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March 28, 2023, 11:26:17 AM
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In football, there have been bigger surprises than that, such as the return of Livaja from abroad to Hajduk. Why wouldn't Orsic do that if it would save his career?
What do Southampton have from Orsic now? Only dead capital and they actually lose big money on him.
Do you really think that Oršić would even play for Southampton in the Championship and now he is not even a reserve player?
I am convinced that Southampton will do everything they can to get rid of Orsic because they clearly have no patience for him and don't count on Orsic anymore.

Football doesn't work like Fifa. I'm not saying that Southampton doesn't want to get rid of him, I'm saying that they probably wouldn't want to get rid of him for 1m euro.
Dinamo can't pay him nearly close to what Southampton is currently paying - meaning that Southampton would have to pay a part of his salary as well.

Livaja came to Hajduk from Greece - not England, and on a free transfer. Oršić has a 2mil euro yearly salary. They are nowhere near the same.

I also think that there is no was Oršić will move back to Dinamo any time soon. He will probably come back at the end of his career. If Southampton wants to get rid of him, he could end up playing for some club in England's or some other country lower league. Those clubs can surely pay him more money than Dinamo.

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April 01, 2023, 11:19:44 AM
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Today, after a break for the national team, the Croatian football league continues.
Can Hajduk get closer to Dinamo and make them even more nervous after a series of bad results lately?
However, Dinamo is a huge favorite against Gorica and Hajduk traditionally has problems against Sibenik.
The fight for Croatia's remaining 2 spots in European club competitions between Osijek, Varazdin, Slaven, Istra and Rijeka is also interesting. Gorica is definitely out of the league.

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April 05, 2023, 02:34:29 PM
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The leading Croatian club Dinamo is in a huge crisis and in the next 2 games coach Cacic is saving his job and Dinamo his season.
Dinamo had a huge advantage in the championship, but they started playing very badly and currently Hajduk reduced the difference for Dinamo to only 7 points, and Dinamo still has to play in Split, Rijeka and Osijek.
In the semi-finals of the cup, they play in Sibenik against the team that recently defeated them.
Also, probably the best Dinamo team in the last 50 years is falling apart, because Livakovic, Petkovic and maybe Ivanucec will soon be leaving the club after Orsic and Ademi. A lot of work for the new Dinamo management.

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April 05, 2023, 04:04:25 PM
Last edit: April 06, 2023, 07:17:26 AM by slackovic
 #144

The leading Croatian club Dinamo is in a huge crisis and in the next 2 games coach Cacic is saving his job and Dinamo his season.
Dinamo had a huge advantage in the championship, but they started playing very badly and currently Hajduk reduced the difference for Dinamo to only 7 points, and Dinamo still has to play in Split, Rijeka and Osijek.
In the semi-finals of the cup, they play in Sibenik against the team that recently defeated them.
Also, probably the best Dinamo team in the last 50 years is falling apart, because Livakovic, Petkovic and maybe Ivanucec will soon be leaving the club after Orsic and Ademi. A lot of work for the new Dinamo management.


I must admit that I stopped following what's going on in the Croatian league. I'm not that surprised that Dinamo is playing this bad. The most important players have announced that they will leave the club so bad performance is to be expected. Especially when you have a coach like Ante Cacic who I think doesn't have any respect from the players.

EDIT: Well... Dinamo lost the semi final cup game yesterday against Šibenik. I'm not sure if it's official yet, but the Dinamo board held a meeting last night where they fired Ante Cacic. The biggest problem for Dinamo is that Cacic wasn't only the coach, but was also a sports director (I'm not sure if that's the right name for position "sportski direktor" in English). Because of that and the fact that he recently signed a new contract, Cacic is looking to get around 1,5 million Euro.

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April 07, 2023, 06:08:02 PM
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So after letting go Ante Cacic, Dinamo appointed Igor Biscan as a new head coach. Biscan worked good as a national U21 team head coach so we will see how good he'll be in Dinamo. Important thing is that the fans welcomed signing one of the Dinamo's legendary players as the new head coach. Tomorrow Dinamo is playing against Lokomotiva and I'm sure that the fans will show Biscan that he is welcomed to the club.

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April 08, 2023, 10:30:13 AM
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Bišćan is a terrible choice - at least in my opinion. I don't really rate Čačić as well - and Bišćan will probably do well in HNL (everybody would with Dinamo).

