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April 18, 2023, 12:40:28 PM
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Good news is also an ultimatum given to Olmo by Leipzig.
He's entering into the last year of his contract and if he doesn't sign an extension by summer they will sell him.

He should go for 50-60 mil euros, Dinamo sold him to Leipzig for ~30 mil and they will receive 20% of all the profit Leipzig makes - which should be around 5-6 mil euros if they do sell him.

Dinamo has the money to invest - the problem is that there aren't that many players willing to go to Dinamo that are good enough to improve the squad for the CL.

Wasn't there also rumors about Leipzig selling Gvardiol? I don't know if Dinamo also has a similar clause for Gvardiol but knowing how Dinamo tends to sell their players, it could have. I remember that there were a lot of rumors about him leaving Leipzig after the last World Cup, but I didn't see such rumors lately. I'm sure that Leipzig wouldn't sell him cheap and if Dinamo has some kind of clause, it would bring even more money than with Olmo.

Either way, I agree that Dinamo doesn't have a problem with money. Bigger problem is that Dinamo is probably not a club that a star player would sign for.

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April 18, 2023, 01:20:25 PM
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Wasn't there also rumors about Leipzig selling Gvardiol? I don't know if Dinamo also has a similar clause for Gvardiol but knowing how Dinamo tends to sell their players, it could have. I remember that there were a lot of rumors about him leaving Leipzig after the last World Cup, but I didn't see such rumors lately. I'm sure that Leipzig wouldn't sell him cheap and if Dinamo has some kind of clause, it would bring even more money than with Olmo.

Either way, I agree that Dinamo doesn't have a problem with money. Bigger problem is that Dinamo is probably not a club that a star player would sign for.

Yup, I think they have a similar deal in place for Gvardiol as well.
Could be a profitable summer - which might come in handy considering how many important players Dinamo has lost in a short period of time.

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April 19, 2023, 01:15:11 PM
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That's right, the title of Croatian champion has already been decided and now Bišćan needs to start preparing the team for the new season, determine which players will stay and which will leave, and sports director Šimić needs to start looking for new, strong players who will be able to help the club in Champions League next season. Dinamo financially depends on success in European competitions, not on the Croatian championship.
As for Hajduk, yes, what can we say? Complete incompetence at all levels of the club, from management to coaches and players. Organizationally and financially, they are far below Dinamo.

I really hope that Dinamo manages to sign some good players this summer that will help them win games in the Champions league. If Dinamo fails to win their games in the UCL, Croatian football will lose a lot of points that gives other clubs the possibility to play European games. Unfortunately Dinamo is the only team that can do anything in the European competitions. Other clubs simply doesn't have the quality to play against stronger European teams.

Yes, unfortunately, in the last few years only Dynamo from Croatian clubs has been competitive in European club competitions, while other clubs are far below Dynamo's level in Europe.
Until recently, Rijeka was quite good in European club competitions and made it to the group stage of European competitions several times, but in the last few years, Rijeka has been far from such results.
Orsic and Ademi have already left Dinamo this season, and if Livakovic and Petkovic leave, the current Dinamo team will not be competitive for Europe.
I hope that the new sports director Simic will find a way to strengthen the team for the next season.

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April 19, 2023, 03:44:45 PM
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~snip~
Orsic and Ademi have already left Dinamo this season, and if Livakovic and Petkovic leave, the current Dinamo team will not be competitive for Europe.
I hope that the new sports director Simic will find a way to strengthen the team for the next season.

The departure of Luka Ivanusec, who is mentioned in relation to Burnley, but also to another club from the Spanish Primera, was updated again. According to Transfermarket, the price of EUR 10 million should be much higher in the final agreement, so I have no doubt that Dinamo is ready to sell the entire first team if the price is right.

Regardless of who they bring to the team, it will take time for things to be arranged in the right way, which in translation would mean that the chances of playing in the Champions League next season are significantly reduced.

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April 22, 2023, 01:53:37 PM
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~snip~
Orsic and Ademi have already left Dinamo this season, and if Livakovic and Petkovic leave, the current Dinamo team will not be competitive for Europe.
I hope that the new sports director Simic will find a way to strengthen the team for the next season.

The departure of Luka Ivanusec, who is mentioned in relation to Burnley, but also to another club from the Spanish Primera, was updated again. According to Transfermarket, the price of EUR 10 million should be much higher in the final agreement, so I have no doubt that Dinamo is ready to sell the entire first team if the price is right.

