simply ticking the check box while registering on any new platform will resolve lot of confusions in the future.

This is why as jemz mentioned above, as much as possible limit the casinos where you submit your KYC details.
In my opinion, select only the casinos and sportsbooks that you think you can play long term with them.
As we can't avoid submitting kyc these days because most of them are now getting their gambling license,
it is on our part how we choose a site that will be good for long term and know that they have relatively good reputation.
Much better if they have no existing complaints of any kind and has active support that you can find also in this forum.
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October 16, 2022, 08:02:54 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


I don't think I do even think about anonymity when I'm gambling, however, I've picked crypto casinos just by the simple aspect of being able to instantly recharge or withdraw my funds from the account at any given time. Besides, we do not need to rely on any 3rd party operator to go through with this operation.

Crypto Casinos somehow rely on a third party for their operation.  So definitely it is between us and crypto casinos as a middle men on the third-party services offered by the casino like slots provider, and others.  Anyway, it is also a best thing to be able to deposit and withdraw funds instantly.

That's the beauty of cryptos, there's no middlemen and you are truthfully in charge of your funds and not dependant on not just some bank or financial institution.

But the thing is a gambling platform that integrates cryptocurrency are now asking for KYC.  These gambling platform are centralized company that needs to comply with government regulation.  Once the transaction involved a centralized platform, this mentioned beauty of cryptocurrency is negated.

Actually, most casinos also prefers not to ask their gamblers with any KYC documents however they have no choice but to comply as their business will be compromise if they do follow with the regulations set by the government.

True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.

Still, some casinos are trying to tie their withdrawal option with KYC requirements which caused some of the gamblers having their funds locked from on the account. It's best to only provide your information to few casino that you trust to avoid future issue involving your identity.

I agree, we should only perform KYC to a casino that we trust to save us from worries of having our identity leaked.

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October 16, 2022, 08:24:51 PM
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True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.
Casinos must employ a special team for KYC check services but not hire third party services such as websites for data gatekeeper services because there is no guarantee that data checked by third services can be secretly copied and used for other purposes, so casinos must transparently state that they have a special team for KYC data checker of each account user.

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October 17, 2022, 09:35:00 PM
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I am always concerned about Anonymity in any casino I visit, although there might be warning stating "don't worry, your private information will not be shared with any third party". I prefer full anonymity when gambling.
well maybe that would be better. but what happens when you gamble on a gambling platform and you win a big win and when you want to withdraw all that money you have to do KYC, are you still anonymity? or do you choose to spend more of your winnings instead of having to do KYC for the anonymity that you already uphold?
but if it happened to me, i would take that risk because life is full of high risks even if we sleep there will also be risks.
maybe anonymity is very good and i also want it to not show my real face, but if one day it is needed i will do it. because nothing will restrict me from gambling even if it's anonymity.
it is our obligation to provide KYC as almost 90% of crypto gambling sites now are asking for KYC either from the account creation or from depositing? but mostly upon withdrawal specially with big amount.
so lets bare with it and must learn accepting it.

KYC is needed no matter what we do or even how we hate it.
While now it is very difficult to avoid having to identify yourself at most casinos I still think an effort needs to be made to remain as anonymous as possible, as we know very well that centralized services get hacked all the time and there can be a huge leak of information and then our data will be available to anyone that is willing to pay for it on the black markets, and this is a risk that is not small as even big companies have been hacked in the past.
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October 17, 2022, 10:04:53 PM
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True, implementing KYC makes the casino to spend more, the money used for hiring KYC verification service should have been a profit for the casino but instead they have to spend them to comply with the government regulation.
Casinos must employ a special team for KYC check services but not hire third party services such as websites for data gatekeeper services because there is no guarantee that data checked by third services can be secretly copied and used for other purposes, so casinos must transparently state that they have a special team for KYC data checker of each account user.
The cost might be the concern of every casinos and since this is not their forte, they tend to hire a third party for KYC concern and that’s ok as long as they get the reputable company to handle this. My only concern is my money, as long as I have the access to my account and my Money, i think I can still afford to fill out some KYC but when it comes to other documents, I’m afraid I can’t provide any.
There are various reason as to why gambling platform prefer to us third party KYC services other than doing it on their own.  One main reason would be security, since they'll be hiring a third-party service that specifically focuses on Data Acquisition of Personal Documents, users will be assured that their data's will be kept securely. Also, as a gambling platform, they just can't assign a "special team" but rather it will take a whole department for the casino itself to do the KYC process on their own. Just as you've mentioned, it will not be beneficial and cost-wise to the casino as well as the users.

