Faucet and Bonus Farming

[seoincorporation]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

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[KennyR]

Here the gambling site should correct themselves than just stopping the withdrawal of the users who were able to claim bonus/faucets. This is wrong and it shouldn't be done. It is very rare to see similar incidents taking place with Casinos. These kind of errors mostly happen with Exchanges.

When a casino stops the withdrawal of an user, it should have the proper reason. These days the power of centralized system can be seen on gambling sites when a person experience big wins in a series and goes for withdrawal.

[decodx]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Most casinos have some form of "fair use" clause in their terms of service. This means that if a casino believes a player is abusing their platform, they reserve the right to block or suspend any accounts. These clauses are often vague, so it's hard to know exactly what constitutes as "fair use", but faucet and bonus farming are two forms of abuse that are fairly common and clearly against the rules. While there's nothing wrong with playing the casino games for free, some people will go to great lengths to get as much money out of it as possible. This can include setting up multiple accounts and using them simultaneously, or opening new accounts every time they're blocked so that they can continue farming without having to wait for a cooldown period. Casinos are aware of these tactics, so they often employ algorithms that detect suspicious activity and suspend or ban players who abuse their platform. So it's important to know what qualifies as fair use before you start using a casino's services.

[Yogee]

....if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

It would be nice if you could site an example of this user before we argue if he's really smart enough and operating within the casino rules. I've seen cases where users create different accounts so they could abuse the faucet. They cry or complain about it when they get caught by the casino's anti-fraud system.

[robelneo]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

Casinos should not punish their players if there are no violations, they are the one that puts up a faucet and bonuses that can be exploited, if the player is unaware of the violation or he is following the rules of claiming those rewards and bonuses he shouldn't be punished they should just take out these faucets and bonuses but don't touch the player's account, its the casino's fault for not testing their faucets and bonuses

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make a profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

I'll give that casino a bad rating and it will have bad feedback from the community, this is what annoys players they are being punished for actions that are not their fault but the casino system's inefficiency.

[Baofeng]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

And I think one rule of the game is not for gamblers to abuse or exploit their system like claiming tons of faucets or bonus abuse. Just like in landbase casino's, you might be smarter in the beginning, but as soon as the casino's notice something is odd, then for sure you will be flag by the pitboss.

So it goes down as to the question of morality, it is wrong to take advantage of casinos?

Maybe the answer depends on the individual itself, whether to continue abusing until they are caught or report the bugs to the casino.

[bittraffic]

You're not supposed to outsmart casinos.   Its a gray area for what users are supposed to do because these bonuses are just for promotion.

Although casinos may have faults in this situation, it's a kind of abuse when it's called Farming. It's why they are going to notice the users who do farming from faucets and bonuses because it's not normal to get a big amount from it.

[Kemarit]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Yes, they are the one setting the rules so at any time that can also change it whatever they want, specially if they see someone or groups of people have been 'abusing' them faucet. The keyword is abuse, and so we all know what that it means it's improper so it will be dealt with.

There are no such thing as smart players, if this is the case then everyone can brought the house down. Casinos are design not to be outsmart by anyone.

[adzino]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

First thing is that all players should read the terms of services of the casino before using the casino or making any deposit.

You wanted a solution to people abusing a casino? The solution can also be found on the terms of services. I am sure it clearly states that if they farm or abuse the faucet their accounts will get blocked or the funds confiscated. So blocking is the solution for the casino. And yes, the user is in fault for not reading the terms and then breaking the terms. Just because they are allowed to claim "tons of faucet" doesn't mean they are allowed to break the rules. Don't like their rules, go play in another casino. The bonus and faucet rewards are mainly for rewarding regular players, not farmers.

[aioc]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

Why not name these two casinos so the community will be warned about claiming on their faucets and bonuses

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

If they lose money it's because of their action and negligence and those accounts that lock their accounts should file a formal complaint because they are innocent and its not their fault that the casino suffers losses

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make a profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

It's cheating they don't want to give their players what they deserve, they are the ones who created this without testing, in fact, they should thank these players because of the actions they can patch or correct their mistakes

[Warkop]

So it goes down as to the question of morality, it is wrong to take advantage of casinos?

Obviously that shouldn't be done, if their system has rules in ownership or creates multiple accounts, then obviously it will be a problem for those users...

Maybe the answer depends on the individual itself, whether to continue abusing until they are caught or report the bugs to the casino.

If the Bug problem is in the weakness of the gambling site, Abusing Bugs, it all depends on the user, whether they have malicious intentions or otherwise notify the site, in order to get rewards from the site or drain the faucet that is served on the gambling site...

Because we won't be able to guess someone's intentions in making money, what's more, the crisis that is being felt by all countries, plus inflation makes the economy decline, which allows someone to commit evil intentions...

[ethereumhunter]

Before deciding whether it's the user's fault, both parties need to be honest about the fault of each so that they can find out who is at fault in this matter.

And if the fault is from the casino, the casino should fix its code to avoid this problem and not blame the user for trying to use the bug in their casino. But users should also be able to explain to the casino that there is a bug on their site and suggest checking the code so it doesn't happen again.

But if it's not a bug but rather about how a user can profit from the casino, the casino shouldn't blame the user for the offense because the user may know how to profit from the casino.

But each of the casinos and users will surely say that they did nothing wrong and if the casino blocks the user's account, it is because the casino has the power to do so.

[Strongkored]

It shouldn't be like that, but because casinos can only detect cheating through indicators, so many odd things happen casino will considering as cheating.
If there is a way for players to be able to prove that they are honest it's good but that doesn't exist, only KYC is the only way and even this is  often not liked by players.
But it is undeniable that those who are blocked are really cheating players and for me it is natural that the funds cannot be withdrawn because it is the same as stealing money.
The smart way that players say does not really describe it as a smart way that's just to justify his cheating ways.

[Awaklara]

I'm not sure if the problem is the players who managed to claim a lot of the faucets and bonuses. if that's the case, I'm sure the casino isn't in a good reputation.

I think there is account abuse at the casino. so players can get more from the faucet and a bigger percentage get a bonus. That's what caused the account to be banned from the casino.
casinos that make faucets or bonus events, of course, have prepared a system to check how there may be fraudulent actions from players.

[TopTort777]

I've been claiming BetFury faucet (free boxes) perhaps for nearly a year. I've been participating in their FunFury competition (sort of a competition for free money). I've been claiming their wheel bonus daily. I am a total bonus hunter there. Probably a "negative" gambler, because I only collect and barely gamble or lose. So far havent been banned But I would be angry if I would. I would mark the casino as scam, because it wasnt written anywhere, that it is not allowed only to collect and not lose.

[Kakmakr]

The casinos are not blocking normal accounts that are not misusing the faucets or the bonuses... they are blocking accounts of people that are using Bots or multiple accounts to farm those faucets or bonuses.

The main goal for casinos to offer these faucets or bonuses ...are to help people that does not have money to try out their services as an introduction tool... not for people to farm it and to make free profits.  

[swogerino]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think the same,if a casino offers the faucet and the gambler keeps claiming it it is not the user fault.I know one casino which I forgot the name which had the faucet and you could not claim more if you didn't finish the first amount of your claim,that was just to keep users satisfied as with the amount of faucets you can't really win something substantial.I think that the casinos should either remove the option if they see tons of abuse or optimize it to stop such abuse but in no way they have the right to steal users fund for this action.It would be better for them to bring the feature offline and let the casino run without it.

[davis196]

I've been claiming BetFury faucet (free boxes) perhaps for nearly a year. I've been participating in their FunFury competition (sort of a competition for free money). I've been claiming their wheel bonus daily. I am a total bonus hunter there. Probably a "negative" gambler, because I only collect and barely gamble or lose. So far havent been banned But I would be angry if I would. I would mark the casino as scam, because it wasnt written anywhere, that it is not allowed only to collect and not lose.

I don't think that your activities on Betfury count as bonus farming or abusing the Betfury system. You are simply using the casino faucet, which isn't against the rules. If you had 100 Betfury accounts and you were using them simultaneously, this would have been recognized as a violation of the Terms of Service of Betfury.
Bonus farming is Ok, if the gamblers are using multiple different online casinos and their bonus offers. Trying to exploit the bonus system of one casino is definitely a violation of the Terms of Service and the user must be banned.

[FatFork]

I always say that you should use your own judgement when deciding about accepting bonuses in different kind of casino sites. The final decision is yours, but I think that you will agree with me if I tell you that it is a good practice to read the terms and conditions of every deal you will be participating.

You can't expect a casino to give you a bonus without expecting anything in return. It's just like when a company gives you an incentive to buy their product, they have something to gain from it as well.  So if you think that the bonus is too good to be true then it probably is. And as we all know, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

[Solosanz]

Gamble with faucet or bonus money and then withdraw the winning amount is already not allowed for the sites, how it's possible a casino allow gambler to withdraw all of their faucet claiming without gamble it? Always remember casino isn't a charity which mean they're not giving you money for free. Gambling with faucet is no risk since you're not losing anything and contribute anything to the casino, except there's a rules if the casino allow it.

In general, faucet is just like a testnet which you're using for test the casino only.

[xSkylarx]

The casinos are not blocking normal accounts that are not misusing the faucets or the bonuses... they are blocking accounts of people that are using Bots or multiple accounts to farm those faucets or bonuses.

Gambling websites are strict when they provide some faucets or bonuses for free for their users. They will keep track of their users' ip addresses to see if they are using multi accounts to abuse their system. I've been using my one and only account on freebitco.in many years now and it's still alive even though I never deposit any amount and just use the satoshis coming from faucets to bet on their hi-lo game.

[Wexnident]

I think in said scenarios then it's the casino's fault? That is if they weren't using bots. Afaik they should have some rules that do not allow the usage of bots for farming faucets and bonuses, just like in any other type of scenario where free stuff is given. Smarter way or not, bots are just not allowed in general. Heck, I'd also consider taking advantage of bugs as not being allowed, but those cases are rare anw imo. But other than that, they should be allowed to maximize the faucet and bonuses given since well, the casino themselves allowed it.

[coolcoinz]

IMO attacks that target site vulnerabilities are a site owner's fault, so even if the faucets were claimed with the use of some glitch that allowed the person to log out of the site and be able to claim the faucet again, it's still a site's fault and user should not punished.

The only situation when it's a user's fault is when he's deliberately cheating the site by multi accounting when the site doesn't allow it. If the user claims multiple bonuses on one account and the site allows for it to happen, the money should be his to keep.

