A disheartening true life winning story

[dezoel]

Interesting that the company offer him money right after the guy attempted to report them. This tells that the gambling company is guilty for not paying the money. If this happens to some gamblers I think they are willing to accept the offer because for them it is better than nothing but our views about it will be bad.

The winner is supposed to get his full winnings not just a fraction of it and what if the same act happens to other gamblers? This company can repeat the same modes. Their company needs to be shutdown before it happens. I salute this guy in the story, that he didn't get tempted for the small amount but he wants a real justice.

[Wakate]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

This is really a big money and I don't think the gambling platform has that kind of fund to pay him because paying him that money can make them go bankrupt which is one of the reason why many casinos leaving the gambling world because of bankruptcy. Well I don't know what will be the outcome because this is a big case that need lots of information and prove for the person to finally win the casino.
I still don't know why the gambling company does not want to pay the winning amount because that money is not too big for them to pay their customer.

[milewilda]

what a bizarre and unusual case
lotteries make a lot of money, why they'd refuse to pay? would totally break confidence for future games.

let's hope justice stays in the side of the guy who won...

One winning payment decline would really be over for their business which people would flock away because they do already have that bad reputation.Its totally over.
They might be able to get out of the situation but the reputation that had been tarnished would really be permanent and this is where they do really end up
on closing if there were people wont be putting up their bets.
Its impossible that they wont really be able to pay up winnings considering on how many and how big amounts that they would accumulate overall.
If they refuse on paying up the winnings then they shouldnt have run a lottery on the first place.

[piebeyb]

Can this guy win the case?

I think he can win in my country, because the law in my country can be paid where people who have enough money can win it, but unfortunately gambling is strictly prohibited in my country

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

most of what I hear on social media a lot is also paid for from lottery companies and maybe you are finding this story which is also sometimes unpublished

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

usually such companies don't have that much money and only play their users' money, but we also don't know the real case here I'm not siding with lottery winners or lottery companies it's just that I hate it if any lottery company or gambling site doesn't pay our money or hold our money

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

his steps were correct, namely to go and take legal action if gambling is legal in his country and the law can also be purchased in his country, as an experience always make sure to play in a place that has a good reputation as well as legal so that it is easy to process through legal channels if there is a company that does cheating like this

[alegotardo]

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Can this guy win the case?
This depends on how dishonest the site administrators are, what the reputation and size of the company is, and also how well their cash flow is.

Has anyone ever experienced not getting paid for their real wins?
Luckily I've never faced something like this, I think it's because I've never earned such a high amount

Why would they take your big money but refuse to pay big wins?
There were probably two reasons: The first is that they didn't believe he would go that far and now they are not willing to give in and assume the mistake for fear of losing more clients/players. Second, because they do not have this money, it is necessary to know how the company's financial position is doing.

What could be done to permanently contain this cheating in the game?
Betting on sites that have a good reputation is a good start, second is betting on sites where you can audit bets in a decentralized way and store the results yourself.

[Strongkored]

Can this guy win the case?
For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

If gambling is legal in the country then there is a good chance for him to win the lawsuit he did, and he should get the money without a doubt.

The gambling company believes not guilty (based on the news you include) but strangely they multiple times offer to pay but with a lower value than the player won, because the steps taken by the gambling company are enough to indicate that they have withheld the player's money, which means refusing to pay with the actual amount.

[justdimin]

Can this guy win the case?

I think the guy can win the case because he look so dedicated to take this case in the court and then the lottery company also offer him money to stop him.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

It happened to me before on a faucet/gambling site. The winning is kinda big but when im about to withdraw it, it says pending. I've waited for more than a day. I return to the site and I wonder my account were logged out so I login in again but I can't do it anymore.

I suspect that they ban my account without letting me know the real reason.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

I don't know, maybe because they are a scam? Or should I say doing a selective scamming only since their site is still active until now and some users are not complaining.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

We can try to report them. If only I have the money I will do what the guy did in the story. I wouldn't mind wasting energy and money but what important for me is that I can take my revenge and the scam site will be close down.

[Oasisman]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

He have a higher chance to win this case, most especially if he have secretly documented that moment when the gambling company has offered him money to take back his charges against them. That alone could be used as a huge evidence that the gambling company did something wrong.
Database malfunction is also a hard thing to believe on especially if there were a lottery result already. It is the gambling company who will be held liable for any database malfunction and they're obliged to pay the winner regardless.

[EarnOnVictor]

What actual proof does he have that he won this amount?

It's clear that he has some undeniable proof. This is now a court case, there will be a thorough investigation. They will have to grant access to their internal server, and expects would be engaged in that service to unfold irregularities and what the company might be covering up. Also, the company is liable since they offered him money in police station nad with the gambling board.

This story reminded me the importance of decentralized platforms... I think all centralized platforms should prepare to become decentralized platforms one day because we have no other way to get rid of such problems.

If such like decentralization could be achieved in gambling and exchanges, it would have been best. This would increase trust as no one will be able to steal your money unauthorized.

The gambling casino has obviously at fault in this so they have to pay the gambler on his winning bet because that’s the right thing to do. Otherwise, if the casino continue to act like a scammer and continue to be greedy on their part, well they will lost their business in the long run because other gamblers will definitely most likely not to gamble their money at this certain casino.

Unfortunately, penalties are mostly not meted out on erring companies like this in my country, corruption and politics are everywhere. Nonetheless, the judiciary here is trusted to some reasonable extent, and I am sure the guy would be vindicated.