Regardless of who they bring to the team, it will take time for things to be arranged in the right way, which in translation would mean that the chances of playing in the Champions League next season are significantly reduced.

I agree, some key players will leave Dinamo and a lot of new footballers will come and it will take time for the team to settle down and play at the highest level.
However, it is a good thing for Dinamo that it has a very good coefficient in UEFA according to the results so far in the European cups, so they will be the holders in the first rounds of the Champions League, and if they are eliminated, they will continue to compete first in the Europa League, and then in the League conference.
This gives them a very good chance to advance to the group stage of the European or conference league competition and achieve higher European profit, which is essential for the club's stable financial operations.
As for the rest of the league, the only interesting thing is who will play in European club competitions and who will be relegated from the league.

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April 23, 2023, 12:08:25 PM
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Dynamo is very close to becoming champion, so I see if in the next game dinamo wins and after the next game dinamo manages to win the game against hajduk who is his only opponent capable of taking the title from him then dinamo will already be champion, because it will be very difficult for hajduk to overcome the dynamo in the next remaining games. after dp dynamo becomes champion comes another big problem, this is the kind of problem that many teams have to deal with over the years, I'm talking about big goals vs profits. the dynamo will once again have to choose: take profits or win titles and take losses.

take profit:

Without a doubt, any team has as its main objective and nowadays teams sell everything, from tickets, game transmission directories, sell players, earn money with advertising, earn money with social networks... there are many sources of income that clubs have, they also earn money by winning leagues and cups and passing other stages in the case of European competitions, but to maximize profits clubs don't spend a lot of money on signing great players

win titles:

for a team to win many champions' league titles, it is necessary for the team to make big investments in terms of hiring great players (great players cost a lot of money) and great coaches who also cost a lot of money. so when the team spends a lot of money on hiring great players and coaches then the team stays a long time without making profits, unless it manages to win the big competitions like the champions league and keep its great players and coach for a few seasons and get constantly advancing in other stages in the champions league, with that the team manages to make profits and titles

With that thought of mine, I see Dinamo selling all its best players if good offers are made to them, because Dinamo is not aiming to win the Champions League or to reach far in the Champions League

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Dinamo from Croatian club had made huge impact in this league. Dinamo against the Slaven game was unique one, because they had scored 4-0 against Slaven team. Dinamo was the team top on the league, it seems their manager Igor ordered them to make the huge win against the Slaven team. Dinamo doesn’t allow the opponent to score even the one goal against them. The game against the Lokomotiva was closure win for the Dinamo, because Dinamo had only scored 2 goals and Lokomotiva scored of 1 goals against the legend Dinamo. Dinamo was on the top of the table with 30 points from their complete matches. Sibenik had scored 2 goals against the Dinamo team with the score of 2-1. They had made good impact on the top legend Dinamo. Because they win the top label players, they had win the Dinamo most expensive team in the league.
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April 23, 2023, 09:31:20 PM
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Don't know if any of you track it, but Hajduk u-19's are playing a youth CL final tomorrow against AZ Alkmaar. They won their semifinal against AC Milan.

A croatian team has never played in a youth CL final before, the game is at 5PM in case you want to watch it.
Based on what I've seen so far Alkmaar team will be the favorites, but Hajduk really does have some decent players in the team.

Good luck to our guys, eh? Would be a fantastic achievement to win a game like this.

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April 24, 2023, 07:12:11 AM
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Don't know if any of you track it, but Hajduk u-19's are playing a youth CL final tomorrow against AZ Alkmaar. They won their semifinal against AC Milan.

A croatian team has never played in a youth CL final before, the game is at 5PM in case you want to watch it.
Based on what I've seen so far Alkmaar team will be the favorites, but Hajduk really does have some decent players in the team.

Good luck to our guys, eh? Would be a fantastic achievement to win a game like this.

Yeah, the Hajduk U-19 team is playing great in the youth CL. Even if they don't win the title, them coming to the final is a great achievement. I hope that Hajduk will use some of those players to boost the quality of their seniors, but knowing how Hajduk's management work they will probably sold many of them to other clubs.

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April 24, 2023, 06:27:52 PM
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Don't know if any of you track it, but Hajduk u-19's are playing a youth CL final tomorrow against AZ Alkmaar. They won their semifinal against AC Milan.

A croatian team has never played in a youth CL final before, the game is at 5PM in case you want to watch it.
Based on what I've seen so far Alkmaar team will be the favorites, but Hajduk really does have some decent players in the team.

Good luck to our guys, eh? Would be a fantastic achievement to win a game like this.

