Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga

[Joca97]

Dinamo zagreb should be an easy win an expected to fight to get into the group for sure. They have been dominating the league for many years and good on the european stage . Osijek will struggle in the european match while Rijeka has an easy match up for them whoever win the duel between those two teams.

The problem with Dinamo is that few of their best players left this summer. It will be interesting to see how will Dinamo perform without them. The other problem is that Dinamo always has problems playing against weaker teams. They did improve on that in the last few years, but I'm always concerned when it comes to playing against those type of teams.

The new football season is about to start and it seems that almost no one will come to Dinamo except some unknown footballers like the Japanese Kaneko.
Bišćan is asking the management for several new footballers to strengthen the team, but it seems that he will not get them.
The moment of truth is coming soon as the Champions League qualifiers begin. For Dinamo, anything other than entering the group stage of any European competition would be a financial and any other disaster
Dinamo cannot survive financially from the Croatian league, so a possible failure in European competitions would mean a total sale of the team and the dismissal of the coach.

Well teams like Dinamo and most of the teams on Balkan they survive buy selling players and playing the champions league. We all know how hard is to qualify for the champions league. The problem is you have 2-3 round with 2 matches in each round and if luck dosent suit you ,you can get eliminated and go into a weaker tournament that dosent pay like champions league. Dinamo will find good players for sure just a question if they can learn to play with each other on time

[Daniel91]

Dinamo zagreb should be an easy win an expected to fight to get into the group for sure. They have been dominating the league for many years and good on the european stage . Osijek will struggle in the european match while Rijeka has an easy match up for them whoever win the duel between those two teams.

The problem with Dinamo is that few of their best players left this summer. It will be interesting to see how will Dinamo perform without them. The other problem is that Dinamo always has problems playing against weaker teams. They did improve on that in the last few years, but I'm always concerned when it comes to playing against those type of teams.

The new football season is about to start and it seems that almost no one will come to Dinamo except some unknown footballers like the Japanese Kaneko.
Bišćan is asking the management for several new footballers to strengthen the team, but it seems that he will not get them.
The moment of truth is coming soon as the Champions League qualifiers begin. For Dinamo, anything other than entering the group stage of any European competition would be a financial and any other disaster
Dinamo cannot survive financially from the Croatian league, so a possible failure in European competitions would mean a total sale of the team and the dismissal of the coach.

Well teams like Dinamo and most of the teams on Balkan they survive buy selling players and playing the champions league. We all know how hard is to qualify for the champions league. The problem is you have 2-3 round with 2 matches in each round and if luck dosent suit you ,you can get eliminated and go into a weaker tournament that dosent pay like champions league. Dinamo will find good players for sure just a question if they can learn to play with each other on time

Dinamo doesn't really have much time, because their season starts very quickly, and the team has not yet been formed for the new season.
Given that Dinamo's entire season depends on whether they will manage to enter the group stage of the Champions League or not, Dinamo must already be at the top level at the beginning of the season.
Thanks to the very good European coefficient, Dinamo will face relatively easier opponents in the qualifying rounds for the Champions League, but today there are no easy opponents in Europe and they will have to be fully prepared for the competition.
Unfortunately, unlike Dinamo, the other Croatian clubs that play in European competitions, Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek, have almost no chance of making it to the group stage of a European competition.

[cryptofrka]

They will get some players in, that's for sure. So far none of the expected departures (Livaković, Petković, Šutalo) actually left, Dinamo will probably sell them after their european qualifiers and then get more involved in the transfer market.

So far they brought 2 CB's, so it seems that Šutalo will leave for sure. I approve that transfer, they will get big money and in my opinion Šutalo is decent but not great.

[slackovic]

They will get some players in, that's for sure. So far none of the expected departures (Livaković, Petković, Šutalo) actually left, Dinamo will probably sell them after their european qualifiers and then get more involved in the transfer market.

So far they brought 2 CB's, so it seems that Šutalo will leave for sure. I approve that transfer, they will get big money and in my opinion Šutalo is decent but not great.

That is exactly what I was thinking. The transfer windows is closing at the end of this month, right? If that's true then Dinamo has enough time to bring some "big" names (big for Dinamo). Maybe the management is waiting to see how the qualifying games will go trough. I guess they see no point in signing some expensive player(s) if they fail to qualify for the group stage of some European competition.

[cryptofrka]

That is exactly what I was thinking. The transfer windows is closing at the end of this month, right? If that's true then Dinamo has enough time to bring some "big" names (big for Dinamo). Maybe the management is waiting to see how the qualifying games will go trough. I guess they see no point in signing some expensive player(s) if they fail to qualify for the group stage of some European competition.

Nope, by the end of next month - so still plenty of time to assemble a team for next season.
I'm sure that Dinamo already has a list of players which they'd approach in case of selling some of the current ones.

[slackovic]

That is exactly what I was thinking. The transfer windows is closing at the end of this month, right? If that's true then Dinamo has enough time to bring some "big" names (big for Dinamo). Maybe the management is waiting to see how the qualifying games will go trough. I guess they see no point in signing some expensive player(s) if they fail to qualify for the group stage of some European competition.