[piebeyb]

I think as long as it doesn't violate the rules set by the casino site, I think it's legal, but if the casino site closes the account without a reasonable reason, of course it's a problem, it all depends on the rules made by the casino site itself, anyone can use the faucet or the bonus if it has been provided and of course the casino must not violate its own rules and prohibit withdrawals from users as long as it meets the requirements

[Yaunfitda]

I think as long as it doesn't violate the rules set by the casino site, I think it's legal, but if the casino site closes the account without a reasonable reason, of course it's a problem, it all depends on the rules made by the casino site itself, anyone can use the faucet or the bonus if it has been provided and of course the casino must not violate its own rules and prohibit withdrawals from users as long as it meets the requirements

They have every right to close an account that they deemed abusing their faucets or like doing bonus farming, like creating a lot of accounts, anything that will abuse the casinos.

So there is no gray area here, the individual might find success early and if he can withdraw it, then good. But if the casino later found out what you have done, they will immediately lock and close your account and maybe you can ask for the reasons, but I doubt that the casino will give you the exact justification.

[skarais]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Usually casinos do not allow attempts to exploit bugs or flaws even if they are not harmful to the casino itself. I don't know if this is a violation of certain casinos or not, but I think it can be detrimental to the casino so they can consider it suspicious activity.

It could be argued that it was a mistake on the casino's part, but it's good that the player should notify the casino instead of sucking up all the available bonuses or faucets so that it will be fair to other users.

[Yatsan]

I think casinos would simply not allow their business to lose in any way. House always win right? Faucets and bonuses are simply for promotional purposes . They might seem to be losing in a way that they are giving it for free but that's how promotion works. They are paying people to make them pay afterwards once these people who recieved free money, become interested with what they are 'selling' or offering to the audiences. Maybe not visible to consumers' perspectives but there are gains by doing so. They won't do it if they will earn nothing from doing so, as simple as that.

[piebeyb]

I think as long as it doesn't violate the rules set by the casino site, I think it's legal, but if the casino site closes the account without a reasonable reason, of course it's a problem, it all depends on the rules made by the casino site itself, anyone can use the faucet or the bonus if it has been provided and of course the casino must not violate its own rules and prohibit withdrawals from users as long as it meets the requirements

They have every right to close an account that they deemed abusing their faucets or like doing bonus farming, like creating a lot of accounts, anything that will abuse the casinos.

So there is no gray area here, the individual might find success early and if he can withdraw it, then good. But if the casino later found out what you have done, they will immediately lock and close your account and maybe you can ask for the reasons, but I doubt that the casino will give you the exact justification.

yes that's what every user must understand before playing read the rules of the casino site before making a fatal mistake, it's also important not to waste time playing and finally not being able to withdraw money from a deposit or from winnings for violating the rules

[virasisog]

This often happens in small and new casino sites. They lose over the players because of the bonuses and promotions that they offer but that shouldn't be blamed on the player. They should put control on it instead of punishing the players because players are just grabbing the chances of earning that they offer. If they can't deal with it then they should stop running bonuses that will make players suffer than make a profit in the end.

[panjul07]

Every bonus/faucet has its own terms and conditions, if players break those terms then it is an abuse and the casino has the right to block the players.
Players who find a way to make profit from the bonus/faucet cant be blocked unless the way they use is breaking the rules.
Talking about who is wrong in case players can claim tons of faucet, I'd say both side are wrong.
The casino's fault is about how can they let users to claim tons of faucet, it should be limited.
Player's fault is that if they play solely from the faucet until they can make a withdrawal request without any intention to make deposit.

[Cling18]

If the casino is having losses due to their player's winnings then they should put limitations or even stop their promotion. Banning or punishing their players will affect their reputation and trust rate. If they want to keep their players, they should value them especially if they are not violating any rules. We can't blame players who are farming bonuses because it's already an open chance to have free play.

[seoincorporation]

And I think one rule of the game is not for gamblers to abuse or exploit their system like claiming tons of faucets or bonus abuse. Just like in landbase casino's, you might be smarter in the beginning, but as soon as the casino's notice something is odd, then for sure you will be flag by the pitboss.

You're not supposed to outsmart casinos.   Its a gray area for what users are supposed to do because these bonuses are just for promotion.

Here the thing is... The casino can set the limits on the code.

If user get a bonus & UserBonus < 10
then UserBonus+1

It's easy on the code to set the limits and if the user don't know those limits how will he know he is doing something bad.

Why not name these two casinos so the community will be warned about claiming on their faucets and bonuses

One is wintomato and the other one is winz...

Evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384260.msg59919331#msg59919331
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.msg60237250#msg60237250

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

For me, I think a casino can only block a user if such person have been found to abuse a bonus or promotion, because it's natural that people loves free money, and many if presented with an opportunity could go an extra mile just to maximize earnings, which is what i have come to notice about majorty of casinos who runs a free faucet. Because in a scenario whereby a user create 10 multiple accounts just for the purpose of claiming daily faucet with the same I.P address, and one day finally caught and all 10 connected accounts blocked. Who is to blame? The user or the casino..

[uneng]

I wasn't aware about these cases where casinos punished users for farming the faucet, but if it's a concern of casinos they shouldn't allow gamblers to claim from faucet in case their balance is superior to, let's say, 100 satoshis or shouldn't even let them claim from the faucet if they have at least 1 satoshi on their balance.
This way it's not possible for gamblers to farm free money from casinos' faucets in a regular basis, therefore casinos' managers won't have to create any issues with gamblers regards this matter.

[Slow death]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

if the casino in their TOS says that if they find out that someone is abusing the bonus or faucet they will have their account blocked then the casino is right to block the account of someone who is abusing the bonus or faucet, but if a person is abusing the bonus it is from the faucet but in the casino there is nothing in the TOS that allows that person's account to be blocked so the casino cannot block the person's account, maybe they can put another measure of punishment and also the casino needs to take measures so that the person's account is not abused bonus and faucet

If the casino is having losses due to their player's winnings then they should put limitations or even stop their promotion. Banning or punishing their players will affect their reputation and trust rate. If they want to keep their players, they should value them especially if they are not violating any rules. We can't blame players who are farming bonuses because it's already an open chance to have free play.

the point is that the faucet and bonus people don't make much profit to the casino so it's easier for the casino to block their account, but in the case of high rollers who are people who don't make faucet and are more concerned with winning and making a profit the casino will always give special treatment to these people, faucet can be a detriment to the casino

Because in a scenario whereby a user create 10 multiple accounts just for the purpose of claiming daily faucet with the same I.P address, and one day finally caught and all 10 connected accounts blocked. Who is to blame? The user or the casino..

Of course the only culprit is the user, the casino put the faucet so that people can collect coins and have the opportunity to test the casino, but people's ambition leads them to cheat and they don't count that when they close the faucet it will harm other people innocents who don't cheat

I wasn't aware about these cases where casinos punished users for farming the faucet, but if it's a concern of casinos they shouldn't allow gamblers to claim from faucet in case their balance is superior to, let's say, 100 satoshis or shouldn't even let them claim from the faucet if they have at least 1 satoshi on their balance.

people create a lot of accounts just to be able to reach the withdrawal limit quickly. I've seen this a lot in the past when I claimed faucets. I saw people with 30+ accounts cheating and posting the trick on youtube

[dothebeats]

It is the right of the casino to block anyone excessively claiming shit for themselves on the bonuses and faucets and not depositing any amount at all. If free rolls is what you want from a casino, stick with a platform that offers it regularly and READ THE TERMS of the bonus before making a complaint about your funds in the event of a win. Most casinos are pretty lax about it, but once bonuses are abused to the point that a user creates a new account to claim it, well that is something that is no longer acceptable and should have their account banned.

[ryzaadit]

They're "CASINO", not a charity site.

Faucet & Bonus is only a promotion method for you to play on their site, but while you taking the advantage by multiple-account for the bonus or faucet. It's already stated on the "FAQ", If you abused the platform they have some right to close your account.

If you disagree, then that's why (READ T&C BEFORE REGISTER).

[goldkingcoiner]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

In this very particular case, if a player finds a way to exploit the code then that is the same as if you found a way to steal money from an atm. So why would anyone allow you to keep that money? Seems unfair/illegal to me.

If you are worried about being treated unfairly you can ponder the following:

First, in order to be sure of whats right or wrong I would probably look at your countries laws regarding this and the laws of the country in which the gambling casino is based. Bad Casinos usually like to base themselves in countries with corruption problems and/or lack of gambling regulations.

That makes it much harder to get your money back (if you are indeed dealing with a bad casino).

In the case of good casinos you should try to work it out with the casino. They surely would not want do anything against the law, (like steal your fair-earned money) as registered, licensed casinos.

[Doell]

Faucets and bonuses for promotion only, but if the user can withdraw it should be a good thing for the user but not for the casino. Every time the faucetor wins, the casino tries to find fault the user. But you are right that casinos should give faucets or bonuses with limits not block accounts, except for those people are accounts farmer.

One is wintomato and the other one is winz...

Evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384260.msg59919331#msg59919331
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.msg60237250#msg60237250

The first case is quite interesting, at least the user can withdraw 6K Doge comfortably. The second case is complicated sir, no comment.

[darkangel11]

The first case is quite interesting, at least the user can withdraw 6K Doge comfortably. The second case is complicated sir, no comment.

The Winz response looks a bit fishy:

Our bonuses are easy to abuse and if we see that the players are using the bonuses to farm funds without any intention to play at Winz.io casino, then these players might be requested to provide the KYC and after that, the access to all future bonuses might also be locked.

So they'll first ask the user for his ID and then block him. If he starts a shit storm at least they'll have his personal info that can be use against him.
They also admit that free-of-wagering bonuses are not really free. They name them this way to attract people but when they claim them them without wagering they get banned.

[nakamura12]

I know that I replied 2 days later to answer your question about casinos locking their users account for this reason I think which is the faucet and bonus farming. I am sure that you do know that casino always win and gamblers mostly lose small or huge amount. Having faucet for their gamblers to claim either per day, per hour (after running out of balance) or 10 times a day (can only be claimed if 0 balance) which we can use to try the site without depositing decent amount first. If someone is taking advantage of this then I am sure that the casino owner wouldn't like it. I do agree with the others that casino is not a charity.

[Kelvinid]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I don't know how a certain user continues receiving bonuses knowing that this is just given only once and mostly during the registration or at your first deposit. Maybe you are talking about creating several accounts just to take advantage of the bonuses and this is also the reason why they got banned. Might not clearly see or read the rules but this is literally against the rules of many casinos. It is not a smart doing, this only means how greedy we are.

[lionheart78]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Those who are banned due to the reason of faucets and bonus farming are often proven to have multiple accounts.  Since the account was found to be exploiting faucets and bonuses, I believe it is right to ban those accounts.  But if ever the account isn't multi-accounting then I think it is unfair to ban the account for that reason.  Since it is a casino offering and the account is just simply taking what is offered and is not exploiting it through multi-account banning the account is unethical.  The casino can just give wagering requirements if they don't want their bonuses to be claimed easily.  