Anyways, as for you providing KYC documents, I hope that you're only willing proceed with it to same platform rather than doing it on multiple platforms as it could be dangerous in the long run if you provide personal documents to multiple platforms.

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October 17, 2022, 10:16:33 PM
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As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity.  The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity.  I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.
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October 17, 2022, 10:21:58 PM
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As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity.  The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity.  I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.
But we know that even legit or known platforms would turn out to be scam possibly thats why we cant really 100% be sure but we dont really have any choice but to stick into those known and popular which we
could really presume out that they are really that safe to deal with.Anonymity is indeed a serious thing for most people but since there are ones who do really play that much money which it would really be
normal that they would be asking out for some verification or kyc but for those small time gamblers then it wont really be that much an issue or something yet we do have lots
of places now that doesnt ask out any verification for you to completely play.

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October 17, 2022, 11:40:18 PM
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As long as the gambling platform is reputable, I don't have any worry about my anonymity.  The gambling also have a function to hide a players username adding more security to the players account and activity.  I wouldn't mind doing KYC in this kind of platform since I am sure that reputable casinos will always protect their players privacy.
This is the reason why I always choose the best site, you can have peace of mind with them and you can focus more on the enjoyment of the game, filling out KYC is also ok with me. I’ve done this already on many site, especially with the gambling site though I got some messages from unknown user but that’s alright as long as I ignore them, I know I’m safe. Scammers and hackers will always be there even if you didn’t fill out any KYC, learn to secure your wallet at all times.

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October 18, 2022, 12:47:03 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

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October 18, 2022, 03:48:33 AM
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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.
In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must  choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than  just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.
Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.
If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.









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October 18, 2022, 04:33:50 PM
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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.
In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must  choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than  just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.
Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.
If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.

You are absolutely right, in each casino that I have entered they ask for KYC in some way, those that have not asked me for KYC is because I have not completed the necessary quota to make a withdrawal, but when I go to the comments in the thread I confirm that if the require, for my part I don't care much about anonymity anymore, I know that it is something very difficult to achieve, there are many controls that have been made so that people take away that right and more and more efforts are being made to achieve zero anonymity and zero privacy, we as a player can not do much, claims can be made, but in the end we know that you can not fight against the big ones.

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October 18, 2022, 05:04:50 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.
It's true that due to compliance you should pick those casinos that you trust, entrusting personal information online is really hard nowadays that's the reason there are crypto gamblers who continue to seek playing with anonymity but from time to time changes from casino policies who cater crypto is now also requiring users to submit their KYC.

Especially if you are withdrawing a decent amount, the house is asking for information that pointing you to submit personal verifications.

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October 18, 2022, 10:52:21 PM
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1xbit had a license in Curacao. This shows that a license doesn't mean a thing. Now that the parent company claimed bankruptcy, they have a license.
In our time now as the Licensing of gambling sites are just a Money making place and not to serve the interest and the safety of gamblers, I think this should not matter at all instead we must  choose a site that had been serving the forum of not the whole gambling industry with trust over the years.
so we will be having more safer gaming than  just a scam here and there like what mentioned by you.
Anonymously gambling is very important and that is why many of these casinos choose to use crypto gambling that fiat which is more safer and faster. Casinos now want gamblers to keep playing on there casinos which is the reason why many of these gamblers sites are looking for a better way to make sure that deposit transaction is more faster so gamblers can keep playing and losing there funds.
If you truly understand the market now and how Gambling business works in crypto? then you will surely see that almost all of casinos now are implementing KYC, either before deposit or before withdrawals?
so no matter how you wanted to be anonymous yet this is not going to happen your way.

You are absolutely right, in each casino that I have entered they ask for KYC in some way, those that have not asked me for KYC is because I have not completed the necessary quota to make a withdrawal, but when I go to the comments in the thread I confirm that if the require, for my part I don't care much about anonymity anymore, I know that it is something very difficult to achieve, there are many controls that have been made so that people take away that right and more and more efforts are being made to achieve zero anonymity and zero privacy, we as a player can not do much, claims can be made, but in the end we know that you can not fight against the big ones.

