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February 02, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
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Even if such players leave Dinamo they will be still the top contender for the title and mainly they will win it.As you say the lack of a plan and also finances impact all the other teams but I want to emphasize another fact here which makes it even more clear,the fact is that Dinamo for example when facing such teams they go and win with a tennis result like 5-1 against Hajduk last season or two seasons ago I don't remember this well but when I saw that result it impressed me a lot in a bad way and I thought to myself,how can Hajduk be a contender when they lose 5-1 to the top team?

Of course that Dinamo will win against any team in the Croatian league in 4 out of 5 games. Now and then it happens that Dinamo lose a game like the one against Osijek in October. Hajduk, Osijek and Rijeka are considered as contenders because of their results in the past. Today they are not considered as real contenders because it's clear to anyone that Dinamo will win the title. It looks ridiculous to me when I see media headlines saying that the game between Dinamo and Hajduk/Osijek/Rijeka is a derby when we all know that it's not.

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February 02, 2023, 01:05:32 PM
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Of course that Dinamo will win against any team in the Croatian league in 4 out of 5 games. Now and then it happens that Dinamo lose a game like the one against Osijek in October. Hajduk, Osijek and Rijeka are considered as contenders because of their results in the past. Today they are not considered as real contenders because it's clear to anyone that Dinamo will win the title. It looks ridiculous to me when I see media headlines saying that the game between Dinamo and Hajduk/Osijek/Rijeka is a derby when we all know that it's not.
Dinamo Zagreb has dominated the Croatian league for the last few seasons (not much different from PSG in ligue1 & Bayern in Bundesliga) even though Rijeka have won the Croatian league but for this season they are not a tough opponent for Dinamo Zagreb.  at the beginning of the season, the hajduk split looked like it would be a big threat to dinamo zagreb but it didn't go well because they couldn't maintain a good performance, even in the last 5 matches the Split had results not satisfactory (they only won 2, drew 2 and lost 1)

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February 04, 2023, 11:51:24 AM
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Of course that Dinamo will win against any team in the Croatian league in 4 out of 5 games. Now and then it happens that Dinamo lose a game like the one against Osijek in October. Hajduk, Osijek and Rijeka are considered as contenders because of their results in the past. Today they are not considered as real contenders because it's clear to anyone that Dinamo will win the title. It looks ridiculous to me when I see media headlines saying that the game between Dinamo and Hajduk/Osijek/Rijeka is a derby when we all know that it's not.
Dinamo Zagreb has dominated the Croatian league for the last few seasons (not much different from PSG in ligue1 & Bayern in Bundesliga) even though Rijeka have won the Croatian league but for this season they are not a tough opponent for Dinamo Zagreb.  at the beginning of the season, the hajduk split looked like it would be a big threat to dinamo zagreb but it didn't go well because they couldn't maintain a good performance, even in the last 5 matches the Split had results not satisfactory (they only won 2, drew 2 and lost 1)

If we want to be more precise, Dinamo Zagreb dominated the Croatian league for the last 20 years, and only Rijeka managed to take the championship title once, and that was all from Dinamo's competitors in the Croatian league.
Hajduk has long since lacked sufficient quality to become a serious competitor to Dinamo.
Hajduk, since it was taken over by the fans through their association, has only a name and tradition and nothing more.
On the other hand, Dinamo was practically taken over by one family, Mamic, and turned it into the most successful club not only in Croatia but also in the wider region.
Everything always comes down to money in the end, especially in sports.

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February 06, 2023, 11:44:28 AM
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And another weekend has passed with another disappointing result for Hajduk, but also for Dinamo. Hajduk lost another game at home against Rijeka. A year ago it wouldn't be so surprising for Rijeka to beat Hajduk. But this season when Rijeka is playing really bad, fans are furious. Especially when Hajduk was awarded in the last seconds of the game and Livaja managed to miss it.

As for Dinamo, I'm not sure if the lack of form lately is because players are unhappy in the club, but it is evident that something needs to change. After ending a game versus Gorica in a draw, barely beating Lokomotiva and now another draw against Slaven Belupo, I think their management has to do something about it.

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February 06, 2023, 02:10:04 PM
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And another weekend has passed with another disappointing result for Hajduk, but also for Dinamo. Hajduk lost another game at home against Rijeka. A year ago it wouldn't be so surprising for Rijeka to beat Hajduk. But this season when Rijeka is playing really bad, fans are furious. Especially when Hajduk was awarded in the last seconds of the game and Livaja managed to miss it.

