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Author Topic: Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do?  (Read 4228 times)
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November 07, 2022, 08:09:36 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

It would be more interesting to see what you would do if your friend does that move and YOUR 10,000 USD win 350,000 USD thanks to him. In fact, he would have saved you from losing 10,000 USD. What would you do?


@NeuroticFish I did indeed have such a situation, but it was only for 50 bucks with my brother in Las Vegas on a color. I paid him 100, but those 100 were worth his mental breakdown for that moment and we were making fun and were drunk. I assume the Croupier didn't care because it was just some minor amount.

Edit: I suppose if it ended up in a win against the casino's bank the groupier might have invalidated that round for us (and especially for the amount OP mentioned).

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November 07, 2022, 08:28:23 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.
Good knee-slapper scene, would be particularly nasty if it happens in real life. I know that friend of his did the switch with good intentions but I am always going to be in agency of whatever bet I place my money on. The situation could've gotten worse in real life where the friend's actions could've lead to a loss. This is why you never, ever influence or coax a friend into doing "what is right" in the middle of a sticky situation like this. It will almost only lead to you calling it quits or something even worse. 

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November 07, 2022, 08:30:40 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.
we all should understand that everything happens for a reason, nothing happens by chance..
A thing like this have a very very slim understand of happening but if it did happen to me, at first, I did be furious, angry at my friend and full of regret, but I will try to look at the situation from the other angle, just as it was possible to win $350k with a bet of $10k, it is also possible that i could have lost the $10k too but this friend helped to save it for me.

I wouldn't kill him, or stop being friends with him, I believe he was only trying to look out for me, $10k is a lot of money to loose and sometimes, we don't get to know what we are about to loose until that thing is gone, so personally for me, I would just get over it and move on, there will always be another opportunity.  

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November 07, 2022, 10:20:03 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

It's a seriously dumb hypothetical because the simple odds describe that you have less than at 3% chance of winning such a bet. Unless you are seriously rich already, in which case you are just in the game for frivolous fun and don't care what happens, then you are unlikely to be wasting such sums without good reason. Nobody can predict what will happen next, it's like trying to pick the color of the next car to come around the corner. If you are so intent on throwing away your money on such a bet, then you should have the courage to pick it yourself and not "blame" it on somebody else when it inevitably does not come through. Only someone who didn't understand basic odds would think in such a silly way.

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November 07, 2022, 10:32:28 PM
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I must be fuming , but what could i do? It is what it is ... you cannot take the time back and just moving on without have too much debate as it's mean nothing but wasting time , crazy just to think that way .. you are expecting to bagged hundreds thousands dollar but changed to a few bucks.

Im pretty sure anybody must be super fuming on that.

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November 07, 2022, 10:43:52 PM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

I will really hate him and go into a rage, he did not respect me for doing that,  that is once in a lifetime and your friend just blew it, this is why you don't tag your friends when you're betting in a casino, it's a life-changing win and you and your friend who will not be your friend anymore will haunt that memory for the rest of your life and its hard to make up with your friend after what happened, but maybe time can erase the memory.

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I will really hate him and go into a rage, he did not respect me for doing that,  that is once in a lifetime and your friend just blew it, this is why you don't tag your friends when you're betting in a casino, it's a life-changing win and you and your friend who will not be your friend anymore will haunt that memory for the rest of your life and its hard to make up with your friend after what happened, but maybe time can erase the memory.

It depends. What if the other way around happened? Anyways, it's really hard to assume what will be the exact thing that might happen because I don't see it happening in real life. Our accompanied friend or someone, while we are in a casino, is not that dumb to just moves chips while the spin is currently in motion where in fact, it's not even allowed to do some actions while in that phase. That was embarrassing.