Considering that Dinamo will have to go through a bigger reconstruction this summer and the fact that the new coach will have to assemble a team for Europe fast - they needed someone with at least more experience.

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April 08, 2023, 01:49:11 PM
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Bišćan is a terrible choice - at least in my opinion. I don't really rate Čačić as well - and Bišćan will probably do well in HNL (everybody would with Dinamo).

Considering that Dinamo will have to go through a bigger reconstruction this summer and the fact that the new coach will have to assemble a team for Europe fast - they needed someone with at least more experience.

Dinamo needed an urgent replacement for Čačić, and currently there are not many available coaches on the football market who could take over that responsibility within 24 hours.
Bišćan was a good coach and achieved very good results wherever he was so far, in Rudeš, Rijeka, Olimpija and in the U 21 Croatian national team. Why not give him a little more trust?
I think he could be a very good choice for Dinamo because he knows how to work with young players and is ready to trust them, unlike Čačić.
Livaković and Petković are leaving Dinamo soon, Ademi and Oršić have already left, so you have to trust the young and talented players from Dinamo in order to be ready to take responsibility next season when the main players leave. Dinamo needs a coach who will already start preparing young talents and the team for the next season.

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April 08, 2023, 09:58:29 PM
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So after letting go Ante Cacic, Dinamo appointed Igor Biscan as a new head coach. Biscan worked good as a national U21 team head coach so we will see how good he'll be in Dinamo. Important thing is that the fans welcomed signing one of the Dinamo's legendary players as the new head coach. Tomorrow Dinamo is playing against Lokomotiva and I'm sure that the fans will show Biscan that he is welcomed to the club.

I don't know much about this coach, but he won in his first game as Dinamo's coach, maybe because Dinamo is at the top of the table and doesn't have many opponents capable of competing with the dynamo that makes Igor Biscan's task more It's easy, when a coach assumes the role of coaching a team that is at the top of the table with a big difference in points compared to second place, then that coach's task becomes very easy, even if the coach is not a genius, he will get good results

with this difference of 9 points with second place, and knowing that there are still 8 games left, it will be very important that the dynamo strive to win as many games as they can and pray that hajduk loses more points, at least that he loses in 3 games so that dynamo manages to become champions in advance, but if dynamo wins the next 6 games then they will be champions in advance even with 2 games left to finish the league

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April 09, 2023, 12:23:30 PM
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So after letting go Ante Cacic, Dinamo appointed Igor Biscan as a new head coach. Biscan worked good as a national U21 team head coach so we will see how good he'll be in Dinamo. Important thing is that the fans welcomed signing one of the Dinamo's legendary players as the new head coach. Tomorrow Dinamo is playing against Lokomotiva and I'm sure that the fans will show Biscan that he is welcomed to the club.

I don't know much about this coach, but he won in his first game as Dinamo's coach, maybe because Dinamo is at the top of the table and doesn't have many opponents capable of competing with the dynamo that makes Igor Biscan's task more It's easy, when a coach assumes the role of coaching a team that is at the top of the table with a big difference in points compared to second place, then that coach's task becomes very easy, even if the coach is not a genius, he will get good results

with this difference of 9 points with second place, and knowing that there are still 8 games left, it will be very important that the dynamo strive to win as many games as they can and pray that hajduk loses more points, at least that he loses in 3 games so that dynamo manages to become champions in advance, but if dynamo wins the next 6 games then they will be champions in advance even with 2 games left to finish the league

Honestly, the quality of Dinamo's team is higher than all other clubs in the Croatian football league, and the only reason why Dinamo has problems and bad results lately is the internal relations within the club and the team.
With the arrival of Bišćan and Šimić, the situation in the club has now stabilized and there is no longer any doubt that Dinamo will win the Croatian championship again without any problems.
It is now much more important for the club to start preparing for the new season, given that Orsic and Ademi have already left the club, and Livakovic and Petkovic are probably leaving as well.
Without success in European competitions, this club can't survive financially.

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April 09, 2023, 02:36:11 PM
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Bišćan is a terrible choice - at least in my opinion. I don't really rate Čačić as well - and Bišćan will probably do well in HNL (everybody would with Dinamo).

