STAKE SCAMMED $100K AND NOT REPLYING EMAILS FOR 6 MONTHS

[khaled0111]

Any accusation without proof is just bullshit as we can mark from the writing of words that are concocted to bring down the reputation of Stake casino.

I am not trying to be the devil's advocate here but what about looking at this from the other side?
What about the allegations made by casinos when the ban a player's account and confiscate his money. Accusing him of match fixing or having multiple accounts.. without providing any evidences and their pretext is always that they don't won't to publish personal information or disclose how their anti-cheat systems work! Do you think it's acceptable?
Just to be clear, am asking in general and not about this particular case.

[Strongkored]

Any accusation without proof is just bullshit as we can mark from the writing of words that are concocted to bring down the reputation of Stake casino.

I am not trying to be the devil's advocate here but what about looking at this from the other side?
What about the allegations made by casinos when the ban a player's account and confiscate his money. Accusing him of match fixing or having multiple accounts.. without providing any evidences and their pretext is always that they don't won't to publish personal information or disclose how their anti-cheat systems work! Do you think it's acceptable?
Just to be clear, am asking in general and not about this particular case.

I don't think this is a matter of being accepted or not, but more about maintaining the privacy of people whose accounts have been banned by the casino, could be the casino will have new problems if they open it to the public because it means revealing players' personal data.
The player has been given the opportunity by the casino to prove that he is cheating or not by doing KYC but he actually includes false data so that it makes the casino believe that the player is dishonest and as far as I know so far only KYC is the method used to prove all accusations against players.

[Haunebu]

It’s brutal to threat them that way but you have a point since they sold there reputation for a penny payment when they participate on 1xbit campaign knowing that it’s a scam and it will cost  them there reputation but he also has a valid point that there words sometimes can give contribution if the content is really informative. Tag is just a personal judgement by DT which not the official law of the forum.

FYI I’m not with them. I’m just tackling the contribution over reputation but I’m not making comment about his post quality because I didn’t review it. I’m speaking in general discussion.

1xbit and similar scam site shills deserve to be scolded since they are helping these scam sites flourish by attracting innocent victims which helps them sustain their businesses in the long-term.

I understand what you are trying to say here, but it's difficult to trust any shill willing to do anything for the sake of money.

[wxa7115]

Any accusation without proof is just bullshit as we can mark from the writing of words that are concocted to bring down the reputation of Stake casino.

I am not trying to be the devil's advocate here but what about looking at this from the other side?
What about the allegations made by casinos when the ban a player's account and confiscate his money. Accusing him of match fixing or having multiple accounts.. without providing any evidences and their pretext is always that they don't won't to publish personal information or disclose how their anti-cheat systems work! Do you think it's acceptable?
Just to be clear, am asking in general and not about this particular case.

Well, it is true we have not seen any evidence from Stake about how they determined the OP was fixing matches and betting on them, and I would like to see casinos offer more evidence when they make accusations like that as well.

However the little evidence that we have seen about this case about the multiple attempts by the OP to try to identify himself with many different documents leads me to believe Stake is on the right here.

[Stunna]

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

While you think you are doing something it has actually worked against you as it has motivated us more and more to detect and block your further abuse.

As soon as I saw the OP's trust page I realised that he has no credibility whatsoever. I don't know who he is trying to fool.

A red tag from people don't really shows that someone is bad, but the problem is the be person is tag the level of it's sincerity, like so many of us in 1xbit we have not scam somebody before and we heard so many negative tag with different different people and that doesn't mean that we won't bring a good information to the forum, tag is different from character of someone

If the tag is for having worked for a casino that is known for scamming, the tag is correct, and says a lot about you.

[Haunebu]

Both Stunna and Baskin didn't share any proof to support their respective statements which is why it's easier to believe Stunna when compared to Baskin in this case.

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

Just checked the thread which you linked and your explanation makes sense even though you didn't provide any proof to support whatever you stated. These match-fixing groups are a serious threat to all betting sites.

[mak013]

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

So, the fake KYC just an additional crime. The main crime is fixed matches and the OP just wants to get cheat money.
Thx for information, i have no more questions in this thread.

Both Stunna and Baskin didn't share any proof to support their respective statements which is why it's easier to believe Stunna when compared to Baskin in this case.

