A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust

[robelneo]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

I will be very disappointed the least that you can expect or the worse thing is being betrayed by your friend but I will not take physical revenge this is just money but I will make sure that our circles of friends know how he treats his friends if possible if there is a piece of evidence I will charge him of estafa or fraud because there is deceit in his part, I have never done this all my gambling time sharing a bet with a friend because I know the consequences either you'll have an argument and this will hurt your friendship, always bet alone and let no one knows if you win, being discreet is very important in gambling.

[Taskford]

It will be a big problem if Charles will chase him trying to claim half of the winning amount. It's only a slip, there will be no proof of Charles's claim that he has a part of the bet amount.
Even if it goes to court, he will not win.
All he could do is ask Kelvin about being a true friend. Maybe make a dramatic script and just try to take back the ROI and maybe some win if he will be touched with the scripted dialogue.  
Break that friendship afterward, and learn from the mistake.

I hope there will be some proof of their partnership I mean that they both have the agrrement that whatever may happen they will get the half half of the jackpot, but if not he can talk to Kelvin it is really sad seeing your friend being so selfish about the the thing that you must have as well.

Money can change people so he must be glad that money show the true color of his supposed to be friend. Maybe if he don't have a chance to change the mind of that guy maybe he should start to move on and avoid him. For sure there are lot of opportunity to win that again so its really better to avoid toxic or fake friends since you can't trust them on any means.

[electronicash]

It will be a big problem if Charles will chase him trying to claim half of the winning amount. It's only a slip, there will be no proof of Charles's claim that he has a part of the bet amount.
Even if it goes to court, he will not win.
All he could do is ask Kelvin about being a true friend. Maybe make a dramatic script and just try to take back the ROI and maybe some win if he will be touched with the scripted dialogue. 
Break that friendship afterward, and learn from the mistake.

I hope there will be some proof of their partnership I mean that they both have the agrrement that whatever may happen they will get the half half of the jackpot, but if not he can talk to Kelvin it is really sad seeing your friend being so selfish about the the thing that you must have as well.

Money can change people so he must be glad that money show the true color of his supposed to be friend. Maybe if he don't have a chance to change the mind of that guy maybe he should start to move on and avoid him. For sure there are lot of opportunity to win that again so its really better to avoid toxic or fake friends since you can't trust them on any means.

its not time to be a pussy and trust already broken. charles would be very angry just as anyone who lost a huge amount because of a friend who stole from him.

heck a plan is to be executed. stake out and wait for kevin to go out of the house and knock him out in an ambush.
seize any money you can find in the house. damn it, this is a raid!   

[Mr. Magkaisa]

To build trust on someone takes time and  sacrifice, you have someone that you trust so much because they know this,they end up disappointing you in a way that might be unforgivable because of money.

There are two friends Kelvin and Charles,they have similar likes and have being gambling and predicting results of matches together. One day Kelvin and Charles studied a game together for some days and finally, it was the game day,so these two friends instead of playing separately decided to put their money together to bet big so that the win will also be bigger. After betting since Kelvin and Charles have been friends for long, Charles didn't bother about who will keep the game slip and so the slip was with Kelvin.

Four hours later,the game was played, the game came out as predicted and these two friends got a big win of $120K. Charles before the game started,fell asleep and woke up two hours after the game ended,believing whatever happens,his friend Kelvin will notify him. Kelvin noticed the win and checked on Charles at home to find out that Charles is fast asleep.

Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

- What I don't like most of all is that someone who is considered a friend, brother, or family will let it be destroyed just because of money. Because trust is more than money or wealth or in other words priceless.

  Now, if I were in Charles' situation, of course, I would confront Kelvin, I would talk to him properly, and I would ask, why did he manage to destroy my trust in him as a loyal friend just because of money? because he is my friend I know his situation in life before he came to the luxurious life and know if it was because we won a gambling game and he can't deny it because he suddenly disappeared and didn't make me feel anymore and he left me?

  If he apologizes, I will forgive him because who am I not to forgive,  Now, if he doesn't ask for forgiveness and he refuses, maybe the only thing I can do to him before we part is to give him a big blow.

[darkangel11]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

So Kelvin had no house, no apartment, no family in the state where he leaved near Charles? That's strange. You can't simply run away to another state overnight. All my friends know where I live, where my parents live, what car I drive... It wouldn't be that simple to pack my bags and leave, especially that the house that I live in is more expensive than 100k. It would take weeks to finalize the sale and move and at that time I'd have to be going back and forth between cities.