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I don't know how a certain user continues receiving bonuses knowing that this is just given only once and mostly during the registration or at your first deposit. Maybe you are talking about creating several accounts just to take advantage of the bonuses and this is also the reason why they got banned. Might not clearly see or read the rules but this is literally against the rules of many casinos. It is not a smart doing, this only means how greedy we are.

It is a clear exploit and is bannable.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

The above is how it should really be, but reality said No.
The first question should be, does the casino believe there are users smarter than them?, I think they don't, and this is the reason why at the sight of an unsual or uncommon kind of winning, they readily get suspicious.

Concerning faucet and bonus,  I think that their way or mechanism they put in place to make new users test out the casino, atleast until the new user settles in and start depositing and gambling on the casino, but when they see an old user using this feature, it appears to them the user is abusing the system, and this is why they sometimes block accounts that are found of abusing the faucet and bonus system.

[Saisher]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casino is guilty of scamming its players if that is the case, you never lock the accounts of your users because of the rule you laid out unless he is guilty of multi-accounting and following your rules but if they are claiming faucets based on the rules you laid out then the casino will have a bad reputation of creating a trap for their players

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

They should have tested and checked all the projected faucet rewards their players can claim the only way their players can abuse the faucet and bonus is through multi accounts but if they don't have other accounts and play by the rule you laid out then the casinos are at fault here, better mention these casinos so we can look.

[wxa7115]

The above is how it should really be, but reality said No.
The first question should be, does the casino believe there are users smarter than them?, I think they don't, and this is the reason why at the sight of an unsual or uncommon kind of winning, they readily get suspicious.

Concerning faucet and bonus,  I think that their way or mechanism they put in place to make new users test out the casino, atleast until the new user settles in and start depositing and gambling on the casino, but when they see an old user using this feature, it appears to them the user is abusing the system, and this is why they sometimes block accounts that are found of abusing the faucet and bonus system.

We will need a more specific example to know who is right, because it is obvious casinos are not going to like their customers to abuse the bonuses they give and if this is specified on their terms of service and people accepted those terms when they registered then the casino is on the right regardless of how clever they are in getting those bonuses.

But if this is not specified as something which is punishable by them then they need to pay the player as it was not his fault they overlooked a possibility in which their own rules could be used against them.

[Mahanton]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Its unethical that they would really be blocking users account just because they had won big amount using up those bonuses but it is really that depending on how they do set up terms and the code
which should really be fair and square.There are people who are really just lucky when it comes to play and as long the odds and chance are slim but we know that there's always a possibility.
A fair and reputable site wont really be risking out their reputation just because they had just blocked into those bonus or faucet earners.They should be fair when it comes to that.
They given out those faucet then everything includes winning amounts should really be released without questions asked.

[nakamura12]

Those who are banned due to the reason of faucets and bonus farming are often proven to have multiple accounts.  Since the account was found to be exploiting faucets and bonuses, I believe it is right to ban those accounts.  But if ever the account isn't multi-accounting then I think it is unfair to ban the account for that reason.  Since it is a casino offering and the account is just simply taking what is offered and is not exploiting it through multi-account banning the account is unethical.  The casino can just give wagering requirements if they don't want their bonuses to be claimed easily.  

That's the problem of gambling in an online casino even though you didn't have multiple accounts and yet you are banned because of having multiple accounts when you only have one account to start with. This is the disadvantage of being online where people can create many accounts to be able to avail with eh bonuses and faucet. I am sure there are ways to not make it look like abusing bonuses and faucet by creating account using different network and devices per account and also different for each of the account (that also includes time created) if there's no KYC needed to create an account and also when you gamble.

[Peanutswar]

Some of the gambling casinos preventing this kind of abusing their faucet or bonus by having a cancel of withdrawals or holding their funds because they see this kind of thing as a suspicious matter and can be abused by another player too in that thing they make a KYC verification for the users so they cant create another account even though they can abuse the creating and the bonus still they cant withdraw because the management ask again for the KYC verification and detecting a two owner of an account can be lock or hold their funds.

[ethereumhunter]

Those who are banned due to the reason of faucets and bonus farming are often proven to have multiple accounts.  Since the account was found to be exploiting faucets and bonuses, I believe it is right to ban those accounts.  But if ever the account isn't multi-accounting then I think it is unfair to ban the account for that reason.  Since it is a casino offering and the account is just simply taking what is offered and is not exploiting it through multi-account banning the account is unethical.  The casino can just give wagering requirements if they don't want their bonuses to be claimed easily.  

That's the problem of gambling in an online casino even though you didn't have multiple accounts and yet you are banned because of having multiple accounts when you only have one account to start with. This is the disadvantage of being online where people can create many accounts to be able to avail with eh bonuses and faucet. I am sure there are ways to not make it look like abusing bonuses and faucet by creating account using different network and devices per account and also different for each of the account (that also includes time created) if there's no KYC needed to create an account and also when you gamble.

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

[molsewid]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

That is really a problem if someone has multiple accounts, we all know that it is prohibited because owners knew that soon those promos, giveaways and other things can be spammed by someone who has a multiple accounts, it would be unfair to everyone if they will abuse faucets and also the casino has the right to hold their account if they caught something wrong.

[Boristhecat]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

The problem is that in almost all ToSs it is either directly written that promotions cannot be abused (plus this is always mentioned in the description of the promotion) or there is a clause that says that "in case of any disputable situation, the casino has the decisive word and it is final."
But in general, this is an interesting theoretical question, because if, for example, in some game a player reveals the ability to beat the casino, then this is the responsibility of the casino and such excuses do not work here. However, it is obvious that this can only be proved in court, since no casino admits its wrongfulness/responsibility in case of loss of money.

[Mame89]

I'm not sure if the problem is the players who managed to claim a lot of the faucets and bonuses. if that's the case, I'm sure the casino isn't in a good reputation.

I think there is account abuse at the casino. so players can get more from the faucet and a bigger percentage get a bonus. That's what caused the account to be banned from the casino.
casinos that make faucets or bonus events, of course, have prepared a system to check how there may be fraudulent actions from players.

agree with you, if the casino owner has an option about faucets, there is a minimum of a day that you get or a maximum of faucets that you get per account. this can reduce the cheating of players who get faucets with multiple accounts. indeed faucets are good for promotion or to attract players, on the other hand there must be a change in the rules of course. the hunters will continue to flow and less serious problems occur, resulting in reputation

[jossiel]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I agree, they should be the one to find at fault when a user tries to do it repetitively as seen in their system. As long as it is clean and there's no abuse that's being done, they should allow that since they're the one giving faucets and making bonuses.

If they don't like the outcome of it, they should just give notice that the user shouldn't be eligible anymore for any of those features. And as they give that notice, they should give the reason and it should be justifiable.

[ralle14]

So, what do you think about this?

The easiest way for casinos would be to block their players but it does leave a bad experience for their players which could hurt their reputation a bit. The other way for them to handle this would be to take their temporary losses since they'll still come out on top anyway and slowly tweak the rules in their favor if they still think the players are getting too much profit from the bonuses. I'd side with the users since you can't blame the people for taking the opportunity when it's there and i'd do the same if I see a good bonus.

[virasisog]

Bonus and faucet are just one of the few features most online casinos have. I believe if the casino had set it this way, they should've created a countermeasure for players to abuse this and for the casinos to lose money for those who are just staying in the casino to farm free money. If they had implemented the bonus and faucet without checking the possibilities of how players can abuse it, it is the casino's fault, not the players'. Some casinos offer free spins, faucet claims, the casino can set a code to limit players from abusing it and to avoid them farming money without spending or even using the casino. They can also ban the IP of players who makes multiple accounts.

[ethereumhunter]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

That is really a problem if someone has multiple accounts, we all know that it is prohibited because owners knew that soon those promos, giveaways and other things can be spammed by someone who has a multiple accounts, it would be unfair to everyone if they will abuse faucets and also the casino has the right to hold their account if they caught something wrong.

But I actually wonder how they can find out if someone has multiple accounts and can abuse promos, prizes, and others because of the many members who join them, of course, it won't be easy to find them. But because the casino has the power to conduct investigations on its website by opening a database of member lists and reviewing their activities. It wouldn't be fair if someone could cheat while someone else gambled just for fun and to test their luck.

[noormcs5]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I see this very unethical from the casino end to block the user account if they are claiming faucet and bonus often ? Why do they enable unlimited faucets if they do not want people to claim them. How strange is that casino offer free money in form of bonus and faucets to attract the gamblers but when those gamblers start collect money, they tend to block them.

I know one site that is freebitco where you can claim faucet every hour and they will never block you even if you claim that faucet 24/7.
This is how it should be. Either don't give free money and if you give, don't make cheap moves like licking accounts.

[Poker Player]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

This is the eternal debate. In principle if it is the casino's fault and the user has not broken any rules, it is something that should be fixed without banning him. But there are many other cases where multi-accounting is forbidden, for example, and users keep creating different accounts to abuse. Freebitco.in would be a classic example, which copes well because it is very profitable despite having to do a lot of cleanup.

But I actually wonder how they can find out if someone has multiple accounts and can abuse promos, prizes, and others because of the many members who join them, of course, it won't be easy to find them. But because the casino has the power to conduct investigations on its website by opening a database of member lists and reviewing their activities. It wouldn't be fair if someone could cheat while someone else gambled just for fun and to test their luck.

In some cases it is impossible, but in many others they are so dumb that they leave clues.

[Hispo]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think casinos should avoid to reach the point where they block withdrawals to users, only because they want to take some advantage of the faucets.
It is a matter or letting people using their services that they are not allowed to some certain things, for example, let me know explicitly they cannot withdraw funds obtained 100% from the faucet. In the end, the casino does it because understandingly they need to protect their capital, they are a business after all.

Blocking withdrawals and limiting accounts only hurts the reputation of the casino and the bad reviews and opinions spread fairly quickly.
Clear rules and making sure everyone understand them, so both the user and the casino staff save time and bad reputation.

I personally find bonus farming more serious than faucet farming, but that is just my perception on the issue.

[d3nz]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I see this very unethical from the casino end to block the user account if they are claiming faucet and bonus often ? Why do they enable unlimited faucets if they do not want people to claim them. How strange is that casino offer free money in form of bonus and faucets to attract the gamblers but when those gamblers start collect money, they tend to block them.

I know one site that is freebitco where you can claim faucet every hour and they will never block you even if you claim that faucet 24/7.
This is how it should be. Either don't give free money and if you give, don't make cheap moves like licking accounts.

There is a lot of reason why the casino is blocking people who use faucet since they are thinking they are using some program to bypass the system or manipulate it. The only problem is that even though you are just using the faucet and system may find it suspicious if it's huge money, and the only way is to provide a screenshot and report it to customer service. And we all know gambling sites will review it first which really took a lot of time before can take action on it.

Hopefully, some of the gambling sites take an action quickly for the concern of their players since they are like a gem that makes them still stand.

