Food prices in Germany - Tell me what you want to know

[Lucius]

What's happening in Russia? Do they say that Germany is in a huge trouble? Or that Germans are freezing? Or that Germans aren't able to buy a fuel? Or do they say that there are blackouts in Germany?

It is much colder in Russia than in the rest of Europe, where temperatures range between 0-10 degrees Celsius in Ukraine, and between 10-20 degrees Celsius in the rest of Europe. Temperatures are more like spring than winter, which is just a continuation of above-average warm winters.

On the other hand, the US and Japan are exposed to heavy snow and cold, and the question is whether these cold fronts will reach Europe.

[virasog]

We have the same issue here in Canada. You can say that compared to 2019 prices your grocery bill has doubled. Or very close. Those inflation numbers aren’t accurate because it works like this.

Say for example

Break went up 10%
Coffee went down 10%

According to that calculation it would mean inflation is 0%. And there are some items that haven’t changed in price like Bananas and that is also keeping inflation figures down. But in reality you are paying double for your food these days.

This situation is everywhere and there is no country where we do not see inflation. In some countries, it is more while in others it is less. The prices of commodities have increased a lot as compared to previous years and economic experts are saying that this is just the beginning. The situation may go severely bad in 2023 and beyond.

Every person is finding it difficult to meet his /her daily needs. People's wages are not increased as compared to the prices of food and other necessary items.

[Synchronice]

economic experts are saying that this is just the beginning. The situation may go severely bad in 2023 and beyond.

Economic experts are bunch of dickheads who sit in a warm place and never experience the harshness of the economic crisis. They show up with a calm face and talk how severe it will be for everyone. If you are an expert, then work on fixing of the problem instead of just throwing bunch of negative statements with a calm and satisfied face.

[Cryptodebjoe]

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Other countries affected by the war between Russia and Ukraine were Germany and the Netherlands,
in the netherlands too
two-thirds of the cooking oil in the Netherlands comes from Ukraine and Russia.
So it's not surprising that their country was also affected, maybe the Netherlands and Germany had to look for oil supplies from other countries.
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I beg to differ a bit it's not really entirety about the Russian and Ukrainian war because this war has been on for long if you DYOR you will see that sometime between August and September the subsidy discount that was  put for fuel was removed and an additional 9euros ticketing was added to transportation and when this happens it will invariably affect the price of food stuff... Also in Europe Germany is the 2nd largest exporter of agricultural products with about 70 billion USD coming behind only Netherlands with about 78 billion USD so internally they could mitigate food challenges thus it can only be traced to the fuel fee and additional ticket price. Thanks

[Ultegra134]

If you compare your Lidl prices with Greece's for similar items, you'll notice tremendous differences, with Germany being cheaper. On top of that, if you're comparing the average salaries between the two countries, it's absolutely unacceptable for Greece to have such outrageous prices for everyday goods.

That's probably why the whole EU comes here to work A lot of people from Hungary, Romania, Italy, Czech, Spain, Albania and other countries come here to work.

Here in Germany, 1kg banana costs 1.09 Euro, 1kg Chicken - 10 Euro. There are 2x more prices on these products too but to be honest, unless you are addicted to bio products, you can't find a big difference between the quality and taste

Bananas were on sale at Lidl last week for €1.19/kg, they typically go for €1.49/kg, while chicken fillet is also around 9 to 10 euros per kilogram. I remember buying it for €6-7/kg a year ago. As the previous poster also mentioned, inflation numbers are highly inaccurate; some prices are even double what they were. Unfortunately, prices are unlikely to even decrease in the future.

Germany is indeed quite a popular immigration destination. As much as immigration might be a solution, I'd hate to do it. The issue with countries like those you've mentioned is that wages are low even for qualified people, and those entering the job market now, after finishing universities and degrees, are unlikely to get a job that will pay accordingly.

[Smartprofit]

The problem is they have been so awesome for decades that even slight bit of discomfort sounds like agony to them, while people who had worse inflation even on their best year, are facing something that is acceptable to them because they grew accustomed to it.

I am not a German (not living there either) but since I have close family members there and visiting them few times per year, I met my share of Germans and I have to say that they are mostly financially responsible and hardworking people. So when you are living in one of the most developed countries in the world, having a well paid job and tend to save the money (and Germans do like to save) when/if shit hits the fan you will adjust much easier than someone already barely surviving on his salary and without safety cushion.