If he somehow managed to run away and I found out, I'd confront him. First I'd try to call him or contact him somehow and demand at the very least a return of my part of the bet. If he's a scumbag with the win let him be a scumbag, but he stole from me and I'm coming after that. If he wasn't very far from my place I'd visit him once a week and ask for my money. I'd take a few friends with me and hit him up during family dinners, grills, parties. We'd come in like guests, tell everyone that he owes us money and we want to collect, ask the guests how they feel partying with a thief and a liar and so on. Usually people want to settle somehow when you're persistent enough.

[noormcs5]

To build trust on someone takes time and  sacrifice, you have someone that you trust so much because they know this,they end up disappointing you in a way that might be unforgivable because of money.

There are two friends Kelvin and Charles,they have similar likes and have being gambling and predicting results of matches together. One day Kelvin and Charles studied a game together for some days and finally, it was the game day,so these two friends instead of playing separately decided to put their money together to bet big so that the win will also be bigger. After betting since Kelvin and Charles have been friends for long, Charles didn't bother about who will keep the game slip and so the slip was with Kelvin.

Four hours later,the game was played, the game came out as predicted and these two friends got a big win of $120K. Charles before the game started,fell asleep and woke up two hours after the game ended,believing whatever happens,his friend Kelvin will notify him. Kelvin noticed the win and checked on Charles at home to find out that Charles is fast asleep.

Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Is this a real story or just a makeup story? We see such stories in the movies where a friend wake up to see another friend has left the city and for some unknown reason he could not be found?

Obviously, the person who is living in one city has friends, family and doing business or a job, how can he leave everything and move to another city in few hours? Secondly, he must have his wife, brothers, and sisters who must be also living in the same city and he would have in contact with them, so it is in the real world it is not possible that a person can disappear so easily.

However, if this really happens, then I won't be surprised, because, in the current world, money is more important than anything. People can leave their friends or even family for money.

[Cling18]

Money, as the root of all evil, can reveal the true colors of a person no matter how close you are to each other. It can break friendships and relationships. If I were Charles, I will just let karma do its way to teach Kelvin a lesson. I know that no matter how luxurious his life becomes, he will still be bothered by his conscience. I will move on with my life and take a lesson with me that even our closest friends will betray us when it comes to money. That I shouldn't trust anybody when money is involved.

[Mahanton]

Money, as the root of all evil, can reveal the true colors of a person no matter how close you are to each other. It can break friendships and relationships. If I were Charles, I will just let karma do its way to teach Kelvin a lesson. I know that no matter how luxurious his life becomes, he will still be bothered by his conscience. I will move on with my life and take a lesson with me that even our closest friends will betray us when it comes to money. That I shouldn't trust anybody when money is involved.

Temptations when it comes to money is really likely on which no matter how close you are or shall we say your closest friend there's always a tendency that betrayal would really be there.Im not into those words that money is root of all evil yet we can't really avoid the fact that we are needing this thing for us to survive on everyday living.Once you do experience this stuff then you would definitely have a hard time on trusting up someone ever again.As for the situation which he neither be going after or would just let it be and move on.People would really be exchanging up their loyalty and trust when we do talk about huge sums of money.

[adzino]

If you are saying this is a real story that you heard, then you might be stupid to believe this. There is no state were you can live in a "big house" and lead a luxurious style with only $120k. You won't even be able to afford a house with that amount of money, let alone leading a lavish life. If the first guy used and deposited his money too in the account, he can just report it to the cops saying that his money was stolen. It wouldn't be hard for the cops to find him (unless the guy plans to escape the country which again is impossible with only $120k).
Anyway, you shouldn't blindly trust anyone. Money changes people!

[348Judah]

Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

Some people can never be predicted untill you yest them with money, friend of twenty can turn enemy within some seconds just with betrayal for money, now i think Charles has learnt his bedt lesson of life just in a hard and disheartening way, he will never forget this as it will still remain a mystery to him to believe what kelvin has done.

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Nothing can be done about this than for Charles to take his fate and leave kelvin alone to spend the whole money, one thing is sure, money will finishee one day but good friends remains, but later in future, it could have been too kate for kelvin to realize his mistakes after things would have gone wronged, no legal action can charlse take against such since the slip was with kelvin, but destiny will always fight against kelvin for charlse sake.

[KTChampions]

Is this real or just a story?

Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.

Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.

Absolutely delusional story from beginning to end - the author did not even come up with a reason why they made a "joint" bet, and did not bet like normal people separately. The situation with money is also unclear - judging by the fact that they bet on one game, they were already high rollers and they had some money. And another thing that hit me was the "big house in another state." Apparently it's not about the USA, otherwise what kind of state is it where for 120k dollars you can afford a big house (presumably not in the forest)?

[acroman08]

Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

just curious, where is this story located? I am assuming since you mentioned "states" it is in the USA. if it is, $120k dollar is not enough to live a luxurious lifestyle. unless Kelvin and Charles are already pretty well off before Kelvin decided to screw Charles.

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

all he can do is confront Kelvin. if he files a lawsuit against Kelvin, Charles would need to prove that they have an agreement that they would split the money if the bet won if they can't I am afraid that it won't go well for Charles.

[ralle14]

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Most likely go after him since $120k is too big of an amount to let go for most people just because you're friends. Then again, it's so dumb to rely on someone when you could've placed the same bet on your own.

all he can do is confront Kelvin. if he files a lawsuit against Kelvin, Charles would need to prove that they have an agreement that they would split the money if the bet won if they can't I am afraid that it won't go well for Charles.

I agree it wasn't specified, if the bet was placed at a betting shop then it's unlikely for Charles to gather some evidence to back his case but if it's done online then Charles could use their online transactions as the evidence.

[Gozie51]

Of course I will go to him to look him in the eyes and tell him his wrong and maybe he could remit some. But if you have already started to make it then you can let go and allow nature to punish him because there will be punishment for betrayal.

Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness,

Nothing wrong with trusting someone. This is even an avenue to trust when both friends put head together to forecast a game but it is now a lesson

bet separately.

This is the point and this is where the problem started. They have no need to bet together. If they had the bet differently, they would have still had substantial amount differently to themselves.

[panganib999]

I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.

[iv4n]

I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.

I guess that is "Buda way", things happen for a reason, and we need to accept them and move on. I would probably choose that way, I would accept "my" mistake, and I would let it go... but it's me. I know people who would act in totally opposite ways, even with less money at stake.

OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!

[decodx]

I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.

I guess that is "Buda way", things happen for a reason, and we need to accept them and move on. I would probably choose that way, I would accept "my" mistake, and I would let it go... but it's me. I know people who would act in totally opposite ways, even with less money at stake.

OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!

A friend should never be treated that way, no matter how much money is at stake. You lose a little bit of your faith on humanity when friends turn their backs on you. Money shouldn’t be the most important thing in your life; it should be secondary to love and friendship. But really, after something like this, you can only move on and try to avoid making the same mistakes. You can't let people get under your skin and hurt you.

[Eureka_07]

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It depends. I would probably ask him to pay me the money that he robbed from me. If things didn't went well according to my will (which is getting it) and his approach to me is not appropriate, I would get upset and chance is I will sue him.

Anyways, is this a true story? Where did you got it?

[Jemzx00]

OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!

Based from the story the OP provided, it looks like he is Kelvin and just wanted to vent out here on the forum for what he did to his friend. He mentioned "me" referring that he is Kelvin on the story. I think is having a hard time fighting his conscience to what he did.

Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me,

A friend should never be treated that way, no matter how much money is at stake. You lose a little bit of your faith on humanity when friends turn their backs on you. Money shouldn’t be the most important thing in your life; it should be secondary to love and friendship. But really, after something like this, you can only move on and try to avoid making the same mistakes. You can't let people get under your skin and hurt you.

I don't really think that they are really that kind of friend as they only share a common interest on gambling, based from my understanding. Also, you don't know how people really react with huge amount of money not only to their friends, but rather to their loves one.

Anyways, Charles can try to find justice by putting this on court as long as he can provide proof about the shared funds they use to gamble.

[Twinkledoe]

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It depends. I would probably ask him to pay me the money that he robbed from me. If things didn't went well according to my will (which is getting it) and his approach to me is not appropriate, I would get upset and chance is I will sue him.

Anyways, is this a true story? Where did you got it?

But how can you sue him in this case? You have no papers or other hard evidence showing you gave him money for the bet? I don't know the law on this aspect but a lawyer maybe can find a way how to get your share. Since he already ran away, it means, he has no intention of sharing the winnings to you. Better consult a lawyer how to proceed a case because they may have ideas on how to get your share from him.