Goodbye Pandukelana2712 - Thanks for your contribution.

[KingsDen]

I am always saddened and troubled when someone dies especially someone who is in their youthful age. Whether I know the person or not I feel sad.

I will say that the deceased was a very nice person , by looking for a way to leave money with his relatives for a loan repayment.
I also believe he/she has been misunderstood as a bad person, maybe a scammer who ran away with a loan given him but no one knew that he is no mor.  This could also be the case of some people in the forym that we have stopped see you for some time.

May the souls of all the departed bitcointalk forum members rest in peace.
I was moved to check his profile especially his last messages to see if he had the feeling that he would die but I discovered that most of his last messages were written in a language that I do not understand.

1. Is it possible to lock the pandukelana2712 account so that it can no longer be accessed by anyone if in the future hackers manage to find out its login data?

The account is harmless and cannot be used by any future hacker because it has already been neutral tagged as dead member. Moderators don't need bother.

[kawetsriyanto]

Should negative or neutral tags be given in a case like this?  I can't remember what's been done in the past when a member has died, and it seems like a neutral might not be enough to alert someone that the account shouldn't be active--but it also seems unwarranted, even if the text in the feedback is just a death notice.

I assume it should be neutral tags. Negative tags give a bad impression, seems like someone did bad things.

I do not know about local board Bahasa Indonesian, but I think that the comments above show that he was a good person.

Sure, he is a good person. He was one of the most active members of our local board and he gave many contributions.
Just take a look at his threads if you want to know more about his contribution: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1304130;sa=showPosts

1. Is it possible to lock the pandukelana2712 account so that it can no longer be accessed by anyone if in the future hackers manage to find out its login data?

I guess only Theymos and Cyrus can do it. But I am not sure whether it is necessary or not.
In my opinion, the most important thing is to give "A custom title: In memoriam" to his account profile. It was the same as on TECSHARE account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728

[Mate2237]

This is a painful exist to the family. Untimely dead is not something I want to hear.  Though I am not from there but I believe Pandukelana2712 was a promising young man in the family but dead is inevitable.

The story touched my heart. This is my first time of hearing forum user's death. My sympathy and condolences to the OP and the family. Please take heart (be strong).

[mamesso]

ربنا يرحمه
I do not know about local board Bahasa Indonesian, but I think that the comments above show that he was a good person.

pandukelana2712 has a great service for the Indonesian local board, his brilliant works and ideas are a source of inspiration for local Indonesian users. The news of his death came as a shock to all users on the Indonesian local board because his name was already well known in the forum especially the local board. One of the threads created by pandukelana2712 [Diskusi]Pengiriman bitcoin untuk transaksi kecil provide many benefits for local users.

I wish the rest of the members to remove the negative trust and lock the account (after confirming his death). I also wish @Darkstar_ to forgive the loan because he died.

Other members are waiting for a decision from @Darkstar_ (lender) to remove the red trust as the source of the problem is with the lenders. The good news is that before Pandukelana2712 died, he advised one of his friends to solve the problem with @Darkstar_, we are waiting for clarification from his friend because he is trying to pay off debts to lenders.

[_BlackStar]

Other members are waiting for a decision from @Darkstar_ (lender) to remove the red trust as the source of the problem is with the lenders. The good news is that before Pandukelana2712 died, he advised one of his friends to solve the problem with @Darkstar_, we are waiting for clarification from his friend because he is trying to pay off debts to lenders.

Some of the above users ^{[perhaps members of your local community]} have also said the same thing. But can you tell us where the problem is now? Have his friend pay off the loan to Darkstar_?

I don't think the feedback is removed if the loan has not been repaid especially since @pandukelana had passed it on to someone before his death. It's safe to assume that the negative tag will be changed or removed if the friend has paid off the loan to the lender.

[indah rezqi]

But can you tell us where the problem is now? Have his friend pay off the loan to Darkstar_?

There is good news about the loan situation, I got information on the local board that the loan will be repaid by his relatives to roylicik this week. Here's an excerpt, but maybe you need to use GT to read the information properly.

Hari ini Saya baru mendapatkan update dari yang bersangkutan, dia telpon saya melalui telegram dan mengatakan jika tidak ada halangan minggu ini dia akan segera transfer dana untuk melunasi tanggungan almarhum

Other members are waiting for a decision from @Darkstar_ (lender) to remove the red trust as the source of the problem is with the lenders.

mate, it will be finished as soon as the loan is paid off. I hope @pandukelana's relatives (trustee) can pay it off this week.