[Mauser]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I am not familiar with the 2 casinos where it happens and to me it seems more a problem of the casino rather than the gamblers. Faucets or free bonuses are part of many casinos these days. In Poker I have been using free Sit'n'Go tickets for many years now. It's a great tool for the casino to keep the gamblers engaged and help new customers to build up a decent bankroll overtime. The main idea behind these bonuses is that you use them on the casino itself and don't just withdraw them. As far as I know most of the casino don't even allow you to withdraw the money as it's blocked until you bet the amount at least 2-3 times. It's very similar to a deposit bonus which you need to activate over time, it's not that you can instantly withdraw all the money again that the casino gave you as a new customer. So if in this specific case a casino didn't design the bonuses properly and the gambler managed to withdraw the money straight away he should not be banned for that. Rather change the conditions of your promotions so customers can't abuse them anymore.

[gunhell16]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

My only question Sir, how did you know that this double casino has locked users because they have accumulated a lot of faucets that were obtained from the casino itself for free or the users have grown the faucets that they have obtained for free and were able to grow them for can they withdraw it nowadays?

Just now I saw a casino that has faucets on their platform that will suddenly lock the account just because they have accumulated a lot of altcoins via faucets. Literally, the owner of the gambling platform was wrong when they did that, because it would have been better if they had not installed any faucets, or if they had limited the claiming of faucets.

[coin-investor]

One is wintomato and the other one is winz...

Evidence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384260.msg59919331#msg59919331
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.msg60237250#msg60237250

Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated because they have issued these warnings already in their terms of service, I claim on faucets when I have the time but not in any way that will fall to abuse, all casinos watched their members activity and marked those cheaters and abusers.

[babygun]

Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated because they have issued these warnings already in their terms of service, I claim on faucets when I have the time but not in any way that will fall to abuse, all casinos watched their members activity and marked those cheaters and abusers.

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

[dimonstration]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

This is true, I remember that I read casino warning in regards with the use of bonus. They strictly noted that they will not allowed users that only play when they are claiming bonus which is unfair in my opinion because they are the one giving it and not limiting user for this reason. They should set a limitation to there promotion to certain user only so that other user will not use it.

Imo this is a very unfair way of casino to rid players that keeps winning using the bonus and retain only those players that keeps losing.

[crwth]

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

[Jemzx00]

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

These factors should also be given some thought and clarification as there are some casinos that provide higher faucet payout on high wagered accounts.

I remember playing on Primedice and seeing a lot of banned accounts for faucet abuse as there are users that will only claim faucet rewards and not gamble at all. There are even bots created for faucet claiming and you'll be able to see the exact pattern when these abusers claim faucet like every 3 mins. Also, selling of high wagered accounts was being done just for faucet purposes as they can claim more sats.

[jostorres]

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

Not only more than 2 casinos but all of the casinos will not allow such act. I don't think the casino will ban those users if they only follow the rules properly but maybe those users literally abused it like they use a VPN or they create another account using a different IP address in order for them to claim again.

The casino didn't steal the money of those who commit that act but it was them abusers who stole money from the casino. The casinos is only confiscating the money that is for them. Those hackers are smart because they can find a way to abuse the casino but that is something that everyone shouldn't be proud of. They better use that kind of knowledge for good.

[dimonstration]

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

I think he is referring on players that play only with bonuses since casino offers multiple bonus in daily or weekly basis. Some casino offer faucet that replenish every hour. Casino is now monitoring users bonus/faucet activities and track whether they are winning most of the time by using it. This is now punishable by account freeze if casino notice that user is not losing any money and just milking on the casino bonus/faucet.

There are users that only doing it with multiple account and manage to get huge profit if they become lucky on one of there game especially on slot.

[seoincorporation]

...

Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated...

I know the rules about multiple accounts, i know they aren't allowed, but i'm talking about a user with 1 account claiming all the possible deposit bonus and faucets... I think casinos should allow that, And if they think the users is abusing the system then the engine should block him for getting those bonus. But the fact that the casino blocks the accounts and ask for KYC while they hold the user balance is a cruel way to act, and that could be prevented if the casino engine have some limits set from the start, something like a a preventive measure.

[famososMuertos]

 I am not in a casino nor do I register to playing the faucets, they do not interest me.

 They are an old retrograde system that has to disappear or evolve as a royalty system, they also create false traffic to certain casinos, in fact a user who goes to a casino by faucet alone ends up being a "bot" of the casino.

 There are the ToC, ir easy simply read them and stick to them.

[molsewid]

...

Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated...

I know the rules about multiple accounts, i know they aren't allowed, but i'm talking about a user with 1 account claiming all the possible deposit bonus and faucets... I think casinos should allow that, And if they think the users is abusing the system then the engine should block him for getting those bonus. But the fact that the casino blocks the accounts and ask for KYC while they hold the user balance is a cruel way to act, and that could be prevented if the casino engine have some limits set from the start, something like a a preventive measure.

If people will continue to abuse the system, the casino will soon keep their winnings and they needed to complete their KYC, abusing these things will not give us permanent things or comfort, sooner or later the promo and giveaway of that casino might be gone or only a selected kind of winner will gonna receive it, not all can win.

[pawanjain]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Lets put it this way. If a hacker finds a loophole on a banks website and finds a way to transfer users fund from one account to another.
Should the bank not restrict/freeze the hackers account or his IP or should they wait for a fix to be deployed on the banks site and allow the hacker to keep stealing the funds.
I think this is the same case here. If there are loop holes on the gambling site then they should take whatever action is necessary to prevent the misuse.

[jrrsparkles]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

But as per their terms the casino has the rights to change their policies at anytime which I am not saying is completely right but they should accept their flaws of their system atleast give some reward if not possible to give everything may keep their dignity and reputation. Unless if they blocked thebuser completely and throwed the users will backfire them at some point which will result in lose of customer satisfaction and losing their profit value.

[Boristhecat]

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

Probably we are talking about some accounting errors that allow you to get the same bonus more times than was intended by the organizers. If we are talking about faucets and the like, then there users abuse them with the help of bots and various software that creates fake users 24/7 who in turn get paid for actions/requests.
In fact, this has long been an unpopular topic, since bots mainly work on both sides - one side creates fake users, and the other weeds them out.

[Fortify]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

If the user is using a single account and staying within the bounds of the rules, then generally there will be no problem. However from the casinos perspective if a user is just "farming" freebies and disappearing with money, in comparison to players who are profitable to them, they'll likely try to stamp out this behavior in the long term. Such accounts usually get restricted or at least any offers will not be eligible for such a user in future. Sometimes you get notified when this happens, other times you will not even know about missing future offers from your account. It's bad business to block such players entirely, but all free offers might be cut off at a certain point.

[livingfree]

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.

If there's an abuse that's happening, they have the right to do proper actions from those users and if they see no activities from them aside from just claiming faucets and bonuses, they'll have to block them because it doesn't have any contribution to their profits.

And if they're being nice to these people, they'll disallow them with the faucet claiming and bonuses and will still allow them to gamble instead.

[iv4n]

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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We all love "free money"! But it's not about that, it's about farming and abusing "free money"! We all have fun with bonuses and faucets, it's a low amount but there's always something to gamble with. If we are fair and we respect some rules there will be no problem. Some people (or to say a group of people?!) take this to another level, they intentionally create more accounts, they use bots, or whatever it's necessary for claiming "free coins"! And when they are doing this stuff with many accounts I guess there's some money in that, why would they do that if not?!

It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

You are absolutely correct, I in person have been gambling for some years now, though not actively, but I do sometimes gamble ones or twice a week, I claim free coin from faucet a times too, I do get some bonuses, in all this and in all this years, non of my gambling accounts have ever been locked or restricted.
This is why I agree with you that complaints about account locked or restrictions should be sometimes treated with some reservations, cus some gamblers really can abuse free stuff and that is why most times, they end up having issue with account used for the abuse.

[TimeTeller]

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

You are absolutely correct, I in person have been gambling for some years now, though not actively, but I do sometimes gamble ones or twice a week, I claim free coin from faucet a times too, I do get some bonuses, in all this and in all this years, non of my gambling accounts have ever been locked or restricted.
This is why I agree with you that complaints about account locked or restrictions should be sometimes treated with some reservations, cus some gamblers really can abuse free stuff and that is why most times, they end up having issue with account used for the abuse.

Most of the time, the casino found the user to create multi-accounts, hence blocking their withdrawals.
If you will just keep up with the terms of the casino, I also don't think you will be banned or blocked.
Users experiencing such treatment from the casino know what they violated.
Because it is hard to abuse those faucets or bonuses, if you will only have one account.
Aside from that, you only have so much time to claim from those faucets.
But if you think, you haven't violated in any of their terms, you can always complain or ask for help from this forum about your withdrawals.

[fathafraink]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think the online casino needs to improve, or even learn from other online casino sites, which allow users to get a free faucet on condition that the balance in the wallet is empty, so that is fair enough for the users. And if the thing you mention happens to you, you should make a post or make a reply to their thread (if their manager is on the forum), if it's not on this forum, then you should make a post or thread to be an experience lesson for many people.

[harizen]

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

Sometimes there are flaws in the system, however, instead of abusing it, users should at least notify the site about the bug.

Besides, not all users are having such actions and just doing the usual way of claiming in the faucets. Therefore, those who are aware of the bug are taking advantage of the situation which is already considered as "cheating".

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

As long as that "smart way" is not considered a form of cheating or related activity, then they are good to go.

In the case of withdrawals being blocked, the site should explain clearly why it happened.

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

Just for reference as I missed it, may I know what casinos you are referring to?

Just want to see the details of their respective cases so I can give a proper response on this thread about the subject.

[livingfree]

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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We all love "free money"! But it's not about that, it's about farming and abusing "free money"! We all have fun with bonuses and faucets, it's a low amount but there's always something to gamble with. If we are fair and we respect some rules there will be no problem. Some people (or to say a group of people?!) take this to another level, they intentionally create more accounts, they use bots, or whatever it's necessary for claiming "free coins"! And when they are doing this stuff with many accounts I guess there's some money in that, why would they do that if not?!

When there's a user that abuses it, then it's a different thing to discuss with. Those abusers deserve nothing but to have an absolutely ban from that casino that they're abusing.

It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

I agree to you about this one. There have been threads of complaints that they've been banned and locked so easy.

But when a representative of that casino that they're complaining about comes to explain everything, it becomes clear that there are valid reasons why they've done that to those users.

[ethereumhunter]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think the online casino needs to improve, or even learn from other online casino sites, which allow users to get a free faucet on condition that the balance in the wallet is empty, so that is fair enough for the users. And if the thing you mention happens to you, you should make a post or make a reply to their thread (if their manager is on the forum), if it's not on this forum, then you should make a post or thread to be an experience lesson for many people.