Because of that movie, OP gives us a problem to think about.  Cheesy

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I'd probably kick myself for being persuaded by other people on my betting decision. It should have been clear to me that it's my money and it's whatever I want to do with it, be it on a losing or a winning position. Of course some blames will be directed to this friend but I don't think it will natter now that the potential win is lost. I'd rather just keep to myself that my bets should not be affected or influenced by anyone no matter how close we are.

Besides, it's still a win anyway

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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Let's assume for argument sake.

In any case though, this bet could be voided by the dealer because it was touch by someone other than the bettor himself. He could have called it before calling "no bets". Ok, if the dealer allows it, obviously, he has to pay only $35k. Now the problems arises between these friends, I haven't seen the movie, but it real life, this could be trouble though and maybe some physical altercations between them. For me of course, going to be very difficult as I supposed to win $350k and probably give everyone a big tip, but I have to think about it and maybe I will forgive my friend after sometime. It's just money anyways, for sure if you can bet $10k, probably you can make more money in the future, just saying. But the friendship can't be replace.

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In this movie, the intention of the friend is good and just want to save his friend from making a mistake or losing a lot of money. Which is the right thing to do for a friend if you know your friend is doing bad decisions. But the thing is they should have won a lot but due to his action they missed it.

Anyway, if that was me, I should just forgive my friend for messing my bet. It is just money; you can earn or win it some other time. But a friend, especially a true friend, is a lifetime companion. I can never exchange that to money. I will feel bad at first but that would pass later on.

I will really hate him and go into a rage, he did not respect me for doing that,  that is once in a lifetime and your friend just blew it, this is why you don't tag your friends when you're betting in a casino, it's a life-changing win and you and your friend who will not be your friend anymore will haunt that memory for the rest of your life and its hard to make up with your friend after what happened, but maybe time can erase the memory.

It depends. What if the other way around happened? Anyways, it's really hard to assume what will be the exact thing that might happen because I don't see it happening in real life. Our accompanied friend or someone, while we are in a casino, is not that dumb to just moves chips while the spin is currently in motion where in fact, it's not even allowed to do some actions while in that phase. That was embarrassing.

Because of that movie, OP gives us a problem to think about.  Cheesy

Right. The game is pure luck, and the opposite of the result could easily happen. The friend is concern about you and you should give value to that.
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Just got done watching that video. Kind of surprised I haven't seen this movie yet.  I like a few of those actors in this scene, so I will have to check it out! That said, I'm not sure there's really anything I would do other than be pissed off at my friend for quite a long time.  If I want to be stupid with my money, then it's really up to me to be stupid with it, so I'm the one who deserves the consquences whether it turns out well or not.

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November 07, 2022, 11:58:27 PM
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Nothing can be done, it is his fate. In simple, he's not that lucky to win the big money. If not somehow he could've won that. When it comes to gambling, trading, investment, it is our money and we need to make the decision. Letting friend to make the decision shows how close they were. It is upto them and in such situation I'll have small unhappy feeling which will pass over time.

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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

Actions are restricted once the spin is now in the action.

And if some sort of movements were done while spinning and chips got moved for whatever reason, the supposed first number that is chosen is the original number and that won't be changed.

The movie shared is a comedy that's why stories like that occur but it can't happen in real life.

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I thought it was a real life experience because of the title.

Anyways, if ever it would happen to me in real life, I would definitely be freakin mad on my friend for crossing the line. Respect matters a lot to me. Even if you have good intention in doing something, you should always ask consent before actually doing it especially if it concerns other people's lives. You should stop being so nosy and too imposing because it is such a rude attitude. If you want your friend to be on the right path and make sensible decisions, then you could talk to them and not control them.

The act of manipulation is such a bad thing. If they want it, then let them get it for themselves. Ask them if they want to hear your opinion about their decision. If they said they do, give them your insights. Otherwise, shut your mouth if you'll just spit an unsolicited opinion. If you already educated them and nothing still happens, then it's now up to them. Let them handle the consequences of their actions. After all, you shouldn't ,meddle in someone else's life issues. I just don't think it's appropriate to insist to be involved.
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I think at least everyone will agree they will become very rage to their friend since their friend ruined it.