Yeah, the Hajduk U-19 team is playing great in the youth CL. Even if they don't win the title, them coming to the final is a great achievement. I hope that Hajduk will use some of those players to boost the quality of their seniors, but knowing how Hajduk's management work they will probably sold many of them to other clubs.

Unfortunately, Hajduk did not succeed and lost in the final, but still achieved a fantastic result for Croatian football.
Can you imagine any of our senior teams achieving such a fantastic result in the Champions League?
Today, Croatian clubs are very far from such results, but this great youth gives hope, although Hajduk will probably quickly sell them to the best European clubs to cover their financial holes in the budget.
Dinamo is still dominant in the Croatian league, but Hajduk obviously works better with juniors and pioneers.
Slackovic, it seems to me that some players from this junior team actually already play in the senior team, maybe not as main players yet, but they are definitely part of the senior team.

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April 25, 2023, 06:34:02 AM
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Unfortunately, Hajduk did not succeed and lost in the final, but still achieved a fantastic result for Croatian football.
Can you imagine any of our senior teams achieving such a fantastic result in the Champions League?
Today, Croatian clubs are very far from such results, but this great youth gives hope, although Hajduk will probably quickly sell them to the best European clubs to cover their financial holes in the budget.
Dinamo is still dominant in the Croatian league, but Hajduk obviously works better with juniors and pioneers.
Slackovic, it seems to me that some players from this junior team actually already play in the senior team, maybe not as main players yet, but they are definitely part of the senior team.

Yeah, this defeat 5-0 from AZ Alkmaar does not look good, but it still is a tremendous achievement from Hajduk juniors. Funny fact is that there was 7000 Hajduk fans on the stadium. More than the average number of people that visit games of the Croatian first league. I guess they decided that it's better to celebrate successes of Hajduk junior team than catastrophic results of their seniors.

And like it's normal in Croatia, the team will be welcomed by the fans in their hometown Split this afternoon. I'm sure we will see beautiful pictures from the event.

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April 25, 2023, 08:32:26 AM
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Shame about the heavy defeat, but still a fantastic achievement overall.

AZ team defeated both Real and Barcelona, and from little of junior CL football I've seen they fully deserve the title.

I hope this Hajduk team keeps growing, let's see how many of these youngsters make it to the 1st team soon. Some of them already play there.

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April 25, 2023, 10:51:07 AM
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Shame about the heavy defeat, but still a fantastic achievement overall.
~snip~

There is no doubt that playing in the final of such a prestigious competition is a huge success, but I still think that these young players and the professional staff should not have allowed them to lose by as much as 5 goals. Regardless of the strength of the opposing team, it is still the final in which the two best clubs meet, and the result did not show that in the end.

The classic weakness of Croatian clubs showed itself again, which is that they completely lose concentration in the last 20 minutes, and I think that this is the result of bad or no psychological preparation, which our clubs still do not take seriously.

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So while we already know the team that will take the title this season, the fight to avoid the relegation is quite interesting. Šibenik and Gorica are the two teams that are in danger of finishing in the last place that leads to relegation. Šibenik was doing good in the first half of the season, but now they are exchanging with Gorica in the last place. They played against each other two weeks ago and Gorica won 4-0. It will be interesting to see how this fight to avoid relegation ends up.

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April 26, 2023, 02:41:06 PM
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Shame about the heavy defeat, but still a fantastic achievement overall.
~snip~

There is no doubt that playing in the final of such a prestigious competition is a huge success, but I still think that these young players and the professional staff should not have allowed them to lose by as much as 5 goals. Regardless of the strength of the opposing team, it is still the final in which the two best clubs meet, and the result did not show that in the end.

The classic weakness of Croatian clubs showed itself again, which is that they completely lose concentration in the last 20 minutes, and I think that this is the result of bad or no psychological preparation, which our clubs still do not take seriously.

It must be admitted that AZ was better and deservedly won the final, but the result is definitely too high.
Although AZ  had the initiative and attacked, Hajduk defended well and it seemed to me that AZ would find it very difficult to score, and then with a stupid mistake the Hajduk players gave away a penalty to the opponent and lost the match.
At the beginning of the second half, the Hajduk players tried something else, but after the second goal of the opponent, they gave up, lost their concentration and ended up losing undeservedly even with 5:0.
It turned out that Hajduk has great juniors, but I'm sure that almost none of them will play for the senior team and that the management of Hajduk, like every time before, will sell their young gems and bring in players of dubious quality.
Currently, in the Croatian league, it is interesting to follow only who will win playing in Europe next season and who will be relegated from the league, and the champion was known even before the start of the league.

