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June 09, 2023, 09:43:57 PM
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but now, the project developers are something else and they have the mindset of scam even before building the project.

You are not really describing anything new... yeah sure the problem seems to be worse with some projects as compared with others in terms of whether any of the raised money ends up getting spent on actual development rather than hookers, lambos and blow.

There's a bit of a disincentive for the receivers of the money to actually development if they receive $millions and even $100s of millions without hardly any strings attached and hardly no one to hold them accountable.. to the extent that they might have had started out with actual integrity to actually try to do the thing that they said that they were going to do with the money.

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June 11, 2023, 07:15:03 PM
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I think it is a very good tactic than holding a coin that is new and not listed on CMC or in coingecko, CMC is a very good apps to track a coiin to know the records the marketcap etc., So if we are buying a top 10 listed coin CMC that is more secure than a new coin but still we need to take care because many coins are deleted on cmc for some reason always DYOR.
In the current situation, I think the word "DYOR" is too much of a last resort to make things that are actually risky seem normal.
For example, when in Shitcoin and getting instant profits there we always say that it is a very good thing when following the hype and maximizing profits there but on the other hand when we are trapped in that, of course the same reason continues to repeat itself and is considered normal because of the word "DYOR".
Even if it does say that as a reminder that we should research further but that doesn't mean it can be used for all conditions I think.
Being in shitcoin many times and continuing to fail as if everything is okay because of DYOR I think it really becomes a condition where everything seems to repeat itself and those who do it never understand and learn further that being there only costs time, energy and money. The high expectation of the shitcoin pump sometimes always blinds the eyes that something like this even though I wouldn't say this is wrong but I think it's a little bit inappropriate.

DYOR should translate into figure out bitcoin your bitcoin strategy first before even considering investing into shitcoins, and if you invest into any shitcoin, be really sparing in regards to the shitcoin(s) that you choose.. and perhaps some DYOR might help, to the extent that pumpamentals can even be figured out - if anyone is investing based on pumpamentals.. or if they come to the conclusion that some kind of a shitcoin has long term staying power and they have a possible long term investment into that shitcoin based on its ability to have long term staying power, and yeah if a lot of shitcoins are being invested into, then surely it might not be possible (or easy, or practical) to DYOR on each of the coins, so we likely realize that people are not really engaging in DYOR... especially if they have not even figured out bitcoin first, because if they figure out bitcoin first, they may well realize that they do not need to DYOR on various scam projects that are in the space (whether in the top 10 or further down the CMC list of shitcoins).

That's how it should be, but sometimes it seems like DYOR is a bit of a ruse nowadays because everything feels normal even if we make mistakes over and over again just because the word DYOR seems to be a defense.
Pumpamentals  Roll Eyes I love this word lol. But when it comes to shitcoin I'm still the same as my previous view because it's not an investment but a gamble with the hope of "pumpamentals" as you said so there's no need to find a lot of excuses with the word DYOR or whatever because projects like this won't last long considering it's just hype.
In being in a coin like this with the word Investment I think it is too much because regardless it is gambling with style and DYOR there is just a classic excuse that is only an excuse when the shitcoin that is believed to be pumped does not go well.

In the current situation, I think the word "DYOR" is too much of a last resort to make things that are actually risky seem normal.
For example, when in Shitcoin and getting instant profits there we always say that it is a very good thing when following the hype and maximizing profits there but on the other hand when we are trapped in that, of course the same reason continues to repeat itself and is considered normal because of the word "DYOR".
Even if it does say that as a reminder that we should research further but that doesn't mean it can be used for all conditions I think.
Being in shitcoin many times and continuing to fail as if everything is okay because of DYOR I think it really becomes a condition where everything seems to repeat itself and those who do it never understand and learn further that being there only costs time, energy and money. The high expectation of the shitcoin pump sometimes always blinds the eyes that something like this even though I wouldn't say this is wrong but I think it's a little bit inappropriate.

When talking of investment sometimes I sees it to be as something we don't really planned for it but rather wanting to invest since the news around keeps flying coin z is doing well so people who are easily attracts with much profits would eventually dive into without taking an appropriate measure or to determines if they could bear the lost when the investment turned against.
I still feel that it is a mistake when we talk about Investment but have no prior planning.
Careful planning starting from the condition of the financial division, the target where we will start and where we will stop must be seen from the beginning because this in my opinion is like a prerequisite when we want to do it well. When doing without planning from the beginning and just entering I think it's the same as betting.