Some people might will kill him since they think money is more important than friend, it's nothing new someone might back stabbed you when it's about money.

This is why I never want to gamble with a friend that I think will make me in trouble, a selfish person will let his emotion to do what he want and he wouldn't care with other people opinion/choice.

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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.
Why did you allow him to move it then? But if it is really his fault(perhaps you are against his/her decision but he/dhe insisted still) then he/she owe you $10k not $350 because that is the amount you've even if it could have possibly won. You friend will only owe you $350k if that is the amount of the bet he intervened. That's that simple, you cannot put value into an amount especially with money. If I would be on your shoe I won't be mad if he will give back my money as is. But ofcourse I'd regret what happened and might feel quite frustrated. I also had a saying that "if ut is for you, then that'd for you". What if the other eay around happened right? would you still be mad?

Another scenario: His/her bet won. How much would you ask him? Will it be $10k only? The answer would also be the point of OP's question.

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November 08, 2022, 06:11:23 AM
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lol, it's interesting that we also need someone to remind us when playing gambling, in fact we won't always win at gambling games I won't blame my friends for that

basically maybe I can win a lot of money from my bet but if on the contrary what if I lose maybe I will also blame myself especially the people around me, so maybe a friend has saved me from the mess even though I didn't win much money, I will assume it's not my lucky day

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One of my best friends showed his wife how he plays "Crash" on Stake.com... and she thought it was "virtual" monopoly money, so she had a try.... she bet $1000 and when it reached 6x ....she showed her husband, he freaked out... grabbed the phone and pressed "cashout" on 17x .....giving him a win of more than $16 000!

I think he would have been pissed off, if it was the other way around... if she lost a few $1000 bets in a row. I am glad for them, because they needed that financial boost.  Grin Grin Grin

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November 08, 2022, 08:22:06 AM
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I will also definitely punch him in the face until he bleeds because he's been blocking me from winning so much money. But his intentions were good not to let me use so much money to try my luck. Well, it's nice to see so many comrades trying to look after me and maybe I shouldn't be mad at him. I've also got to win some money to celebrate with my friends, even though it's a glass of beer Grin

Maybe it also happens in real life and some people have experienced it. They are very lucky to have friends who are very caring and try to constantly remind them not to place bets and with too much money.
You cant really say or make out conclusions on what you should gonna do on the time of that kind of intervention which it can ha potentially make you 350k dollars which is something that amount you cant

able to earn on your lifetime which it cant really be that avoided for you not to punch him on the face for such intervention which its none of his business on how you would make a bet.

Yes, its good to know and gives a good feeling that someone do really cares for you on having that safer bet.But the main question is, on that how you
you would consider a safe bet?
We never know if we have a chance to make 350k dollars and that's what we try but apparently, our friends always warn us not to bet more than we can. They are good friends who always remind us not to gamble with a lot of money. And even if we didn't win a lot of money, at least we did and I think that's enough for us to be able to hold back the anger to punch him in the face because it could later result in a fight between us and the end, we will lose good friends.

I think our friends have given us a safe bet and I think that's what we can do instead of risking by betting a lot of money that we don't know what the outcome will be. We can win or we can lose, that's all. That depends on what you choose.

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November 08, 2022, 08:34:58 AM
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He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

I don't think this has high chances of happening in real life,sometime when I have won big in the slot machines which I play consistently the maximum I do is to hit with a big bet like 10 to 20 dollar per spin the most and only a couple of times because I know with this kind of bet you get your balance to 0 in just a couple of minutes at best.

For roulette though I have seen that amount to go all in only in movies,I don't know what would I do if a friend tried to get all in,I would most probably stop him right away.I have been in offline casinos a couple of times and I have seen roulette tables but not people going all in with such a big amount.

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