Sinbad.io Mixer - secure, fast and easy to use

[SinBad.io]

Recent service update: Now for improved anonymity you can set the delay up to seven days. It's recommended to use different delays for each destination address, it's significantly improves the privacy of your mixings.

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[Ojima-ojo]

I would like to mix some bitcoins and send it to a centralized exchange, so I want to know if the mixer works well with centralized exchanges or not?
Because as far as I know there are some centralized exchanges rejecting the Bitcoin coming from the mixers, so I would like to know before I try is there a problem sending the Bitcoin (mixed in your mixer) to the centralized exchanges?

Why taking all the risks by using an exchange address to receive mixed coins? I remember my binance  balance was frozen for 24 after depositing directly from the mixer. The amount was 50$ but the binance system seemed detect it as suspecious and has to check again my activities. This is what the support agent explained and i found it reliable somehow.
So, use the mixer and send mixed coins to your personal wallet address before resending it to your exchange address.

I agree with what yhiaali3 is saying, I think it is more better and safer for your mixed Bitcoin to first. drop on your wallet or any other wallet of your choice that you own the recovery phrase and not an exchange wallet that you don't have access to recover if anything happens.

Am going to try Sinbad mix systems with my first-week campaign payment to see how far that can take me, since I sign up with their campaign a few days ago.

So the best posible secure way to receive your mixed bitcoin is with your cold wallet exchange wallet not advisable due to some anti-money laundering laws.

[CoinEraser]

Working on it, will be adding Spanish soon -snip-

Very good that they offer other languages. As I've seen, they've added Spanish by now. Next I would suggest german. Germans are a bit spoiled and like it when the site is displayed in their language too. At least that's the case in my circle of friends. But make sure that the translation is good and correct. Otherwise, it would rather put people off. 

[hZti]

Germans are a bit spoiled and like it when the site is displayed in their language too.

I can confirm that. If the site is not in german, many will not use it because they like to understand everything 100%. If the translation has mistakes however it will be the biggest red flag you could give a german person. So if you can't get it 100% correct, you should defiantly not do it at all 

[SinBad.io]

Thanks for the feedback
Are there many mixer users among germans?

Next I would suggest german. Germans are a bit spoiled and like it when the site is displayed in their language too. At least that's the case in my circle of friends. But make sure that the translation is good and correct. Otherwise, it would rather put people off. 

[hZti]

That is not easy to answer, since mixing is not something you would make public. However the german crypto community is very active so I guess there is also a demand. See this video for the most active communities:

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/12312077/

(Klick to start)

[CoinEraser]

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I can confirm that. If the site is not in german, many will not use it because they like to understand everything 100%. If the translation has mistakes however it will be the biggest red flag you could give a german person. So if you can't get it 100% correct, you should defiantly not do it at all 

Thank you for the confirmation. 

Thanks for the feedback
Are there many mixer users among germans?

Unfortunately, I don't have any numbers or statistics on this, but I have friends who regularly use a mixer. Since bitcoin is now also very well known in germany, many people also realize that it is not 100% anonymous and therefore use mixer to protect their privacy. 

[mendace]

Are there many mixer users among germans?

As said before, I doubt there is any public data on the use of Bitcoin mixers.

However, there is a big German Bitcoin community and it’s pretty likely that there is a strong demand for a reliable mixing service. There are some other services already, but if you’re here for the long run, I am sure it makes sense to focus on the German market as well.

I don’t know about your marketing budget, but I guess it won’t be a bad idea to add a decent (!) German translation. If you need any help, I am sure there are many capable German users on Bitcointalk who could help with a translation.

I connect to your post and offer to translate the service into Italian if you wish.  If you are interested you can PM me or quote this post.

[dkbit98]

@Sinbad can you say more about claims I found posted on twatter by ErgoBTC.
They claim that Sinbad mixer is working very similar like previously sanctioned Blender, with only difference being use of script type bech32 instead of P2SH.
There are also claims of abusing coinjoins services like Wasabi and Whirlpool with purpose of fooling analytics.
More information and links of transactions can be found in public, but they basically say that Blender is now Sinbad:
https://twitter.censors.us/ErgoBTC/status/1624415264103190528#m

[LeGaulois]

@Sinbad.io (or Mehdi  )

Hello,

I would like you explain the following point because I find it a bit ambiguous.

Wired.com sent an email to you. Basically, it was to talk about the funds coming from the north korean's hacks. (the $10-15 million sent to your service)

You explained your point of view about privacy, and that was a good one.

But you also said this:

In case I receive a request from [Chainalysis] or any other institution I will investigate the matter and make my opinion on it

To snitch or not to snitch.
The sentence I posted basically means you're not sure if you will do it. And you need 'to investigate' to decide if you will do it

The bitcoin mixers industry is based on trust. Am I supposed to trust a service that could potentially report something to LE.

Don't take it wrong, but your opinion is ambiguous

[SinBad.io]

As I have commented to the press, Sinbad is not relaunched Blender
I'm sure you can find all detailed answers on the web

@Sinbad can you say more about claims I found posted on twatter by ErgoBTC.
They claim that Sinbad mixer is working very similar like previously sanctioned Blender, with only difference being use of script type bech32 instead of P2SH.
There are also claims of abusing coinjoins services like Wasabi and Whirlpool with purpose of fooling analytics.
More information and links of transactions can be found in public, but they basically say that Blender is now Sinbad:
https://twitter.censors.us/ErgoBTC/status/1624415264103190528#m

[SinBad.io]

I understand your point
But I only said that I will consider the request if I receive it. It doesn't mean that I am going to share any data. In fact, all the information about mixing sessions is deleted after mixing is completed, so there is nothing to share.