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Sometimes we can classify investment to be a 50/50 game because you and I might not foresee the future of the project but we are only and always optimistic of being positive that something good would come out of the project, and if it happens that it doesn't go according to how we planned and predicted possibly ran into lose then the slogan of "DYOR" takes effects without knowing and people thinking that something like this is inevitable and may happened to anyone out there.
Now in this case we also have to realize that even though investment will not always go well because it is in bitcoin alone still has conditions where we are still uncertain whether it will go well or not but of course we have to see what projects we see because indeed if only projects centered on memecoin or shitcoin are getting more and more for now I still feel that there is no need for further research on this because indeed the conditions will still remain the same, namely pump and exit quickly because projects like that will not last long.


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June 13, 2023, 05:56:34 PM
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When talking of investment sometimes I sees it to be as something we don't really planned for it but rather wanting to invest since the news around keeps flying coin z is doing well so people who are easily attracts with much profits would eventually dive into without taking an appropriate measure or to determines if they could bear the lost when the investment turned against.
I still feel that it is a mistake when we talk about Investment but have no prior planning.
Careful planning starting from the condition of the financial division, the target where we will start and where we will stop must be seen from the beginning because this in my opinion is like a prerequisite when we want to do it well. When doing without planning from the beginning and just entering I think it's the same as betting.
There are several points that I can get in this regard and for the first I agree with saying that we must have careful planning when investing because as you said this is how we manage our finances, of course in this case we must have good planning from the start because it would be very stupid if we did invest without any planning and preparation.
On the other hand, talking about the shitcoin discussed in this case which of course still relates to the top 10 coins there, of course we also realize that it is a condition where many people are comfortable with the coins that are there but in the end it remains the same actually bitcoin is always being the beginning and the end there is nothing else than that, as for the other numbers, even though there are many opinions, they return to conditions where this depends on themselves, although in this case the good advice is, of course, to stay in bitcoin, not with the others.

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Sometimes we can classify investment to be a 50/50 game because you and I might not foresee the future of the project but we are only and always optimistic of being positive that something good would come out of the project, and if it happens that it doesn't go according to how we planned and predicted possibly ran into lose then the slogan of "DYOR" takes effects without knowing and people thinking that something like this is inevitable and may happened to anyone out there.
Now in this case we also have to realize that even though investment will not always go well because it is in bitcoin alone still has conditions where we are still uncertain whether it will go well or not but of course we have to see what projects we see because indeed if only projects centered on memecoin or shitcoin are getting more and more for now I still feel that there is no need for further research on this because indeed the conditions will still remain the same, namely pump and exit quickly because projects like that will not last long.


Investment is a form that has risks and whether you realize it or not, things like this cannot be changed.
As you said, just being in bitcoin for now obviously doesn't mean we will get a definite profit because indeed this is only hopeful by looking at the progress in bitcoin but that doesn't mean the possibility of profit is certain here.
Even though it's like that, of course for this it's worth it for bitcoin because we know the track record for them as for the others, especially shitcoin, it's not wrong to say it's gambling in the hope that there will be whales pumping there and of course this is not recommended but if it is still intend there I might emphasize that the word investment was omitted because indeed these are 2 different things when looking at shitcoins and saying investing there is in my opinion wrong because indeed it only depends on luck to bring them to hype not the belief that they will be profitable.

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June 15, 2023, 05:51:32 AM
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As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.

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June 15, 2023, 06:23:16 PM
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There are several points that I can get in this regard and for the first I agree with saying that we must have careful planning when investing because as you said this is how we manage our finances, of course in this case we must have good planning from the start because it would be very stupid if we did invest without any planning and preparation.
On the other hand, talking about the shitcoin discussed in this case which of course still relates to the top 10 coins there, of course we also realize that it is a condition where many people are comfortable with the coins that are there but in the end it remains the same actually bitcoin is always being the beginning and the end there is nothing else than that, as for the other numbers, even though there are many opinions, they return to conditions where this depends on themselves, although in this case the good advice is, of course, to stay in bitcoin, not with the others.
Because it can be said that it is the initial foundation for us in starting to invest or anything related to the future that we hope for.
However, planning is important and we must always remember that a plan is one of the most vital things that must exist, even though sometimes in this case we also cannot expect it to always be good but at least as long as there is planning that we do then we will still stay on track without deviating and fixing unexpected conditions without having to start from scratch.
When indeed being in bitcoin has been planned from before with the condition that we are ready with the knowledge that we continue to learn and others that support it, of course we will be a little better than deviating from the original plan when we want to be in bitcoin but are distracted just because we see the pump in shitcoin.