And maybe that's why it's very rare nowadays for casinos to provide free faucets because they already know that people can use it to get capital to gamble. But sometimes casinos that provide free faucets can give them to their members; if they can win, they still have to deposit some money to withdraw the winning money. But if the free faucet is provided to members with empty wallets, user does not have to abuse it

[nullama]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I'm sure it's part of the rules to not over-claim faucets, etc. It's the same in many services. They basically provide you with something nice, and they expect so-called "fair use" which is usually indicated in the terms and conditions.

Casinos and other services do need to do extreme things like blocking these users, of course. The alternative would be to not provide the nice thing, or make it extremely annoying to use for 99% of the rest of the users.

They're just ruining it for everyone for personal benefit. Not sure if that's what I would call smart, because the service stops even for them.

[BitDane]

So, what do you think about this?

I can only arrive to a conclusion that those accounts that has been locked due to faucet and bonus farming is engage in Multi accounting.  There is a casino rule that exploiting faucet and bonus is subject to account ban. And also most casino does not allow multi-accounting.  Even some casino implement in an house hold IP, only 1 account is allowed.

[goinmerry]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

If that way leads to abuse then it's just that the casinos will lock those involved accounts.

Everyone should just follow what is written on the faucet or bonus terms. If there's a discovered unusual method that can take advantage of getting more profits or bonuses, these users already violated the site terms.

Generally, that should be the case.

[Lanatsa]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

If that way leads to abuse then it's just that the casinos will lock those involved accounts.

Everyone should just follow what is written on the faucet or bonus terms. If there's a discovered unusual method that can take advantage of getting more profits or bonuses, these users already violated the site terms.

Generally, that should be the case.

Whether they would really be caught or not then it is really part of their error if there's someone do able to make abuse of these bonuses or faucet.Any shady actions or behavior will always be that violating

on site terms and conditions which they do have the rights on blocking or banning out those involved users.We know that there's no such thing about perfect security or perfect system which

there might be some exploits or lapses which other players will really be taking abuse.So it does vary on how sooner or later they would really be able to be caught.
Faucet amounts are just for the sake of testing out the site and not for profit farming.

[agustina2]

In the first place, faucets should not be meant to be abused. Even if users will find a way to take more over the usual profits, it's not fair.

We can't just say that the system allows it and it's not the user's fault but it will be monitored and the activity of that account will trigger the alarm.

Locking accounts doesn't mean that they are already banned. It's just that investigation will take place to check these accounts.

[Fundamentals Of]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

[nakamura12]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one account instead of having many accounts even though I never tried having many accounts in a single casino. I don't know the other reason why they wanted to abuse it but I do know that they are being greedy which is very obvious. Well, they can only use one identity for only one account as you have said and definitely cannot use the same identity for the other accounts in the same casino which it will be banned or blocked.

[Bitinity]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one account instead of having many accounts even though I never tried having many accounts in a single casino. I don't know the other reason why they wanted to abuse it but I do know that they are being greedy which is very obvious. Well, they can only use one identity for only one account as you have said and definitely cannot use the same identity for the other accounts in the same casino which it will be banned or blocked.

Are you sure that you do not know the reason of abuse while it is clear and well known that the only purpose of abuse is to take benefits of earning money for free or earning money without any risk of losing money. Faucet abuse/farming was really common thing in the past when most casino with faucet became victim of the abusers. This is also the reason why thesedays not many casino provide faucet and many casinos removed their faucet.

[nakamura12]

Are you sure that you do not know the reason of abuse while it is clear and well known that the only purpose of abuse is to take benefits of earning money for free or earning money without any risk of losing money. Faucet abuse/farming was really common thing in the past when most casino with faucet became victim of the abusers. This is also the reason why thesedays not many casino provide faucet and many casinos removed their faucet.

Of course I know that but what I mean is there could be another reason other than that. I know that those people who abuse faucets and bonus wanted to earn free money without having to work before you got paid where ij bonuses and faucets is you can earn for free which is why I said being greedy. There could be another reason for doing that which it might be doing the same thing but to make the casino have a bad reputation that's why I said it not because I don't know the reason. My bad for not making it clear what I really meant in that last post. Well, I do said that "I don't know the other reason why they wanted to abuse it".

[traderethereum]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

I think the casinos have made clear rules about what is and what is not so that if a gambler tries to break the rules, the casino can penalize them.
And in awarding faucets or bonuses to their members, the casino hopes each member can use them fairly and not try to earn more by cheating.
But as you say, there are casino features that can be inadvertently abused and some members know about it and try to use it to their advantage.
And before that happens, maybe the casino needs to make sure that there are no vulnerabilities on their site and always do regular checks.

[btc_angela]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one account instead of having many accounts even though I never tried having many accounts in a single casino. I don't know the other reason why they wanted to abuse it but I do know that they are being greedy which is very obvious. Well, they can only use one identity for only one account as you have said and definitely cannot use the same identity for the other accounts in the same casino which it will be banned or blocked.

Are you sure that you do not know the reason of abuse while it is clear and well known that the only purpose of abuse is to take benefits of earning money for free or earning money without any risk of losing money. Faucet abuse/farming was really common thing in the past when most casino with faucet became victim of the abusers. This is also the reason why thesedays not many casino provide faucet and many casinos removed their faucet.

Yeah, that is the main reason, there are individual or group of persons that are going to take advantage and abuse every casino they can find offline and online. Casinos are a target because obviously, there are a lot of money involved here. So this individuals wanted to strike gold by taking advantage of every faucets that they can find specially in the early days of crypto based gambling casinos. But throughout the years, casino's learn how to fight back and protect themselves against this abusers.

[TopTort777]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

[ethereumhunter]

It would be better if you don't have many accounts, even if your goal is just to have fun, because as it is written in the rules of every casino that a person can only have one account. But many people abuse it because they want to get more bonuses and faucets and don't think if the casino finds out, it can block all of their accounts. And maybe that's why KYC began to be implemented so that each account can only use 1 identity. But of course, there will be ways for them, especially those who often exploit the abuse of bonuses and faucets, to get more.

I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one account instead of having many accounts even though I never tried having many accounts in a single casino. I don't know the other reason why they wanted to abuse it but I do know that they are being greedy which is very obvious. Well, they can only use one identity for only one account as you have said and definitely cannot use the same identity for the other accounts in the same casino which it will be banned or blocked.

The only thing I think about is that if they create more than one account, they want to use the affiliate bonus that is in the casino so they can get more rewards or prizes. And when casinos ask for KYC on some of their accounts, they can't do it because each account can only use one identity. Well, they could have borrowed someone else's identity and maybe that's what they used to verify their other accounts.

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

Yes, I remember that casino and it looks like it is still running today, although I don't know how it is now. I guess you are not cheating because you get that free money every hour and use it to bet. And although you can get extra free money from the faucet, it seems the casino has a way of stopping users from breaking the rules by limiting the number of "free sats" each member can get each week. And if they have almost reached the limit or have reached the limit, there will be a message like you said. I guess that's what casinos can do to limit cheating in using faucets and before we can withdraw the free money, we have to deposit some money and use it to bet.

[seoincorporation]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

100 claims hourly for sure will be consider an abuse under any site, i don't like the fact that they doesn't set the limits on the TOS, they should mention those limits somewhere, and the fact that you had to make a deposit to be able to withdraw was not cool at all, but a lot of casinos works that way nowadays, some of them offers free money and then ask for a depo, and for me that doesn't feel like free at all.

The mistake of that casino was the time between each claim, if they set the time to 1 claim each hour, that would keep the people on the site and avoid the abuse.

[Daltonik]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

[nullama]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

[dunfida]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

If there are people who do able to make those abuse or exploits then it do pertain means that there's some lapses into their security which there's no other to be blamed but themselves.

When you do run off some bonuses or faucet amounts then it would really be just common sense that you would really be that be assuring that there would be no people would able
to bypass security system or making things to look right or on systematic way.

[nullama]

~snip~
If there are people who do able to make those abuse or exploits then it do pertain means that there's some lapses into their security which there's no other to be blamed but themselves.

When you do run off some bonuses or faucet amounts then it would really be just common sense that you would really be that be assuring that there would be no people would able
to bypass security system or making things to look right or on systematic way.

It might be possible for example to create multiple accounts, and similar things, which most users won't be doing.

They might be able to stop that, but probably that will also come with a more difficult usage for normal users, so maybe they don't want that tradeoff.

Things are more complicated than what it looks like from the outside.

[fortunecrypto]

100 claims hourly for sure will be consider an abuse under any site, i don't like the fact that they doesn't set the limits on the TOS, they should mention those limits somewhere, and the fact that you had to make a deposit to be able to withdraw was not cool at all, but a lot of casinos works that way nowadays, some of them offers free money and then ask for a depo, and for me that doesn't feel like free at all.

They should set a limit in the first place the user will think it's ok to claim continuously because there is no rule or notification laid out by the casino on the limit of claim, the players who are serious in playing in a particular casino will check all terms and rules and will abide by it

The mistake of that casino was the time between each claim, if they set the time to 1 claim each hour, that would keep the people on the site and avoid the abuse.

That's the right thing to do all the other faucets I used to claim and actively claim have timers on them like on Betfury where you have to wait 5 minutes to ten minutes for the next claim faucet and bonuses are subject to abuse, casinos should laid out a system where the users cannot go overboard or abuse it, some gamblers are greedy and forget the rules when the casino is not limiting each claim.

[nakamura12]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

I don't think you are cheating or abusing their faucet since you use it to bet. What I mostly noticed in casinos is that claiming faucets in their casinos have limits and time you have to wait before you can claim again. I don't think that just because you have claimed faucets until you have claimed all free sats you can claim within a week doesn't mean you are a cheater unless you created more than one account to claim faucets for a chance to win huge amount of money then withdraw after completing the requirements they ask before you can withdraw the funds.

[Nrcewker]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Faucet isn’t any sort of free money to be honest. A gambling site has faucet in order for their players to test the game without actually depositing the money. But there are some people, who never deposits and starts to farm the faucet. This is actually against the rules. And if a user is found doing this, then his account should be definitely blocked. Moreover a casino should also ensure that he only block that amount of money that the user has farmed, and if it is blocking an account, then they should return the original deposit account and forbid the gambler from playing more on the site. This is my thought on this.

[Fundamentals Of]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

I think the casinos have made clear rules about what is and what is not so that if a gambler tries to break the rules, the casino can penalize them.
And in awarding faucets or bonuses to their members, the casino hopes each member can use them fairly and not try to earn more by cheating.
But as you say, there are casino features that can be inadvertently abused and some members know about it and try to use it to their advantage.
And before that happens, maybe the casino needs to make sure that there are no vulnerabilities on their site and always do regular checks.

