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[bhadz]

Dear users, the service is closed for update and maintenance, the date of works completion will be posted later.

Yeah, the website is inaccessible at the moment. But hopefully, the maintenance and the update will be done very soon.
Thanks for keeping us updated, Sinbad representative. 

I do not think this is the right way to do the maintenance of a site. When I open sinbad, I come across this page, showing that the site is inaccessible.

https://i.ibb.co/3RqQh9C/sinbad.png

Every website has the right to do maintenance. If you think that this is not the right way to do maintenance, IMHO what is not right is that there were no announcements made. But in this case, they just did. And by the time that you have visited them, they have announced that they'd do a maintenance so that's expected that you'll see that error.

I understand that people at bitcointalk are aware of this maintenance, but what about the people accessing Sinbad directly and not using the bitcointalk forum, they will just think that that site is down. It will have a serious bad impact on their business.

And the concern you have brought is right but I think that every user should be aware of the community channels that they have and they've announced it there on their Telegram channel.

Isn't good to put a page showing that the site is in maintenance mode, rather than making it completely offline especially when it is a service site ?
Also, there is no intimation of when this maintenance will be over, usually the engineers are aware of the tentative maintenance time 

I agree although this is a server matter and will take a few days or so as they've said on their telegram.

[virasog]

They are back. Wallet address was filled up. Long live to sinbad!

I am sorry but they are not back. Yes, for the bitcointalk community we know that the wallet has been topped up and signature payments have been cleared and  they are back but what about the outsiders ? Those who access the mixer directly without knowing about bitcointalk forum ?

I mentioned this concern here and i will insist on it. Its been almost two days that the site is down without any intimation to the external world  

You have to improve on the communication side, I believe it is the missing element to raise your quality level even further.  

Again a simple html page showing Site is down for maintenance is much better for a business as compared to the site being offline altogether for unknown number of days. Also note that not everyone follows the telegram too.

[examplens]

I mentioned this concern here and i will insist on it. Its been almost two days that the site is down without any intimation to the external world  

If you follow all their communication channels, you will get more information. I will share their last announcement on Telegram (from yesterday 28. Nov). They seem to have everything under control

https://t.me/Sinbadio_English/1116

Hello
Servers maintenance, nothing major, but time is required for this update
We appreciate your patience and will update you on the time of the launch later

[bitmover]

Again a simple html page showing Site is down for maintenance is much better for a business as compared to the site being offline altogether for unknown number of days. Also note that not everyone follows the telegram too.

I agree that an HTML page with more information on the website would be better, specially for those customers which do not use bitcointalk.org or telegram

[joker_josue]

Possible scam exit. Still haven't received about 5btc

You removed the addresses, so we can't help you much here. How many confirmations are there for the transaction you sent Bitcoin to Sinbad?
I also suggest that you go to their official Telegram channel and ask this question. https://t.me/Sinbadio_English

Omg, there is several receiving addresses, 2/3 - ok, 1/3 - not ok

I wrote them to support@sinbad.io

It could be. But, without presenting more concrete information or more evident evidence, you should not come forward and make accusations.
As mentioned, support returned from vacation on the 28th, there should be a lot of emails to read. You should wait a few more days to see if you get feedback.

[examplens]

Omg, there is several receiving addresses, 2/3 - ok, 1/3 - not ok

I wrote them to support@sinbad.io

You can try also on adv@ sinbad.io
Or even o Jabber: sinbadio@exploit.im
I really don't think they will fool anyone like this. I'm pretty sure it's a misunderstanding, but you definitely need to hear what they have to say in your case.

[FIODNederland]

To all criminal users of former mixer Sinbad.io,
This is a collective warning issued by the Dutch Investigation Service for Financial and Tax Crime (FIOD) and the Dutch Public Prosecution Office.
Our investigation has uncovered illicit activities on this mixer platform and the logs obtained have compromised the anonymity of numerous users.
We urge all criminal users and admins of mixers to cease all unlawful actions immediately. Persistent engagement will lead to severe legal consequences. We are resolute in pursuing and prosecuting all involved in criminal activities.
Your anonymity is no longer assured. Law enforcement actions are imminent.
With Vigilance,
Dutch Investigation Service for Financial and Tax Crime (FIOD) and the Dutch Public Prosecution Office

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[FIODNederland]

[Orpichukwu]

Seeing this post on both the Sinbad-signature-thread and multiple threads created by the same user, I taught: this was some sort of cooked-up-story from some angry users, but hell no, just accessed both the Clearnet and that of Tor, and the warning messages are all displayed their.
 
These is just happening few days after the upgrade announcement. Is it that the team behind Sinbad saw this coming or where they really not aware of it? Und what's exactly the reason why regulators are coming after mixers up to the extent of holding seizing the site? What will also be the faith of those who might have used the service, of which the warning banner claims they have access to few of their information?

[digaran]

Please refrain from double posting, you are in our territory now. Lol
Alright, are you alarming the criminals to stop using this service because their privacy is at risk? Why would you do that? Wouldn't be better if after seizing the service, you could keep operations to identify more criminals?

Also, please don't scare people here, other than a few, everyone in here is trying to earn a living, they are not criminals, you should know that, law enforcements should be tough with criminals and make ordinary citizens feel safe.

If this is a legit announcement, then 👏👏👏
But know this, privacy is our right, as long as we are not doing anything wrong, we will stand and fight for our rights.

[BitcoinsGreat]

I do not understand this.
The Sinbad site was down for maintenance but now when I open the site, it shows the above screenshot.

The site was down for maintenance.

I would prefer to know the words from the Sinbad management on this.

[digaran]

Dude, they are hiding in some holes by now, you want official announcement? It says they were in bed with north korea, wake up.