As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.
I understand and I quite agree with desvirifaction it is something that is quite important but in other conditions when saying bitcoin is too expensive forever maybe you will continue to lag behind in my opinion.
Indeed in this case when looking at the price bitcoin is clearly the single most expensive when compared to the altcoins you said but that doesn't mean there is no way to buy it. We are also not required to buy 1 bitcoin or even more than that at once, therefore there are strategies that are carried out such as when we buy by means of DCA or wait in the current decline.

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June 15, 2023, 10:07:09 PM
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As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.

That's a weird take.
What do you mean Bitcoin is expensive compared to others? What metrics are you looking at? Price per coin, market cap?
If I offered you a newly created token at $0.01 each would you buy it just because it's "cheap"?
Sure, it's possible that some altcoins will go x10 or more overnight, but that will not happen for all of them (many will drop to zero and die). And unless you can predict exactly which of them will pump and when (which you can't) then, historically speaking, holding BTC is a much more profitable option, as explained somewhere at the beginning of this thread.

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June 15, 2023, 11:33:53 PM
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As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.
People would be thinking up on this kind of moment on which they would be realizing that getting x2 or x3 on Bitcoin would really be hard nowadays but come to think that we do still have that bull run and on ever 4 year cycle which means that we cant really be able to tell on how far it would really be able to achieve into those years but i cant really blame out people on looking into other alternatives on which they
would literally be finding up ways on dealing with altcoins or on other top ranking coins in the market.

Even myself do really make out some diversification on some top ranking coins on my port on which i didnt really go all in with Bitcoin. We know that diversification do really make out that kind of
possible benefit when the market do make out some bull run. We cant really be able to tell on which one would fly and which one would really be left behind.
If you do put up on the right spot then profits would be something that significant.

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June 16, 2023, 01:19:39 PM
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I have been loyal with holding to 10 marketcap coins but right now seems not good tactic, right now many bad news coming from every where and cryptocurrency easy dropped to lower price when getting bad news. Last three weeks I invested with BNB coins when price above $320 and right now dropped drastically under $230. Its my mistake when holding with top 10 marketcap coins but before investing in BNB still hold another top 10 marketcap coins but price still drop under 30%.

But not all top 10 marketcap coins is bad tactic for holding because another my holding Ethereum success raise to higher price, my investment entry with ETH when price drop on $1,200 and still hold right now waiting for back to all time high price. Do your own research when holding with top 10 marketcap coins before have wrong tactic which one potential coins have to hold and not.

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June 16, 2023, 08:54:42 PM
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I have been loyal with holding to 10 marketcap coins but right now seems not good tactic, right now many bad news coming from every where and cryptocurrency easy dropped to lower price when getting bad news. Last three weeks I invested with BNB coins when price above $320 and right now dropped drastically under $230. Its my mistake when holding with top 10 marketcap coins but before investing in BNB still hold another top 10 marketcap coins but price still drop under 30%.

But not all top 10 marketcap coins is bad tactic for holding because another my holding Ethereum success raise to higher price, my investment entry with ETH when price drop on $1,200 and still hold right now waiting for back to all time high price. Do your own research when holding with top 10 marketcap coins before have wrong tactic which one potential coins have to hold and not.
Holding a coin which is at a strong fundamental level or strong market capitation is absolutely not in doubt, whether it's bnb or eth or any other coin that is top 50 cmc, of course there's nothing to worry about friends. The downward rally has become a normal thing and I don't think you need to worry because bnb will definitely go up again this year or next year and the current decline is the effect of falling btc prices. Coins that have strong fundamentals like bnb, of course, their price movements follow the price of btc.

Yes, I also hold a few coins for now, but I don't feel that things are burdened in my mind about this decline because I am accumulating coins in the DCA way and I'm sure that one day the price of the coins we buy will have a significant upward rally. Well one thing that I might stay away from is coin memes because they have no development or product that would allow us to hold them in our portfolio.