Nope, by the end of next month - so still plenty of time to assemble a team for next season.
I'm sure that Dinamo already has a list of players which they'd approach in case of selling some of the current ones.

Oh, by the end of August? I don't know why I thought the deadline is by the end of July. Either way there is still a lot of time for Dinamo to sign new players. Let's just hope they will again make sign some good players that will keep them competitive for the European games. For the Croatian league new signings are not that relevant.

[Daniel91]

That is exactly what I was thinking. The transfer windows is closing at the end of this month, right? If that's true then Dinamo has enough time to bring some "big" names (big for Dinamo). Maybe the management is waiting to see how the qualifying games will go trough. I guess they see no point in signing some expensive player(s) if they fail to qualify for the group stage of some European competition.

Nope, by the end of next month - so still plenty of time to assemble a team for next season.
I'm sure that Dinamo already has a list of players which they'd approach in case of selling some of the current ones.

Oh, by the end of August? I don't know why I thought the deadline is by the end of July. Either way there is still a lot of time for Dinamo to sign new players. Let's just hope they will again make sign some good players that will keep them competitive for the European games. For the Croatian league new signings are not that relevant.

For Dinamo, the best news this summer would be if Petković, Livaković and Ivanušec stay until the end of August and help the club qualify for the group stage of the Champions It will be very difficult for Dinamo to find real replacements for such quality footballers on the domestic market, and even abroad.
I would not really agree with the opinion that Dinamo will not have real competition in the Croatian football league this season.
If the announcements about the arrival of Perišić to Hajduk come true, then after a long time we could see more uncertain competitions than usual in the Croatian league.

[cryptofrka]

Perišić to Hajduk seems so crazy to me - there's 0 reason for him to do that at this point in his career.

Maybe he doesn't care that much about money anymore and just wants to come home.

He was born in Split but never played a game for Hajduk - it would really be a great story.

[Daniel91]

Perišić to Hajduk seems so crazy to me - there's 0 reason for him to do that at this point in his career.

Maybe he doesn't care that much about money anymore and just wants to come home.

He was born in Split but never played a game for Hajduk - it would really be a great story.

I agree, from the rational side there is no reason for Perišić to come to Hajduk this season, maybe in a few years when he ends his great career.
Perišić can certainly play a few more seasons at the top level and earn serious money, either in some European league or in Saudi Arabia.
However, it is obvious that he, like Livaja a few seasons ago, is not driven by rational reasons but by emotions, i.e. the desire to make a big result with Hajduk and end Dinamo's dominance in the Croatian league.
If they succeed, Livaja and Perišić would become heroes of Dalmatia and Split.
Dinamo will most likely be without their main players Livaković, Petković and Ivanušec this season, and Hajduk clearly see a chance for themselves in this situation and are trying to take advantage of the opportunity and put together a strong and competitive team.

[slackovic]

I agree, from the rational side there is no reason for Perišić to come to Hajduk this season, maybe in a few years when he ends his great career.
Perišić can certainly play a few more seasons at the top level and earn serious money, either in some European league or in Saudi Arabia.
However, it is obvious that he, like Livaja a few seasons ago, is not driven by rational reasons but by emotions, i.e. the desire to make a big result with Hajduk and end Dinamo's dominance in the Croatian league.
If they succeed, Livaja and Perišić would become heroes of Dalmatia and Split.
Dinamo will most likely be without their main players Livaković, Petković and Ivanušec this season, and Hajduk clearly see a chance for themselves in this situation and are trying to take advantage of the opportunity and put together a strong and competitive team.

I don't know how Livaja played before, but with his laziness while playing for the national team I would never compare him with Perišić. I didn't follow the news lately so I'm not sure where is it coming from, but I really can't imagine Perišić in Hajduk. He is 34 years old and he can still play at the highest level for a few more years.

[FatFork]

Perišić is still under contract with Tottenham for the entirety of the upcoming season. Given his professionalism, it seems unlikely that he will terminate the contract prematurely. It is most probable that his return to Hajduk (as he had previously promised) will only occur in 2024, when his contract expires and he becomes a free agent again.

[slackovic]

Perišić is still under contract with Tottenham for the entirety of the upcoming season. Given his professionalism, it seems unlikely that he will terminate the contract prematurely. It is most probable that his return to Hajduk (as he had previously promised) will only occur in 2024, when his contract expires and he becomes a free agent again.

Yeah, that sounds like a possible scenario. However, with 35 years of age next year, maybe some other club will want to sign him on a one year contract. But I have to admit, it would be nice to see him play for Hajduk. I just hope he won't be like Livaja. I can't stand that guy...

[Daniel91]

Perišić is still under contract with Tottenham for the entirety of the upcoming season. Given his professionalism, it seems unlikely that he will terminate the contract prematurely. It is most probable that his return to Hajduk (as he had previously promised) will only occur in 2024, when his contract expires and he becomes a free agent again.

Yeah, that sounds like a possible scenario. However, with 35 years of age next year, maybe some other club will want to sign him on a one year contract. But I have to admit, it would be nice to see him play for Hajduk. I just hope he won't be like Livaja. I can't stand that guy...