As for Dinamo, I'm not sure if the lack of form lately is because players are unhappy in the club, but it is evident that something needs to change. After ending a game versus Gorica in a draw, barely beating Lokomotiva and now another draw against Slaven Belupo, I think their management has to do something about it.

I agree with you.Management should do something as even if they manage to win this season the Croatian league it is because they are already comfortably ahead.With such results like one win and two draws for the next season I can guarantee you that they are not enough to make you Champion that easily.The problem in this league is that there is no real competition,the ones that were the title contenders such as Hajduk and Rijeka are not at good times either and maybe that is why Dinamo is taking things easy.

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February 07, 2023, 07:12:17 AM
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I agree with you.Management should do something as even if they manage to win this season the Croatian league it is because they are already comfortably ahead.With such results like one win and two draws for the next season I can guarantee you that they are not enough to make you Champion that easily.The problem in this league is that there is no real competition,the ones that were the title contenders such as Hajduk and Rijeka are not at good times either and maybe that is why Dinamo is taking things easy.

Dinamo management is too busy fighting for the power to notice that they have very big problems in their team. Maybe they notice but don't care because there is no other team that can take the title away from Dinamo. It's sad actually because Dinamo was quite a team a few seasons ago. They were pretty solid in European competitions but if everything stays the same, I expect a very fast drop out from the European competitions.

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February 08, 2023, 08:37:28 AM
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Our legend, the coach of all coaches, Miroslav Ćiro Blažević, passed away a day before his 88th birthday after a long battle with cancer. He will always be remembered as the man who initiated our journey with our golden generation and winning our first ever medal at the '98 World Cup in France.

Počivaj u miru, Ćiro! #RIP

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February 08, 2023, 08:42:38 AM
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Our legend, the coach of all coaches, Miroslav Ćiro Blažević, passed away a day before his 88th birthday after a long battle with cancer. He will always be remembered as the man who initiated our journey with our golden generation and winning our first ever medal at the '98 World Cup in France.

Počivaj u miru, Ćiro! #RIP


Oh man... May he rest in peace. I just read the news. Who knows if Croatian national team would be so successful if it wasn't for him and his golden generation. He will always be remembered as the legend, no matter how many national team coaches come and what results they get.

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February 08, 2023, 02:51:15 PM
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Dear Ciro, rest in peace.
I think that no football coach has had as much influence on Croatian club and national team football as Miroslav Blazevic.
In the former Yugoslav football league, with Dinamo, after 24 years, he broke the dominance of Serbian clubs and became the national champion.
Dinamo fans, who remember it, will never forget that national championship title.
And what can we say about the third place of the Croatian football team at the 1998 World Cup in France and all the happiness and enthusiasm of the Croatian people after that?
Wherever Ciro was a coach, he left an indelible mark. Pristina, Bosnia, Iran... wherever he was a coach, he was loved and respected and the fans loved him.
Ciro, thank you for everything!

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February 09, 2023, 03:28:19 PM
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This was really sad to see. We all knew it was coming, he was ill for a while.

I remember when I came from my small town to Zagreb on a school trip - it was in 1999, we saw him driving his Vespa and started running after him and yelling 'Ćiro legendo'.
He stopped, smiled, opened his wallet, gave us all his money for icecream (it was really a lot of money at that time) and went away.

I met him a few times later as well and had a chance to talk with him, the guy was truly a unique character. Not a great coach but a fantastic ambassador of football in general.

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February 11, 2023, 02:54:25 PM
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This was really sad to see. We all knew it was coming, he was ill for a while.

I remember when I came from my small town to Zagreb on a school trip - it was in 1999, we saw him driving his Vespa and started running after him and yelling 'Ćiro legendo'.
He stopped, smiled, opened his wallet, gave us all his money for icecream (it was really a lot of money at that time) and went away.

I met him a few times later as well and had a chance to talk with him, the guy was truly a unique character. Not a great coach but a fantastic ambassador of football in general.

 I wouldn't agree with you if Ciro wasn't a great coach.
Many today mistakenly say that Ciro was only a good motivator and nothing more, but that is wrong.
It's true that he was lucky in 1982 and 1998 when he got the opportunity to coach the best teams in the history of Croatian football, but Ciro achieved great results with much weaker teams.
In 1986, he saved the weak team of Priština from relegation from the first Yugoslav league, and he almost took the average national teams of Iran and Bosnia and Herzegovina to the world championships in 2002 and 2010.
Is it really possible to attribute each of his coaching successes solely to luck and motivation, or is it also a matter of great coaching knowledge and experience?
Boban recently stated that it was very difficult to lead the Croatian national team in 1998 because it was full of stars with very difficult characters and that he believes that Ćiro was the only one who could lead them successfully.


