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December 04, 2022, 10:02:48 PM
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That's probably just a thought and we'll never know unless someone who works for a casino tells that they're doing it but for now, I think that they're not doing it.
But there's a sort of idea that whenever someone has been winning a lot, regardless of his location, there goes the algo that they might have detected it and they start to lessen the chance of winning. At least this is only for luck-based games and we all knew that it's not going to be a lucky day forever.

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December 10, 2022, 03:07:45 AM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
If you mean the casinos are rigging the slots so player can't "win" more than certain amount  (after which they will start losing), then yes, that would be illegal and would be considered as scamming. If you are talking about the RTP, then it is same for everyone and the casino can set the RTP. But I doubt any slots would "restrict" or not let users from certain country win. Too much work and not worth the risk. Why would a casino destroy their reputation if they are the one that always win in the long run?

Well, I think you found out what it was about, I also think the same, I think that one of the things that sometimes leads people to pernsara is because they are from third world countries, because generally they always have some kind of prohibition or always because some business can be blocked a bit for being from that type of country, however I think that is something that has no place here in casinos, I think that every casino should be as transparent as possible for everything, and more so in slots , because I think it's one of the highest incomes they have in a casino, well the other games too, but slots are the main thing I think and I don't think they have a bad reputation for restricting earnings to people from certain countries.


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December 10, 2022, 05:58:11 AM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I don't think that casino was using algo to limit how much it can be paid out for certain location. The casino was also tracking your IP. How much they can pay to the winner totally depends on the how much liquidity that owned by the casino. The casino will be trying to pay based on what they can afford if you got maximum jackpot. The casino was always using geolocation that determined by IP. Im sure that casino has been thinking about that.

That's why some countries getting prohibited while there are countries being allowed by the casinos. that's why KYC verification will play a lot in this case.

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December 11, 2022, 02:30:04 PM
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days ago I saw someone commenting on this and I even thought: "if a casino were limiting the amount that the customer can be paid in a game, wouldn't that be something illegal or manipulation?" in my opinion I don't see why a casino would do that, considering that the casino can put in its TOS that each customer can make a bet of X amount at most or it can also put in its TOS that at a maximum withdrawal each person can withdraw Z amount. so the casino doesn't need to be manipulating the games, they have ways that are ethical and legal that they can follow if they know they don't have a big bankroll to pay when some whale wants to make a big bet

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December 16, 2022, 08:00:02 PM
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The slot games don’t have any algorithms is my opinion it may vary to your opinion. But not our all opinion will be the same. So we no need to worry on this. Some guess on this like their will be some hidden algorithms for the gambling. Many people use the same IP and get captured by the casino companies. Then their will be loss of funds from them. Because the site will ban the accounts of multiple ip with multiple accounts. So it’s better to avoid using of multiple accounts for the gambling sites. Why should we loss the funds we had won by the hard work to the game in the league.
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December 16, 2022, 08:31:50 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
What I know is that some casinos restrict certain regions, but for the issue of limiting how much a user from a particular region can win is what I have never heard of before, and I don't think any reputable ought to do such an act, because if a user is allowed to deposit any amount of money then why should such user be restricted from how much he/she can play or win? It will be literally unfair doing so. Moreover, we have VPN that changes a users location, or will they still be able to identify even with the use of VPN?

 
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December 16, 2022, 08:44:29 PM
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The slot games don’t have any algorithms is my opinion it may vary to your opinion. But not our all opinion will be the same. So we no need to worry on this. Some guess on this like their will be some hidden algorithms for the gambling. Many people use the same IP and get captured by the casino companies. Then their will be loss of funds from them. Because the site will ban the accounts of multiple ip with multiple accounts. So it’s better to avoid using of multiple accounts for gambling sites.