I agree that it is a bad choice, but I can imagine someone much worse who would be happy to be a coach again (Kruno Jurcic). Looking back, Dinamo ZG never seriously invested in coaches, they were all solutions that served The Boss, and regardless of the fact that he has not been in the country for some time, he is still making some key moves in the club. Biscan will serve his purpose, but the same fate awaits him as all the others before him.

Considering that Dinamo will have to go through a bigger reconstruction this summer and the fact that the new coach will have to assemble a team for Europe fast - they needed someone with at least more experience.

Realistically, there is no such person on the domestic market, and a foreigner should be paid much more than Cacic or Biscan, not to mention that no foreigner would stay longer than a month in a club where some strange games are played, and in the past months we have seen about what a circus it is.

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April 09, 2023, 02:42:30 PM
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Bišćan is a terrible choice - at least in my opinion. I don't really rate Čačić as well - and Bišćan will probably do well in HNL (everybody would with Dinamo).

I agree that it is a bad choice, but I can imagine someone much worse who would be happy to be a coach again (Kruno Jurcic). Looking back, Dinamo ZG never seriously invested in coaches, they were all solutions that served The Boss, and regardless of the fact that he has not been in the country for some time, he is still making some key moves in the club. Biscan will serve his purpose, but the same fate awaits him as all the others before him.

Considering that Dinamo will have to go through a bigger reconstruction this summer and the fact that the new coach will have to assemble a team for Europe fast - they needed someone with at least more experience.

Realistically, there is no such person on the domestic market, and a foreigner should be paid much more than Cacic or Biscan, not to mention that no foreigner would stay longer than a month in a club where some strange games are played, and in the past months we have seen about what a circus it is.

I agree that Biscan is not THE coach, but I think that any coach is better than Cacic who never had respect from the players. At least it looked like they don't respect him.

For now I think that Dinamo is not in a position where they can choose any coach, even if they were willing to pay someone a lot of money. Expensive coaches don't want to work in a club where someone else chooses which player has to play.

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April 10, 2023, 07:08:08 AM
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Bišćan is a terrible choice - at least in my opinion. I don't really rate Čačić as well - and Bišćan will probably do well in HNL (everybody would with Dinamo).

I agree that it is a bad choice, but I can imagine someone much worse who would be happy to be a coach again (Kruno Jurcic). Looking back, Dinamo ZG never seriously invested in coaches, they were all solutions that served The Boss, and regardless of the fact that he has not been in the country for some time, he is still making some key moves in the club. Biscan will serve his purpose, but the same fate awaits him as all the others before him.

Considering that Dinamo will have to go through a bigger reconstruction this summer and the fact that the new coach will have to assemble a team for Europe fast - they needed someone with at least more experience.

Realistically, there is no such person on the domestic market, and a foreigner should be paid much more than Cacic or Biscan, not to mention that no foreigner would stay longer than a month in a club where some strange games are played, and in the past months we have seen about what a circus it is.

I agree that Biscan is not THE coach, but I think that any coach is better than Cacic who never had respect from the players. At least it looked like they don't respect him.

For now I think that Dinamo is not in a position where they can choose any coach, even if they were willing to pay someone a lot of money. Expensive coaches don't want to work in a club where someone else chooses which player has to play.

Not much was expected from Bjelica either when he became coach of Dinamo and he revived the team and brought it to the current level, when they are regular participants in the group stage of European competitions.
Biscan played for Liverpool for a long time and learned from the best, and he has already shown by coaching the U21 national team of Croatia, Olimpija and Rijeka that he is capable of winning trophies and meeting high expectations.
I think he is currently the best option for Dinamo because he knows the situation and is ready to give young players a chance.
I am sure that he will be a better and more successful coach than Cacic  Grin

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April 11, 2023, 08:33:08 AM
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Not much was expected from Bjelica either when he became coach of Dinamo and he revived the team and brought it to the current level, when they are regular participants in the group stage of European competitions.
Biscan played for Liverpool for a long time and learned from the best, and he has already shown by coaching the U21 national team of Croatia, Olimpija and Rijeka that he is capable of winning trophies and meeting high expectations.
I think he is currently the best option for Dinamo because he knows the situation and is ready to give young players a chance.
I am sure that he will be a better and more successful coach than Cacic  Grin

That's true. It would be great if Biscan manages to be the coach Bjelica was when he was in Dinamo. Biscan already managed to secure one win against Lokomotiva. It may not mean much at first, but Dinamo had a really bad March when they won only against Rijeka. I have no problem giving Biscan a chance to show that he can be "the next Bjelica" and I definitely agree that he will be better than Cacic.