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April 27, 2023, 11:38:26 AM
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/snip

Currently, in the Croatian league, it is interesting to follow only who will win playing in Europe next season and who will be relegated from the league, and the champion was known even before the start of the league.

Yeah, Rijeka has an important game today against Lokomotiva. They have one game and one point less than Osijek who is third in the league (second and third place goes to Conference League qualifications). If they manage to win (which they should), Osijek will have to give them the third place. Each team still has five games to play before the season ends so every point is important!

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April 29, 2023, 12:54:59 PM
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/snip

Currently, in the Croatian league, it is interesting to follow only who will win playing in Europe next season and who will be relegated from the league, and the champion was known even before the start of the league.

Yeah, Rijeka has an important game today against Lokomotiva. They have one game and one point less than Osijek who is third in the league (second and third place goes to Conference League qualifications). If they manage to win (which they should), Osijek will have to give them the third place. Each team still has five games to play before the season ends so every point is important!

Yes, at the moment it is very interesting to follow which of the Croatian clubs will eventually play in European competitions and which club will be relegated from the league.
For the past few seasons, it was already known in advance that Dinamo would be the first and that Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek would win the place in the European club competitions, but this season many more clubs joined the competition and everything is still uncertain.
At the moment, Hajduka, Rijeka and Osijek hold the places that lead to Europe, but Slaven, Varaždin, Istra and Lokomotiva are also very close and everything is still uncertain and open.
Gorica or Sibenik will drop out of the league.

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April 29, 2023, 05:20:21 PM
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Yes, at the moment it is very interesting to follow which of the Croatian clubs will eventually play in European competitions and which club will be relegated from the league.
For the past few seasons, it was already known in advance that Dinamo would be the first and that Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek would win the place in the European club competitions, but this season many more clubs joined the competition and everything is still uncertain.
At the moment, Hajduka, Rijeka and Osijek hold the places that lead to Europe, but Slaven, Varaždin, Istra and Lokomotiva are also very close and everything is still uncertain and open.
Gorica or Sibenik will drop out of the league.

Actually we have a funny situation. If I'm not mistaken, the cup winner gets to compete in the Europa league qualifications. If that's the case, Sibenik which is fighting not to be relegated could play those games if they manage to beat Hajduk in the final. That would mean that Dinamo plays in the UCL qualifications, Hajduk and Rijeka/Osijek plays in the Conference league and Sibenik in the Europa league.

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Yes, at the moment it is very interesting to follow which of the Croatian clubs will eventually play in European competitions and which club will be relegated from the league.
For the past few seasons, it was already known in advance that Dinamo would be the first and that Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek would win the place in the European club competitions, but this season many more clubs joined the competition and everything is still uncertain.
At the moment, Hajduka, Rijeka and Osijek hold the places that lead to Europe, but Slaven, Varaždin, Istra and Lokomotiva are also very close and everything is still uncertain and open.
Gorica or Sibenik will drop out of the league.

Actually we have a funny situation. If I'm not mistaken, the cup winner gets to compete in the Europa league qualifications. If that's the case, Sibenik which is fighting not to be relegated could play those games if they manage to beat Hajduk in the final. That would mean that Dinamo plays in the UCL qualifications, Hajduk and Rijeka/Osijek plays in the Conference league and Sibenik in the Europa league.

Unfortunately, it is not like that.
Firstly, Šibenik is the only club from the first Croatian football league that did not pay for the UEFA license and because of this they cannot participate in European competitions next season, even if they win the Croatian Cup. Obviously, the club did not believe in this scenario and took away a great chance for their players to play in Europe next season.
Second, of the Croatian clubs, only Hajduk has a chance to compete in the European league next season because it is close to the line in terms of its European rating. However, several things must come together for them and the question is whether such a scenario will actually happen. Most likely, 3 Croatian clubs will play again in the conference league.
The winner of the Croatian Cup no longer has a direct place in the qualification for the European League due to the poor rating of Croatian clubs in European competitions.

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April 30, 2023, 10:54:53 AM
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The winner of the Croatian Cup no longer has a direct place in the qualification for the European League due to the poor rating of Croatian clubs in European competitions.


Oh, that's too bad. I read it in some last year's article that the winner of the cup will play in the Europa league. Probably Croatia's coefficient changed since that article was published. I remember the headlines last year saying how there's a chance that half of the HNL could play in the European competitions but since then our coefficient dropped drastically due to clubs playing badly last season. It would be great if that was the case.

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