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November 04, 2022, 03:26:22 AM
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As announced by Roycilik at the Indonesian Local Board, the loan will be borne by the heirs to pay off to DarkStar_.

In the case of accounts payable between Pandukelana2712 and DarkStar_ with the approval of both parties (the lender and the loan recipient) there is no third party (one of the family members of the loan recipient) who is a key witness to the occurrence of the lending and borrowing transactions. The good news is that before he died (the recipient of the loan) had made a will to his friend to pay his loan to the lender.

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Hari ini ada dewo_sat menghubungi saya untuk meminta tolong bahwa ada temen dia di forum ini sudah meninggal dunia dan dulu sempat menitipkan sejuamlah uang (Rp. 8.500.000)yang katanya untuk membayar hutang kepada salah satu member di forum ini (mungki member yang di maksud adalah DarkStar_)

According to the information we found on the Local Board, this case has a bright spot. One of the guides friends 2712 has managed to contact Roycilik to help pay off the debt.
Now he is trying to raise money according to the trust reference in the account pandukelana2712.

Setelah menimbang, memikirkan dan berkonsultasi kepada beberapa teman saya tentang hutang-piutang; maka saya berketetapan untuk membayar 0.064 BTC dalam bentuk FIAT-IDR sesuai dengan referensi trust di akun pandukelana2712.

Pembayaran akan saya bayarkan kepada rekening bank yang diminta oleh bang Roy Cilik, tetapi saya perlu beberapa hari untuk mengumpulkan uang sejumlah tersebut.

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November 04, 2022, 07:15:55 AM
Last edit: November 04, 2022, 11:56:34 AM by dewo_sat
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Did it get paid?

Condolences to pandukelana2712's family MHSRIP .

Talking of loans and death, I want to believe that mostly if they are big loans the loaner can choose to give them out with a collateral but for non collateral loans it could end up as bad debt that the loaner will have to write off unless another family member is aware of such they could reach out to have this settled.

Just out of curiosity how did this information reach the forum of his  passing, if loan is big maybe this could reach his/her family to try settle his book's.... In some cultures this is what happens. REST IN PEACE CHAMP.

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I heard good news from His Friend.
Next week, dewo_sat as pandukelana's mandate promise to pay off the debt to darkstar, maybe not directly send to lender, but by middle man (roycilik), I don't know exactly how many, with interest or just a tree.


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According to the information we found on the Local Board, this case has a bright spot. One of the guides friends 2712 has managed to contact Roycilik to help pay off the debt.
Now he is trying to raise money according to the trust reference in the account pandukelana2712.

Setelah menimbang, memikirkan dan berkonsultasi kepada beberapa teman saya tentang hutang-piutang; maka saya berketetapan untuk membayar 0.064 BTC dalam bentuk FIAT-IDR sesuai dengan referensi trust di akun pandukelana2712.

Pembayaran akan saya bayarkan kepada rekening bank yang diminta oleh bang Roy Cilik, tetapi saya perlu beberapa hari untuk mengumpulkan uang sejumlah tersebut.

And today I've paid to Roycilik with IDR, equal with 0.064 BTC nowday.


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FYI: Saya sudah menerima dana sebesar 20.500.000 atau setara sekitar 0.064btc dari om dewo_sat, sayang nya akun beliau belum bisa di recovery (lupa pasword)


Saya akan segera menghubingi darkstar untuk menyelesaikan permasalah hutang piutang Almarhum
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Hopefully DS will forgive me.  

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November 05, 2022, 08:00:55 PM
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I am assuming OP tried to ask what will happen died with a loan from the forum. Because his loan will default here automatically in case of death. Yes, it's pretty much a hard question. So this will be a p2p loan, not from the forum actually. So now depends on the lender if he wants to give it up or expect funds back. Also, it would possible we won't notice who died actually if we don't know in real life. So lender would think the borrower defaults on the loan if he isn't sure about death. There is no solution actually if the borrower doesn't tell his family to return lend amount.

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November 05, 2022, 08:50:16 PM
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I am assuming OP tried to ask what will happen died with a loan from the forum. Because his loan will default here automatically in case of death. Yes, it's pretty much a hard question.
His death can be confirmed by his family or forum friends as some previous users have done for Bruno.

Hey guys. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just found this:

https://www.everhere.com/us/obituaries/nv/las-vegas/bruno-kucinskas-jr-10682556

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March 4, 1960 - April 8, 2020 (60 years old)
Las Vegas, Nevada
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It is with great sadness that we announce the death of Bruno Kucinskas Jr. (Las Vegas, Nevada), who passed away on April 8, 2020, at the age of 60, leaving to mourn family and friends. Leave a sympathy message to the family on the memorial page of Bruno Kucinskas Jr. to pay them a last tribute. You may also light a candle in honor of Bruno Kucinskas Jr..

He was loved and cherished by many people including : his parents, Bruno Kucisnkas Sr. and Juanita Kucinskas (Wonderly); his daughter Apryl Kusinskas of Minnesota; and his siblings, Bruce Kucinskas of Lafayette, Bryan Kucinskas of Sandwich Illinois, Belinda Slagle (Brenda Honn) and Beth Basurto of Oswego.

Thought you should know.

There is no solution actually if the borrower doesn't tell his family to return lend amount.
There is no definite solution, but the negative tag is always justified for anyone who defaults loan without any information. In fact today all the negative tags on the pandukelana account have been deleted or changed, but this was done after the loan was paid off thanks to the help of two friends.

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November 05, 2022, 11:11:45 PM
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People don't like to share any relations with a poor dead person but you would find a whole lot of persons claiming to have some relationship with a rich dead person. Maybe not consciously for some but the purpose is always about debt and inheritance.  There are some poor guys that might have landed property past down through generations but most times, what they leave behind is debt and you would find almost no one, willing to take up the responsibility of paying off in the event of a non collateral loan.
When it comes to a rich guy, there is always something to share from money to properties in assets and all. An irony no doubt as to how the world works.

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November 05, 2022, 11:42:13 PM
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There is sad news in our local forum, a member who has active in long time ago died. ~ pandukelana2712 ~

I do not know exactly him even have read his post and his thread. so what makes me interested is, what happen with his lending, does he still have to pay?, give it up?.

I don't think so, because in my habit, if someone died, usually a lot of people on neighbors give it up,
but another financial company ask for heirs to pay it off.

Thanks alot.

If you read the below post by roycilik, you will understand that different people have their cultures and way of life. We are all gathered here but from different countries, races and tribes with different norms. While in some cultures, anyone could be dishonest and go away with it. But in the culture of roycilik and the deceased, it is obligatory to repay debts.
I think there are still sane cultures and those of us from such backgrounds shouldn't betray it in internet.


To be honest, Darkstar has asked me to give the money to the Pandukelana family, but it is an obligation in our place that the debt must be settled first, also dewo_sat said the same thing. And now it's up to Darkstar what to do with the money.

Thanks to Darkstar (:

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November 08, 2022, 01:58:08 PM
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I think there are still sane cultures and those of us from such backgrounds shouldn't betray it in internet.
True and in fact, there are some people around the world who have kind and really care about others. The lender Darkstar is Noble hearted to give up the money for his family. I used to have bad thoughts about forums that think 80% filled by bad people. but, I was wrong, there are still a lot of good people like an angels who very care to each other.

Actually, this thread for general case, but because I begin with pandu name and was fixed, I have to lock this thread, and will continue it open when happen again with other people in the same case.

Thanks a lot for your are kindly posts.
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