That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

[traderethereum]

Casinos should set the clear boundaries. There are definitely casino features that could indeed be abused. If they do not set clear parameters and rules as far as their features and bonuses are concerned, things are rather subjective. It is going to be unfair. But I am only referring to player actions that are not violations as per their terms and conditions. But those clear violations or abuse should not be tolerated like account farming to abuse bonuses.

I think the casinos have made clear rules about what is and what is not so that if a gambler tries to break the rules, the casino can penalize them.
And in awarding faucets or bonuses to their members, the casino hopes each member can use them fairly and not try to earn more by cheating.
But as you say, there are casino features that can be inadvertently abused and some members know about it and try to use it to their advantage.
And before that happens, maybe the casino needs to make sure that there are no vulnerabilities on their site and always do regular checks.

That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

[Fundamentals Of]

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That's what I'm saying, casinos should properly consider all possibilities before offering certain features. Before offering particular features that are prone to abuses, they should already set the rules. In faucets for example, they could provide a maximum amount to prevent abusers to farm with it. But without these rules, it would be very unfair for them to freeze funds from the players even if these funds are coming from faucets. It is allowed after all.

They better improve it by providing strict and clear rules but until then, they should not freeze faucet funds.

If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

This is just my guess but I think many casinos are sort of rushing in providing their potential users attractive features like bonuses and faucets. They're probably thinking of the competition more than anything else. They know that they have to step up because they are up against popular platforms. They know that they have to give something better to steal users away from other casinos. As a result they end up forgetting that they also need to put up a sort of defense mechanism against these very same users. They indeed ended up attracting users but many of these users are only attracted by the loopholes in their system. Their strategies backfired.

[Solosanz]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

[Reid]

The casino is wrong obviously if they are preventing a withdrawal from a person who made their money from visiting their site and claiming it every day.
First, that's traffic for them which means it is good for their business if more people are coming in even without deposits.
It's like they are just paying for that, and faucets given are not that high anymore, it will take months or years before they even reach the minimum withdrawal.
They could stop this by simply enabling faucets for those who have zero balance.

[TheGreatPython]

I am not in a casino nor do I register to playing the faucets, they do not interest me.

 They are an old retrograde system that has to disappear or evolve as a royalty system, they also create false traffic to certain casinos, in fact a user who goes to a casino by faucet alone ends up being a "bot" of the casino.

 There are the ToC, ir easy simply read them and stick to them.

Casino is for having fun and trying our luck to win a profit. It wasn't built for faucets. If we don't have the money or we don't want to gamble but we want to try faucets then we need to go on a real faucet sites. There are lots of them and they are less strict.

Faucets are put by a casino for some reasons like players can use it to test the games but there are still some players who use their faucet claims as their main capital and they don't deposit anymore. This is wrong and against the rules. When it comes to traffic. Casino likes it if they have more traffic and maybe the faucet is one of their asset to attract people to come on them. Bots cant abuse it because there are captchas.

[Bitinity]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

[TopTort777]

I remember one case - we have (or better say had) BetJa casino here. I dont remember conditions well right now, but users could claim 100 hourly; after 3 claims, to be able to claim more, user had to make a bet with an odd no lower than 1.4. Calculations are simple, claim 300, lose 100 (or win) and claim next 300. It wasnt states in rules how much you can claim from that faucet. Seems to be unlimted and free money. I did not succeed much, because there was a hidden and unknown rules, that after a number of claims, I got "you have claimed enough this week" message from casino.

What do you think, did I acted as an abuser, because I was technically stopped from getting free money? Was it correct for casino to stop me in that way, because to withdraw those "free sat", I had to make a deposit (and probably wager, dont remember that right now) ?

100 claims hourly for sure will be consider an abuse under any site, i don't like the fact that they doesn't set the limits on the TOS, they should mention those limits somewhere, and the fact that you had to make a deposit to be able to withdraw was not cool at all, but a lot of casinos works that way nowadays, some of them offers free money and then ask for a depo, and for me that doesn't feel like free at all.

The mistake of that casino was the time between each claim, if they set the time to 1 claim each hour, that would keep the people on the site and avoid the abuse.

Sorry, I have missed the word "sat". I was claiming 100 sat hourly. Every hour I open their site, claim 100 sat and close it. Every 3 hours I made a random bet with 1.5 odd and claim my 100 sat. I've done  that for few week during working hours. So I had like 3 of that 3h circles. For casino - I was a useless client for them. From my point of view - everything I did was allowed. Then they start to pause my by those "you have claimed enough" messages. From my point of view - they were cheating, as I wasnt mentioned anywhere how much I can claim. As well as, if I was entering their site and lose every hour 100 sat, they wont stop me from doing it. They wont show me a message "dude, you have lost enough already, go get some rest".

[Jating]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

And I think that's what the casino is doing now, there are no more faucet claiming unlike before wherein in every hour you can claim and then play, and for some, they created multiple accounts and abuse it.

So casino's now are very clever and it we can find one, for sure they have place some safety nets so that no one can take advantage and abuse their system. Casino's need to be one step of the game hear.

[traderethereum]

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If the casino is not prepared for the cheating that might occur later, they can remove the faucet feature and replace it with something else to solve the cheating problem to get free money.
That would be the last step the casinos would take if they couldn't handle it.
And it will be at the casino's discretion to ensure there is no more abuse in its casino and members can play comfortably without having to complain about the matter.
It would be better if the casino could provide more bonuses to its members so that they can feel at home playing at the casino.

This is just my guess but I think many casinos are sort of rushing in providing their potential users attractive features like bonuses and faucets. They're probably thinking of the competition more than anything else. They know that they have to step up because they are up against popular platforms. They know that they have to give something better to steal users away from other casinos. As a result they end up forgetting that they also need to put up a sort of defense mechanism against these very same users. They indeed ended up attracting users but many of these users are only attracted by the loopholes in their system. Their strategies backfired.

Maybe it's because they want to launch the casino soon and get a lot of members that they provide features that they may not have checked for vulnerabilities.
But over time, they can see if the feature will be useful for its members or can be misused for the benefit of the members.
If they want to become a reputable casino, they must do many things to ensure everything in their casino is working properly.
And they also have to monitor and look for loopholes that are vulnerable to abuse and close them or even eliminate features that their members can abuse.

[AicecreaME]

If you read the terms of service of a gambling website, you'll  see that it is almost always stated that they strictly prohibit any kind of activity that is abusive to protect the balance and fairness in the platform. Anything that they will see as unusual and is abusive in nature will receive necessary punishment to avoid further exploitation of the site. Since faucet and bonus farming is considered to be an abuse, it shouldn't be done in any platform if you want to be able to use your account peacefully. Because if you persist to do so and they caught your account violating their TOS, they might actually suspend it or even permanently ban it so you won't be able to withdraw the funds.

Creating multiple accounts became rampant because of promotions such as bonuses which players utilize to their advantage. It's strictly not allowed, but these people get confident because most of them aren't getting caught yet. Hence. the security must be tightened to ensure there will be no more abusive activities be done. Both the casino and the players who do it are at fault. No matter how bad it is though, we can't really impose our morals and values to others. So the best resolution here would be stricter security measures and detection which is on the end of the gambling site. After all, the casino must check from time to time the features they are vulnerable with so they won't suffer losses and to uphold their reputation as well.

[madnessteat]

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Personally, I think that the casinos should be more clear about what exactly is included in the prohibited activities that are offensive, and limit the use of cranes at the software level.

We all know that machines as well as people make mistakes, so we can't exclude the situation when an account gets banned if its owner didn't violate any rules and didn't abuse the platform. Casinos have to be more loyal to their users and treat their complaints and requests more carefully.

[wxa7115]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

There was a time in which most casinos had faucets and they accepted that some of their users did not deposited any money and simply used the money they got from faucets to gamble, as they were expecting for those people to eventually make a deposit with them.

But times have changed, and now it is rare to see casinos offering faucets as they know they will open a can of worms if they do so, as some users may try to abuse the faucet and claim from it with multiple accounts.

[Strongkored]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

[nullama]

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That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

Yeah, and that's the thing. Anything nice provided by any company can in theory be abused.

It's fine if the abusers get banned, it's the only way to keep the nice thing being delivered to the vast majority of users.

Also, someone's not smart for abusing a system. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.

[ethereumhunter]

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That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

Yeah, and that's the thing. Anything nice provided by any company can in theory be abused.

It's fine if the abusers get banned, it's the only way to keep the nice thing being delivered to the vast majority of users.

Also, someone's not smart for abusing a system. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.

It seems that the casino prefers to offer bonuses to its players, even though it still has the possibility of being tricked by the players. And it does seem like the only way the casinos have to do this is to ban players who abuse their rules so there won't be a chance for them to do so.

And as good players, we shouldn't try to abuse it just to want to get more out of the casino because that will definitely get our account in trouble. It's better if we play it safe and honest so that we can enjoy gambling time at the casino.

[Maestro75]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

From what you have tried to explain, it is not the users fault. But why is it that casinos and gambling sites are always looking for excuses not to pay out winnings. If they do not like paying winners they should not be running casino business at all. You do not expect players to loss every time. If that happens you will find people losing interest in playing at casinos because they will conclude that there is no need to go play. Gamblers want what will increase the little cash they stake and not what will make them lose it. It is worse when they mistakenly win and you do not pay it out.

[Peanutswar]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

i call it no one wants to lose and gamblers or casino owners also want to make a profit.

i think the casino sets the rules for the players with the faucets and bonuses because the casino owners want the users to attract more real new users to join the gambling platform. so both users and casino owners alike get real profits without any cheating.
but if the user attracts new fake users to enter into the casino by cheating and it only benefits the user and the casino owner loses due to paying for the fraud and after that the user is suspended. for me it's only natural. because the casino also does not want to lose.

Having the feature of faucet and other bonuses is part of the marketing strategy of their platform and of course getting a touch to the players, that some of the members see a potential abuse to the platform but of course, there's a chance that the platform might detect this kind of thing like with the use of the IP address that's the time they ask a KYC for the people who they think registered a lot of account in the same device and IP. If they can go through out right there I guess they will abuse as possible until the casino notice this problem.

[serjent05]

That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

I believe the casino has a countermeasure for this kind of cheating.  Exploiting faucets and bonuses can be detected by their anti-abuse system.  Aside from that faucet amount is really small and they implement a deposit or wagering requirement before it can be withdrawn.

Yeah, and that's the thing. Anything nice provided by any company can in theory be abused.

It's fine if the abusers get banned, it's the only way to keep the nice thing being delivered to the vast majority of users.

Also, someone's not smart for abusing a system. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.

And in theory, these abuses can be detected, and eventually, the perpetrator will be banned and blocked from playing in the casino.  Yeah, it is fine if the abusers get banned but there is a serious problem lies in this system.  The casino often takes advantage of this abuse stuff in order to prevent or delay legit players from withdrawing their winnings and need to provide additional personal information to be verified.  Then they will delay the process for months.  We have seen cases like this on the scam accusation board.

