Faucet and Bonus Farming

[nullama]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

[dunfida]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

If there are people who do able to make those abuse or exploits then it do pertain means that there's some lapses into their security which there's no other to be blamed but themselves.

When you do run off some bonuses or faucet amounts then it would really be just common sense that you would really be that be assuring that there would be no people would able
to bypass security system or making things to look right or on systematic way.

[nullama]

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If there are people who do able to make those abuse or exploits then it do pertain means that there's some lapses into their security which there's no other to be blamed but themselves.

When you do run off some bonuses or faucet amounts then it would really be just common sense that you would really be that be assuring that there would be no people would able
to bypass security system or making things to look right or on systematic way.

It might be possible for example to create multiple accounts, and similar things, which most users won't be doing.

They might be able to stop that, but probably that will also come with a more difficult usage for normal users, so maybe they don't want that tradeoff.

Things are more complicated than what it looks like from the outside.

[fortunecrypto]

100 claims hourly for sure will be consider an abuse under any site, i don't like the fact that they doesn't set the limits on the TOS, they should mention those limits somewhere, and the fact that you had to make a deposit to be able to withdraw was not cool at all, but a lot of casinos works that way nowadays, some of them offers free money and then ask for a depo, and for me that doesn't feel like free at all.

They should set a limit in the first place the user will think it's ok to claim continuously because there is no rule or notification laid out by the casino on the limit of claim, the players who are serious in playing in a particular casino will check all terms and rules and will abide by it

The mistake of that casino was the time between each claim, if they set the time to 1 claim each hour, that would keep the people on the site and avoid the abuse.

That's the right thing to do all the other faucets I used to claim and actively claim have timers on them like on Betfury where you have to wait 5 minutes to ten minutes for the next claim faucet and bonuses are subject to abuse, casinos should laid out a system where the users cannot go overboard or abuse it, some gamblers are greedy and forget the rules when the casino is not limiting each claim.

[nakamura12]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

I don't think you are cheating or abusing their faucet since you use it to bet. What I mostly noticed in casinos is that claiming faucets in their casinos have limits and time you have to wait before you can claim again. I don't think that just because you have claimed faucets until you have claimed all free sats you can claim within a week doesn't mean you are a cheater unless you created more than one account to claim faucets for a chance to win huge amount of money then withdraw after completing the requirements they ask before you can withdraw the funds.

[Nrcewker]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Faucet isn’t any sort of free money to be honest. A gambling site has faucet in order for their players to test the game without actually depositing the money. But there are some people, who never deposits and starts to farm the faucet. This is actually against the rules. And if a user is found doing this, then his account should be definitely blocked. Moreover a casino should also ensure that he only block that amount of money that the user has farmed, and if it is blocking an account, then they should return the original deposit account and forbid the gambler from playing more on the site. This is my thought on this.

[Fundamentals Of]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

I think the casinos have made clear rules about what is and what is not so that if a gambler tries to break the rules, the casino can penalize them.
And in awarding faucets or bonuses to their members, the casino hopes each member can use them fairly and not try to earn more by cheating.
But as you say, there are casino features that can be inadvertently abused and some members know about it and try to use it to their advantage.
And before that happens, maybe the casino needs to make sure that there are no vulnerabilities on their site and always do regular checks.

That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

[traderethereum]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

I think the casinos have made clear rules about what is and what is not so that if a gambler tries to break the rules, the casino can penalize them.
And in awarding faucets or bonuses to their members, the casino hopes each member can use them fairly and not try to earn more by cheating.
But as you say, there are casino features that can be inadvertently abused and some members know about it and try to use it to their advantage.
And before that happens, maybe the casino needs to make sure that there are no vulnerabilities on their site and always do regular checks.

That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

[Fundamentals Of]

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That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

This is just my guess but I think many casinos are sort of rushing in providing their potential users attractive features like bonuses and faucets. They're probably thinking of the competition more than anything else. They know that they have to step up because they are up against popular platforms. They know that they have to give something better to steal users away from other casinos. As a result they end up forgetting that they also need to put up a sort of defense mechanism against these very same users. They indeed ended up attracting users but many of these users are only attracted by the loopholes in their system. Their strategies backfired.

[Solosanz]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

[Reid]

The casino is wrong obviously if they are preventing a withdrawal from a person who made their money from visiting their site and claiming it every day.
First, that's traffic for them which means it is good for their business if more people are coming in even without deposits.
It's like they are just paying for that, and faucets given are not that high anymore, it will take months or years before they even reach the minimum withdrawal.
They could stop this by simply enabling faucets for those who have zero balance.

[TheGreatPython]

I am not in a casino nor do I register to playing the faucets, they do not interest me.

 They are an old retrograde system that has to disappear or evolve as a royalty system, they also create false traffic to certain casinos, in fact a user who goes to a casino by faucet alone ends up being a "bot" of the casino.