[Woodie]

Am not saying anything, but for someone who just joined the forum, you seem to know your way around this place  

To all criminal users of former mixer Sinbad.io,

Is everyone that users a mixer been called a criminal, or this is a "to whom it may concern" statement

Btw, aren't people entitled to have some privacy away from prying eyes because not everyone needs to know whats happening in ones financial life, especially the money footprint that from not using a mixer

This is a collective warning issued by the Dutch Investigation Service for Financial and Tax Crime (FIOD) and the Dutch Public Prosecution Office.

Dutch interesting...

Does it mean Sinbad was likely Dutch, or most of its users were from Dutch land...

[salad daging]

I read the news and it is true that the SinBad service has been seized by the FBI, Dutch and Finnish police.
And Sinbad was sanctioned by the US Treasury Department for North Korea's so-called Lazarus Group.
This article also mentions the signature campaign escrow address that still holds 0.35 and has received 15 BTC.
It is also said that the store is processing the mixed proceeds from the Horizon Bridge and Axie Infinity hacks.

Source: https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/11/29/crypto-mixer-sanctioned-by-us-treasury-for-north-korea-allegations-as-fbi-and-finish-police-seize-website/

[paid2]

I read the news and it is true that the SinBad service has been seized by the FBI, Dutch and Finnish police.
And Sinbad was sanctioned by the US Treasury Department for North Korea's so-called Lazarus Group.
This article also mentions the signature campaign escrow address that still holds 0.35 and has received 15 BTC.
It is also said that the store is processing the mixed proceeds from the Horizon Bridge and Axie Infinity hacks.

This is very sad for the community. (But still, what a stange way to announce it on the forum, I am still surprised.)

However, this should be a reminder for all mixing services users, to always use Tor.

The whole Sinbad story was very predictable. I've started to think that their time was counted some months ago, after reading Chainanalysis report:

Sinbad, one of the market leaders in the mixer's industry, attracts a lot of attention (that's why I stopped promoting their service), and I personally think that this is not to the users' advantage. Just read the latest Chainanalysis report and see how they are cited as the mixer the most used by North Korea to launder stolen funds for example. If your mixer's name appears in a lot of reports, how can you be 100% confident with the idea of mixing your coins via their service (especially for those selling them to a CEX at the end) ?  From my point of view, I'd be worried about mixing large quantities of coins via a service that gets so much notice and noise.

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It looks like not many users lost funds (or no users at all), but still, we all knew that they were specifically under some unfriendly radars..

[digaran]

Unfriendly radar? Dude they were love buddies with hackers, when authorities catch the bad guys, they are not unfriendly anymore, it doesn't matter how messed up the whole world is, without force, nobody is safe, so you should thank them for helping to make the world a better place.

We do fight for freedom, but not for criminals' freedom, there is a line in every revolution, if we cross that line, then we are no different than criminals.

On a side note, did somebody just tagged the account of an international agency with red?  I go bash my head against a wall.🤯

[LoyceV]

@FIODNederland: Can you confirm this account belongs to FIOD, by posting the username in fiod.nl/Bitcointalk.txt? If so, I'll leave neutral feedback confirming you are who you say you are, which will add greatly to your credibility.

Copper Membership means you've paid using Bitcoin. Interesting

To all criminal users of former mixer Sinbad.io,

Is everyone that users a mixer been called a criminal, or this is a "to whom it may concern" statement

From their own website (archived):

A cryptocurrency mixing service is not necessarily illegal.

[Nwada001]

The signature escrow address was also mentioned in the article as part of the Sinbad wallet address, which holds about $13,000 worth of BTC at the current price. I hope this won't leave any trace on the participants who are being paid from the address, tiring them down with something to deal with in the exchange since the article has already started and US citizens and others are highly advised not to interact with any of those addresses in the future.
 

Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control, or OFAC, designated two Bitcoin addresses and two email addresses tied to Sinbad, banning all U.S. persons and anyone who transacts with the global financial system from interacting with the addresses in future.

According to a Blockchain.com block explorer, one address currently holds around 0.35 BTC (worth around $13,000) at the moment, but has received a hair over 15 BTC (worth around $570,000 at current prices) overall.

[PytagoraZ]

The signature escrow address was also mentioned in the article as part of the Sinbad wallet address, which holds about $13,000 worth of BTC at the current price. I hope this won't leave any trace on the participants who are being paid from the address, tiring them down with something to deal with in the exchange since the article has already started and US citizens and others are highly advised not to interact with any of those addresses in the future.
 

Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control, or OFAC, designated two Bitcoin addresses and two email addresses tied to Sinbad, banning all U.S. persons and anyone who transacts with the global financial system from interacting with the addresses in future.

According to a Blockchain.com block explorer, one address currently holds around 0.35 BTC (worth around $13,000) at the moment, but has received a hair over 15 BTC (worth around $570,000 at current prices) overall.

I also suspect that what is meant in the article is Sinbad's escrow wallet. Is there a possibility that there will be tracking of all transactions from that address?

I hope this is just an investigation and if no money laundering is found then they will come back, but who knows, I just started reading some articles about chipmixer. But the chipmixer campaign participants are fine, so I suspect that the campaign participants have nothing to do with the Sinbad case

[joker_josue]

@FIODNederland: Can you confirm this account belongs to FIOD, by posting the username in fiod.nl/Bitcointalk.txt? If so, I'll leave neutral feedback confirming you are who you say you are, which will add greatly to your credibility.

Copper Membership means you've paid using Bitcoin. Interesting

I was curious about something.
Is there any official announcement, without what is written in the news already mentioned on Coindesk?


EDIT
I found the official announcements:
https://www.fiod.nl/fiod-takes-large-crypto-currency-mixer-off-the-air/
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1933