Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga

[Trofo]

I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.

I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?

Misković is the chairman and owner of the club. And as person that lives in Rijeka but would qualify myself only as casual supporter, I don't have anything bad to say about him. He got Rijeka out of big debts, brought in some good sponsors, made a modern stadium while Dinamo and Hajduk are still playing in ruins... We had bigger aspirations while we still had big money coming from Italy and when it stopped he very realistically talked about club goals. It is our reality to bring in players that need to revitalize their careers and it worked brilliantly for a couple of years. This is the first year when it backfired. You can't always get it right even when you have the budget, let alone when you don't have.

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[Daniel91]

I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.

I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?

Misković is the chairman and owner of the club. And as person that lives in Rijeka but would qualify myself only as casual supporter, I don't have anything bad to say about him. He got Rijeka out of big debts, brought in some good sponsors, made a modern stadium while Dinamo and Hajduk are still playing in ruins... We had bigger aspirations while we still had big money coming from Italy and when it stopped he very realistically talked about club goals. It is our reality to bring in players that need to revitalize their careers and it worked brilliantly for a couple of years. This is the first year when it backfired. You can't always get it right even when you have the budget, let alone when you don't have.

Over the past few seasons, Rijeka has really achieved great results in the Croatian football league and also in European competitions.
They were the only ones who managed to end Dinamo's dominance in the Croatian football league.
However, Dinamo is financially a much more powerful club than Rijeka, and it was unrealistic to expect that Rijeka could take over Dinamo's position as the best Croatian club in the long term.
Everything was clear when at the end of last season they were forced to sell their best player Drmic to Dinamo.
This will be a very difficult season for Rijeka, but I hope that they will survive and recover, for the benefit of Croatian football.

[slackovic]

I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.

I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?

Misković is the chairman and owner of the club. And as person that lives in Rijeka but would qualify myself only as casual supporter, I don't have anything bad to say about him. He got Rijeka out of big debts, brought in some good sponsors, made a modern stadium while Dinamo and Hajduk are still playing in ruins... We had bigger aspirations while we still had big money coming from Italy and when it stopped he very realistically talked about club goals. It is our reality to bring in players that need to revitalize their careers and it worked brilliantly for a couple of years. This is the first year when it backfired. You can't always get it right even when you have the budget, let alone when you don't have.

Over the past few seasons, Rijeka has really achieved great results in the Croatian football league and also in European competitions.
They were the only ones who managed to end Dinamo's dominance in the Croatian football league.
However, Dinamo is financially a much more powerful club than Rijeka, and it was unrealistic to expect that Rijeka could take over Dinamo's position as the best Croatian club in the long term.
Everything was clear when at the end of last season they were forced to sell their best player Drmic to Dinamo.
This will be a very difficult season for Rijeka, but I hope that they will survive and recover, for the benefit of Croatian football.

They will probably survive but I'm not sure if Miskovic will survive. I didn't know that he is also the owner of the club. But even so, as the owner he doesn't have unlimited amount of cash to invest into Rijeka. When that money runs out, it will be game over for him. Of course, I hope that won't be the case and that this season is just a big bump down the road for Rijeka. They will probably choose better players for the next season and I hope they don't miss again.

[Slow death]

Misković is the chairman and owner of the club. And as person that lives in Rijeka but would qualify myself only as casual supporter, I don't have anything bad to say about him. He got Rijeka out of big debts, brought in some good sponsors, made a modern stadium while Dinamo and Hajduk are still playing in ruins...

I don't know him so I can't criticize him, but I must say that the fact that he owns the club and is also the chairman is an exaggeration, he should give the position of chairman to someone else who is very experienced in club management, because from what I see the team's problem is in the limitations that the players have, even if a team is poor, they don't have much money if they get a good coach and that same good coach manages to hire good cheap players but with high talent and who have will to play so they can manage to lead the team to become champions, but most of the time when a small team has good players and some big team comes along offering some good amount of money to buy the good players, the small team sells the players that yes, greed always speaks louder in small teams

It is our reality to bring in players that need to revitalize their careers and it worked brilliantly for a couple of years. This is the first year when it backfired. You can't always get it right even when you have the budget, let alone when you don't have.

these players who seem to be on the team to revitalize their careers are not good choices because they are not there to make the team champion, they are thinking about their pockets, when a team offers them millions of dollars, they will not think twice, they they will accept it immediately, and the team will be harmed once again, I think the team needs to have players loyal to the cause, it has to have players determined to win the league and not just players who only think about having attention to get a better team

[Daniel91]

After a long break due to the world championship in Qatar, it seems that the time has come to reactivate this topic 
In Dinamo, there is a big struggle for power between Mamic and Antolic, and the question is how this will affect the ambitions and results of Dinamo this season.
Dinamo is financially and organizationally the best club in Croatia and in the region, but unfortunately that club is run in a mafia way and it's time to change that.
Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end and the announcement of changes in the club.
There is a lot of money at stake, after the World Cup some players, especially Livaković and Oršić, are waiting for very expensive football transfers, and obviously the owner of Medjugorje wants that money.