[skarais]

The loan is currently not repaid by dewo_sat as a friend of @pandukelana, but it is true that the repayment is planned to be made this week if there are no obstacles. Yes, hopefully everything that is planned can be completed so that the good name and reputation of the loan recipient (pandukelana) can return to good.

Although roycilik doesn't seem to have said anything in this thread, but I think he knows what to do when dewo_sat pays the loan.

[Pandu Geddon]

how will this payment be made? whether the return in BTC is the same as the loan (0.064 BTC). or back at the USDT rate at the time of borrowing?
BTC price in 2019 when borrowers apply for loans. certainly different from the current BTC price. I'm sure there will be negotiations to be carried out regarding this payment. unless the deceased has already given it to his friend in the form of BTC to be paid.

I hope the problem is resolved quickly. long enough to unravel all of this.

[skarais]

how will this payment be made? whether the return in BTC is the same as the loan (0.064 BTC). or back at the USDT rate at the time of borrowing?

Negotiations may have taken place, but I don't know for sure how it was done. It could be that the payment is adjusted to the USDT rate at the time the loan is granted, or it may also be adjusted to the current exchange rate. Only the lender can decide on how it's done, and I don't think we can say anything precise about that.

You can also monitor developments about this loan in the local thread. There is some information too.

[mamesso]

But can you tell us where the problem is now? Have his friend pay off the loan to Darkstar_?

My friend @indah rezqi from our local community has represented me answering this question right below your post.

I don't think the feedback is removed if the loan has not been repaid especially since @pandukelana had passed it on to someone before his death. It's safe to assume that the negative tag will be changed or removed if the friend has paid off the loan to the lender.

Of course, the negative tag will always be there as long as the loan has not been repaid by the relatives.
The positive value we can take from Pandukelana2712 is because of his honesty, before he died, he had left a message to his relatives to pay off his debt to Darkstar_.

Other members are waiting for a decision from @Darkstar_ (lender) to remove the red trust as the source of the problem is with the lenders.

mate, it will be finished as soon as the loan is paid off. I hope @pandukelana's relatives (trustee) can pay it off this week.

Hopefully, we will continue to monitor the progress of this issue. Hopefully @roycilik will immediately provide the latest information after the money is transferred by his relatives.

[DudeAtWork420]

If the OP information is correct then i appreciate what he did. It was noble of him that he told one of his relative to repay the loan. Negative tag should not be removed because this will make sure other will not be able to use that accounts on his behalf in the future.

[skarais]

Just to inform that today the loan of @pandukelana seems to have been handed over to roycilik by dewo_sat of Rp. 20,500,000 or the equivalent of 0.064 btc lent. Soon, maybe Roycilik will pay it off to Darkstar_ as a lender. This is something that seems hard to believe because if dewo_sat is not an honest person, then this loan will never be repaid. $1300 is a high value in my country, but it pays off by the users who accept the trust.

On this occasion I would also like to thank dewo_sat who has successfully paid off @pandukelana's loan (your friend/relative), you are one of the most trusted users in my opinion.

And today I've paid to Roycilik with IDR, equal with 0.064 BTC nowday.

FYI: Saya sudah menerima dana sebesar 20.500.000 atau setara sekitar 0.064btc dari om dewo_sat, sayang nya akun beliau belum bisa di recovery (lupa pasword)

Saya akan segera menghubingi darkstar untuk menyelesaikan permasalah hutang piutang Almarhum

Coming back to the main purpose of this thread, maybe I will expect the admin to lock @pandekelana's account if the loan is paid off. So that it can prevent anyone from login into his account for any purpose in the future. Thanks also to all of you who have provided suggestions and some good arguments.

[JollyGood]

I just noticed this thread. I have no recollection of ever interacting with pandukelana2712 but thank you OP for bringing this to the attention of the forum members.

If the news is as accurate as being reported, I have to offer my condolences to his family, friends and loved ones as well as to the forum members who knew him. Any news related to any death of a community member is a sad event, I wish the best for his family.

Sad news shrouded the local board Bahasa Indonesian where one of our contributors was is known to have died of an illness several years ago and we only found out about the news now.