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June 16, 2023, 09:48:17 PM
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I have been loyal with holding to 10 marketcap coins but right now seems not good tactic,

It's hardly ever a good tactic. Altcoin pump is usually delayed compared to Bitcoin and alts are the first to drop. They also tend to tank harder than BTC + the composition of the top 10 keeps changing over time, so if you want to stick to this tactic, you'd have to rebalance periodically, which also generates costs/losses.
Meanwhile, despite all the bearish news, Bitcoin's dominance has risen to over 48%. I remember some experts saying around a year ago that BTC will unlikely cross 40% and that it'll be losing dominance over time.

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June 17, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
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As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.

The altcoin’s opportunity to rise is same as the opportunity to fall. I mean altcoins are very risky if we hold it in our wallet. These coins are basically millions in number, and hence they always fluctuate in price. Yes buying the top 10 coins listed can reduce the risk of getting losses, but still the risk will be equivalent to make you lose half of your money in couple of days. Bitcoins and Ethereums are according to me are the best coin for slow investment. Their marketcap is also high and we also know how the coins behave.

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June 18, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
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I have been loyal with holding to 10 marketcap coins but right now seems not good tactic,

It's hardly ever a good tactic. Altcoin pump is usually delayed compared to Bitcoin and alts are the first to drop. They also tend to tank harder than BTC + the composition of the top 10 keeps changing over time, so if you want to stick to this tactic, you'd have to rebalance periodically, which also generates costs/losses.
Meanwhile, despite all the bearish news, Bitcoin's dominance has risen to over 48%. I remember some experts saying around a year ago that BTC will unlikely cross 40% and that it'll be losing dominance over time.
People can't really predict the world events and that was based on the past like every prediction. When fundamentals on some high cap alts are as bad as now, it's natural that people will focus on coins without a company or funding behind them. I recon that people will soon start to trust alts again as nothing new happens for a while. These court cases will take so much time that be might be over next bull cycle before there's any kind of result available. Which side will end up winning this is anyone's guess.

As investors we have to divide money into many types of investment types, like we know that bitcoin is already very expensive compared to others, so a good opportunity is to buy altcoins, the opportunity for altcoins to rise is 10x greater than bitcoin because most altcoins are cheap, and of course it's a good idea if we hold the top 10 rankings because it's safer.
"10x"? That number is not based on anything. It's true that lower caps have more room to grow, but that only applies if they have any future to begin with. And no one knows if they do.


I have been loyal with holding to 10 marketcap coins but right now seems not good tactic,
It's hardly ever a good tactic. Altcoin pump is usually delayed compared to Bitcoin and alts are the first to drop. They also tend to tank harder than BTC + the composition of the top 10 keeps changing over time, so if you want to stick to this tactic, you'd have to rebalance periodically, which also generates costs/losses.
Meanwhile, despite all the bearish news, Bitcoin's dominance has risen to over 48%. I remember some experts saying around a year ago that BTC will unlikely cross 40% and that it'll be losing dominance over time.
Depends, i remember when eth was high on the marketcap, people thought it was too high to move as much as lower caps. Turned out that there was so much room to grow and ETH ended up being the most profitable altcoin, even when it started from top. Top was relative to todays marketcap, but we don't know what the cap for highest marketcap will be.

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June 18, 2023, 09:37:02 PM
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It's hardly ever a good tactic. Altcoin pump is usually delayed compared to Bitcoin and alts are the first to drop. They also tend to tank harder than BTC + the composition of the top 10 keeps changing over time, so if you want to stick to this tactic, you'd have to rebalance periodically, which also generates costs/losses.
Meanwhile, despite all the bearish news, Bitcoin's dominance has risen to over 48%. I remember some experts saying around a year ago that BTC will unlikely cross 40% and that it'll be losing dominance over time.
Depends, i remember when eth was high on the marketcap, people thought it was too high to move as much as lower caps. Turned out that there was so much room to grow and ETH ended up being the most profitable altcoin, even when it started from top. Top was relative to todays marketcap, but we don't know what the cap for highest marketcap will be.

If you're referring to the time when ETH was getting really close to Bitcoin's No. 1 position and the "flippening" looked like a probable scenario, when BTC had ~38% market dominance compared to ETH's 31% - then I have a slightly different memory of that time. I remember that had a massive positive impact on ETH's price as a lot of people, who didn't really care about ETH too much, started buying it just to hedge against the mentioned flippening (there was a huge hype around that, with flippening-watch websites popping up etc.). So I don't think that ETH's fall from that 31% was a result of people thinking the market cap was too high, but the other way around - because it was getting high, it allowed it to get even higher to the peak of 31%. But eventually, all hypes die out.