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

Just checked the thread which you linked and your explanation makes sense even though you didn't provide any proof to support whatever you stated. These match-fixing groups are a serious threat to all betting sites.

The OP can easily prove his words if he make screenshot of his bets that date and we don`t see the bets @Stunna told us about. But i think that we willn`t see such a screen from the @Baskin198

[shasan]

DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE, THEY ARE HOLDING MY MONEY FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS

NO REPLY TO EMAILS, NO REPLY TO FORUM MESSAGES AND LIVE SUPPORT IS NOT REPLYING EITHER

DRAKE PROMOS COSTED TOO MUCH MONEY AND STAKE IS SELECTIVE SCAMMING NOW, CAREFUL!

I am not fond of stake.com as they have limited my bet limit on cricket. But the accusation you have made has not provided any proof which can make confusion to anyone whether you are accusing perfectly or you are providing false accusation. So, it will be better if you can provide as much information as possible regarding the accusation you have made.

[Chipstars]

What's the point of crypto casino if you've no anonymity and you've to do kyc to play or withdraw..

Honestly these casinos are big FK scam, when you're losing they don't care, and when you're winning they want all kind of kyc and verification., Thought, people chose crypto casino mostly for anonymous purpose to not get tracked or privacy from some third world gangster bookies. But no wait, there's something else.. Honestly, when you see the admin panel of them, setting limit on individual accounts and rigging for them, you wouldn't dare to place one bet at all on these places. Of all these places
Bc.game
Stake
Bitsler
Others...
, bcGame topped the list of scamming people, even some previous mod posted the admin panel live on YouTube, showing how they used to scam users there..Check out, beware

Wow, do you have a link to that video?

[Kemarit]

Any accusation without proof is just bullshit as we can mark from the writing of words that are concocted to bring down the reputation of Stake casino.

I am not trying to be the devil's advocate here but what about looking at this from the other side?
What about the allegations made by casinos when the ban a player's account and confiscate his money. Accusing him of match fixing or having multiple accounts.. without providing any evidences and their pretext is always that they don't won't to publish personal information or disclose how their anti-cheat systems work! Do you think it's acceptable?
Just to be clear, am asking in general and not about this particular case.

Or it is possible for the OP to go to arbitration? so that they can presented their evidence in front of someone that is not biased and knows a thing or to because they have experienced about it already?

Lately we have seen so many accusations and when casino presents their evidence the accuser still insists that they did nothing wrong. So the next course of action should be going to a middle man or arbitration to settle everything.

[Jawhead999]

I don't completely understand why many users are keep replying with a same opinion because the @OP is already inactive and that's mean this accusation should be closed after @Stunna replied above. There's many trolls and mad gambers who keep blaming the casino in order to feel his satisfy and make the reputation ruined, but as everyone know how trusted the casino and the experience they got when gamble on Stake will not think Stake is scam.

[Peanutswar]

Due to lack of evidence, and based on the red tag, I guess looks like OP lose a lot with a stake and created a fake KYC, it is better if this thread should be closed there's no update too and an inappropriate thread or move to the scam and accusations.

[rohang]

I've already responded here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.msg59535373#msg59535373

And since then he has attempted to abuse on more accounts.

If OP is still trying to abuse it, that means there are still fixed TT matches available (as you said, OP has fixed games info)

Why is stake still offering TT matches? Are you guys also refunding the players who lose? I highly doubt that you are,

Either there are no fixed matches, or

There are fixed TT matches and stake is knowingly still offering them , since they can always not payout people like OP while other users are losing on other side. Essentially no risk offering for stake?

[Eureka_07]

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Why is stake still offering TT matches? Are you guys also refunding the players who lose? I highly doubt that you are,

So you want Stake to shut down their Table Tennis betting just because few of these games are allegedly fixed? Is there any rule on gambling or any platform which can help support that statement?
If you read what stunna said I believe you'll understand it better. There are also other fixed matches from other sports, do you also want Stake to remove them?
Personally, I think the OP is suspicious. The documents that he gave for his KYC says it all.

[serjent05]

Any accusation without proof is just bullshit as we can mark from the writing of words that are concocted to bring down the reputation of Stake casino.