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February 11, 2023, 05:19:28 PM
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I wouldn't agree with you if Ciro wasn't a great coach.
Many today mistakenly say that Ciro was only a good motivator and nothing more, but that is wrong.
It's true that he was lucky in 1982 and 1998 when he got the opportunity to coach the best teams in the history of Croatian football, but Ciro achieved great results with much weaker teams.
In 1986, he saved the weak team of Priština from relegation from the first Yugoslav league, and he almost took the average national teams of Iran and Bosnia and Herzegovina to the world championships in 2002 and 2010.
Is it really possible to attribute each of his coaching successes solely to luck and motivation, or is it also a matter of great coaching knowledge and experience?
Boban recently stated that it was very difficult to lead the Croatian national team in 1998 because it was full of stars with very difficult characters and that he believes that Ćiro was the only one who could lead them successfully.

I never said he was terrible, I just think he wasn't great. I also think that Dalić isn't a great coach and he's had tremendous success with the national team.

Ćiro was a decent coach and a fantastic motivator, but he wasn't the best when it came down to tactics or game management. At least that's what I feel.

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February 12, 2023, 02:04:00 PM
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I wouldn't agree with you if Ciro wasn't a great coach.
Many today mistakenly say that Ciro was only a good motivator and nothing more, but that is wrong.
It's true that he was lucky in 1982 and 1998 when he got the opportunity to coach the best teams in the history of Croatian football, but Ciro achieved great results with much weaker teams.
In 1986, he saved the weak team of Priština from relegation from the first Yugoslav league, and he almost took the average national teams of Iran and Bosnia and Herzegovina to the world championships in 2002 and 2010.
Is it really possible to attribute each of his coaching successes solely to luck and motivation, or is it also a matter of great coaching knowledge and experience?
Boban recently stated that it was very difficult to lead the Croatian national team in 1998 because it was full of stars with very difficult characters and that he believes that Ćiro was the only one who could lead them successfully.

I never said he was terrible, I just think he wasn't great. I also think that Dalić isn't a great coach and he's had tremendous success with the national team.

Ćiro was a decent coach and a fantastic motivator, but he wasn't the best when it came down to tactics or game management. At least that's what I feel.

OK, obviously we will never agree on Ciro and that's ok.  Grin However, everyone agrees that he is a coaching legend and a man whose coaching successes will never be forgotten.
Let's go back to the Croatian league.
Dinamo had a very bad start to the season, but they are lucky that the competition is even worse, so they don't have to worry about the title and can slowly start preparing the team for the new season.
Hajduk really disappointed me, I expected a lot more from them considering all the stories, but again nothing happened   Cheesy
It's really unexpected that Rijeka and Gorica are so bad this season, but it seems that Rijeka is slowly returning to the top of the rankings.
Unfortunately, the championship has already become boring to us because it is already known in advance who will be the champion  Grin

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So Hajduk finally managed to beat a team in the Croatian league. All five goals were in the second half. Varaždin just managed to equalize, only to receive a red card for Elezi after a foul. After that red card they couldn't stop Hajduk from scoring three more goals. Maybe this win will give Hajduk players some moral boost. Their next game is against Gorica which is fixed in the last spot.

Other games ended with more or less expecting results. In a battle for the third place that leads into European qualifications Osijek and Slaven Belupo game ended up in a draw.

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So Hajduk finally managed to beat a team in the Croatian league. All five goals were in the second half. Varaždin just managed to equalize, only to receive a red card for Elezi after a foul. After that red card they couldn't stop Hajduk from scoring three more goals. Maybe this win will give Hajduk players some moral boost. Their next game is against Gorica which is fixed in the last spot.

Other games ended with more or less expecting results. In a battle for the third place that leads into European qualifications Osijek and Slaven Belupo game ended up in a draw.

Much more was expected from Hajduk this season, even that they will fight equally with Dinamo for the title of Croatian champion.
However, it is again shown that such expectations were unrealistic and without a basis in reality.
Dinamo is simply financially and organizationally far above its competition in the Croatian football league and this has been a fact for the last almost 20 years.
Hajduk was not even able to take advantage of Dinamo's worse start and results in the last couple of weeks, and that says it all  Grin
The only thing that remains interesting right now is to see which clubs will qualify for next season's European competitions. I would like Slaven to be among those clubs, what a football holiday it would be for Koprivnica  Cheesy

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February 24, 2023, 06:37:03 PM
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Typically, I don't place bets on HNL matches, but with the upcoming Eternal Derby, I'm curious... What's your take on the current line? Do you think it's a wise decision to place a bet on either team?