[Jemzx00]

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That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

Yeah, and that's the thing. Anything nice provided by any company can in theory be abused.

It's fine if the abusers get banned, it's the only way to keep the nice thing being delivered to the vast majority of users.

Also, someone's not smart for abusing a system. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.

In most cases, yes, almost all bonuses provided by the casino to treat their users or gamblers can be abused. However, casinos most like know it already and have set up to detect abusers. Also, some of them set up restrictions and requirements to receive these bonuses.

It's great to have the moral high ground and avoided finding loopholes to these bonuses offered. But for these abusers, it might actually be smart for them to abuse those bonuses as most of them was able to abuse the system before getting caught.

[SirLancelot]

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

Casinos can always put a strict rule when it comes to faucet use so that it will not be abused by the gamblers. That way, there's no need for them to remove the faucet but still, there are many casinos who remove their faucet.

I think that's because of other reasons. Maybe they think faucets are too outdated already? Which is kinda true and If gamblers want's to test the site then there are now demo plays which works better than the faucets because you can test the games all you want. Bonuses, on the other hand are already there even before. Many gamblers are trying to abuse the bonus more than the faucets because they are more profitable.

[bakasabo]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

[QueenVera]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think we users don't really twkethe time to read through the terms and conditions of a casino before usage.
Some casinos always states it very clear, it's right to restrict and block any account with any threat suspicion or that defiles their rules and that's why most of abnormalities of th casinos aren't treated seriously

But with regards to this very form you expressed which you indirectly pointed at the casinos, then, the casinos are to take full responsibility of their system and make amendments rather than shutting Dow a customers account.

[Plaguedeath]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

Don't be surprised, there's still a lot of poor people on third world countries who get paid around $2/day after work from 7AM to 5PM, obviously those faucet is very meaningful for them. Since faucet is free and they can withdraw the bonus money if they can complete the requirement, they will try and keep gamble with the faucet until they're very lucky. Usually a casino set a limit withdrawal for bonus money is for $50, with this they can get 1 month payment without need to work from 7AM to 5PM.

[xSkylarx]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

Don't be surprised, there's still a lot of poor people on third world countries who get paid around $2/day after work from 7AM to 5PM, obviously those faucet is very meaningful for them. Since faucet is free and they can withdraw the bonus money if they can complete the requirement, they will try and keep gamble with the faucet until they're very lucky. Usually a casino set a limit withdrawal for bonus money is for $50, with this they can get 1 month payment without need to work from 7AM to 5PM.

Agree with this, I know someone like this, even though it is only a small amount, but it will accumulate over time. The reason why they have a kind of patience for this is that they need money. Most of this is in third-world countries, and their income is very low. People will say it will take time, or the website owner will be happy because there are still people going to faucets and earning from it. You should be amazed that this kind of person has a lot of patience when it comes to this. But for us, faucets in the gambling site are really for testing the features or trying the website and having a grasp before depositing our money.

[madnessteat]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

I agree with you that using faucet in 2022 is a futile exercise. I would rather spend this time to improve their skills, which in the future can contribute to higher earnings.

If I was a casino owner I definitely wouldn't run faucet on my platform, because in my opinion it mostly attracts audience with money problems.

In my opinion a deposit bonus is more beneficial for the casino.  

[Casdinyard]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

You could argue about the fact that applying a true fix to this issue is the real way issue with faucet exploits could be solved. But I can bet my bottom dollar that:

• A. These people would just find other ways to exploit the system
• B. The gambling sites in question wouldn't do anything about it because these exploits bait people into coming to their site.

And even if the above factors weren't the case for the majority, regular patches on a very dynamic site such as a gambling website would cost its primary stakeholders extra money in the upkeep department, which means less money for them. So no, the changes we so desire are a bit too impossible at the moment, given the current circumstances.

[abel1337]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

I agree with you that using faucet in 2022 is a futile exercise. I would rather spend this time to improve their skills, which in the future can contribute to higher earnings.

If I was a casino owner I definitely wouldn't run faucet on my platform, because in my opinion it mostly attracts audience with money problems.

In my opinion a deposit bonus is more beneficial for the casino.  

I may be doing the same, It is more wise to gather some skills than spending time doing faucets but it will be the same case for abusers. Abusers are wise, There's a high chance that they are doing multi accounting on those casino that has a faucet system and might be using bots to claim those faucets for an easy way to abuse the casino. It really attracts people with money problems but those people are primarily their target since those people can't control themselves and has a high possibility of just depositing and enjoy doing gambling. But if they were exploited hard time, It would be a different scenario and the casino might have the intent to block those who are winning from faucet on more than they expected.

[ThemePen]

So, what do you think about this?

I have an example. I told my friend about trustdice an year ago. He claimed faucets and played the casino games. And he reached the threshold of withdraw.

He made withdraw but Trustdice ask him to deposit and paly games with deposited funds. Then they will give withdraw.

First of all they should give withdraw. If they don't want to give withdraw they should remove faucet claiming.

[bakasabo]

Abusers are wise, There's a high chance that they are doing multi accounting on those casino that has a faucet system and might be using bots to claim those faucets for an easy way to abuse the casino.

I have never seen people abuse faucets with multiple accounts nowadays. Because minimum withdrawal fee usually is so high (compared to amount user receive with single claim), that it will take a lot of time, about 3-9 months before that amount can be reached. And even after that, casinos charge withdrawal fees, which makes faucets a complete waste of time. Who would in clear mind run multiple accounts for months to get some dollars? I think through freelance job it will be much quicker to achieve same financial result.

[rodskee]

What amazes me, is that there are still people who believe in faucets. We all know where free cheese is, but still spend time claiming faucets. How much could a faucet bring? Even with 24/7 claiming. A dollar per month or a year? Using multiple accounts for such think is not wise, as VPN cost more. Faucets were profitable maybe only in 2015-2017. In 2022 every faucet is a waste of time. Bonus hunting is different, but still a waste of time. Requirements for bonus are usually hard to achieve and while achieving them, chances of loosing money are higher than during usual gambling imo.

Don't be surprised, there's still a lot of poor people on third world countries who get paid around $2/day after work from 7AM to 5PM, obviously those faucet is very meaningful for them. Since faucet is free and they can withdraw the bonus money if they can complete the requirement, they will try and keep gamble with the faucet until they're very lucky. Usually a casino set a limit withdrawal for bonus money is for $50, with this they can get 1 month payment without need to work from 7AM to 5PM.

that sadden me , hearing in some countries people are still earning 2 dollars for 10 hours working time , and i indeed respect them for earning in faucet as the amount is truly a big help for their living.
that's why in some gambling sites that offers even single satoshi for spin? they tend to accumulate and try their luck.

[traderethereum]

So, what do you think about this?

I have an example. I told my friend about trustdice an year ago. He claimed faucets and played the casino games. And he reached the threshold of withdraw.

He made withdraw but Trustdice ask him to deposit and paly games with deposited funds. Then they will give withdraw.

First of all they should give withdraw. If they don't want to give withdraw they should remove faucet claiming.

This provides an example that there are still people who think playing with faucets is still profitable for them.
At least they can reach the withdrawal limit, although they are required to deposit the minimum but if it is a recommended casino, they certainly don't have to worry if they want to withdraw their money.
A faucet's presence can attract more players to play gambling on a site because by getting free money from the faucet, they can feel the experience.
And if they are satisfied, they will deposit the minimum amount required to be able to continue playing.

[GideonGono]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think that the website should be clear on their rules it was their system and if there aren't any rules about it, then it would really be unfair for the users even though they abuse the system it was the result of the website being unclear to their rules.

[wxa7115]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think that the website should be clear on their rules it was their system and if there aren't any rules about it, then it would really be unfair for the users even though they abuse the system it was the result of the website being unclear to their rules.

It would be odd for a casino to not have some very clear rues when it comes to activities they consider faucet and bonus abuse, since this is one of the most obvious ways in which they can see their profits going down if enough people abuse their offers.

However if you could find a casino which such oversight on their terms of service then I would agree that the casino in on the wrong, as they would be blocking a withdrawal for something which was technically allowed, however I do not think this is likely at all.

[Reatim]

In my opinion, the requirements for bonuses at some online casinos are so not obvious and confusing that it allows gambling platforms to interpret them at their discretion and users may suffer due to unreasonable blocking. And in another case, if a player has found a way to benefit from a bug he discovered in the faucet or bonuses, then he should report it to the casino support.

OP is actually referring to the person getting extra bonuses as "smart" so it seems to imply that they're gaming the system, not just using the faucet, but abusing it.

If people simply use the faucets, then they shouldn't have a problem. Otherwise casinos would be blocking most of their customers, and that makes no sense.

That should be a concern because the smart way that players say is actually just a subtle word for cheating the system.
Actually, for now, not many casinos also include faucets, so there is a lot of abuse of faucets, now more casinos offer bonuses that can still be tricked by players.

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

I think that the website should be clear on their rules it was their system and if there aren't any rules about it, then it would really be unfair for the users even though they abuse the system it was the result of the website being unclear to their rules.

the website are always clear, specially the legit one , but the problem are the players who does not read the rules or intentionally breaking it .

[Oasisman]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

From what you have tried to explain, it is not the users fault. But why is it that casinos and gambling sites are always looking for excuses not to pay out winnings. If they do not like paying winners they should not be running casino business at all. You do not expect players to loss every time. If that happens you will find people losing interest in playing at casinos because they will conclude that there is no need to go play. Gamblers want what will increase the little cash they stake and not what will make them lose it. It is worse when they mistakenly win and you do not pay it out.

How do we know if that user was really not in fault? from what the OP has explained it, the user claim tons of faucet and "bonus farming?" and smarter enough to make profit out of those free bets, that sounds like an abuse to me. Though it's not always gonna be the case, but mostly.
We all know that every online casinos doesn't like abusive actions especially with the bonuses , faucet, and stuff like that. Nobody wants to be abused in any other way though, even us.
Whether or not that user was abusing, for sure that casino conducted their review with your transaction histories before making decisions. Not unless, if that casino is not reputable enough to follow a simple due process.

[ethereumhunter]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

[Maestro75]

From what you have tried to explain, it is not the users fault. But why is it that casinos and gambling sites are always looking for excuses not to pay out winnings. If they do not like paying winners they should not be running casino business at all.

How do we know if that user was really not in fault? from what the OP has explained it, the user claim tons of faucet and "bonus farming?" and smarter enough to make profit out of those free bets, that sounds like an abuse to me. Though it's not always gonna be the case, but mostly.

You talk like you have not encountered dubious casinos before. They do anything to make sure those who win will not get their winnings. It is not even about claiming tons of faucet. I have claimed on faucet sites and there were restrictions on what tokens to claim at certain duration. Some make it like five tokens daily even if there are countless of tokens there. Now tell me why a casino can not do same if it think it is going to be a crime, than allow gamblers play them and then use it against them?