[Tumanggor]

After a long break due to the world championship in Qatar, it seems that the time has come to reactivate this topic 
In Dinamo, there is a big struggle for power between Mamic and Antolic, and the question is how this will affect the ambitions and results of Dinamo this season.
Dinamo is financially and organizationally the best club in Croatia and in the region, but unfortunately that club is run in a mafia way and it's time to change that.
Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end and the announcement of changes in the club.
There is a lot of money at stake, after the World Cup some players, especially Livaković and Oršić, are waiting for very expensive football transfers, and obviously the owner of Medjugorje wants that money.

dinamo zagreb has some good players even their goalkeeper (livakovic) performed brilliantly while defending croatia in the world cup

I don't know about the issue that Dinamo Zagreb is related to the mafia, so far I have seen that in the local league they are performing well and dominating the league, but their performance in the champions league is quite bad

Just like the German league, the Croatian league will also return starting in January 2023

[slackovic]

After a long break due to the world championship in Qatar, it seems that the time has come to reactivate this topic 
In Dinamo, there is a big struggle for power between Mamic and Antolic, and the question is how this will affect the ambitions and results of Dinamo this season.
Dinamo is financially and organizationally the best club in Croatia and in the region, but unfortunately that club is run in a mafia way and it's time to change that.
Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end and the announcement of changes in the club.
There is a lot of money at stake, after the World Cup some players, especially Livaković and Oršić, are waiting for very expensive football transfers, and obviously the owner of Medjugorje wants that money.

dinamo zagreb has some good players even their goalkeeper (livakovic) performed brilliantly while defending croatia in the world cup

I don't know about the issue that Dinamo Zagreb is related to the mafia, so far I have seen that in the local league they are performing well and dominating the league, but their performance in the champions league is quite bad

Just like the German league, the Croatian league will also return starting in January 2023

Yeah, Dinamo didn't play that good in the European games this season. But they played good the last season. The problem with Dinamo is that his players don't have enough strong clubs to compete in the Croatian league. It's hard to stay motivated when you are playing against Chelsea on Wednesday and against some local Croatian club in the Croatian league.

I'm sure we will se some changes in the Dinamo's squad after January. I wouldn't be surprised if Orsic and Livakovic leave the club. This could be their last chance to find a good club in Europe where they will be payed much more. And for Dinamo it will mean a struggle to win the Croatian league and compete in the Champions League next season.

[Daniel91]

After a long break due to the world championship in Qatar, it seems that the time has come to reactivate this topic 
In Dinamo, there is a big struggle for power between Mamic and Antolic, and the question is how this will affect the ambitions and results of Dinamo this season.
Dinamo is financially and organizationally the best club in Croatia and in the region, but unfortunately that club is run in a mafia way and it's time to change that.
Let's hope that this is the beginning of the end and the announcement of changes in the club.
There is a lot of money at stake, after the World Cup some players, especially Livaković and Oršić, are waiting for very expensive football transfers, and obviously the owner of Medjugorje wants that money.

dinamo zagreb has some good players even their goalkeeper (livakovic) performed brilliantly while defending croatia in the world cup

I don't know about the issue that Dinamo Zagreb is related to the mafia, so far I have seen that in the local league they are performing well and dominating the league, but their performance in the champions league is quite bad

Just like the German league, the Croatian league will also return starting in January 2023

Yeah, Dinamo didn't play that good in the European games this season. But they played good the last season. The problem with Dinamo is that his players don't have enough strong clubs to compete in the Croatian league. It's hard to stay motivated when you are playing against Chelsea on Wednesday and against some local Croatian club in the Croatian league.

I'm sure we will se some changes in the Dinamo's squad after January. I wouldn't be surprised if Orsic and Livakovic leave the club. This could be their last chance to find a good club in Europe where they will be payed much more. And for Dinamo it will mean a struggle to win the Croatian league and compete in the Champions League next season.