Dinamo is leading the table with an impressive record of 16 wins, 4 draws, and only one loss. They're currently sitting comfortably at the top of the league, and their recent form has been excellent. On the other hand, Hajduk is in second place, with a record of 13 wins, 5 draws, and 4 losses. They've also been in decent form lately, with some solid performances in recent matches. This will be the third time Hajduk and Dinamo face off in the current season. The first game ended with a 4-1 victory for Dinamo in Zagreb, while the second match resulted in a 1-1 draw in Split.

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February 25, 2023, 07:24:26 AM
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Typically, I don't place bets on HNL matches, but with the upcoming Eternal Derby, I'm curious... What's your take on the current line? Do you think it's a wise decision to place a bet on either team?



Dinamo is leading the table with an impressive record of 16 wins, 4 draws, and only one loss. They're currently sitting comfortably at the top of the league, and their recent form has been excellent. On the other hand, Hajduk is in second place, with a record of 13 wins, 5 draws, and 4 losses. They've also been in decent form lately, with some solid performances in recent matches. This will be the third time Hajduk and Dinamo face off in the current season. The first game ended with a 4-1 victory for Dinamo in Zagreb, while the second match resulted in a 1-1 draw in Split.


If I were to bet on this game, I would put my money on Dinamo. It's true that Hajduk is in a decent form lately, but games between these two teams are something special. I'm sure that Dinamo players will put an extra effort in the game. I didn't follow the news from Hajduk, but I see that SofaScore has Livaja as doubtful for the game. I don't like him but he is an important player and I don't see them winning without him.

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HNK Gorica will host NK Lokomotiva Zagreb at Stadion Radnik on 2023-02-25 in an interesting encounter in 1. HNL. HNK Gorica, currently sitting at 10 will be looking for important home win. NK Lokomotiva Zagreb, on the other hand, sits in 8 of the league table and will be looking to improve their position with a win. This match will be a tough test for both teams, and it should be an exciting match in anticipation. The head to head record for HNK Gorica vs NK Lokomotiva Zagreb is worth a look. HNK Gorica have won 1 meetings with NK Lokomotiva Zagreb, while NK Lokomotiva Zagreb have won 2. There have been 2 draws between these two sides. With this record and the current form of the away team I don't see anything changing history is bound to repeat itself.
 
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Rijeka will play at home ground against Slaven Belupo in new round of Croatian First Division and I think that they are going in this match as big favorites so I am sure that they will press guests well and take three points in the end. Rijeka is on 6th place in this league with 28 points but their ambitions and objectives are much higher so their need to show their quality to reach them. I think that they still have a lot of time and space for improvements and I think that they can catch European competitions places if they use their quality and talent well. I think that this is an very important match for them so I think that we can expect positive socre for them. Slaven Belupo is a very good team in this league for years and they will try to take a maximum from them in this season as well. They are currently on 5th position with one point more than Rijeka and I think that they also have ambitions to get points here. So there is no doubt that we can expect tight match here, but guest should be very careful against opponent like Rijeka. I think that home side will be on high level and I bet on them to get three points today.
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February 25, 2023, 12:09:16 PM
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HNK Gorica will host NK Lokomotiva Zagreb at Stadion Radnik on 2023-02-25 in an interesting encounter in 1. HNL. HNK Gorica, currently sitting at 10 will be looking for important home win. NK Lokomotiva Zagreb, on the other hand, sits in 8 of the league table and will be looking to improve their position with a win. This match will be a tough test for both teams, and it should be an exciting match in anticipation. The head to head record for HNK Gorica vs NK Lokomotiva Zagreb is worth a look. HNK Gorica have won 1 meetings with NK Lokomotiva Zagreb, while NK Lokomotiva Zagreb have won 2. There have been 2 draws between these two sides. With this record and the current form of the away team I don't see anything changing history is bound to repeat itself.


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Even though HNK Gorica is playing at home, they are not the favorites in this game. We can see from the odds that I attached for the 1x2 bet on the Rollbit site. This league is also a very risky league, just like the Denmark league which is difficult to predict. Instead of betting on this match, it's better to bet on the EPL or other major European leagues that are also running today. But if I have to predict the result of this match, I predict that HNK Gorica will win this match or we'll see a draw.

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