[madnessteat]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

Personally, I do not see the point of using cranes as casino owners and users. This trend was relevant a few years ago, but now it is a waste of time.

In my opinion, expecting to get rich on cranes as much mistakenly as to think that you can get rich participating in airdrop, which do not require any investment.

I believe that if a person doesn't have the free money to play in a casino, he doesn't belong there.

[blockman]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

Not just nowadays but even before, we've seen a lot of popular casinos today that have been known because of the faucets. And eventually, they've became strict when abusers have found it as a source of huge money for them even if they exert a lot of effort.

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

It's favoring the site because they own it and that's why if there are abusers or cheaters that have been caught and they're complaining, they have got nothing against them specially if they're proven that they're abusing the system.

[o48o]

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

[ethereumhunter]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

Personally, I do not see the point of using cranes as casino owners and users. This trend was relevant a few years ago, but now it is a waste of time.

In my opinion, expecting to get rich on cranes as much mistakenly as to think that you can get rich participating in airdrop, which do not require any investment.

I believe that if a person doesn't have the free money to play in a casino, he doesn't belong there.

But at the very least, one can start playing at the casino and get a feel for the gambling experience and it can make them to try to deposit the minimum amount required to continue playing again. If they keep using that faucet for free money, that's also okay because the casino provides that feature for its members. Unless they tried to break the rules, that wouldn't give them a chance to do so.

Getting rich from the faucet today is very difficult because the reward factor is different from the past, so we should forget about it. But we can still get rewards from faucets in some casinos so we can still use them to play gambling. That's even if we don't want to deposit some money to play using real money.

[panganib999]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

People will always abuse ways of earning especially if it comes with little to no price. Faucets and Bonuses from gambling sites have been the prime victim of these types of acts in the crypto gambling industry since time immemorial, but along with the people in this thread I stand with the notion that it is the casino's fault for not imposing contingency measures against situations like these, whether incidental or a voluntary negligence on their end. Moving forward, I am not saying abusing of bonuses and faucets available in gambling sites are a good thing. It's just the normal course of action for most people, and crypto casinos should know this more than anyone.

[erep]

I have claimed on faucet sites and there were restrictions on what tokens to claim at certain duration. Some make it like five tokens daily even if there are countless of tokens there. Now tell me why a casino can not do same if it think it is going to be a crime, than allow gamblers play them and then use it against them?

So casinos have to set limits for faucets to avoid problems with faucet facilities because users can't use above the set limits, so I've never come across a case of account freeze just because users can abuse faucets but if the casino can confirm it then the user deserves to be locked out because he might use bots to exploit bugs from faucets.

[dothebeats]

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

[Reatim]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

Not just nowadays but even before, we've seen a lot of popular casinos today that have been known because of the faucets. And eventually, they've became strict when abusers have found it as a source of huge money for them even if they exert a lot of effort.

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

It's favoring the site because they own it and that's why if there are abusers or cheaters that have been caught and they're complaining, they have got nothing against them specially if they're proven that they're abusing the system.

and that is what we called Business in Gambling , the company will do anything to lure players and deposit money , no matter how they offer for us but the main goal is to take our money while letting us enjoy the element of losing.
always the same scenario , gamblers are loser and the operator always takes the money from our pocket.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

There was a time in which most casinos had faucets and they accepted that some of their users did not deposited any money and simply used the money they got from faucets to gamble, as they were expecting for those people to eventually make a deposit with them.

But times have changed, and now it is rare to see casinos offering faucets as they know they will open a can of worms if they do so, as some users may try to abuse the faucet and claim from it with multiple accounts.

Well, there is a casino that still has its faucet working and you don't even need a deposit to play, with what they give you there is enough to play, it's freebitco.in, it's a platform that has grown so much that they don't take into account if they create many accounts, the work that has to be done is so long and so repetitive that it is not a business for the abusers, because it is very difficult for them, every hour to be claiming sats, the same platform allows anyone to play, it is the only way that they can multiply their balance, currently with sports betting as well, and a very interesting fact is that there the account is also used as a wallet and they do not ask for KYC.

It should be noted that this was the platform with which I started this whole adventure, I remember that later I discovered Primedice and Stake.com, Primedice for the fact that it is a super exciting dice game, and I was one of those who was always waiting to hit the Roll every hour, it didn't hit him when he slept, they were great times.

[gunhell16]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I just want to ask you, Sir, you said you saw two casinos that locked user's accounts, are these accounts on the two casino platforms you mention the same accounts you tried to create on their website? You probably wouldn't know this if you didn't create an account yourself, right?

But you know Sir, sometimes that's what I was wondering, they make faucets and do a gambler's technique to grow it, the house edge sees it, they suddenly close the account, and I think it's work that It's different from other gambling platforms here in cryptocurrency.

In these gambling platforms, they should also show what a gambler should not do, not when they release a large amount of money on their platform and suddenly close the player's accounts.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

I see that the only platform that allows doing something like this is freebitco.in and they have never raised a problem for it, because the demands are so high that they do not worry if a person is 24 hours a day giving the faucet, because they know that at a certain moment those people will get tired and the effort will be a lot for such a small reward, I think this is something that we all know, I don't know if a casino wastes time freezing an account, because of many bots I don't think it's something convenient Unless there are thousands and thousands of accounts that do something like this, it would take thousands and thousands of PCs with activated accounts without any type of captcha.

[Lanatsa]

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

I see that the only platform that allows doing something like this is freebitco.in and they have never raised a problem for it, because the demands are so high that they do not worry if a person is 24 hours a day giving the faucet, because they know that at a certain moment those people will get tired and the effort will be a lot for such a small reward, I think this is something that we all know, I don't know if a casino wastes time freezing an account, because of many bots I don't think it's something convenient Unless there are thousands and thousands of accounts that do something like this, it would take thousands and thousands of PCs with activated accounts without any type of captcha.

I havent tested or tried Freebitco for so long if they have made out some changes on faucet claims but as far im that aware which it does have some captcha to solve on claiming out faucet for sure.

They cant just letthose abusers do claim on unlimited manner or on fast pace.For sure they are still minding out to have some control over bots considering on how these things could really affect it out at least.

Yes,it does involved small amounts if we do talk about faucet but we cant really just ignore the fact that there are ones who do spend their
time on believing that they could really take advantage from it.

[DoublerHunter]

and that is what we called Business in Gambling , the company will do anything to lure players and deposit money , no matter how they offer for us but the main goal is to take our money while letting us enjoy the element of losing.
always the same scenario , gamblers are loser and the operator always takes the money from our pocket.

I agree,I believe that  casino earning everyday is big so that even though they will give more and more free faucets each day or give a bonus farming still then can earn more, there will be a different scenario if it became a problem but it will be less likely to happen. They will create different bonuses and giveaways for them to get their customer's trust and also they want us to gamble more believing we're just gambling with small amount using wherein it is a lie.

^I don't think there are gambling casinos now that we can do farming bonuses and faucets, they are very wise at this day because they know already that possible abuse when there is a bonus. If we noticed it usually has requirements before you can initiate a withdrawal, the wager, and the minimum amount requirements of withdrawing funds. So it is impossible to abuse an old casino. Not like a new one that probably does not know yet about this marketing that there is possible abuse. However, some casinos offer this because of the marketing strategy to lure gamblers.

[Slow death]

^I don't think there are gambling casinos now that we can do farming bonuses and faucets, they are very wise at this day because they know already that possible abuse when there is a bonus.

in my opinion faucets are a loss for casinos, let's imagine that even if each person claims 1 satoshi per hour, if in a casino they have 50,000 people claim the faucet then we would have 50,000 satoshi every 1 hour, the casino would be bankrupt in a short time, faucets have not been profitable for years, at least they are not very profitable, if casinos are offering people the option to claim to play in the casino then maybe it would be different, but we all know that people claim fautes to withdraw later

I agree,I believe that  casino earning everyday is big so that even though they will give more and more free faucets each day or give a bonus farming still then can earn more...

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites? the answer is quite simple: because the faucet sites were not profitable anymore, even they lowering the amount that people could claim still it was not profitable, the casinos also won't have magic wand to make faucet profitable, maybe i'm wrong here, but in my opinion it is better for casinos to offer bonuses than to offer faucets. the welcome bonus, the bonus that comes with the various types of accounts like vip accounts, the monthly and weekly bonuses, this is already something good and enough that people should be grateful for

[o48o]

What about guys like me who haven't played in a year or 2, but already have leveled as a customer. Should we get to keep our faucet money? And what if we win big what should happen them. Technically i am doing the same thing, but as i once was a loyal customer. How should they treat my leeching from faucets?

I am referring to my post at Betfury thread

[Bitinity]

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

[Baofeng]

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

Yeah, probably in this era, I don't think that abusers of faucets can bankrupt a casino. But it could be true in the old days as there are no safety nets and probably casino are not equipped to deal with bonus farmings and other exploits that early gamblers used.

There could still be some sites that have faucets, not sure though, if I remember correctly, I used a sites like 2019 for faucets to just play again and again. But I grew tired of faucets.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

  -  You are right in what you said, I have been involved in crypto gambling and the faucets provided are quite good, I think it is enough to grow it using their platform. I'm saving up somehow. Then there are many crypto faucets that you can have for free, the only interval before you get faucets is about 5 mins.

Now, when you get all the assets that the gambling site is giving away, you are obliged to match them because you can only get faucets again when the balance is exhausted. But few crypto gambling does this and I think this is the only one doing it at the moment.

[dezoel]

I have been involved in crypto gambling and the faucets provided are quite good, I think it is enough to grow it using their platform. I'm saving up somehow. Then there are many crypto faucets that you can have for free, the only interval before you get faucets is about 5 mins.

Now, when you get all the assets that the gambling site is giving away, you are obliged to match them because you can only get faucets again when the balance is exhausted. But few crypto gambling does this and I think this is the only one doing it at the moment.

Grow what, your faucet balance? But, I think that was illegal and you will be tagged as a faucet farmer but what are your plans once you have accumulated sufficient amounts. Will you withdraw it immediately? Or you will use it for gambling? But, even if you will use it for gambling, your chances of winning are now going to be being increased.

This is the reason why most faucets that we see inside the casino have a limit or you can only claim once your balance are already zero. My advice for you mate is just go on a regular faucet site because you are free there to save your faucet claims. Just don't use multiple accounts or do other strange acts for you to be safe.

[Fatunad]

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

They are a business and not a charity which it would really be just normal that they would really be setting out limitations and restrictions for these bonuses or faucets to be abused.They arent new into the business
or industry on which it would be understandable that they cant just let it happen on letting people do claim endlessly which is really a huge expense for their part.
We cant really deny that there are really people who do tend or try to abuse faucets but it is really just that standard that there would be limits on claims
+ having that protection against bots which is really that typical security that would be set out.