I am not trying to be the devil's advocate here but what about looking at this from the other side?
What about the allegations made by casinos when the ban a player's account and confiscate his money. Accusing him of match fixing or having multiple accounts.. without providing any evidences and their pretext is always that they don't won't to publish personal information or disclose how their anti-cheat systems work! Do you think it's acceptable?
Just to be clear, am asking in general and not about this particular case.

When a player stated a case and asked to gain sympathy or support from the community, it is a must to provide detailed evidence and proof that he is innocent.  It is easy to play the victim and accused the casino of stealing his fund when in reality he is actually the one exploiting the casino.  We had seen this kind of case many times here.  In this case, it isn't the gambling platform that needed sympathy or support but the player who feels he is wronged. So definitely the player must provide valid proof that he is actually wronged by the casino.

[sunsilk]

When a player stated a case and asked to gain sympathy or support from the community, it is a must to provide detailed evidence and proof that he is innocent.  It is easy to play the victim and accused the casino of stealing his fund when in reality he is actually the one exploiting the casino.  We had seen this kind of case many times here.  In this case, it isn't the gambling platform that needed sympathy or support but the player who feels he is wronged. So definitely the player must provide valid proof that he is actually wronged by the casino.

There are too many cases like that, they play as the victim but when assessed by the casino from their accounts. They have found to be the ones violating the rules of that casino they're complaining about.

Also, it's easy to say that they've been robbed or scammed where in fact that they've lost. And if there's a huge partnership that allowed them to advertise, they're criticizing it as if the casino don't have the fund to put on such ads deals.

[Woodie]

I don't really know whom to believe at this point but i must say you have a very slim chance to be trusted from the above trust rating given to you by some reputable users.
Secondly to back your claim you need to provide some tangible and a cogent evidence to back the proof you were scammed $100k without a feedback till date.

Evidence, Evidence, Evidence!!! When it comes to opening a case against any company or person one needs some kind of supporting evidence to a claim to get things resolved and get the right people to help, but without it this can be a seen as an attack on the company to hurt their reputation. I see negs on Ops profile for using fake IDs which opens a door for more questions to be asked than getting the help needed.. Am just hoping stakes T&Cs doesn't give OP a deaf for the fakes used here.

[Jemzx00]

When a player stated a case and asked to gain sympathy or support from the community, it is a must to provide detailed evidence and proof that he is innocent.  It is easy to play the victim and accused the casino of stealing his fund when in reality he is actually the one exploiting the casino.  We had seen this kind of case many times here.  In this case, it isn't the gambling platform that needed sympathy or support but the player who feels he is wronged. So definitely the player must provide valid proof that he is actually wronged by the casino.

There are too many cases like that, they play as the victim but when assessed by the casino from their accounts. They have found to be the ones violating the rules of that casino they're complaining about.

Also, it's easy to say that they've been robbed or scammed where in fact that they've lost. And if there's a huge partnership that allowed them to advertise, they're criticizing it as if the casino don't have the fund to put on such ads deals.

Most of the cases being posted on the forum are more likely to be false or just rants to try and ruin the casino's reputation which is unlikely to happen due to lack of evidence.

However on this instance, the OP already admitted that he had falsified his documents multiple times which is already a violation against the casino's ToS. On top of that, there are suspicious activities made on his account which are the match fixing which is a criminal offense. The casino already provided brief explanation about the match fixing allegations whereas the OP has connections and transaction to a match fixer.

There was no mentioned that the OP denied the said connection to a match fixer but only to the match fixing. He also doesn't have any evidence or proof against the allegations on his account.


Anyways, I don't think that this thread should be active anymore as the OP has not posted anything about this case.

[sunsilk]

Most of the cases being posted on the forum are more likely to be false or just rants to try and ruin the casino's reputation which is unlikely to happen due to lack of evidence.

Yeah, most of them are rants and can't accept defeat so they are accusing the casino as if they're cheated but in fact, they've just come into a natural loss.

However on this instance, the OP already admitted that he had falsified his documents multiple times which is already a violation against the casino's ToS. On top of that, there are suspicious activities made on his account which are the match fixing which is a criminal offense. The casino already provided brief explanation about the match fixing allegations whereas the OP has connections and transaction to a match fixer.

There was no mentioned that the OP denied the said connection to a match fixer but only to the match fixing. He also doesn't have any evidence or proof against the allegations on his account.

If there's any progress or if this has already been solved between op and the casino, he's the only one that knows what's the progress now for this case.