 There are the ToC, ir easy simply read them and stick to them.

Casino is for having fun and trying our luck to win a profit. It wasn't built for faucets. If we don't have the money or we don't want to gamble but we want to try faucets then we need to go on a real faucet sites. There are lots of them and they are less strict.

Faucets are put by a casino for some reasons like players can use it to test the games but there are still some players who use their faucet claims as their main capital and they don't deposit anymore. This is wrong and against the rules. When it comes to traffic. Casino likes it if they have more traffic and maybe the faucet is one of their asset to attract people to come on them. Bots cant abuse it because there are captchas.

[Bitinity]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

[TopTort777]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

100 claims hourly for sure will be consider an abuse under any site, i don't like the fact that they doesn't set the limits on the TOS, they should mention those limits somewhere, and the fact that you had to make a deposit to be able to withdraw was not cool at all, but a lot of casinos works that way nowadays, some of them offers free money and then ask for a depo, and for me that doesn't feel like free at all.

The mistake of that casino was the time between each claim, if they set the time to 1 claim each hour, that would keep the people on the site and avoid the abuse.

Sorry, I have missed the word "sat". I was claiming 100 sat hourly. Every hour I open their site, claim 100 sat and close it. Every 3 hours I made a random bet with 1.5 odd and claim my 100 sat. I've done  that for few week during working hours. So I had like 3 of that 3h circles. For casino - I was a useless client for them. From my point of view - everything I did was allowed. Then they start to pause my by those "you have claimed enough" messages. From my point of view - they were cheating, as I wasnt mentioned anywhere how much I can claim. As well as, if I was entering their site and lose every hour 100 sat, they wont stop me from doing it. They wont show me a message "dude, you have lost enough already, go get some rest".

[Jating]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

And I think that's what the casino is doing now, there are no more faucet claiming unlike before wherein in every hour you can claim and then play, and for some, they created multiple accounts and abuse it.

So casino's now are very clever and it we can find one, for sure they have place some safety nets so that no one can take advantage and abuse their system. Casino's need to be one step of the game hear.

[traderethereum]

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If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

This is just my guess but I think many casinos are sort of rushing in providing their potential users attractive features like bonuses and faucets. They're probably thinking of the competition more than anything else. They know that they have to step up because they are up against popular platforms. They know that they have to give something better to steal users away from other casinos. As a result they end up forgetting that they also need to put up a sort of defense mechanism against these very same users. They indeed ended up attracting users but many of these users are only attracted by the loopholes in their system. Their strategies backfired.

Maybe it's because they want to launch the casino soon and get a lot of members that they provide features that they may not have checked for vulnerabilities.
But over time, they can see if the feature will be useful for its members or can be misused for the benefit of the members.
If they want to become a reputable casino, they must do many things to ensure everything in their casino is working properly.
And they also have to monitor and look for loopholes that are vulnerable to abuse and close them or even eliminate features that their members can abuse.

[AicecreaME]

If you read the terms of service of a gambling website, you'll  see that it is almost always stated that they strictly prohibit any kind of activity that is abusive to protect the balance and fairness in the platform. Anything that they will see as unusual and is abusive in nature will receive necessary punishment to avoid further exploitation of the site. Since faucet and bonus farming is considered to be an abuse, it shouldn't be done in any platform if you want to be able to use your account peacefully. Because if you persist to do so and they caught your account violating their TOS, they might actually suspend it or even permanently ban it so you won't be able to withdraw the funds.

Creating multiple accounts became rampant because of promotions such as bonuses which players utilize to their advantage. It's strictly not allowed, but these people get confident because most of them aren't getting caught yet. Hence. the security must be tightened to ensure there will be no more abusive activities be done. Both the casino and the players who do it are at fault. No matter how bad it is though, we can't really impose our morals and values to others. So the best resolution here would be stricter security measures and detection which is on the end of the gambling site. After all, the casino must check from time to time the features they are vulnerable with so they won't suffer losses and to uphold their reputation as well.

[madnessteat]

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Personally, I think that the casinos should be more clear about what exactly is included in the prohibited activities that are offensive, and limit the use of cranes at the software level.

We all know that machines as well as people make mistakes, so we can't exclude the situation when an account gets banned if its owner didn't violate any rules and didn't abuse the platform. Casinos have to be more loyal to their users and treat their complaints and requests more carefully.

[wxa7115]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

There was a time in which most casinos had faucets and they accepted that some of their users did not deposited any money and simply used the money they got from faucets to gamble, as they were expecting for those people to eventually make a deposit with them.

But times have changed, and now it is rare to see casinos offering faucets as they know they will open a can of worms if they do so, as some users may try to abuse the faucet and claim from it with multiple accounts.

[Strongkored]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.