Ending up on having no choice but to comply if you do see that you do really love to play or continue to hang on with a particular platform because if you dont then you would just simply jump into other place.

Its true that platforms will really be asking further verifications once you do hit up some withdrawal threshold amount which is something casual or typical and just like you on which i dont really bother myself or

thinking up that much because i couldnt really able to hit up that threshold most of the time this is why im really still that confident that it could deal up and play gambling
without worrying about kyc aspect or something in related with these stuffs.

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October 18, 2022, 11:30:51 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.
This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.

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October 20, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?


Of course I think anonymity in gambling is important, most people would be more comfortable when gambling if identity or personal information is not known.
but for now many popular casinos have implemented KYC verification, in fact almost all gambling sites have implemented KYC verification.
in almost all countries some popular casinos have and must implement KYC, in the end we will comply with those regulations and KYC verification as well.
as long as we must be able to choose a casino that is trusted and has a good reputation.
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.
This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.
Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.
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October 20, 2022, 09:05:52 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.
This is one of the reasons why many gamblers prefer using a crypto casinos to gamble and get things done without any stress of thinking of exposing there identity to gambling platforms. Everyone wants to be safe from any future attack which might come as a result of the information these casinos might have gotten from us. Everyone wants there identity to be unknown which is one of the good reasons I do see much many crypto gamblers prefer gambling on a crypto casinos.
Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.
Actually most of platforms now are regulated and they have included on their terms and conditions that they could anytime ask out for some verification depending on their likes or discretion which does

simply means that on the time you do make out some registering on a site then you should really be anticipating or expecting that anything could happen.If you do give out importance of anonymity

and you are also a big wagerer or player then you would definitely be coming into a point which you would really be needing those verification which isnt something surprising
when you do deal up with those businesses which are really that going in line with those regulation set up by the government.

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Without a doubt many people at the early stages of this market preferred to gamble in cryptocurrency casinos due to the respect they offered to their privacy, however the gambling industry in this market is now so big that governments decided they could not leave it alone any longer and they have passed regulations all over the world which force casinos to identify their customers, so each year it is getting harder and harder to find a reputable casino which will not force KYC on you at some point in time.
Many popular casinos today have followed government regulations although they still have a tolerance for not asking for KYC on low withdrawals, but anyone who gambles at a centralized casino should be willing to verify identity data if one is asked to factor in account security, looking like an account on a top exchange when many investors and traders have to verify KYC before being allowed to trade and withdraw.

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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

Still the problem remains, you value your anonymity but at the same time most of the law compliant sites will conduct some short of KYC and will have you in files. It is a choice youhave to make - be fully compliant and legal or go dark and then face the risks associated with working with business that may not have accountability. Let's say that their owner can also be anonymous when they want.

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October 21, 2022, 10:34:14 PM
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Hey guys.
Choosing crypto in casinos has always also to do with more anonimous gambling.
Anyway I'm curious how important is anonimity to you when you pay & play?

It's important and actually that's one of the reason why I like playing in crypto casinos. My anonymity matters because it can give me less worries while playing.

However, due to regulation wherein many casinos are becoming regulated by the Government, I had to comply on their kyc requirement, but this depends. I will only give my information on casinos that has good reputation and trusted by many gamblers. At this point, I comply in kyc of one specific casino that I trust.

Still the problem remains, you value your anonymity but at the same time most of the law compliant sites will conduct some short of KYC and will have you in files. It is a choice youhave to make - be fully compliant and legal or go dark and then face the risks associated with working with business that may not have accountability. Let's say that their owner can also be anonymous when they want.

Your analysis is very deep and I see very well what you mean, but does that mean that only those who have money and power are the ones who will have the right to anonymity? a casino owner or dulñeños if they have the right to be anonymous, because the ones who face the casino are the devs? that's what I know, in a project I always saw that, I have doubts if things work that way in a casino, sometimes I think that what regulations bring are more problems and confusion, but within all this, what are they looking for undress people with KYC? For governments to strangle the economies of the people who make some profit?

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