Yes, Livaja is such a character, a conflicted player and a man who likes to provoke other fans and even insult.
The stories surrounding Perisic have quieted down at the moment and it seems that it is not realistic that he will play for Hajduk this year.
By the way, the new season in the Croatian league begins with today's Super Cup match. The first match between the two biggest rivals, Dinamo and Hajduk, will answer questions about their current strength and quality and what we can expect in the new season.
Soon we will see all 4 Croatian clubs in the qualifying matches for European competitions, and it will be interesting to see if anyone else can join Dinamo and enter the group stage of European competitions.

[slackovic]

So, the new season has started. This thread is not that big so I decided to remove the year from it's title. It doesn't make sense to create new thread for each season for such small league like Croatian League.

The new season started on Friday and right in the first game we have a pretty big surprise - Hajduk managed to beat Dinamo in Zagreb! I don't know when that happened the last time, but I'd say it wasn't in the near past. Dinamo had a lead 1-0 and a penalty that Petković managed to shoot so lousy that Lučić didn't have problems defending. Then Livaja scored an equalizer. And when everyone thought that it will finish with a draw, Hajduk managed to score another goal in 93rd minute to shock Dinamo at the start od the season.

In other news, Osijek played their first game at the new stadium. It's a great looking stadium with around 13.000 seats. Osijek players spiced up the opening of their new stadium with a great 6-1 victory against Slaven.

[cryptofrka]

Maybe the bookies will offer good odds on Dinamo winning the title after the derby

The result will lift Hajduk after their Supercup loss - but irrespective of this result I can't see any other outcome than another title for Dinamo.
They're a far better team with more options in all areas, and will remain so even if they sell a few key players.

[slackovic]

Maybe the bookies will offer good odds on Dinamo winning the title after the derby

The result will lift Hajduk after their Supercup loss - but irrespective of this result I can't see any other outcome than another title for Dinamo.
They're a far better team with more options in all areas, and will remain so even if they sell a few key players.

Yeah, right... Maybe in some other big league that could happen, but not in the Croatian League. You know how small country Croatia is and everyone (except for some die-hard Dalmatian people) knows that Dinamo will win the title this season. One lost game means nothing. I really don't see how any other club could win the title. Maybe is some of them change their management, then they could stand a chance.

[Rikafip]

Prior to the start of new season I don't think that anyone expected this, even the most die hard hajduk fans: Hajduk Split at the top of the table with 8 points ahead of Dinamo Zagreb (they have one game less though) with latter only getting 4 points from 3 games.

Given the circumstances in Dinamo (Sutalo just left, Livakovic just a matter of day and possibly Ivanusec and Petkovic, Biscan being incompetent) I think that its now or never for Hajduk to finally win the championship after 18-19 years of waiting.

[slackovic]

Prior to the start of new season I don't think that anyone expected this, even the most die hard hajduk fans: Hajduk Split at the top of the table with 8 points ahead of Dinamo Zagreb (they have one game less though) with latter only getting 4 points from 3 games.

Given the circumstances in Dinamo (Sutalo just left, Livakovic just a matter of day and possibly Ivanusec and Petkovic, Biscan being incompetent) I think that its now or never for Hajduk to finally win the championship after 18-19 years of waiting.

/snip

Oh man, I forgot all about this thread. Yes, I agree that this is the now or never year for Hajduk to become the champion. But after seeing them play against PAOK, I don't think they have what it takes to win. Rijeka also have solid chance to win the title again, not just Hajduk. Dinamo changed a lot in the last year - new coach, new management... We will see how long the new management will have patience with Biscan. If they lose against Sparta Prague, I think they will look for another coach.

[Rikafip]

We will see how long the new management will have patience with Biscan. If they lose against Sparta Prague, I think they will look for another coach.

Biscan won't have a chance to prove himself against Sparta Prague as he has been sacked today and I would say good riddance, the only problem is that person who is rumoured to replace him (Goran Tomic) is not much better either.

The one I would like to replace him is Sergej Jakirovic who is doing a very good job in Rijeka and before that in Zrinjski but for some reason he is not mentioned as a choice at the moment.

[Lucius]

~snip~
We will see how long the new management will have patience with Biscan. If they lose against Sparta Prague, I think they will look for another coach.

Biscan is no longer a coach, and the names of possible candidates who will lead the club in the next match have already been announced. Like his predecessor Cacic, Biscan obviously did not understand what the substitutes were for, especially in moments when the rhythm of the game should be slowed down and the pressure created by the opponent should be released.

However, regardless of who will be the new coach, the departure of many key players will significantly affect Dinamo's game, which means that the championship could be much more interesting than otherwise.

Biscan won't have a chance to prove himself against Sparta Prague as he has been sacked today and I would say good riddance, the only problem is that person who is rumoured to replace him (Goran Tomic) is not much better either.

Unfortunately, the practice continues, after two bad coaches comes a third and so on indefinitely. When the famous Kjuno Jurcic returns, then we will know that Dinamo has reached rock bottom.