Orsic just left Dinamo for Southampton, thus fulfilling his great desire to play in the English football league.
This will be a big loss for Dinamo because Orsic saved them many times with his goals in the Croatian championship and in European competitions.
For now, nobody mentions Livakovic, so it seems that he will stay in Dinamo, at least until the end of the summer season.
During that time, a real war for power between two factions, Antolić's and Mamić's, takes place in Dinamo, and it will be interesting to see how it ends. 

[slackovic]

Orsic just left Dinamo for Southampton, thus fulfilling his great desire to play in the English football league.
This will be a big loss for Dinamo because Orsic saved them many times with his goals in the Croatian championship and in European competitions.
For now, nobody mentions Livakovic, so it seems that he will stay in Dinamo, at least until the end of the summer season.
During that time, a real war for power between two factions, Antolić's and Mamić's, takes place in Dinamo, and it will be interesting to see how it ends. 

Orsic leaving Dinamo will surely give other clubs like Hajduk and Osijek to come closer to Dinamo and end their streak of five consecutive championship titles. It really is a big loss for Dinamo and it will be even bigger loss if Livakovic leaves. I thought that Livakovic is the one who will leave for sure after his performance at the World Cup, but I guess I was wrong. Maybe Dinamo is asking too much... Currently he is valued at 14m € and his contract is set to expire next year so they have time to sell him. The only problem is that he is 27 years old and he's not getting any younger.

[slackovic]

Hajduk is preparing for the continuation of the league under the new coach Ivan Leko. Leko was appointed after Dambrauskas was fired at the start of the season. In the mean time Karoglan was appointed as a temporary coach. Hajduk fans wanted Leko to get appointed as a coach and the club management listened. Leko's biggest wish is that Hajduk become a champion of the HNL. With Oršić leaving Dinamo and Hajduk being only six points behind Dinamo, it's not impossible.

[swogerino]

Hajduk is preparing for the continuation of the league under the new coach Ivan Leko. Leko was appointed after Dambrauskas was fired at the start of the season. In the mean time Karoglan was appointed as a temporary coach. Hajduk fans wanted Leko to get appointed as a coach and the club management listened. Leko's biggest wish is that Hajduk become a champion of the HNL. With Oršić leaving Dinamo and Hajduk being only six points behind Dinamo, it's not impossible.

I think that it is impossible because yes Hajduk is 6 points behind,but Dinamo has one game less so in theory if Dinamo wins which I think they should win their game they are 9 points behind.Another factor that makes me think this is the number of goals scored from Hajduk which is clearly a lot lower than that of Dinamo and as such this new coach Leko for me has the difficult duty to make Hajduk forwarders score more goals in order to not be impossible for them to win the title,as soon as he fixes this and also win a direct clash with Dinamo chances will be there.

[slackovic]

Hajduk is preparing for the continuation of the league under the new coach Ivan Leko. Leko was appointed after Dambrauskas was fired at the start of the season. In the mean time Karoglan was appointed as a temporary coach. Hajduk fans wanted Leko to get appointed as a coach and the club management listened. Leko's biggest wish is that Hajduk become a champion of the HNL. With Oršić leaving Dinamo and Hajduk being only six points behind Dinamo, it's not impossible.

I think that it is impossible because yes Hajduk is 6 points behind,but Dinamo has one game less so in theory if Dinamo wins which I think they should win their game they are 9 points behind.Another factor that makes me think this is the number of goals scored from Hajduk which is clearly a lot lower than that of Dinamo and as such this new coach Leko for me has the difficult duty to make Hajduk forwarders score more goals in order to not be impossible for them to win the title,as soon as he fixes this and also win a direct clash with Dinamo chances will be there.

Well, I didn't say that they will win the title. I just said what Leko's expectations are and that's winning a title. Although he didn't say that the expectation is to win the title this season (he signed a two year contract) so if Hajduk remains in the top two or three teams, I guess he will have a chance to win the title next season.

[Trofo]

Hajduk is preparing for the continuation of the league under the new coach Ivan Leko. Leko was appointed after Dambrauskas was fired at the start of the season. In the mean time Karoglan was appointed as a temporary coach. Hajduk fans wanted Leko to get appointed as a coach and the club management listened. Leko's biggest wish is that Hajduk become a champion of the HNL. With Oršić leaving Dinamo and Hajduk being only six points behind Dinamo, it's not impossible.

I think that it is impossible because yes Hajduk is 6 points behind,but Dinamo has one game less so in theory if Dinamo wins which I think they should win their game they are 9 points behind.Another factor that makes me think this is the number of goals scored from Hajduk which is clearly a lot lower than that of Dinamo and as such this new coach Leko for me has the difficult duty to make Hajduk forwarders score more goals in order to not be impossible for them to win the title,as soon as he fixes this and also win a direct clash with Dinamo chances will be there.