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April 15, 2023, 02:18:32 PM
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Not much was expected from Bjelica either when he became coach of Dinamo and he revived the team and brought it to the current level, when they are regular participants in the group stage of European competitions.
Biscan played for Liverpool for a long time and learned from the best, and he has already shown by coaching the U21 national team of Croatia, Olimpija and Rijeka that he is capable of winning trophies and meeting high expectations.
I think he is currently the best option for Dinamo because he knows the situation and is ready to give young players a chance.
I am sure that he will be a better and more successful coach than Cacic  Grin

That's true. It would be great if Biscan manages to be the coach Bjelica was when he was in Dinamo. Biscan already managed to secure one win against Lokomotiva. It may not mean much at first, but Dinamo had a really bad March when they won only against Rijeka. I have no problem giving Biscan a chance to show that he can be "the next Bjelica" and I definitely agree that he will be better than Cacic.

I think that after a long time, Dinamo has a chance to become a quality-led club, without problems from the past.
Simic managed to get into the Dinamo board and bring Biscan as the coach of the first team. The fans have a great influence on the club's policy, and a new club statute is being prepared, which will give them the opportunity to finally enter the club's Assembly.
The team is preparing for the next season, and it seems to me that the worst crisis in the club passed after the victory against Lokomotiv, when the players showed character and responded very well to the pressure. The club is obviously stabilized and now preparations for the new season follow.
The question of the champion of Croatia has been resolved, and currently the most interesting fight is for the remaining 3 places in European club competitions.

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April 15, 2023, 03:23:29 PM
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I think that after a long time, Dinamo has a chance to become a quality-led club, without problems from the past.
Simic managed to get into the Dinamo board and bring Biscan as the coach of the first team. The fans have a great influence on the club's policy, and a new club statute is being prepared, which will give them the opportunity to finally enter the club's Assembly.

There is always hope for a new beginning, and although it seems to some that it is different now than before, I think that the possibility of some new "crisis situations" should not be dismissed yet. I think that there are still some people that the club should get rid of as soon as possible, especially those who still maintain ties with the old boss - so although some will say that it is a finished story, for some Dinamo is still an ATM that they want to continue using.

The team is preparing for the next season, and it seems to me that the worst crisis in the club passed after the victory against Lokomotiv, when the players showed character and responded very well to the pressure.

So who will Dinamo beat if not its younger brother, because it's no secret how deep the ties between these two clubs are. In the betting world, that would be called a safe bet Smiley


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April 16, 2023, 12:24:49 PM
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I think that after a long time, Dinamo has a chance to become a quality-led club, without problems from the past.
Simic managed to get into the Dinamo board and bring Biscan as the coach of the first team. The fans have a great influence on the club's policy, and a new club statute is being prepared, which will give them the opportunity to finally enter the club's Assembly.

There is always hope for a new beginning, and although it seems to some that it is different now than before, I think that the possibility of some new "crisis situations" should not be dismissed yet. I think that there are still some people that the club should get rid of as soon as possible, especially those who still maintain ties with the old boss - so although some will say that it is a finished story, for some Dinamo is still an ATM that they want to continue using.

The team is preparing for the next season, and it seems to me that the worst crisis in the club passed after the victory against Lokomotiv, when the players showed character and responded very well to the pressure.

So who will Dinamo beat if not its younger brother, because it's no secret how deep the ties between these two clubs are. In the betting world, that would be called a safe bet Smiley



I think it can already be said that Biscan has changed things in the team and that the players are playing again without pressure and fear, and with confidence. The championship title is now safe.
As for the general situation in the club, I think it's obvious that Mamić has lost power in the club, and I don't think that Barišić will stay long either and that the story is over. Politics decided so and it is a settled matter.
Lokomotiva used to be a branch of Dinamo during the Mamica era, but in recent years that is no longer the case and their matches are always uncertain and open.
In the last few seasons, Dinamo lost a lot of points in matches against Lokomotiva.
Today we will see what Hajduk can do against Rijeka without Livaja.

