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October 24, 2022, 07:01:53 PM |
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Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
Yes can if this guy have a proof and the law court in his country are fair. Before you play on an online lottery, you must to be a research the site to see if they have proof of payment of the winner's. I personally have never experienced it in an online lottery, because I always research before starting. So If I win they always paid, maybe the amount of wins is also small.
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October 24, 2022, 07:09:23 PM |
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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
What actual proof does he have that he won this amount? That's one of the first pieces of evidence a court will ask. It seems like a rather amateur mistake for what presumably is a licensed lottery operator to make, to lose this information - are they saying his name is not present in a database of ticket buyers? Are they saying they don't know what the winning results were? I don't understand why they would offer such settlement figures unless they were fairly confident he had a case against them, in which case a judge will likely side with the claimant because he shows they are not competent operators. I don't understand how he charges them with anything, doubt he is a police officer and it would likely just be a civil court case against them.
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October 24, 2022, 07:20:16 PM |
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... This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
there have been many stories like this happen, bookies always have a trick if they feel threatened by a big win, they will surely bribe all the authorities so that the young man can agree on the number of lottery winnings they offer in court. if the guy has money then he has to fight for it even though his time, money and energy are wasted, because the bookie is a scammer and has no desire to pay the guy who won the lottery from their company, I hope that guy can win.
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October 24, 2022, 07:21:37 PM |
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Casinos should not get into these kind of activities. It looks like OP have played in a reputed platform, if not he can't go anywhere for help claiming his win. As the platform have enrolled with the National Gambling Board, he have reached them. The board in favour of the casino is unfair. Surely we can expect good result if the judge isn't corrupt.
End of the day everything is business. When the respective platform drops down of the calculated profit, automatically the management will support to do these kind of act. This isn't good, and I expect the gambler to stay strong.
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October 24, 2022, 07:59:40 PM |
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Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
-If he does have that lottery ticket and some screenshots on the draw date then for sure that would be a solid evidence or proof which would be enough for those lottery operators to face up some shit. -So far i didnt hit any lottery or huge wins, therefore i dont really have any experiences related to this. -When they dont have any plans on paying since from the start then it does really simply means that they are just running lottery and hoping to have cash grab into those who do bet but on the time that someone do able to hit then this is where alibis and reasoning do happen. -This do usually take on legal action but of course you should really make yourself preparing up some funds considering approaching lawyers and other stuffs would really be costing you.
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October 24, 2022, 08:03:23 PM |
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This story reminded me the importance of decentralized platforms... I think all centralized platforms should prepare to become decentralized platforms one day because we have no other way to get rid of such problems. Today, I use some central platforms with peace of mind, but there are always some doubts inside me, that's why I put some limits on myself in all my bets... As a result, I think the unfortunate hero of this story may not get the money he earned from the bet. I hope he will try his luck at more reliable betting sites from now on, and if we don't want to experience such things again, we should strive for the spread of decentralized platforms.
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October 24, 2022, 08:24:00 PM |
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Provided that the company have agreed that the man won a game and it was wiped in their database due to their error which is not the man's fault, so with the initial agreement or acceptance that the Man won a game and because of their system we're unable to pay because of the database got corrupted, it will win them in any place it take the matter to, except that it's a situation where by it don't want recover or take the money from them.
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October 24, 2022, 08:32:08 PM |
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This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Definitely he will win on this, he won the lottery and whatever happened on the data base of that company is not his fault, he won and he deserve to get the right reward. Now that company will pay more because of this. They refuse probably because of insufficient funds or they have no plans to pay at all. Report to the authority and it’s good to file a case against them. As long as you have the evidence you can win on this.
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October 24, 2022, 08:39:06 PM |
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This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case? Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Definitely he will win on this, he won the lottery and whatever happened on the data base of that company is not his fault, he won and he deserve to get the right reward. Now that company will pay more because of this. They refuse probably because of insufficient funds or they have no plans to pay at all. Report to the authority and it’s good to file a case against them. As long as you have the evidence you can win on this. They shouldnt have run a lottery if they arent really paying to those possible wins.If they had lacked out some funds on giving the winning amount then they had just simply missed on putting up limits on how much a winner could potentially win out on max manner or simply they arent really paying at all.Its true that as long that man does have the lottery ticket then it would really be a solid evidence which he could really make some fight until the company would decide on paying him up.He do deserve those winnings and its just not a right reason for the company that there were some internal errors because numbers had been published out then it would be considered as final.
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October 24, 2022, 08:43:50 PM |
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Damn, technical error can't be a reason to cut his winnings and offer lower rewards. It is the job of the tech team to control all possible errors, and attacks instead of blaming the winner and refusing to pay. Hiring a lawyer and looking for legal action looks like the only way for the company to pay promised reward as written on the conditions.
if the player has all the tangible proofs that he won on that day, he has big chance of winning this case. also, if the numbers are posted as the winning lottery numbers and it corresponds to the lottery ticket of the person. then, definitely he has valid proof of being a winner. he needs to find a good lawyer to get his winnings. the technical error is not his problem being wiped out in the system, because the winning numbers were already published on that day and fortunately the player has it. cheating in gambling will always be here and i don't think it will be totally eradicated for good.
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October 24, 2022, 08:50:56 PM |
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I think he will win it. The fact that the company is offering him money means there is legitimacy in his claim, there must be proofs of his win that's why he won't budge at the offers given to him. Now, the gambling company will have more problems after he wins this case. Reputation is first. Instead of just paying the man, they took the risk of going this far so now their business will be in danger too.