Well, I didn't say that they will win the title. I just said what Leko's expectations are and that's winning a title. Although he didn't say that the expectation is to win the title this season (he signed a two year contract) so if Hajduk remains in the top two or three teams, I guess he will have a chance to win the title next season.

It is always the same with Hajduk, big expectations and than a hit of harsh reality. Dinamo is by far the best club in the league and I don't see anybody taking the title soon.

I would like other top teams to make a step up in the European Competitions. We could use a bit higher coefficient and Dinamo is the only club lately giving us something on that front. Europe = money and we need more clubs to quolify for group stages.

[swogerino]

Hajduk is preparing for the continuation of the league under the new coach Ivan Leko. Leko was appointed after Dambrauskas was fired at the start of the season. In the mean time Karoglan was appointed as a temporary coach. Hajduk fans wanted Leko to get appointed as a coach and the club management listened. Leko's biggest wish is that Hajduk become a champion of the HNL. With Oršić leaving Dinamo and Hajduk being only six points behind Dinamo, it's not impossible.

I think that it is impossible because yes Hajduk is 6 points behind,but Dinamo has one game less so in theory if Dinamo wins which I think they should win their game they are 9 points behind.Another factor that makes me think this is the number of goals scored from Hajduk which is clearly a lot lower than that of Dinamo and as such this new coach Leko for me has the difficult duty to make Hajduk forwarders score more goals in order to not be impossible for them to win the title,as soon as he fixes this and also win a direct clash with Dinamo chances will be there.

Well, I didn't say that they will win the title. I just said what Leko's expectations are and that's winning a title. Although he didn't say that the expectation is to win the title this season (he signed a two year contract) so if Hajduk remains in the top two or three teams, I guess he will have a chance to win the title next season.

Well,I did not understand it that way,I thought that this new coach was talking about this year to become a Champion and that has really really slim chances if at all.For the next year though it will still be difficult if he does not change what I described above as not working,the ability of the team to score a good number of goals,of course compared to Dinamo Zagreb and not other teams,he really needs to work hard on this if he wants to have a chance to win the Croatian Liga next year.

[slackovic]

It is always the same with Hajduk, big expectations and than a hit of harsh reality. Dinamo is by far the best club in the league and I don't see anybody taking the title soon.

I would like other top teams to make a step up in the European Competitions. We could use a bit higher coefficient and Dinamo is the only club lately giving us something on that front. Europe = money and we need more clubs to quolify for group stages.

Of course... Hajduk always has big dreams but Dinamo is there to crush them. I agree that Croatian teams (except Dinamo) needs some better results from the European games which would increase national coefficient and give chance to more clubs to compete in Europe and maybe get weaker opponents. To me it looks like all clubs except Dinamo are in a loop where they don't have enough European games and because of that they don't want to sign better players. And without better players they can't get good results from European competitions.

Well,I did not understand it that way,I thought that this new coach was talking about this year to become a Champion and that has really really slim chances if at all.For the next year though it will still be difficult if he does not change what I described above as not working,the ability of the team to score a good number of goals,of course compared to Dinamo Zagreb and not other teams,he really needs to work hard on this if he wants to have a chance to win the Croatian Liga next year.

I don't know what has to happen for some other club except Dinamo to win the championship. Believe it or not, in the last 17 years Dinamo won the title in every season except for the 2016/2017 season when Rijeka won it. But even then nothing changed.

[Daniel91]

Orsic just left Dinamo for Southampton, thus fulfilling his great desire to play in the English football league.
This will be a big loss for Dinamo because Orsic saved them many times with his goals in the Croatian championship and in European competitions.
For now, nobody mentions Livakovic, so it seems that he will stay in Dinamo, at least until the end of the summer season.
During that time, a real war for power between two factions, Antolić's and Mamić's, takes place in Dinamo, and it will be interesting to see how it ends. 

Orsic leaving Dinamo will surely give other clubs like Hajduk and Osijek to come closer to Dinamo and end their streak of five consecutive championship titles. It really is a big loss for Dinamo and it will be even bigger loss if Livakovic leaves. I thought that Livakovic is the one who will leave for sure after his performance at the World Cup, but I guess I was wrong. Maybe Dinamo is asking too much... Currently he is valued at 14m € and his contract is set to expire next year so they have time to sell him. The only problem is that he is 27 years old and he's not getting any younger.