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April 17, 2023, 09:00:09 AM
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I think it can already be said that Biscan has changed things in the team and that the players are playing again without pressure and fear, and with confidence. The championship title is now safe.
As for the general situation in the club, I think it's obvious that Mamić has lost power in the club, and I don't think that Barišić will stay long either and that the story is over. Politics decided so and it is a settled matter.
Lokomotiva used to be a branch of Dinamo during the Mamica era, but in recent years that is no longer the case and their matches are always uncertain and open.
In the last few seasons, Dinamo lost a lot of points in matches against Lokomotiva.
Today we will see what Hajduk can do against Rijeka without Livaja.

Given that Dinamo won against Slaven Belupo 4-0 two days ago, I would say that the days of uncertainty are gone. Now that the title is safe, I think that Biscan should turn to getting new players for the next season. I hope that there will be some strong names who will sign for Dinamo because the current squad has a little to do with the squad that beat Chelsea in the Round 1 of the UCL.

And about Hajduk... It's Hajduk. They managed to lose the game 2-0 giving Rijeka important three points in the battle for the third place.

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April 17, 2023, 06:53:14 PM
 #158

I think it can already be said that Biscan has changed things in the team and that the players are playing again without pressure and fear, and with confidence. The championship title is now safe.
As for the general situation in the club, I think it's obvious that Mamić has lost power in the club, and I don't think that Barišić will stay long either and that the story is over. Politics decided so and it is a settled matter.
Lokomotiva used to be a branch of Dinamo during the Mamica era, but in recent years that is no longer the case and their matches are always uncertain and open.
In the last few seasons, Dinamo lost a lot of points in matches against Lokomotiva.
Today we will see what Hajduk can do against Rijeka without Livaja.

Given that Dinamo won against Slaven Belupo 4-0 two days ago, I would say that the days of uncertainty are gone. Now that the title is safe, I think that Biscan should turn to getting new players for the next season. I hope that there will be some strong names who will sign for Dinamo because the current squad has a little to do with the squad that beat Chelsea in the Round 1 of the UCL.

And about Hajduk... It's Hajduk. They managed to lose the game 2-0 giving Rijeka important three points in the battle for the third place.

That's right, the title of Croatian champion has already been decided and now Bišćan needs to start preparing the team for the new season, determine which players will stay and which will leave, and sports director Šimić needs to start looking for new, strong players who will be able to help the club in Champions League next season. Dinamo financially depends on success in European competitions, not on the Croatian championship.
As for Hajduk, yes, what can we say? Complete incompetence at all levels of the club, from management to coaches and players. Organizationally and financially, they are far below Dinamo.

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April 18, 2023, 12:22:57 PM
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That's right, the title of Croatian champion has already been decided and now Bišćan needs to start preparing the team for the new season, determine which players will stay and which will leave, and sports director Šimić needs to start looking for new, strong players who will be able to help the club in Champions League next season. Dinamo financially depends on success in European competitions, not on the Croatian championship.
As for Hajduk, yes, what can we say? Complete incompetence at all levels of the club, from management to coaches and players. Organizationally and financially, they are far below Dinamo.

I really hope that Dinamo manages to sign some good players this summer that will help them win games in the Champions league. If Dinamo fails to win their games in the UCL, Croatian football will lose a lot of points that gives other clubs the possibility to play European games. Unfortunately Dinamo is the only team that can do anything in the European competitions. Other clubs simply doesn't have the quality to play against stronger European teams.

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April 18, 2023, 12:29:10 PM
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I really hope that Dinamo manages to sign some good players this summer that will help them win games in the Champions league. If Dinamo fails to win their games in the UCL, Croatian football will lose a lot of points that gives other clubs the possibility to play European games. Unfortunately Dinamo is the only team that can do anything in the European competitions. Other clubs simply doesn't have the quality to play against stronger European teams.

Good news is also an ultimatum given to Olmo by Leipzig.
He's entering into the last year of his contract and if he doesn't sign an extension by summer they will sell him.

He should go for 50-60 mil euros, Dinamo sold him to Leipzig for ~30 mil and they will receive 20% of all the profit Leipzig makes - which should be around 5-6 mil euros if they do sell him.

Dinamo has the money to invest - the problem is that there aren't that many players willing to go to Dinamo that are good enough to improve the squad for the CL.

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