~snip~

Username: pandukelana2712
Reason: Died

[roycilik]

I've sent BTC (0.064BTC) to Darkstar
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q59ygm8y9pzguvclskf5zt3gma7rckauaqef7qx

To be honest, Darkstar has asked me to give the money to the Pandukelana family, but it is an obligation in our place that the debt must be settled first, also dewo_sat said the same thing. And now it's up to Darkstar what to do with the money.

Thanks to Darkstar (:

[ShowOff]

I've sent BTC (0.064BTC) to Drarkstar
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q59ygm8y9pzguvclskf5zt3gma7rckauaqef7qx

It must have been good and now it's paid off.

By the way, there are some negative tag on pandukelana2712's account due to loan defaults "at least still with 3 different users including Darkstar_,crwth, and DroomieChikito". Since you've helped pay off the loan, I hope some of these users will revise their tag because pandukelana2712 has no longer alive.

And roycilik, thank you for being a good and trusted escrow in our local forum. pandukelana2712 is a contributor to the local board, he deserves a good reputation even though so far he really didn't mean to default on the loan. I hope he is happy with our kind prayers.

[dewo_sat]

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BTC sudah saya kirim ke address Darkstar: bc1q59ygm8y9pzguvclskf5zt3gma7rckauaqef7qx
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q59ygm8y9pzguvclskf5zt3gma7rckauaqef7qx

https://i.ibb.co/SNXy6xy/Screenshot-20221105-025625.png

I confirm that I have received repayment - thank you very much dewo_sat for coming forward with this, and going above and beyond what was required of you. Also, thank you roycilik for helping arrange the repayment logistically.

I'm very saddened to hear about the death of pandukelana2712, and I respect that he remained honest until the very end. May he rest in peace.

The great thanks for @roycilik and Mr. @DarkStar_ for help me out about the debt responsibility of pandukelana.

I sincerely apologize, because I did not complete the task immediately.
It happened because I do not have the ability like pandukelana2712 to enter this forum and communicate with you.

A few years have passed, and a few weeks ago in the group there was a talk about his 1000 day ceremony, I just remembered that he owes someone here, while the money a few years ago was with me.
Then I've tried several times to create a new account (he ever created an account for me, but I can't remember that account anymore), unfortunately I can't post anything or send messages.

When I was able to get into the forum, I tried to find someone that pandukelana talked about a lot in the past (roy, husna and joni), and then it happened like what you saw in these few days.

Many thanks to the others for support me here.

[Renampun]

I've sent BTC (0.064BTC) to Darkstar
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q59ygm8y9pzguvclskf5zt3gma7rckauaqef7qx

To be honest, Darkstar has asked me to give the money to the Pandukelana family, but it is an obligation in our place that the debt must be settled first, also dewo_sat said the same thing. And now it's up to Darkstar what to do with the money.

Thanks to Darkstar (:

I really didn't expect @darkstar to do such a noble thing, many lessons I can take from @darkstar, he prioritizes honesty, and virtue over money.



Congratulations pandukelana2712, you managed to become a legendary.

[crwth]

I was surprised that he left this world already, RIP. I know that I had some conversations with him in the forum and saw some of his posts as well. I didn't know at that time when I left negative feedback back then but I removed it now knowing the current situation. Anyway, I know that he is in a better place now.

[suzanne5223]

[snip]Anyway, I know that he is in a better place now.

People like him will always be in a better place because he strives to pay the loan he owes DarkStar before he died. To be honest, only someone who's pure of heart and also has a big heart can do this because he cares about the feeling of others.
It is nice to also see that the people he entrusted the fund with also make the right decision by maintaining his reputation.

[Falconer]

It is nice to also see that the people he entrusted the fund with also make the right decision by maintaining his reputation.

In the view of religion, a person who gets mandate is obliged to pay it off so that he is completely detached from all the things that are mandated. I see this kind of honest attitude supported by religious side of the user that he actually paid that amount of money even if no one on this forum ever knew that pandukelana2712 had given him the money. I believe dewo_sat because of his honesty, he deserves good reputation.

Now I wish dewo_sat all the best, he could probably learn a lot in this forum and stay longer. Thank you dewo_sat, roycilik and skarais for this thread. I've seen the reputation of pandukelana2712 has returned to the best.