Judging by the rumors, Livakovic and Petkovic are also leaving the club soon.
It seems that Livakovic could go to the Spanish league, Villarreal is even mentioned as a possible candidate, and it seems that Petkovic could go to the Turkish league.
If Livakovic and Petkovic really leave, Dinamo will be without their 3 best players in the rest of the season, which will be a big handicap for them.
OK, they still have an advantage in the standings over Hajduk, but they certainly won't be as dominant in the Croatian league as they were with these three players.
The current war for control of the club between the Mamic brothers and Antolic will certainly not help them.

[slackovic]

Judging by the rumors, Livakovic and Petkovic are also leaving the club soon.
It seems that Livakovic could go to the Spanish league, Villarreal is even mentioned as a possible candidate, and it seems that Petkovic could go to the Turkish league.
If Livakovic and Petkovic really leave, Dinamo will be without their 3 best players in the rest of the season, which will be a big handicap for them.
OK, they still have an advantage in the standings over Hajduk, but they certainly won't be as dominant in the Croatian league as they were with these three players.
The current war for control of the club between the Mamic brothers and Antolic will certainly not help them.

There is also a rumor that Dinamo captain Ademi could be leaving the club. It is rumored that Valencia is willing to bring him, but also two clubs from Premiership are interested in signing Ademi. If all three of them leave, I'm not sure how Dinamo will look like in the rest of the season. This could be an opportunity for other teams in Croatian league to go for the title.

[Daniel91]

Judging by the rumors, Livakovic and Petkovic are also leaving the club soon.
It seems that Livakovic could go to the Spanish league, Villarreal is even mentioned as a possible candidate, and it seems that Petkovic could go to the Turkish league.
If Livakovic and Petkovic really leave, Dinamo will be without their 3 best players in the rest of the season, which will be a big handicap for them.
OK, they still have an advantage in the standings over Hajduk, but they certainly won't be as dominant in the Croatian league as they were with these three players.
The current war for control of the club between the Mamic brothers and Antolic will certainly not help them.

There is also a rumor that Dinamo captain Ademi could be leaving the club. It is rumored that Valencia is willing to bring him, but also two clubs from Premiership are interested in signing Ademi. If all three of them leave, I'm not sure how Dinamo will look like in the rest of the season. This could be an opportunity for other teams in Croatian league to go for the title.

Even without all those players, Dynamo still has the strongest team in the Croatian football league. Only in Dinamo could it happen that such a quality striker as Drmic doesn't play, because there are better quality strikers than him in the team.
In the same way, Dinamo will earn enough from the transfers of Orsic, Livakovic, Petkovic and Ademi to be able to bring any player from the Croatian football league to the club and thus further weaken their competitors, as they did when they brought Bockaj from Osijek, who later played very little in Dinamo.
For Dinamo and its future, a much greater danger is the fratricidal war between two factions in the club for power, between Antolic and Mamic, and this could lead to serious problems in the management of the club.

[slackovic]

Even without all those players, Dynamo still has the strongest team in the Croatian football league. Only in Dinamo could it happen that such a quality striker as Drmic doesn't play, because there are better quality strikers than him in the team.
In the same way, Dinamo will earn enough from the transfers of Orsic, Livakovic, Petkovic and Ademi to be able to bring any player from the Croatian football league to the club and thus further weaken their competitors, as they did when they brought Bockaj from Osijek, who later played very little in Dinamo.
For Dinamo and its future, a much greater danger is the fratricidal war between two factions in the club for power, between Antolic and Mamic, and this could lead to serious problems in the management of the club.

That may be the case, but if Dinamo signs majority of the good players from other clubs, what is the future od Croatian clubs in European leagues? All other clubs will play less and less important part in the European leagues and that will weaken Croatian coefficient even more.

As for the fight between two factions, that is a serious problem which I hope they will be able to solve. It amazes me how a person like Mamic can influence things in the club even though he is not in the country anymore.

[Trofo]

That may be the case, but if Dinamo signs majority of the good players from other clubs, what is the future od Croatian clubs in European leagues? All other clubs will play less and less important part in the European leagues and that will weaken Croatian coefficient even more.

Doesn't have to be the case always, Rijeka made excellent loan deals with Dinamo in the past and their players were the ones that brought us results. It is normal for Dinamo to buy all the best players in the league after they played couple of seasons of good football. It is not normal for kids from Dalmatia or Istra to start their career in Dinamo. They should go trough youth teams in bigger clubs closer to home and then go to Dinamo before that big transfer abroad. Bayern is doing the same in Germany for years and PSG in France. Not really an excuse for total lack of European results.