@Sinbad.io (or Mehdi  )

Hello,

I would like you explain the following point because I find it a bit ambiguous.

Wired.com sent an email to you. Basically, it was to talk about the funds coming from the north korean's hacks. (the $10-15 million sent to your service)

You explained your point of view about privacy, and that was a good one.

But you also said this:

In case I receive a request from [Chainalysis] or any other institution I will investigate the matter and make my opinion on it

To snitch or not to snitch.
The sentence I posted basically means you're not sure if you will do it. And you need 'to investigate' to decide if you will do it

The bitcoin mixers industry is based on trust. Am I supposed to trust a service that could potentially report something to LE.

Don't take it wrong, but your opinion is ambiguous

[JollyGood]

How wide reaching can the consequences of Chipmixer money laundering be?

Now that Chipmixer has shut down and an international arrest warrant been issued for their owner, how do you feel about possibly suffering the same fate?

Chipmixer was probably the biggest mixer before it was unceremoniously seized a couple of days ago by the US authorities along with a lot of help from international agencies including Germany which seized physical servers and $46 million worth of crypto.

If international authorities can shut Chipmixer down they can shut down any mixer therefore what are your views on the whole matter?

[TryNinja]

If international authorities can shut Chipmixer down they can shut down any mixer therefore what are your views on the whole matter?

To be fair, ChipMixer did a massive mistake by using his real name on one of the PayPal accounts (while using a bunch of puppet accounts with mastering). It seems like one could survive even longer if no mistakes were made.

[JollyGood]

That might not have been their only mistake, as the days unfold maybe other errors will be publicised too and it will make interesting reading to read up on how the FBI and other agencies managed to pinpoint him. I did not know about his PayPal error until you mentioned it, I have not looked too deeply in to the circumstances on the Chipmixer website being seized but need to have a full read up.

I was curious about how the OP felt about what happened with Chipmixer because it is a possibility he could possibly end up on the FBI most wanted website and have an international arrest warrant out on him.

To be fair, ChipMixer did a massive mistake by using his real name on one of the PayPal accounts (while using a bunch of puppet accounts with mastering). It seems like one could survive even longer if no mistakes were made.

[digaran]

Criminals be advised, it is time to pack your money laundry stuff and hit the road, the "good guys" are on to you.
As the recent events have revealed, even a service such as chipmonks (aka, chipmixer) kept all the logs on everything and they were dishonest about it, not that surprising though because when you are a criminal lying is rewarding.

Now I'm not saying you guys keep logs and can track every move of your clients, but nothing is stopping you from keeping logs, so the smart move is to avoid such services.

[zasad@]

Criminals be advised, it is time to pack your money laundry stuff and hit the road, the "good guys" are on to you.
As the recent events have revealed, even a service such as chipmonks (aka, chipmixer) kept all the logs on everything and they were dishonest about it, not that surprising though because when you are a criminal lying is rewarding.

Now I'm not saying you guys keep logs and can track every move of your clients, but nothing is stopping you from keeping logs, so the smart move is to avoid such services.

I think that users who use centralized mixers are aware of this. If the owner of the mixer is caught and does not cooperate with the special services, then he will be in prison for life. If the owner of the mixer cooperates with the special services and hands over the logs of operations, then he can spend 5-10 years in prison. Therefore, after the mixer, at least exchange bitcoins for monero, and then exchange them again for bitcoins in various services.

[hugeblack]

How wide reaching can the consequences of Chipmixer money laundering be?

Now that Chipmixer has shut down and an international arrest warrant been issued for their owner, how do you feel about possibly suffering the same fate?

According to this topic ---> Blender.io = Sinbad.io | Thoughts?
And if this is true, it will lead us to -----> First mixer sanctioned by US authorities (blender.io)

WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctioned virtual currency mixer Blender.io (Blender), which is used by the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) to support its malicious cyber activities and money-laundering of stolen virtual currency. On March 23, 2022, Lazarus Group, a DPRK state-sponsored cyber hacking group, carried out the largest virtual currency heist to date, worth almost $620 million, from a blockchain project linked to the online game Axie Infinity; Blender was used in processing over $20.5 million of the illicit proceeds. Under the pressure of robust U.S. and UN sanctions, the DPRK has resorted to illicit activities, including cyber-enabled heists from cryptocurrency exchanges and financial institutions, to generate revenue for its unlawful weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and ballistic missile programs.

Source ---> https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0768

It's just hypotheses, but if it's true, it won't take long for the justice authorities to do so.
More importantly, how does the site work on Cloudflare?

[n0nce]

More importantly, how does the site work on Cloudflare?

I'm worried about that, as well. Anyone using the clearnet site should consider their mixes pointless, since all data is decrypted at Cloudflare. IP, input address, output address, amount, everything.

There is an onion page: http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/
But I don't know if I can trust a service who has a clearnet version of their site that uses Cloudflare.

Another issue:

What is the mixing code?

Mixing code guarantees that you will not receive you own bitcoins which you sent previous times if you use the mixer repeatedly.

Besides the spelling mistake, such a code essentially links your mixing sessions together. I don't see how anyone can think this is a nice feature for a mixer. YoBit has it, as well..

[jack80]

today it doesn't work, this error message appears:
"cannot create a mixing,try again later"