But you are right about something though, people in countries like Russia are used to shitty standard of living and its beyond me how country with such natural resources can have lower standard of living than some of the poorest EU countries (for example Croatia where I am from), and people there being ok with it.

Some experts attribute the low standard of living in Russia to its vast territory. 

Such a huge territory with a very harsh climate is very difficult to manage.  To resolve all issues of logistics and energy supply, a strong centralized authority is needed. 

However, such power very quickly degenerates into autocracy and tyranny.  China has similar problems.  China is not a very large country in terms of its territory, but a very large and difficult country to manage in terms of the number of inhabitants.

In totalitarian countries, the standard of living is always lower than in democratic countries.  In this sense, Germany is in a very advantageous position.  The territory of Germany is large in area, but small enough to successfully solve all logistical issues.  German citizens are disciplined, intelligent and educated people.

In addition, the inhabitants of Germany are vaccinated against the ideas of fascism.

[Rikafip]

Some experts attribute the low standard of living in Russia to its vast territory.  
Such a huge territory with a very harsh climate is very difficult to manage.  To resolve all issues of logistics and energy supply, a strong centralized authority is needed.

How those experts explain Canada not having such issues, and is among the most developed countries in the world despite a harsh climate, huge territory etc? The same can be asked about Australia as well. So yeah, if you ask me that's just an excuse and nothing else.

In addition, the inhabitants of Germany are vaccinated against the ideas of fascism.

Well they were manipulated in the past as well (as did many others) but I guess they learned their lessons. Something that people in Russia unfortunately failed to do.

[Smartprofit]

Some experts attribute the low standard of living in Russia to its vast territory.  
Such a huge territory with a very harsh climate is very difficult to manage.  To resolve all issues of logistics and energy supply, a strong centralized authority is needed.

How those experts explain Canada not having such issues, and is among the most developed countries in the world despite a harsh climate, huge territory etc? The same can be asked about Australia as well. So yeah, if you ask me that's just an excuse and nothing else.

In addition, the inhabitants of Germany are vaccinated against the ideas of fascism.

Well they were manipulated in the past as well (as did many others) but I guess they learned their lessons. Something that people in Russia unfortunately failed to do.

Australia is a large island or even a continent.  Governing such a country is quite simple.  

This is a former natural prison for English convicts.  For example, during the Covid-19 pandemic, the Australian authorities imposed a ban on entering and leaving Australia.  Thus, they successfully stabilized the situation with the spread of the virus.  

The worst thing is not the low standard of living, but the willingness of the citizens of countries to come to terms with it.  If people are ready to give up a normal standard of living for the sake of some speculative concepts (for example, imperial greatness), then this means that a catastrophe has occurred in the country!

That is why the citizens of Germany and Europe, in my opinion, should never put up with the deteriorating standard of living.  We must believe that everything will be fine and the situation will improve soon.

[hZti]

Australia is a large island or even a continent.  Governing such a country is quite simple.  

This is a former natural prison for English convicts.  For example, during the Covid-19 pandemic, the Australian authorities imposed a ban on entering and leaving Australia.  Thus, they successfully stabilized the situation with the spread of the virus.  

This applies exactly for russia too, since it is not made up of states that can set their own rules. Also the country is just massive so this would also stop people from moving around. If you look however on countries in Europe, you have many people that would work 30 mins away in a different country, so it was basically impossible to have people locked in in just one country to stop covid. Russia has systematic issues, that are based on corruption and low levels of education. The problem is that there is no need for a change, since they can keep up their low living standards with the sale of oil and other natural resources. Other countries need to adapt fast, because they dont have these resources, but russia has simply no need to adapt.

[lizarder]

I'm hearing from some people here and there that today there is a cooking oil deficit in Germany, food prices have skyrocketed and German's aren't able to buy food, there is cold everywhere and and so on and so forth.

I see how the price of basic necessities has increased in almost all countries, not only cooking oil but all basic necessities have skyrocketed and are even hard to find on the market. Coupled with news from companies or groups hoarding these basic needs and starting to smell in the media, this behavior is really very painful for us to hear. Markets always tend to be controlled by certain parties, policies as regulations are unable to stop bad people from committing these crimes.

The fact is that all these needs are not experiencing scarcity, but because certain parties are playing to make profits in times of recession or disaster. The case you mentioned has the potential to occur as we experienced, the high price of cooking oil due to scarcity and there is a possibility that it was deliberately made to seek profits for those whose access is closer to regulations.