[Jating]

Again, if this will cornered media attention in your attention in your country, then for sure the companies should be meted out with penalties or worst even the owner should be put to jail because of the way they handled the situation and not giving out the pay to the winners.

And for the person, vindication will come and it will be a bitter sweet. Hopefully though, there will be no free loaders as for sure his relatives will suddenly comes out and ask for free money because of his winnings.

[Daltonik]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

Deception and fraud are quite common in national lotteries, since the system is not transparent and closed, that is, there is a temptation for manipulation in this area, it may also turn out that the winners actually represented may be just figureheads, and this is of course sad.

[Cryptomiles1]

What i noticed is that i don't think if the company has such huge amount of money to pay and they are looking for a way of shortening the payment which is why he was offered that Sum of $26k maybe there was lots of winning which the company can't afford to pay all and his winnings. But i wonder's why they aren't transparent enough to inform him about their out of funds which might have been put into consideration to pay partly or within a short time frame.

1. He might win the case but the company may not pay his winning at a go
2. The payment might not be huge as the initial because they could be out of fund.
3. If the bettor who won the game is not financially balance, he might lost the case because i know how the Nigerian system works.

[madnessteat]

^

The idea is that if a gambling company does not have that kind of money, they should limit the maximum possible winnings at the software level. The fact that they deleted the winnings information shows that they are trying to cheat this guy. It will be very difficult to prove that he really won, but if he has money for good lawyers, he could win in court and get his winnings, albeit with a delay. 

[ethereumhunter]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

He have a higher chance to win this case, most especially if he have secretly documented that moment when the gambling company has offered him money to take back his charges against them. That alone could be used as a huge evidence that the gambling company did something wrong.
Database malfunction is also a hard thing to believe on especially if there were a lottery result already. It is the gambling company who will be held liable for any database malfunction and they're obliged to pay the winner regardless.

But not many people will realize that they have to document the moment to turn it into evidence that will help them in court later. And if they can get full evidence to show at trial, that could prove that the casino really did wrong and should pay for it. It's very rare cases of database crashes occur in casinos because we're talking about huge cash flows and how casinos can profit if they don't count it in their database. But I don't know, we as ordinary people don't know the truth. But hopefully, this case can be finished well.

[l3pox]

Interesting that the company offer him money right after the guy attempted to report them. This tells that the gambling company is guilty for not paying the money. If this happens to some gamblers I think they are willing to accept the offer because for them it is better than nothing but our views about it will be bad.

The winner is supposed to get his full winnings not just a fraction of it and what if the same act happens to other gamblers? This company can repeat the same modes. Their company needs to be shutdown before it happens. I salute this guy in the story, that he didn't get tempted for the small amount but he wants a real justice.

well, that was their try to bribe the guy and saving some thousand dollars of the prize
hoping the guy wouldn't have the guts to proceed
maybe if they offered 50% or even 80% of the prize the guy would accept, but not so little compared to what he won.

[aioc]

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

This is both fraud and stealing and the regulators should stop their operations, this is the first time I read that a winner was refused his prize because of an error when the result comes out it is final, they will end up paying more because the complainant can ask for additional damages, another surprise is the defendant pleaded not guilty, even if the case drags on the complainant is assure of victory that is if the complainant will not settle for less.

[goldkingcoiner]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

Its exactly these reasons why we need drop centralized gambling and make decentralized gambling (with provably fair, audited protocols) the new norm. Gambling companies think they can get away with everything and its disgusting to see when they do get away with it.

As far as the guy is concerned, I doubt he will be able to win his case unless he has some hard proof which they have not been able to wipe away, quickly. As far as your question to why anyone would take your money and refuse to pay you your winnings, the answer is simple: because they can. And they have absolutely no moral qualms about screwing you over, if they can. But that goes for all businesses, not just gambling.   

[freedomgo]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

I believe these things really happening in reality but just rarely or the lottery company were able to pay a much lower amount compared to what is won while threatening the man/woman to be silent as they won't even win the case even if they were to file a case. Anyway, reading the story made me furious and saddened on the man's behalf because he wasn't paid the right amount, the lottery company was already guilty when they tried to bribe him.

One thing is for sure, that man will win the case because I bet the court will make an example for these company. There's enough evidence to confirm that the man has won the lottery but the company chose to neglect him.

[jrrsparkles]

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

Honestly speaking, if he is not rich and living in a country where corruption always wins then I don't think he can win the case even if he company can't make him to lose they can drag the case for years and they shut everything silently by giving money to the people later. This is really annoying thing happen when we are lucky and unlucky at the same time.

About the question you asked

1. Personally I didn't faced anything which maybe fortunately or unfortunately.
2. Money is the reason
3. Every casino either its offline or online should be regulated to operate but obviously it can take away the privacy still we can put the money is on higher priority list for most of the people.

[ralle14]

Can this guy win the case?

There's a good chance for him to win the case based on what happened and hopefully, he gets every single amount of his winning and not just a portion.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

I experienced it a few times when the sportsbook overturned my winning tickets as their provider was faulty at that time.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

There could be different reasons why casinos don't pay big wins, most casinos usually have a max win amount so they could only pay up to a certain amount regardless of the money their players put in. Or they don't have enough bankroll to pay the user. In online casinos, it's because of the terms and conditions as most casinos would require KYC whenever big winnings are involved.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

There needs to be some sort of authority in their place that keeps casinos in check so there'd be a much more convenient way to resolve those kinds of issues.