If we'll try to cover up our locations by using VPNs or creating multiple accounts, we are already breaking the casino's TOS and it will affect our gambling journey in the future. It's something that we should be mindful of. If we are using a reputable casino, there's an assurance that they aren't using any algorithm just to limit the number of players in a single location. I have never encountered a casino like that. They can track your location but will never ban you for no reason
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December 16, 2022, 09:25:34 PM
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Uhhmmmm yeahh, ofcourse every casino has a different interface and ways of operation.... They also have their principles of management, and that their T/C's...
Most of them aren't registered and licensed; they' just built a site and began a business deal and could decide to offer way more odds than the normalized ones; might be because they ain't spending much on maintainance but I'm not sure that their operations are being monitored.
So when it happens like this, they'll limit the preference of wagering much lest it'll just exceed their paying limits..

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December 16, 2022, 09:26:38 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
Every country have a gambling regulatory institution manned with the responsibility of  regulating the activities of all gambling companies that operates within the country. And am sure each country has different amount of maximum payouts stipulated to gambling site and depending on the country the player is playing from the maximum in Mr "A" location might look like a limit from Mr "B" location based on currency value differentiation.
For I haven't come across anything such thing as illigal dispute due to an amount  money paid to a winner from a gambling company. All you will need to do is to show the local authorities your winning coupon code from the company site you won the money from showing that the said amount paid into your account was from illigal deal but a win from gambling site, and case closed.

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December 16, 2022, 09:36:17 PM
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What I know right now is maybe only about regional restrictions and indeed that has been felt because for my area there are several sites that are indeed inaccessible and I feel that way. but i just heard about restrictions regarding players winning in one of the regions. But the possibility is small, even if this is true, of course this will not be published, even though I am not too sure about that. Because if it's like that, of course there has to be a clear reason and this is gambling. I think this only depends on luck, not a matter of restrictions on whether you win or not.

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I doubt they will arrange RTP based on user locations, if website is fully legal on that territory then it shouldn't be problem for casino to get into trouble with legal authorities, IMHO. Unless it is stated on terms&conditions, it is not acceptable for slot provider to accept this condition. Just my 2 cents.

i haven't read something like this also. rtp varies from location to location. well, we don't know the ultimate truth behind gambling business. but i am more on the site that it is not like this. practice like this will come to light if this is really happening. but so far, it maybe just a speculation of some players. but no basis at all.

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December 16, 2022, 09:51:49 PM
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days ago I saw someone commenting on this and I even thought: "if a casino were limiting the amount that the customer can be paid in a game, wouldn't that be something illegal or manipulation?" in my opinion I don't see why a casino would do that, considering that the casino can put in its TOS that each customer can make a bet of X amount at most or it can also put in its TOS that at a maximum withdrawal each person can withdraw Z amount. so the casino doesn't need to be manipulating the games, they have ways that are ethical and legal that they can follow if they know they don't have a big bankroll to pay when some whale wants to make a big bet
Casino never set win bet limits and limits for withdrawals in TOS, but if high withdrawals of winnings are not paid or postponed then surely they do not approve those withdrawals or divide the withdrawal into several stages to determine minimum withdrawal limits, in case of high withdrawals from large bets it has happened to a low reputation casino site until finally they don't pay it and the reputation of the casino is assigned a scam status.
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December 16, 2022, 09:56:46 PM
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You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
I believe that it couldnt really be happening nor a possible thing for those slot providers on having that kind of alteration of codes or changing up just because they are trying out to avoid such legal issues later on?

No, they wont really be risking out their reputation for that because if we do speak about legal issues then the certain user would be the ones who would really be filed upon with those things and not to be focused

on the provider.If a certain player hits big and win bigtime then they are really that obliged to pay up the winnings, and the rest would really be entirely be depending
on how that someone be able to play if there are some restrictions.

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December 16, 2022, 11:22:07 PM
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I doubt they will arrange RTP based on user locations, if website is fully legal on that territory then it shouldn't be problem for casino to get into trouble with legal authorities, IMHO. Unless it is stated on terms&conditions, it is not acceptable for slot provider to accept this condition. Just my 2 cents.
I haven't heard anything like this where a casino will based their RTP from its user's location. As far as I know, online gambling platform only care if their gamblers are from a restricted country which is why they implement strict rules for VPN and KYC to avoid restricted countries from gambling on their site. Also, they aren't that afraid on local authorities as especially if they are a legitimate platform as they can show proof such as those KYC documents they request most users that has huge withdrawals.