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June 18, 2023, 11:50:05 PM
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It's hardly ever a good tactic. Altcoin pump is usually delayed compared to Bitcoin and alts are the first to drop. They also tend to tank harder than BTC + the composition of the top 10 keeps changing over time, so if you want to stick to this tactic, you'd have to rebalance periodically, which also generates costs/losses.
Meanwhile, despite all the bearish news, Bitcoin's dominance has risen to over 48%. I remember some experts saying around a year ago that BTC will unlikely cross 40% and that it'll be losing dominance over time.
Depends, i remember when eth was high on the marketcap, people thought it was too high to move as much as lower caps. Turned out that there was so much room to grow and ETH ended up being the most profitable altcoin, even when it started from top. Top was relative to todays marketcap, but we don't know what the cap for highest marketcap will be.

If you're referring to the time when ETH was getting really close to Bitcoin's No. 1 position and the "flippening" looked like a probable scenario, when BTC had ~38% market dominance compared to ETH's 31% - then I have a slightly different memory of that time. I remember that had a massive positive impact on ETH's price as a lot of people, who didn't really care about ETH too much, started buying it just to hedge against the mentioned flippening (there was a huge hype around that, with flippening-watch websites popping up etc.). So I don't think that ETH's fall from that 31% was a result of people thinking the market cap was too high, but the other way around - because it was getting high, it allowed it to get even higher to the peak of 31%. But eventually, all hypes die out.
Lots had been anticipating for that situation about ETH is about to reach up BTC domination in the market but it did end up on not to happen and still bitcoin was still dominant in the market. About those altcoins

below on which it would really be having that interchangeable position on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be shuffling and of course it would really be depending on the demand.
We've seen that some of projects had been kicked out of the rank and there are ones who do able to climb up on the ladder and make themselves placed into those ranks.

Good tactic? Possible because most of those projects placed on the top ranks are good ones. Although this market had suffered extreme correction but still these coins do able
to hold up their position which does simply shows that they are really that indeed a good project which does have strong support and other fundamentals.

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Maybe for others that's a good tactic, but for me it can be the others that are in the top 10, I agree that it's really good to hold in the long-term. But not everything is okay for me. Because in my opinion there is nothing in the top 10 that is better to hold than those.

And for sure what I think and do, they may be doing and thinking too. Because there are many other altcoins in this industry that they also think can provide better profits in the future, although there is risk, but the investors who do this will definitely be willing to take a risk here.

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June 22, 2023, 03:34:39 AM
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Most people only hold 2 or 3 coins so when market conditions are red like last week of course it makes asset values continue to decrease, as an investor who focuses on cryptocurrencies I suggest holding lots of coins, of course there are lots of altcoins that we can choose from and I think hold top 10 ranking even though it is safe but difficult to profit from, investing in new projects is also a very profitable option.


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June 23, 2023, 03:28:21 PM
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Logically holding coins that have a large marketcap is of course safer than holding new projects, as investors of course we understand this strategy, for security of course holding top 10 rankings is a safe and profitable option, but we have to be patient and wait a long time to be able to get profit when we hold the top 10 ranking.
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Logically holding coins that have a large marketcap is of course safer than holding new projects, as investors of course we understand this strategy, for security of course holding top 10 rankings is a safe and profitable option, but we have to be patient and wait a long time to be able to get profit when we hold the top 10 ranking.

By that logic, isn't holding top 5 a better option than holding top 10. And top 3 better than top 5? And top 1 better than top 3?

Again, holding BTC only was so far more profitable than top 10 and that's not even including losses on rebalancing of the portfolio, which are greater when there is a lot of action/changes in the top 10.

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Holding of top 10 marketcap coins is both, good and bad tactic. For example, Profit-wise, we can talk about coin called Polygon or Matic. This coin is a coin that actually solves the problem and is useful, unlikely Dogecoin or Shiba or Pepe.
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June 24, 2023, 11:53:21 AM
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Good tactic if you want to invest safely and comfortable,
because big marketcap is hard to dump without bad news and of course you can't expect up to 2x pump in the short term either,
but if you want to have more profit then you have to be brave enough to invest in low cap projects .

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