I have not experienced this yet and I wish to never do. Why do they do it? Well, when it's about the money anything can be done. But sadly, in this case, they are not looking at long term profits.
The gambling casino has obviously at fault in this so they have to pay the gambler on his winning bet because that’s the right thing to do. Otherwise, if the casino continue to act like a scammer and continue to be greedy on their part, well they will lost their business in the long run because other gamblers will definitely most likely not to gamble their money at this certain casino. Losing their reputation will mark the end of their business.
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October 24, 2022, 09:01:28 PM |
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In my opinion, the company offering him smaller amounts of money in the court is a positive indicator forthe gambler, because the company is indirectly accepting the fact the man is right in demanding his prize when they offer him money, although they refuse to pay the whole prize. The question is, why is the company denying him full payment if they are willing to pay 29,900$?
If it were a technical error, the casino wouldn't be offering him a single penny!
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Many are asking for a link or the screenshot of the news but so far OP is not providing anything until now, he even had it in his title A disheartening true life winning story if this is a true story you should provide the source because this is considered a scam, I read a lot about online casinos not paying but not yet a lottery company because lotteries are under strict guidance by the government or they will be strip of their license to operate and they will get a lot of criticism and lose sales.
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October 24, 2022, 09:49:47 PM |
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Can this guy win the case?
If the guy is having evidence then I believe he will win, since the casino is trying to compensate the guy then they believe if they are charged to court he will definitely win the case that's why they just want the case to die down. Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
I haven't experienced this before probably is because I use a reputable gambling site or because I haven't win big amount before, most of my wins are small amount that a gambling site won't want to lose their reputation because of the amount. Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
I think the gambling site is not a reliable site, no matter how big the amount you win, I don't think a reliable gambling site will hold your funds if you don't go against their rules and regulation. I think the gambling site see the guy's win as massive one and they can't really afford to pay the winner that huge amount of money.
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I read the same news which I believe is not in the news paper but in an online news outlet... Here is the link https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/money/1499198-man-plays-bet-n50000-wins-n727-million-company-refuses-pay/According to the article, the man in question won on two different lotto plaform. From premier lotto - he won 48 million naira which they paid him. From Green lotto - he won 72 million naira which they(green lotto) have refused to pay. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5SVM5Qb.png&t=665&c=2pUViZl1Y2zBHw) The man is indeed very lucky wit the winnings, and I hope he wins the case and green lotto hand his money over to him.
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October 24, 2022, 09:56:17 PM |
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Yes can if this guy have a proof and the law court in his country are fair. Before you play on an online lottery, you must to be a research the site to see if they have proof of payment of the winner's. I personally have never experienced it in an online lottery, because I always research before starting. So If I win they always paid, maybe the amount of wins is also small.
He's got the proof and that's why they've tried to pay him lower than his winning amount. The court should really be fair on this one and they shouldn't be bought out by the casino. There are many silent cases like this that they're forced by the casino to pay little when they think that the winner has won it cleanly and legitimately. This case is different since the winner can spend that much and willing to spend his time and money for it. Good luck to him and hoping that he'll get his outright money.
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October 24, 2022, 10:04:52 PM |
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Can this guy win the case? yes he can win the case as it is a lottery and if he has the winning ticket and if the lottery company announced in public who the winner was then the court can ask some tv channel for the video showing that his ticket and the winning ticket, but the problem with that is that this is going to be a very lengthy process because the company can go to another court whenever they lose and the guy who won is going to spend a lot of time and money to recreate the amount he won, maybe make a fair deal with the lottery company Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real? well, in my case i only use online casino Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? the reason is very simple: because the guys want to keep the players' money, just like the people from the scam casinos What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
this is the government's job
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October 24, 2022, 10:09:33 PM |
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Can this guy win the case?
It depends on the evidence he has. If he has strong evidence, he probably wins the case as long as the court is fair enough and serious to learn the case. Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Never. Rarely won, but always got the prizes once winning the games. Maybe they were small prizes, so the gambling company gave them easily. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
Only an untrusted gambling company that refuses to pay. I am sure there will be no refuses if we win the games on a reputable/trusted gambling company. That's why it is necessary to analyze the reputation of the gambling company first before we decide to gamble there. What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Be aware to choose reputable/trusted gambling sites or gambling companies. There are too many options, just avoid those which have bad reputations.
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Can this guy win the case?
I have my doubts that the man will prevail in court. If the business that paid him so much decided to settle the dispute without going to trial, they may still pull off an unexpected maneuver in court and prevail. Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning? Maybe the casino will go wretched when they give out such amount to him. Some companies just entice people with offers that are not realistic to win and even themselves the company; don’t worth such amount.
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Many are asking for a link or the screenshot of the news but so far OP is not providing anything until now, he even had it in his title A disheartening true life winning story if this is a true story you should provide the source because this is considered a scam, I read a lot about online casinos not paying but not yet a lottery company because lotteries are under strict guidance by the government or they will be strip of their license to operate and they will get a lot of criticism and lose sales. If it’s already with the court, I’m sure they will handle this properly and address the issue. Not paying because of the system problem of the company is not a good excuse, most probably there is something more behind that and they have to provide more documents to the court to prove it. I’m also wondering if this story is true, nevertheless we should aware what to do if something like this happened to us.
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