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I'm not sure of such issue happening with the gambling platforms. But, similar things of rigging could happen with platforms that focus on scamming the users. I've seen people making comparison between different times zone having difference in the win probability. I'm not sure, this is just a coincidence or something that is happening out of the algorithm based on which the games were developed.

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I'm not sure of such issue happening with the gambling platforms. But, similar things of rigging could happen with platforms that focus on scamming the users. I've seen people making comparison between different times zone having difference in the win probability. I'm not sure, this is just a coincidence or something that is happening out of the algorithm based on which the games were developed.

Rigging? possible as we have seen accusations about it in the past, if I remember it correctly, colluding in poker game is one. But not sure how it will it affect the location of the gamblers though. I mean even land base casinos are open 24x7, so doesn't matter what time zones are you playing, because online casinos as well will be open.

The only to be at a disadvantage is that if casinos are not provably fair with their players. But our location has nothing to do with it.

 
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December 17, 2022, 09:09:27 AM
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I'm not sure of such issue happening with the gambling platforms. But, similar things of rigging could happen with platforms that focus on scamming the users. I've seen people making comparison between different times zone having difference in the win probability. I'm not sure, this is just a coincidence or something that is happening out of the algorithm based on which the games were developed.

Rigging? possible as we have seen accusations about it in the past, if I remember it correctly, colluding in poker game is one. But not sure how it will it affect the location of the gamblers though. I mean even land base casinos are open 24x7, so doesn't matter what time zones are you playing, because online casinos as well will be open.

The only to be at a disadvantage is that if casinos are not provably fair with their players. But our location has nothing to do with it.

I guess what OP is trying to say is that there might be some localities that are very strict when it comes to winnings of people, and it might cause an alarm to them as it may be a possible case of money laundering or whatever. I haven't heard of such thing happening honestly, and to tell you the truth the largest winning that I saw a person bag out of the establishment is way upwards of $100,000 in cold, hard cash. No alarms whatsoever, but it was made obvious by the fact that the casino manager himself escorted the winner outside the building holding two bags of money, together with the casino security up to the parking lot. They never do that even to VIPs, just to people who won big at their platform hoping that the hospitality will make them come back and lose that money to the casino again.

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December 17, 2022, 04:37:16 PM
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We will never know what the casinos do with their algorithms, but it could happen considering we play where they are the owners, so they can prevent someone from winning a lot of money. But if the public finds this out, the casino will not be able to avoid it and must accept the sanctions because the casino has committed abuse in its own place. I don't understand why casinos have to do something like that, but maybe it's a way to prevent casinos from losing a lot of money to some experienced gamblers playing at their establishments. But the location will have no effect because casino games cannot be played by people from countries that the casino has banned. Just my 2 cents.

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December 17, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
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I don't know of any algorithm using to limit payouts for players and I don't think any casino will limit tye payout for players and that was KYC was introduced.
I'm sure that before a casino operates in a particular environment or country, they must acquire some certification and proper licensing to back them up must be gotten, this will help to regulate the activities of the casino and if a player wins big on a game provided there was irregularities and the prove of income verification was done successfully ten I see no reason why the government and it's agency would want to bother the casino after acquiring the necessary license.
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December 17, 2022, 05:03:02 PM
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I don't know of any algorithm using to limit payouts for players and I don't think any casino will limit tye payout for players and that was KYC was introduced.
I'm sure that before a casino operates in a particular environment or country, they must acquire some certification and proper licensing to back them up must be gotten, this will help to regulate the activities of the casino and if a player wins big on a game provided there was irregularities and the prove of income verification was done successfully ten I see no reason why the government and it's agency would want to bother the casino after acquiring the necessary license.

Casino license nowadays doesn’t do thorough inspection especially on online casino. They can give a different source code to the auditors that passed there requirements and install different one on actual game since license company doesn’t do a regular audit. There’s a lot of scam casino out there with license yet they still can operate since license provider don’t do thorough inspection one by one.

But the scenario given by OP that limit the payout of user base on the country has no basis and useless like what you explained already that government doesn’t care about the casino once it has license to operate.
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